10-7-22 After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 3

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If you haven't decorated for Halloween menu or behind the eight ball in my hood but I didn't agree probably good that will do that but I did start to put my many pumpkins and gourds all over my house. So cute. I've got extensive orange everywhere because that's what makes me happy this time of the who and yes it deftly pumpkins. I deftly will be touching the pumpkin and also I'm about to plant grass seed for the first time in my life. You guys have never done that before I dove at the right time out of work. I'm flying blind.

But I'm really excited because on Friday we got a Dave 73°, I had to mow the lawn error rates. I know about aerating and then to plant Christ sport's grass seed for the first time you do not he wanted to see what hand motion.

I just did right there.

I'm spreading grass seed so it's a freaky Friday to Friday free-for-all baby after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio were live from the rocket mortgage Studios you need to know what it takes for a home to fit your budget and your family. Rockets came so you can buy me on Twitter a little radio you know it, but for those of you who are brand-new were happy to to connect with you on either Twitter or Facebook.

Right now we've got our first pull up.

We thought we give baseball head start because let's be honest, even the baseball postseason really can't compete on a grand scale with football not bear the NFL is a bully at it is it's really a jealous lover to do if you start to spend too much time paying attention to any other sport, the NFL fights back and demand your attention. So, expect week five to be the craziest we get receipts up that habit.

Just trust me, the quadruple header for heaven sakes we've given the wildcard weekend pole head start so that's on Twitter and on Facebook and pretty soon the after-hours game of the week coming from the NFL, but for now we want to carve out some space for college football.

Because yes, in October 8 go time you got a ton of conference match jobs were soon to see the initial college football playoff rankings.

And speaking of the college football playoff. What are we getting more teams that the question I keep hearing from so many people to bed. It's been too long but were really excited to welcome Josh paid back to the show he's driving he's on the move from college football site to college football stadium so they can relate to Josh as I can find them on twitter I just I get the question all the time. It seems like it's still the big shadow over the sport of college football, even as games are going on so the update. What is the latest with the college football playoff expansion will everybody that they're on the right track with it and a lot of people who you know, came to a head and then walked away from each other in January are back in the same room now though the thought is to find all has been gotten some of the final final goal could be got but will be got and whatnot they will be arguing over the coming weeks and maybe that month or two and you I don't I don't necessarily cover that day-to-day because I really like the walk-in of the feet of a lot of our writers do and so I called them all the time about it.

But I do want to be updated on it and the feel is yet coming, but think you got people in the room right now with each other who know full well conference realignment is not on.

You got people in the room who know full well there are member of your conference that are talking to members of the my conference so it is really convoluted, you got everybody with oral special interest and you try to get on the same page. But here's what here's what really sort of calibrate the product that they need. When you start talking about billions would be that, calibrate the process to get everyone on board so it will happen and I think it will happen. I think you'll have an answer on this. By the time we played this year's national trip he took it to leave when it comes to the realignment and conference is looking so completely different than say even five years ago. What impact does that have on the playoffs but also college football itself. I think a lot of maybe what you grew up on your if you're over 30, much less if you're over 50 or 60 what you grew up on the territoriality of originality that was baked into the fabric of the traditional college football.

I think you'll still have that but I think parts of it will be bygone in nature. You know the next the next generation of college football documentaries. If you think about it or being lived out right now and we live them out over the past 10 years ago really the past 10 years. As it turns out, were some of the final years of college football, quarter quote as you knew it, and you don't even have to just look at realignment for that you could talk about what the transfer portals under escort. You can talk about with an eye out for so I'm not that all the things about these but they are definitely different things and would conference realignment. I think also what is done and I don't necessarily know that I love the suspect is it is nationalized the sport much like you would see in the NFL in the NFL. It is nothing, if you were to tell me the Chargers are playing the jet under, but it is a huge deal if you tell me UCLA's playing workers Sunday or Saturday because they are on opposite coasts public health. Football normally works or if it does there's very much a novelty aspect of it would be an out of conference game will that match up. I just gave you, Rutgers, UCLA will be a conference match up in a few years, and so the territoriality that's out of there. You don't and here's the other thing when I say southern football.

When I say big comfortable when I think back to a football right now that means something to you, you get an idea in your mind what the style of football in that region that I don't know what that means five years from now because Bill between coast-to-coast in several of those conferences so it just kind of football and then you throw in the and IL and how that impacted college sports, not just football that was primarily football and men's basketball. And you're right, it feels like the wild wild West were anything goes right now. Let's just say you're in the room as a powerbroker where they're trying to decide what the play option look like Josh, what type of a bracket, how many teens would you advocate for all you do will be in that room.

I told you I would be comparable. They don't look they won't even let me come on network you talk about this over the I here's what I love and very very out of left field. I know I'm in the minority or maybe I don't even really care about. Not much in college football. I love bowl season but I don't even I do not center my thought process around who the national trip you can end up being. I watch the game. I go to the game every year I cover it I love it.

I get but our support is so disproportionate to other professional sports in pro football and baseball basketball. Everything is centered around the post season with good reason, because the entire sport is built for that colleges existed long before college football existed then. Some of these places decided that they wanted those extracurriculars attached as an appendage to the school and some of them existed in 1913. Some of popped up in 1960s on some copies of have money. Some don't have academic nutritional limitations. Some don't. There is no there is no perfect balance in college football yet it kinda get a hodgepodge that they get kinda crammed in the postseason model where everyone is seemingly supposed to be judged on the same scale and I know that's how it works out what I'm saying is I love Saturdays all that's what I look I may not live forgoes 12 Saturday to give me. I love it. I do not need to watch Tennessee at LSU this Saturday. I don't need to go to A&M Alabama this Saturday.

I don't need what you taught UCLA this Saturday and have someone every 15 minutes, wondering in my ear can impact oil. It is impacting my Saturday that's what I care about and so my answer to you in a very long-winded way. I very much miss the day where it was just kind of that BCS model and a lot of people didn't like that call didn't like the concept of a computer deciding things well, let me say something in that era the phrase bowl opt out never existed. The phrase meaningless regular-season game or meaningless bowl game never existed.

That's only been a recent kind of college football era phenomenon. So the answer to a lot of folks when I say this, the answer to them is yeah will so now the cat out of the bag you got expanded so that you can have more meaning on more games and I get that logic, here's my counter. How do you know when you increase the quantity of playoff spot. The value of making the playoffs again remains. That's right, I don't think I did write to me and operates in every industry in every corner of our world except college football was to be immune to it. So I remain skeptical or were so to spend a few minutes with Josh Pate.

He's got the late can't go with Josh paint where we try to reach out to Josh, it seems like his schedule is GM falls.

This is a treat for us here in after hours on CBS sports radio Josh in the first at say five weeks or so. What we learned about college football, it seems like it's the same teams at the top. You mentioned a few of the matchups that we got it we dive in a conference play. Now what's different though about.

They shared that we didn't have last year.

What we did have last year. I kind of started calling it a renaissance even go going in 2021 you were being told stable teams make the playoffs every year and there's there's no competitive balance Bob Loblaw and it was it was the craziest year last year since 2007, 2007 is the universe nothing will ever taught that. But 2021, very, very wild and I I think that people kind of thought that was a one-off one of them. I just did not believe that we were to get that level of crazy this year. Amy 10 of the top 25 teams, the country lost just last week yeah and it's been happening all year and I know right now it feels like Bama and Ohio State in Georgia and the rest of the pack and I do agree with that for the time being, but Ohio State showed vulnerability of Notre Dame in week one. Bama had bright young go down last week and they still rolled look. They had to survive.

Check the Georgia have looked as Mema would say average as grits two weeks in a row and so I think that when you get out of that top three years were really fun. We do our own power ratings, but if you were to have a a Vegas oddsmaker someone who set the numbers on the show right now, they would tell you the same thing. Number four through number 30 in college football right now. How are you one of you kind of put them in their there is like a 10 point gap between the famous class. It is so crazy how balanced the second tier of color. Football is right now so that just means crazy Saturday after Craig, who are a couple of teams, at least right now this point as we launch into October, that you consider to be dark courses or teams that maybe will use this next month to put themselves in that conversation or maybe separate themselves in that package is referenced. I think it's a cute weekend for Utah. I think people were honest with himself. Anyone driving around looking right now.

If you're honest with yourself. You watched Utah play Florida in week one and they lost and you probably had watched him again and that's okay because you like to live but I don't so I've been walking they are one of three team in America that are top 12 in total often folded okay and you don't think that about them because you kinda cast them off their pack 12 P they lost in week one, you probably said yourself. There goes Utah will know that was never the case. The plane really good football now know why I say this is a big weekend for them to go on the road. UCLA also playing the best football they played undertook Kelly if they can get that one that that that that date next week in Salt Lake City with USC, the trout and Utah. Unlike the other teams up there there already kind of been wounded animal back against the wall mode because you can't afford to lose again. So I look at them and offer you the most underrated team in the country right now the Mississippi state people are in the pay of any mention because they're in the wrong division of not going to talk Alabama. So there.

They're not going to Atlanta and therefore the probably not going to play out a Mississippi state is very very underrated right now. So those are two things I have mild. I always enjoy the Red River rivalry. Texas and Oklahoma. I know they're not ring to this year. First time in quite a long time but I just remember that atmosphere at the Texas State fair being there for some of their glory days. It's so right because they're getting ready to jump ship. But that rivalry to me a special like a love that getting into the month of of October.

We have more and more these games that truly do have a history and bring a incredible element to it.

I hope that doesn't go away and not just referring to Texas Oklahoma but that's part of my challenge with conference realignment is to not get upset when we lose some of the great rivalries in the in the sport.

Yeah, you know, I went to that game last group 1st time I'd ever been there covering it were the and I some of my buddies from back home. I grew up in rural Georgia. So we heard about the Red River game. Growing up, but it was always iron bowl so that and so there's no where they were in high school and middle school.

No one moved to my hotel so I'm the only one to get out of the world of experience there for everyone. So they asked me what that game like and they got insulted when I told him. Oh, it was every bit of what the Hon. Yvonne I love you kneecap and at half time you been there for you know you walk up that tunnel. I'm in a be at halftime of the game I walked out of the stadium went to the fair and got a corn dog got right back so that was great, absolutely never been to a game like it and I just remember the noise and also the way that the stadium is completely divided where you got half in burnt orange and half in the Crimson and cream are so many things about it that were tremendous. Josh paid is with us after hours on CBS sports radio congratulations on signing a new deal with CBSSports and 24 seven. Your show is exploding in such amazing ways. It's so much fun to follow this meteoric rise Josh with your show what mean to you to have not just the job security, but the ability to continue doing what you love the way that you want to. Well, it means everything and I I sort of came up in viewing people who were responsible enough in high school and college to get in that either multimedia or journalism or broadcast tract go for four years and get pumped out on that assembly line right to a job waiting for him and start working their way up the wrong letter. I didn't do that I was not the greatest student in the world. I spent a large portion of my early and mid-20s, having no clue what I want to do and where I was going and I remember pretty vividly. Someone told me one day I said this on the show the other night when we made the announcement. They said to me you need to learn that a job doesn't have to be something you hate. There are careers at the intersection of your talent and your passion i.e. sand boy that clicked with me, and I admit it didn't happen overnight but I got myself in gear and the fact that in this country. You can get paid to talk about college football all year is mind-boggling.

But yet we can do it and so we have a ton of fun with it and you II Amy I don't but the seven years ago. I just didn't think that the overall college football media industry whatever you want to call it was putting out content I like and I didn't think I was alone and so I said well let's do something about it so it's difficult if nothing else is no prose, no politics is not enough to just college football and we have fun with tickets for your product at a great staff bull support of management and its it's been a blessing and I think we've only just begun to quote the carpenters while in considering everything that's happening in college football and the fact that it is changing at light speed is. I said this is a perfect time to be able to settle in for the long haul so you can find Josh on Twitter at late kick Josh, but the show is called the late kick with Josh paid it live on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, 8 o'clock Eastern time.

You had to his twitter there's links there. Again, congratulations on being able to get this deal in place but also to have the creative control that's amazing.

I'm so happy for you.

I really appreciate are always tribute on the last time we talked. I was driving home from the national championship game.

So I think will do this again before for seven months from now we well we definitely well and I will hold you to that now that Josh is super busy.

We got to get his people to connect with our people and our people is Jay Jay's quality people so thank you Josh, good to have you again and yeah right now I feel it even more than the games. Of course, in the places where you're talking college campuses and are talking about the lifeblood parts of the country.

The games are the crux that there are what matter the most. But honestly, I think the overarching landscape in college football is so in flux right now with everything that we talked about all right you can find us on Twitter after hours. CBS we post a link to our podcast every weekday morning on our twitter page, as well as our Facebook page named after the show. By the way I love how much of a reaction arise. We got out of you. I responding to our conversation with former Pro goalkeeper Jesse Bradley, who played in the US.

He also played in other auditor cotton cotton into other countries and just his insight into offers all Mariners fever but also building a winning culture and building chemistry and then this was even why we brought him on the show but he dropped these tidbits that now I don't have to back again just to speak about his path, but he nearly died taking malaria medication when he was playing in Africa. He had to quit his career he went through bouts of depression and anxiety before he found a new direction, a new purpose and a new passion and he's very inspiring. Very encouraging. So you didn't see that conversation with Jesse yet it's on our YouTube channel and leading IB plans were getting ready to record our next episode of stairway to seven so you missed the first two duties on our YouTube channel. There's video versions of asking me anything, including one in which were both dressed in red white and blue, you haven't found after aim after hours with Amy Lawrence on YouTube. We got all kinds of fun stuff there and that includes posted just yesterday are conversation that will inspire encouraging the former Pro goalkeeper Jesse Bradley all right coming up we've got our cut diving into week number five, as well as more on wildcard weekend, so it's all happening in October. Like I said it's after hours with Amy look at your local radio stations range of your favorite teams from your hometown. On demand, you can completely customize your listening.

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You won't have to hours we like is like this so I very call following our show so you don't use these he's turned up the radio crank it.

I would not recommend that with me now and then I tend to get loud. I'm just I'm excited about what it is that I'm saying this happens of my family and friends.

Sometimes I raise my voice because I'm passionate and I'm into the conversation and I'll get the response. Why are you yelling at me. Such abundant scale and I'm getting all excited away my hand that I got you yelling so don't turn on the radio when you're listening to. After my gosh, but definitely turn it up if you're following some football this weekend. We just posted this car. I told you is free-for-all working crazy were printed on the wrong time to vote for the after-hours game of the week. And yes, actually there. I was yelling. Now our debate came down to the fourth game.

We essentially agreed on the first three.

The raters at the Chiefs which is Monday night football. The bangles at the ravens which is Sunday night football. We agreed on the cowboys and rams because right now Dallas is three and one November Jerry Jones said even I even he wouldn't have believed that they would be three and one at this point, after losing Jack, but right there with the Giants behind the Eagles in what is really sneaky, quickly becoming a division you have to pay attention to, and not just because of the drama possible that the East is the best division football at sacrilegious.

Now I like it with our soap opera clutch talking about Cooper cup was any.

I was actually good for Josie. That's right okay yes it's Cooper clutch on one team and Cooper MVP/Triple Crown winner on the team. It's the battle of the Coopers.

I like it.

The Coopers play football. Do you I would say Cooper cup. Would you simply have to say negatively about Cooper rush. Nothing. Nothing at all.

Nothing at all in their you don't get to say anything negative about Cooper rush clutch Cooper clutch thank you Zeke, although I did for 2nd° talk about Cooper cup, like a longer sample size is where he had more of a sample size. More wraps the longer tenure to be able to impact the game around him, but I'll know you gave the other coupe some time. How many people thought Cooper remaining when they rear type of the battle of the Coopers. If we go the Coopers plays like a board room.

Everyone knows that Cooper Manning is Archie's favorite successful his son is arch. So now all of a sudden Coopers in a position of influence although he always was, as the big brother that family dynamic is so is so interesting.

All right, so Paul includes raters cheese bangles ravens cowboys rams and then we had the debates, J. J wanted to include Giants, Green Bay Packers, and they're both three and one gates in London. There's a lot of attention. I tried to tell him I don't think anyone will vote for that game you to think like the people think.

J. Are you in touch with the people. People want. I agree pretty quickly that I think I said that I will make anyone actually cares about the Giants may have an earned the respect of this team of things about this trustee mimic on our but so that I and while your three and why was that story and one for my team right now were my thought came from or to battle 231 teams or are they as good as a pack is probably not for the three and wonder they are so you can take away from. I didn't really push back too hard when the we opted to put the bills in the good and the Steelers. You know, this could end up being a total for the Giants. They go to London. They capture a bunch of new fans across the pond so they could get Aaron Rodgers thinking about beers and a pop. Did you hear what Roger said today he actually is, put out that the coach is the relay Packers coaches chose to do all their prep at home before they fly to London. He was open for a vacation around his game players is my new adjustment schedule throws well when writing too much in this world inside. I think the reason is that I want to go early to experience it out and see some sights and I knew it is that's will want to go early coaches are so concerned with secrecy's scheduling stuff. So any minute change and throw them off okay.

My new favorite Aaron Rodgers answer is good is our ELA acts lack throws well in his eyes.

So I'd like you to try to eat the microphone so my point is for the Giants. Maybe they can catch Aaron Rodgers sneaking at night at the pub drinking the local brews never know. I could see you drinks I want guy get brew with the pub is out of the question, is the only drink prices is that the thing is smoking them.

I suppose all of these days that's not even something of a cares about right. So we went with not Giants and Packers because, well, as we explained, I don't think that game will get the votes, but I do think across the country. Number one. The bills are still considered one of the best teams in the NFL and no one forgotten how they smashed the rams earlier in the season, and I know they've suffered a couple of letdowns and and frustrating games, but the way they just came back against the ravens in Baltimore maybe set them off now since my new path gives them a new fire and kinda reminds them of how good they can be and should be and the expectations they have for themselves plus Kenny Pickett's welcome to the rookie you want to start well here. How about in Orchard Park where they body slam tables for fun. Aha. Let's do this thing, let's see what you got.

So yes I do believe Steelers bills will have a lot of intrigue for those two reasons. So I talked producer J off of London town and into Steelers bills speak for yourself.

I hope all is up on Twitter a lot radio or are show Twitter after I receive yes by the way, when we shared the video of the pitbull who refused to get out of the pool.

About 24 hours ago. The responses I got to that we shared on both Twitter and Facebook.

I went back and watch it again on Thursday when I had a couple of three seconds it's still funny.

I still know the pitbull won't get out of the pool and it's funny anyway. Just so it's so great that dogs can make us laugh like that and he still makes me laugh every day. My friend that I mentioned was visiting from Denmark. She's not a huge dog lover.

She's pretty afraid of them and I said to her panties, very friendly, very gentle to she jump like that Penny hasn't jumped at about three years he wanted to talk to her was nervous, but by the time she left she was bonding with panties. I was good is good all right do we have to talk about Thursday night football again to the top of the hour. Can we like. We skip it for 20 didn't happen now is almost really Dr. Tom Brady was was prophetic. If you miss what he had to say about the football in the first month he knew what was happening Thursday night football what I watch a lot about football a lot of football is fussy about it, not shells of you don't hear about it will have to skip the first segment of next hour, but in the meantime, we've got more goodies for you so pulls up on social media class. We want to remind you that defense wins championships all about it. Local radio stations range of your favorite teams from your hometown you nice your listening experience. Remind your local support template to listen to and download the free app today. You are listening to the after-hours podcast championships go rushing through the city's did you know defense wins championships just take our word for it. If you feel like you can buy in, you don't smell overstepping in well just give us a chance, it's definitely right now, a league in which the defense is showing off. We got the defenses that are flexing their muscles as offenses are trying to find a red inconsistent at best. There are very few offenses that look blue and look as though they're locked in for the entire four quarters. Maybe week five produces something different. But early on defenses or making noise after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio called linebackers Ira Franklin was a major reason why the culture able to hold the Broncos at bay. No touchdowns over four in the red zone.

Yes, Yvonne Gilmore, not just an interception but the ball tipped away on the last play of the game. Franklin ended up with nine tackles and had a dish in five of those solos that were were looking at defenses doing the same thing for the cold as many defenses I just mentioned Macri Nichols offenses looked messy at times. There is no Jonathan Taylor last night and yet this defense is so good it's physical. It's tough. And they are right now giving the coach a chance to win every timeout is what you will want to be one of them again comes on execution twice.

They denied the Broncos in the late stages of the fourth quarter then into overtime when there into the red zone.

The Colts defense definitely earns game balls all around the Broncos and Bradley child. He had two sacks last night of the sixth against Matt Ryan to the Broncos linebacker is disheartening as the team loses again at home loses at home and falls to two and three. He says they are not giving up and they're not fractured in their locker room to fill this scene was right around this are suggested for your use down the windows on top. I love that we know it can pop and when it does pop. It's good to be a rude awakening for everybody. We drop J we could use that about our show. We know it's got a pop and when it pops, it could be a rude awakening for everybody in sports radio that's fantastic.

It's after hours with Amy Lawrence of Albany's music that producer J is chosen for defense wins championships. What is that I take this across from NFL films feel that it fulfills you think so defense music you you you you do on the bus like old films easy to me.

Pop and when it does every waking friend buddy else out there. We will Tom Brady says just watching some really bad defense did its job to the sacking.

Matt Ryan six times a couple interceptions over doing the red zone. Unfortunately neither offense could get into the end zone last night and so it fell offense football offense back a few decades I moving on to what's to come in week five we got one of your game of the week candidates from the AFC West.

The cheese shop that Sunday night game in which Julie had their way against the Buccaneers defense while they established the Rhine, but Travis Kelsey Patrick Holmes creative elusive makes it up as he goes along, all working in Tampa.

They carry that forward. One thing that Patrick's been talking about this season and he's not going downfield quite as much a reason that some of that left-wing Thai retail retail was stretching the field against all defenses and he was the one who could look for downfield because he was so speedy to get under any of the air balls that pass through and so was talking about this during the week you were playing and deep balls that the Chiefs are even trying or connecting on the chair of learned or specialist last season into this season is in order for office success on some of the patient take out any stuff in and does throw some of the chains and trust in our office, 1/3 down and when the shots, execute and that something that you continue to do to us in talking to you to prove it and not as the season goes on the shuttle continue to start having more more often. Another game to watch this weekend the Dolphins without to entangle below on the road at the jet to just beat the Steelers last week in Pittsburgh it's Teddy Bridgewater.

So what is Jets defense of Courtney or Jeff Ulbrich know about Teddy's experience clearly sees the field very well still good athlete.

Even though he's been playing for quite a bit so we can charge with his legs in his arm and his mind Cincinnati at Baltimore out of the sea. The ravens defense and offense both embarrassed last week and that fourth-quarter collapse against the bill.

Marlin Humphrey says watching TV these days can knock you down a peg. You know I got you got more football network doing is one day but it's humbling to look up there like that.

We got Mark peters all got me Marcus Williams, dog, child, all these guys great players but you were still trying to come together me to look up their lunches you 30 seconds, just like it's great to see you. I like to say humble, but were still trying to go together and we really want to get that 32nd down and see northbound on Sunday night football the right place to start Cincinnati at Baltimore.

Meanwhile Pittsburgh with Kenny Pinkett starting to below where the bills defense is anchored and propelled and energized by one Von Miller was a very specific plan for game days are going to have peace once again knowing I did everything I possibly could to have success in his and no that gives me peace and whether we win or whatever the outcome may be a piece as I know I did everything I possibly could do and sometimes noticeable. Does business.

You know your son, so that a favor for a little bit here and no, I just like to myself and responsible situation. I have success. So this will do if it's from a mental standpoint of a physical standpoint of emotional standpoint when I'm going to the game. Amenities his former team try to defend that Super Bowl title there is a great addition. Each party specially when Guy Street onto the field just never know.

You never know what is wrong for a reason sometimes and again produces them to happen but you never know with the persons gonna talk to the hands that would ever come across a method again so you know there's consequences for your actions for your actions. If you run out of fear when Bobby Wagoner is lurking you get flattened and that dumb streaker has the nerve to file a police report. What is trespassing and running out onto a field at a professional football game. What I like to call people names much but dumb down you're not winning that battle to win that war, nor even to win when Bobby Wagoner is coming right at you, so maybe best to stay in your seat and keep your pink smoke to yourself. If after hours with Amy Lawrence CBS sports radio, local radio stations range of your favorite teams from your hometown, you can completely cost listening. Remind your local support template to listen to and download the free