After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 2

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I just happen to have it that after hours with Amy on CBS. As I mentioned before, the top of the hour, the Cleveland Browns do extend their preseason storage to DeShawn Watson in week number one if the six-game suspension holds he would not be able to compete all the way through the preseason only at the beginning so maybe that's the logic, but we got this appeal potentially illegal charge so that obviously casting a black shadow over the NFL. Regardless of anything else that happens right now though I didn't enjoy. I did enjoy the distraction that was the Lions hard knocks and some of the fun quotes and bites and videos that have come out of episode one. I'm telling you, I'm all in on the Lions. The fees at work and adopt them hereinafter hours it's Amy Lawrence here on CBS sports radio and were live from the rocket mortgage Studios when you need cash out of your home and a simple way to get it rocket can.

You can find me on Twitter a low radio also on our Facebook page after hours with a got a new video up on our YouTube channel and a lot of you checked out the video version asked Amy on YouTube in the last 24 hours a thank you for supporting us and connecting with us even on our various social media websites so we talked about hard knocks and just before we bring in Lindsay. We got some of the choice it drops from not just Jamaal Williams but head coach Dan Campbell think about is you guys think about room in our lives are you will is marginal with Verizon contributor. All will letter to that one chicken three Joe's I will be to there's no one in the end about like him absolutely no one, and on that note, let's bring in a long time, TV, radio, podcast host Lindsay is joining as you got the NFO she's entrenched and not just the actual football but the fantasy football were always pleased when she can join us from LA I the I could go on and on and tell you all about my favorite bits and moments from hard knocks, but were one episode in what is out about the liens on their hard knocks debut will say I am going here like that. Lion Van Dyke: her over the roar all the bags and in a I'm really excited about it and that is wrong with it excitement. I feel I can you clarify that I'm not like the decking to go win the Super Bowl.

I love what I saw from them last year with a knotted of structures in the NFL writing you know I could tell that Dan Campbell had one in over and they were getting getting everything that they had and I think that they have added to the roster this year and I think they actually have a pretty good roster this season. I think that they're going to be at hand like that and it takes in Hopland and I think that there is a strong possibility of it. I would bet the over on that. I like this team to surprise people this year and by surprise people. I mean like be an average to flight you know you're coming off of three went so all of that said, I love hard knocks and I love Dan Campbell. His metaphors are next in their disaster.

And it kind of comical but every time he talks I like yet IAI would hundred percent run for a walk parenteral offer.

You get me fired up so I love I love you talked about it in hard knocks about how he had specifically told the coaches want you to be yourself.

Don't cut your hair because you think about what a coach should look like you.

You will be you and that really resonates right now because I think a lot of players and people book players most important indicate the bacon fan you know of the excerpt from a mile away so you think everything has shifted towards authenticity, like the media we consume is people talking like people and so I think you can you can sense when somebody's trying to be something that they're not and I love that Ian Campbell has just fully embraced like I am to be me in all of the raw ways.

Sometimes it doesn't play well like on me and I'm totally here for you guys and I'm all in, and I think that I got the sense last year and I definitely got the scent during hard knocks that that they get that feeling from him and I think that there can want to play really hard for him this year they're gonna want to bite kneecaps is what you're saying. I don't know but I'm I'm liking the you know the other. I'm trying to think of any speeches he gave don't have curse words and Jean Campbell moment is when he tries to convince them. He's not alluded to just embrace the lunatic because it's working for you right now. It certainly is good TV with my apologies to coach my favorite was Aiden Hutchinson spilling out some Billie Jean in front of the entire meeting room and the whole room just interrupting for the chorus that I want that envelope so many times today but I feel like I've got the entire video memorized unit are a couple quick to become viral prior to watching the whole show clip, and I'm walking the dog still sitting there with the mile like ear to ear smile on my face walking in and I thought this seemed like self for why people play this moment right here where they're all sitting there and having a black and they're all united in it like one moment during on the rookie and thinking of Michael Jackson song why people ultimately do it is the feeling that they get from that, you know like you do between the white line obviously a huge part of it very important, but what people talk about after they're done playing when they retire and they missed the game yes it does moment and watching it I was like man like that that you know and and you have that in Little League you have that in all levels of work like that.

The moment you're looking for absolutely no lights at this category but we had this conversation on my show this week is every year in the NFL about half the play all field turns over whether or not the line to that category.

We had a variety of answers.

Teams that could in fact insert themselves into the 2022 playoff bracket who you think are a few candidates who were not in the playoffs last year but should have those expectations for the season. All my gosh yes that was a popular answer that one, and particularly talking about the North.

I'm thinking originally liens like do that is possible and I think there should be awful to take them off the table and then it kinda becomes like for the second team coming out of that division. It feels like it could be the Vikings.

The lines could fight for that but I think the Vikings are certainly going to be favored and should be expected to do better than the land sees hard because there's so many teams have made jumped especially in the West, yet, and the Chargers are the obvious answer right like the fact of the Chargers didn't go in that that lack second game against the Raiders where it the Raiders had just done a mythology both could've gone, we wouldn't have been subjected to watching the Steelers and the post event that would've been fun.

The Chargers are one my favorite tyrant about the most obvious answer. I think that they have one of the best talk to and obviously the bill in the block fall into that category all but I think the Chargers are easily the team that probably is like the lowest on Wednesday rule that I think actually has a legit chance to win a Super Bowl like the best that I would want to make you know that I think is really I feel comfortable with. I love what they did not even in terms of the additions that they made on the defensive side of the ball bringing the pieces that they did going into year three with just her like textbook roster building and I love all the moves that they've made, and I'm deeding it just her family just so that that would be my most obvious one I think the Colts nearly got to the playoffs last or two they lost to Jacksonville in that final week and they add Orion. I'm wondering how you feel about the Dolphins because their team. I've been part of a lot of chatter this off-season. They still have to up at they've added some weapons almost be like if she doesn't take a major this year than it's him it's not what the a 100%, which is why think that they would have been brilliant in terms of how to approach this thought because they put so many people around him and they taken away so they're going to get a fair evaluation of who he is as a quarterback.

I kind of think that he's gonna step up and that the Dolphins are going to be pretty good and that they will be in the next for a playoff berth that currently with the potential to be the second best team in that division. I am a little worried seeing and hearing coming out of Foxboro this year.

Obviously, the bill for the favorite division, but I think that the Dolphins could be in a position to fight for wild-card spot. I I really am most interested to see want to actually hit the field put all these pieces together in week one, because I think I read Hill and Jaelyn waddled together will open things up for other people. This is a team that had the worst I think literally the separation like no pocket Parker ranked last in the last year in the NFL have everyone receive her as a wide receiver or they were one of the worst teams in the NFL at separation and I think that that put two in a really tough position because he's having to throw the ball into a bunch of tight windows and that obviously leads to fewer yards after the catch is because they don't have faith with which to work. It put in a position to throw more interceptions than he would like that good news there is that he actually made the throws anyway into the tight windows. Just know that he's not afraid to be of no faculty to take with her to read Hill on the field you take the weight of Dante Parker and you have one of the league's best separators and you know that you can pick up backyard and Jaelyn waddled is very good in that department. Also, in an open things up for everybody like there always adding these pieces that they've added this year are really smart strategically in terms of helping to its development, not just the obvious like and now they have a guy to stretch the field and Jaelyn ever got taken. No bring out of the backfield like they're on of different ways that these pieces are really smartly put together and then obviously anything changes on the offense of line and in the backfield field is crowded but none of them are like you don't recognize the character anything but there a lot of weapons there. So I'm really curious to see what they're going to do with all these people and what Mike McDaniels will be like as a head coach to look very similar to San Francisco can be like a favorite discussed type of thing all the writers that I talked to out of Miami say yes everything you hear in that department is exactly what you should.

I think they're one of the more exciting teams in the NFL in terms of overall.

Like I've reached a point in my career. I think those are the most interesting teams like yes the builder interesting. Yes the doctor and yet the Rams are interesting, but I know what to expect a competent Trinity good. I don't really have questions, you who can be to build three and one block job you know naming. There are some there some questions that I have that are interesting for fantasy or DFS or whatever, but when it comes to like how different will the Dolphins see how different will the lion be you know how will I think the Falcons are to be awful who pieces companies get somebody to step up and make place for them.

Yes, maybe not as many as we would like to like poor people because they're not obvious.

I think those in a more interesting story to be good or bad, you know, I don't know why young pieces they could really, as long as the owner doesn't make jokes about taking and all of a sudden all hell breaks loose again, but we know the NFL doesn't actually believe that happened course of the show when playing jazz or spending a few minutes with one of our favorite flimsy roaches got the NFL roads to know not only her personal podcast but is now part of the serious XM podcast network and she's got a fantasy show which I have not really sure when it's time for me to jump in a fantasy so I asked Lindsay about that.

It's after hours here on CBSSports. Imagine San Francisco so I popped in my head is very good fit out there for Jimmy Groh below remains to be seen whether or not he's traded but do you see a fit for him. Not so earlier this week with payment plan and there was like there was there a few hours when we didn't know, you know, he'd left the field and injury and read it. It was in my brain went immediately to Jimmy Groh below.

I think that it can have to be a team like that again. Just as a sprained ankle. He is not expected to be out for very long, so I don't think that that's the answer there, but I think Virginia gravel have to be a team that is ready to make a playoff run. They don't have to be. You know, one of the clear and obvious Super Bowl contenders, but they need to be attained good enough that it makes sense to bring on any kind of salary in Jimmy Greco like you need to be attained that were competitive and we need to stay afloat and Ginny is somebody who can help day. That way I don't think that it makes anything. If you're a team like I had Bruce Murray from Sirius XM NFL radio on my podcast this week. It comes out or will it just came out so but we can but we actually talked about this very thing we talked about Daniel down and there been some reports that he's not looking really good. While if you're halfway through the year. Daniel Jones doesn't look good at.

That is the situation right don't think it makes sense because you don't have a roster they can go be competitive right away. So why would you bring on salary like just let it ride with Daniel Jones or whoever else you have there like don't go spending a lot of money to make yourself more competitive when you're not really built to be particularly competitive.

So like that's an example of the team that were, I wouldn't go make the move to change our team where I would if the circumstances presented himself where, for whatever reason you couldn't stick with your starter, but as of right now I think the Niners have smartly in that somebody in the NFL is bound to go down right and I certainly don't want that to happen, but just hold them hold keep holding him and then then then dealing when the value is at at its peak when a team is desperate to bring in Jimmy Groh below, and I just don't think anybody fits that bill right now. Talk this week about the Panthers shopping and Arnold putting that out. Yeah what what what Sam, Donald and Arnold can't beat out Baker Mayfield to be the starting quarterback and Carolina and I have been somebody who is that a million times and bad situations. His entire career rightly get about five games last year were he was in a good situation and then Christian McCaffrey to develop a whole offense around goes down with an injury. All his wide receivers like lead the NFL and drop like they're a bunch of things that for the rest of the year were not good first and Arnold so and we all know it was a bad situation for him in New York, but if you can't beat out Baker Mayfield to be the quarterback of the team that were expecting to be pretty bad and Carolina and like who wants him who needs him.

$18 million to come either quarterback like that happen so Ginny I think is a step above that I just I think it has to be the right situation out think it presented itself.

Yet, definitely one of the questions of the preseason or as you say Lindsay into the regular season are to put off as long as I possibly can.

We have to talk about the DeShawn Watson situation. The latest development in Cleveland got a take a quick break though worse to have you for a few extra minutes. In fact, most of the sour, not something that I normally do. Lynn zero the NFL road was with us here after hours with Amy.

You were listening to the after-hours podcast Lawrence Commissioner Roger Dell explaining why the NFL is appealing the six-game suspension of one DeShawn Watson even as the team announces that he will start their first preseason game in Jacksonville coming up on Friday night. It's after hours with Amy and Lynn zero TV anchor and podcast host. She got the NFL own. I recently listened to her conversation with Jim Trotter about the DeShawn Watson situation, among other things. So Lindsay, I want to ask you two questions.

Let's start with Cleveland. They are going to use DeShawn Watson in their preseason game. How would you evaluate the way the Browns are handling the situation to this point, but I'm to go get him and offer him the highest guaranteed contract and sold their soul to bring him in a very good football player will know that though I personally based on the evidence that is out there that we can judge guilt or innocence by because you never can have a smoking gun in these types of cases right there never going to be a camera in the massage room for obvious reasons. I don't want anyone taking my massage right I like there is enough corroborating evidence that supports the stories of many many many of the women in the fact that there are so many women has you know it is concerning to me. I think that there are enough reasons to believe that the brown either didn't particularly care and just prioritize the fact that he was a very good ballplayer and and I think that they probably didn't look that closely into it you know and and there are stories out there about them not letting that closely into that hated the attorney for the women thing the hidden hear from the team prior to them signing him so they said they vetted him I will.

I would argue either. I don't know how they could possibly vetted him in a way that they felt comfortable based on the things that I have read and all things that are public knowledge, though I'm I'm not a big fan of just the fact that they gave up as much as they did to bring him in. I am not surprised that they did and I think we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that there were several other teams the Panthers being one of them since we were talking about them that were would have been just as happy to put themselves in that position so it's not just the Browns at several teams in the NFL, but there already so far down the road they are invested. He's their guy, so they can do those that would make it seem like they actually care now because even their statement after the initial suspension a suspension. Excuse me annoyed me with the word triggered adjusting in general. It feels like right now, as you point out there so far down the road they're not even trying really that I know I don't think that there is anything I knew what what could he do limiter question background you is there anything that you think that they could do that would make you feel like there was some genuine or authentic concern of about the things he's been accused of doing short of keeping him off the football field until they figure out what happens with the appeal.

Probably not. But the fact that they're ready to trot them out there.

Whether or not he is about to start a suspension just seems almost to be a smack in the face to anybody who doesn't agree with their move, especially when you are likely to start a different quarterback at the beginning of the season just odd. Everything about this whole situation feels like there to do their own thing, regardless of what anybody thinks I mean yeah I think that that is true, it should expect them to do that they find him and paid in the amount of money that they did think that we knew that they were going to operate in that fashion. One of the things that get lost in the decision Robinson made was that she effectively like it were a court of law, and it's not and it's not treated like that, they were talking about more of like this double burden of proof like more likely than not it not beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt like it would be in a criminal case, and she effectively ruled guilty without using network is again it's not a legal hearing, but she effectively said in her ruling that she thinks he did the things that he was accused of doing even use the word egregious and predatory, like she went pretty far in it like I don't know if she would know the NFL. One day proved they met the burden of proof in this case I believe he did the things the only reason Jim six-game because according to her, the NFL had gone far enough in the past with their past punishment and so he didn't see a precedent which is why I am frustrated that the NFL in the appeal which I don't necessarily think she would be offended by because she sort of lead it all out like you did your punishment process.

You hadn't done enough right of your asking me to look at this as an independent person.

I can't say that his punishment should be X number of games because you've never done that before so I think that Roger ghetto really blew his hand to stand up and take ownership for the brand of the NFL and the powers that hold they like she's right she used these words we believe he did the things to we haven't been strong enough interdisciplinary process in the past. At AMD's particular types of cases and working to make them think anymore we're going to come after that.

With the strength of our men can actually put the meat behind it and terms of the punishment, and I think the NFL specifically should have done that.

I think they should have on staff punishment and they could've pointed to her saying the person found him guilty and so this is what the punishment should be for that type of crime" and instead you have to talk to somebody different, though, even if that person said you know what year the NFL can't even own because they didn't decide to make the decision himself. See, here's what I'm coming up with Lindsay road is with us here after hours on sports radio. Roger Dell said on Tuesday that they don't count. This is one case right so she said, is a first-time offender, though she clearly believe that he writes that he was, I felt that he was guilty of the things that that he was accused of by these women as you point out, and they only presented for cases we don't really know why. Maybe those were the four strongest cases the best testimony.

Maybe they had corroborating circumstantial evidence.

But if it's not one case. Then if you break it up and for cases and presented as four separate people and you can't say he's a first-time offender when there's four separate people. The only thing I can think is maybe that's where the NFL goes with its appeal to this, Peter Harvey, former New Jersey AG so that it's not one case it's multiple cases there and they had the basis for adding to the six games break it up. And so it's not just one case that I think would most likely that I think he probably ruled this week. I think that there will be pressure from the NFL for DeShawn Walker not to take the field and think that there will be people in the front office today that is bad luck we just had an arbitrator think he was effectively guilty of the relatively horrible thing right and call him predatory and said his behavior was agreed to trot them out in one of our 32 brand like as the face of that franchise. And I think that they will think that that is not a good look for the NFL. Think about what that looks like the next day. You know for for women's groups for people who are watching for the women who were affected watching him trot on the field to cheers, though I don't think they're gonna want that to happen. I think that there and try to expedite the appeal. I think that there will they will lean on that new arbitrator to to hand down a verdict ASAP and I will I would be surprised.

I don't nothing about it just my read of the situation. I would be surprised if it didn't come down before Friday before DeShawn Watson was scheduled to take the field because they don't think that that's a good look for the larger picture of the brand, and I know that the NFL is all about protecting the field. I would also be surprised if it was less than a year and I think that the the verbiage there is important I think it will be a year as opposed to 17 game because it 17 games, which is effectively a year, still quite in the preseason right away that night because that's not included in the punishment, whereas if they say it's a year but same thing in terms of the larger picture you that now includes the preseason and held the NFL deals with that door until we figure out what happens next. There could be a legal challenge, but this is the story that'll think it affects the apples popularity because it seems to be impenetrable when it comes to its ability to roll with the punches and continue moving forward but it is still the number one story in the league. And I think that they would love to get that off from pages so to speak. And yes, a grill and on your thinking. You will know about writing down right so that on Friday there on Friday to grab attention. On Thursday there will be a bunch of games on Saturday and Sunday. Yes, it will, it will get knocked off that the front pages in terms of NFL news right away, which is exactly what you want to happen quick so by Friday so not sure I agree with you there all right Lindsay we've hit the serious stuff the serious substance in the NFL. You are the fantasy queen and so I just grab a couple more minutes will give people a taste of early fantasy strategy plus that movie review I've been saving it after hours with Amy and Lindsay, Rosie and I followed. She's joining us here on CBS sports radio for a few more minutes you are listening to the after-hours podcast because we got some really stuff to get to saloon zero the NFL Rhodes OTB radio and podcast host. You are the queen of faith, you got a year-round, but if you show on Sirius XM enough, a radio, what do I need to get deep into my baby prep but my husband first monograph today all it was all I could do for the first time to do a mock after lengthy, here are my options and I was like, I just wanted to do it for him actually much better exercise would be like you did you do to you and then look at it out but I would like known and under no, these are your options here. I know you have all of these guys available, but like half of these guys really are good options.

So I took him about five round. Even then I was like I really should let this go. I have unlike 10 draft deed. My my season so far so, several more to go but interesting exercise to really like the best ball draft last year and sees Michael how many major UN right and you can only manage so many league season in my opinion where you're actually having to make moves and pay attention and pick guys up off of waivers and stuff like that, but that's all that is it allows you to put together on a rafters at this time of year you get really, really you still figuring out where the trends are even play with it here and there that like I'm a big running back running back in the first two rounds per in the rafters only rosters that I like, like if I get twisted and they like to have the Healthy so much better position than the running back that I get at the end of the second right, you know something like that.

I never like to build. I never like the roster ultimately if you call you kind of can play with you things and just see it like maybe this year is different. Maybe I could put together something that looked like that and then all you have to do during the season is check back in and see how you're doing because there's no maneuvers and best ball there. They're going to pull out your top scores if it you know to running backs and three wide receivers out of all your running backs and all your right receivers the clout to talk to scores in the top three scores, so you'd have to draft the roster that has high upside just up and down the board so that you could potentially went head-to-head battle but you're not making those maneuvers. So if you haven't gotten into it yet really easy way to do real prep for your home league box draft. What I find or what I found in the past. If you go on a website and you just talk into a mock draft room. People are autographing after like three rounds and it is not. You don't learn anything. The whole point is to see what people actually do so. You know you could sign up for a Bethel he put 10.10 dollars down or whatever and then just check back in throughout the season. If it works it works. If it doesn't it doesn't and but but it's really press you to see like where the runs are and what's likely to happen and if you don't take a tight end early like where Dalton soaked in Adele. You know like you could get them relatively late and there's so much upside for him as a Titan is one of my favorite tight end target because you can get it later and and fill your roster up with the high upside running backs and wide receivers don't don't go get an early quarterback know one thing I'm not to how excited they do homes or something like that. Like if it don't do it where you there so that quarterback position is that we need here is so deep you could wait till round about quarterback long. I get to ANSI I get quarterback trigger-happy unless you're playing with a bunch of people who have no idea what they're doing, in which case all of the quarterback come off the board and then you have to make moves accordingly. There's so much that okay okay breathing ovaries all breathe him. Actually I'm in the league was Cynthia Freeland it's some pretty impressive women who are in this league so will see what happens but all right ate rounds to wait eight rounds that's tough.

But I'll do it if you give me that's because he's my kryptonite driving skills in the board.

I have to take him. I love me some Travis Kelsey in my fantasy draft every year. I love him to watch.

No way. Yes we we we didn't know it possible multiple lately… Organize. Now she's not that organized. What I'm not to go check and see if you are in that league are and ignore everything I go draft Doc Allen in the background have healthy birth there will be plenty of running back related technology here is was my first draft pick last year and he did pretty well.

I was happy and so are you go last week or tried to get you on the show and you were busy you have plans which is totally fine if you have a life you would you want to see Top Gun maverick, what did you think okay do you think okay for me to say something that might be a spoiler for two months now.

Okay okay I'm talking about my true feelings are trying to be protective of everyone. Everyone I know everyone has said it's great you're gonna love it and loved it right so consistent and I love Top Gun I'm super and Celtic about that movie just childhood the ongoing so excited for the first half of it. I literally like, you and help you build on the only person that didn't like it. No, for the first half day qualifier. The person I thought.

He's he like there were too many callbacks to the first movie I get so many you're really doing gun by 2022 I got like near the first time you did something from the first movie, but then once they get into the mission. All my gosh I love that I loved loved loved it. I walked away so excited about that movie loved the experience. The second half totally made up for the part in the first half that I thought were incredibly cheesy.

The one thing that I will say is at the end. I don't understand why they did this when he comes back he goes to the bar to go get Jennifer Connelly's character. Yes, he's not there. Okay then fast forward, he appears to be back in the desert.

She goes and get him.

Why, why wouldn't she just there, why in the world have been working with her wasn't there and they need her. Go get him probably thinking in her mind that he's bailed on her yet again. I don't understand.

My cheesiest moment I would agree with you if she just she was in the bar. However, though as much cheese as there was when they started out with danger zone. That was it. We talked I didn't care how much cheese they gave me after that.

But that opening sequence with dinner zone and the fly off taking off and landing. I was already mesmerized at that point, the number of twists at the end.

Oh my gosh I thought he was dead like three times. No, all holy telegraph, you will created name. Now the jerk who really that he made the whole time. I knew for 100% certain he would coming to get like that would obviously getting in a plane. I thought he might go back before Brewster went back to either eat or what you knew that everything good to go back. I knew going in. I thought that maverick might die that he would die thinking reserve another another thing I knew we would go back and say Brewster was, yeah, point not seen like there is no way that they were all gonna leave and everything with me. Finally he had to say Brewster at some point before the end of the movie that was guaranteed stole a plane thanks worked. It worked. Even though it was like 30 years old noted no anyway but all great action yeah deserve all of this, like, okay, I will spend my room, I believe… Totally implausible. But you left the theater, smiling only got 11 okay good okay all right clearly you want me on now, you don't need to go to the whole movie, but he recommended yes I just got a new TV.

Actually, in anticipation of NFL season.

Mine was okay 13 years old. Don't economy it was a smart TV but at least it wasn't a tube TV so I upgraded and I got a new TV series like I upgraded so the smart TV with Amazon prime on it since that's what you got for Thursday night and now I'm thinking oh I'm a test drive it with a little Top Gun mavericks and I would want to again after this conversation, we now is available to be what I think. I think you can if you pay all through the nose for it. So maybe not right this second but, but pre-football season. I could feel it, that would be great.

I can't believe you knew all of the twins.

I was totally surprised by all of them. I know I'm a nerd when it comes to movies okay so this is so much fun. I feel like we to do what you do so much more to although not letting you tell me anymore of your movie stuff because I buy the ball okay so filing the on Twitter@Lindsay_Rhodes RHO DS the NFL roadshow is part of that Sirius XM network and her recent conversation with Jim Trotter. If you haven't heard, you want to check it out. Also on Sirius XM fantasy and DirecTV. Because the season is four weeks away, Lindsay. This was fine. We need to do this again soon. Always fun in any quantity I can honestly say this about Lindsay. There isn't a topic probably that we couldn't jabber about but also there are very few guess that I would either want to or be able to keep on the show for the better part of an hour and have it be interesting and fun.

So I hope you enjoyed Lindsay on the show because I certainly did this organic conversation and a back-and-forth fed covered a wide range of topics. Everything from edible preseason and hard knocks and the Lions in the Dolphins and to be garrotte below the latest in the DeShawn Watson case plus fantasy because she's the queen and clearly she had Top Gun map all figured out all of our show, including our guests are pot tested separately after hours Amy Lawrence.com and just like that we are halfway through. Did you hear the latest Kd news. I it's after hours on sports radio