After Hours with Amy Lawrence PODCAST: Hour 4

Good morning to you.

If you are waking up on your Wednesday. I feel your pain this morning. Generally I don't have any trouble staying up overnight. I'm pretty good at it night owl.

When I operates at my best actually is late-night and overnight attend to have a different kind of adrenaline will call after hours adrenaline anyway.

Not tonight. It's one of those nights into days where I'm traveling and it's I know it's crazy but I don't sleep when I'm traveling I don't want to waste the day so I end up going home finishing what I need to at the house taking care of the pets and then going straight to the airport, which is what I will be doing today about midmorning and catching the flight and so I don't sleep well on planes and as it turns out I did not sleep well on Tuesday.

Oh, heavens.

It was just one of those days were sleep was really hard to come by so about three hours of sleep on Tuesday. I know that explains why the show sometimes says odd words in its or thoughts I like so I think I kept it together pretty well on this edition of the show to be a challenge to clean anything when I get home leave my suitcases, mostly back but I do have a housesitter so I can't just leave without finishing. I did clean the bathrooms.

The floors are mostly clean her room is made up, but I still have dogging Things and some vacuuming to do actually giving given vacuuming versus cleaning my kitchen floor. My tile kitchen floor that one is a lot worse just get so dirty so quickly with people in pets tracking in and out.

I know I'm part of that amazing how dirty we get my family sometimes it's after hours with Amy Lawrence here on CBSSports ready over live from the rocket mortgage Studios when you need cash out of your home in a simple way to get it rocket can severe feeling the heavy on this hump day morning. Well, I am with you and Shelby awaken with you for most of home to idling my flight lands in Houston until 4 o'clock central time. So it's a long haul. I got another 11 hours to go before I'm even off the plane and then the this is what happens when I get to mom's house now shall be home from school by then her husband to pick me up at the airport. Social be home from school and they'll probably be hungry.

I'll probably be hungry and they'll want to eat and then she'll want to talk and visit and all that fun stuff and usually what happens is I tell her I'm a quick nap and she will not let me sleep all night. Of course, so I'll take a nap to come in to wake me up. Sometimes it takes more than one attempt to wake me up after I've been awake for nearly 30 something hours it's been 35, 36 hours before. Sometimes I don't go be quite that bad today but it'll at least be 30 and so then she'll you know she'll want to get up and all feel like I got hit by a truck it will get better until I wake up Thursday morning after sleeping, but the good news is that I don't worry about waking up to walk my own dog and Thursday so that's fantastic. The last time I was in Houston I had my dog with me, so there is no sleeping in, but might be able to sleep in on Thursday, but I'm keeping in mind right now.

Flights and sleep some points so good morning to you.

I hope that you're far more refreshed than I am. You can find me on Twitter Ehlo radio also on our Facebook page after hours with Amy Lawrence we have really covered a variety of topics on the show already.

Everything from John wall and his revelation and his encouragement to some of the cuts from NFL cut down day to Cynthia Freeland and her interesting day. And what really happened with Baker Mayfield will actually let you hear that explanation just to be like completely transparent. We had reached out to Cynthia Freeland to appear on the show because she does routinely. She's one of our favorites and she's a friend of mine. She's the Commissioner of my fantasy football league.

Anyway, she had last week was on the East Coast. It was a little harder for her to join us and she wanted to wait and she got back to LA so with producer J reached out to her on Tuesday without knowing that she had kind of been the center of a firestorm. And if you don't know. Well, I suppose you will exploited here, covered up a simple conversation with Baker Mayfield turned into a big brouhaha but it's the whole thing. Well, you know how it is of the NFL everything it's overblown and so her explanation of it is well it's it's accurate also.

But it's she puts it in perspective, which I appreciate. So you'll hear that from her but we did a lot of fun stuff with Cynthia.

She's got this new formula where she comes up with all this unique math, but she does she love that she's the queen of data science.

She's got a new formula and some analytics that that rival wins above replacement in the NFL and the and majorly baseball sees me so she's got kind of this formula that works for the NFL, where she can can assign value based on various factors to different players and how many wins there good for now it's analytics. Of course the meaning it's how you take it with a grain of salt, but is interesting to see her plug in the various factors and come out with these numbers and I just always fascinated by the VF formulas that she is able to generate.

She's always got some new statistical category, so she's a lot of fun. She loves football and she loves math and she's made a career out of combining the two for the NFL network and so will hear from her. In addition, we will have a QB news before this hour is up for the first time John Gruden speaks out on the emails that led to him resigning from the Vegas raters. Not quite a year ago we we still have him as the head coach of the Raiders this time last year, but he was making an appearance and he wanted to be frank, he did not want to avoid the questions he didn't want to avoid the topic what he wanted to do was now only tell his side of the story, but also admit to what he did wrong, I'm not going to say anything but honest things here. I'm ashamed about what is come about in these emails shall make no excuses for it is it's it's shameful. But I am a good person.

I believe that I go to church been married for 31 years, three great boys.

I still love football makes mistakes, but I don't think anybody will in here hasn't I just asked for forgiveness and hopefully I get another shot know if John Gruden gets another shot of the head coach. I would be surprised by that.

Although Mark Davis obviously loves him but now Mark Davis has Josh McDaniel maybe is that assistant coach. I could see that we we have seen guys pop up again after time away as assistant coaches and he did have opportunities to be a college coach.

He had turned those down before to stay in media until Davis offered him a 10 year deal. He's 59 now and as you hear him say he's sorry he needs asking for forgiveness for these emails that were leaks in an unpublished and in various newspapers or online and it is a lot of offensive language. The part that Gruden doesn't understand.

I think the part.

A lot of people don't understand is how it was only Gruden's emails that were leaked. Even though there were upwards of 650,000 emails collected in this investigation of the Washington then Redskins, but the Washington football team really extensive investigation about workplace culture and about that the toxic environment that was created under Daniel Snyder 650,000 emails and only John Gruden and Scott leaks to either someone had a vendetta against him or this was done intentionally. I mean there's a lot of different theories and he filed a lawsuit because he believes that the NFL in the Commissioner chose to leak his emails to force his removal. That sounds very conspiracy theorist and yet there's a reason why only hit I don't believe in coincidence.

There's a reason why only his emails were leaked to remember there been attempts by different news organizations by different media organizations to uncover the rest of the Washington investigation, but the Commissioner has managed to dodge that to this point and so instead it's John Gruden who gets exposed now that he should be protected for these things. It's just you can understand why he would believe that he was targeted why he was exposed on purpose were so many others were protected and after hours here on CBS sports radio John Gruden net Tuesday at the Little Rock touchdown club mu recognizes that he's been a target and that that the new cycle. The media cycle can latch onto something and spin and spin and spin out of control almost choked up, you know, because there's a lot of misunderstanding out there right now what you read what you hear what you watch on TV though I worked at ESPN for nine years.

I will target the job only want to watch the channel anymore because I don't believe everything is true. He goes on to say and I worked in the same place. I know a lot of it is just trying to get people to watch, but I think we've got to get back to reality. The John Gruden speaking out for the first time since his resignation with the Raiders, who then had Rich beside Gia as their head coach and actually went to the playoffs and finished with double figure wins now corsets Josh McDaniels and beside Gia is the special-teams coaching Green Bay, which I think if you're gonna have to start over and land somewhere new. Or that's a good place to land me while you know that it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio. We will do some QB news coming up but Kyle Shanahan speaking out about Jimmy garrotte below staying with the Niners that this is a conference call so the audio is a little muddy, but you can hear it is just not quite what you would expect if he was sitting at a podium. He says that they wouldn't have Jimmy garrotte below her wouldn't have wanted to restructure his contract if he weren't a legit number two behind Trey Lantz but he is behind Trey Lance role and become an option until it was clear so far no. So again the audience little bit dicey just because he's on call and it's being recorded off a call by he does refer to the lack of options for Jimmy garrotte below and the fact that garrotte below had to agree to a backup role, but I don't know how many people out there are buying and this includes our former NFL QB turned into LaShawn King, who joined us on our last show he actually believes this is the right move for the Niners because they have a veteran option. Who knows how to win. Should Trey Lantz not pan out, and that's the dilemma I think that's what a lot of analysts were thinking it would be better to avoid but hey, if you're the Niners I get it you want to break in your young QB. He fits the offense of system of Kyle Shanahan and in addition to that he's athletic. He's explosive. He's cheaper because he thought his rookie deal you moved up to get him in the draft last year. So of course you want to work out sooner rather than later. By you also want to win and they got the NC championship last year. Trey did get a couple starts but garrotte below was a far better option as it changed that much is Trey Lance now commensurate with Jimmy garrotte below me is a higher ceiling to be sure, but he also at this point is higher risk, higher risk, high reward that a garrotte below who you know what you have when he goes on the field. I know if I'm Kyle Shanahan I of course in preaching the fact that garrotte blows the back, but this was the best option for for him to stay here so we got also recognizing that he's the best option for us at backup as well and with a young starting quarterback and with the injuries that are so replete in the NFL. You never know when you're gonna need a backup.

Would you rather have garrotte below that anybody else in the lead. Sure, it would buy the wait eight days until the NFL kicks off just say it's after hours here on CBS sports radio.

What was the reaction of young Trey Lance to garrotte below sticking around for a relationship like building.

Very grateful how Jimmy will monitor and will very strongly to people. Trey will Jimmy will purge all trade with you before we sell C is great intrigue around the Niners again they made to the NFC championship last year and of course they have those aspirations have got a talented roster.

They got some of their roster question settles that spend some money this off-season, Devo, Samuel E's unique needs a weapon. Yes, so is Trey Lantz. But if it doesn't start out quite the way they expected in a division that is half do you consider making a change. And even if you don't consider it one of the chances.

The median never brings it up.

Hey you got this other guy who actually played in the Super Bowl for you who actually has helped to guide you to couple of minutes he championship any chance you might use him instead.

I even think about how he could be so mad about the court about questions if they start out slow all right on Twitter is also can keep surviving press conferences never on Twitter a lot radio and I couldn't take it easy on you coach also on our Facebook page. Our YouTube channel named after the show. Super easy to find.

We are so happy that you're with us on this Wednesday morning. I don't think I'm to the point where I'm delirious tired yet. Am I making any sense pretty today sounds sure seemed a little hesitant there are no dots are allowed don't need to be disingenuous in that the general was grin on his face like I got a cell. This everything is fantastic A-OK as though you thumbs up. I do not like and feels very condescending or dismissive when you give me a thumbs up. It's not meant to be. When was the last time you actually use that outside of the radio studio, don't know them for want of going through so it's a way I could just find a smile works fine thumbs up baby I tell you next to K so your you don't do that in thing next to people sending you a text message that the way that it's annoying and and rude, and I think it's done on purpose. The thumbs up or okay. A Moji is just as bad a guide, someone sent me recently a thumbs up response to a to attacks and Mike no context, no words are muted respond hours just a thumbs up. It's annoying is what it is I think I think it's meant to be it's meant to be that way. Snarky, it is very snippy and it is okay Moji it's like implying that I don't do it, but I'm not happy about it or I don't like what you said but I'm to pretend like I did. Everyone knows long. That's definitely meant that others, something underline when you when you son so you know what I did when I got it I deleted the entire text change was like see how you like done texting with you and that's all you got to say not even have a great day. Sleep well. Just okay Moji it's not okay to send it. Okay Moji, and up another big homerun for the leader in major league baseball and another leader in major league baseball hits the IL plus tracking how many wins the Dodgers have now my gosh there obscene. It's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio you are listening to the after-hours podcast once you use these after-hours with Lawrence on the home show anything you can grab it on the podcast after hours Amy Lawrence.com trip around the bases. If you well course of the approvals it takes a little longer. Trey Turner will use zip around the bases the Dodgers the mats they were squaring up at Citi Field.

They had rain.

Meanwhile, the Yankees were on the West Coast in Anaheim where they ended their three-game losing skid and Aaron judge wields the big that another crack homerun 51 on the season and then you hear him after that he did have three heads and three RBI, though he laments the strikeout that he had to open up the game for the Yankees. They were able to survive despite having to really go deep in the bullpen because there started Jamison Taiyo was hit by a comebacker and left the game after 2+ innings 70 a few times were taken off and stuff so I know this one wasn't something someone like, but it's always scary too much hundred. He took the small of his back. Silly is follow-through from throwing the pitch had them turned backwards toward the play and the bald Kennebec bounced off his back and can member exactly what part of his back and then kinda bounded away toward first base, but definitely was out and is the danger of that position being right there Yankees so but maintain that lead atop the AL East for now were in a holding pattern, even as we head into the month of September.

You guys it's August 31. Seriously, it's legit. August 31, for every single time zone of the United States right now I'm delivering you the okay Moji oh hey, I'm not. I'm glad for the fall because I'm done with the summer it was. It's been a it's been a summer in many ways and I'm ready for it to be over the long game. It's been a long freaking sure. Alright, so mats and Dodgers to division leaders.

The two best records in the National League they were going head-to-head at Citi Field on Tuesday.

One cannot drill set (on the same Center for sugar-free Dodgers waited for her through hole, but it's regrettable awfully global really picks up on the other hand is pumped up his first career say Dodgers what while three final score to win their 90th game of the year 52 games over 500 Dodgers first major league baseball to get to 91 incredible game to be a part of super thankful back to LA and have trust to be given the ball on that opportunity just means a lot, you know, so just, crazy full circle. Thinking back here in New York, but does not think will be part of this is €1.01 of the great moments for me personally. I just had a chance to spend some time with Jake and he was really emotional and said that it was more emotional than his major recall of just you know for him to build a taxi for same like a week but to be ready when called upon officer bullpen was in the thick of it.

So to build rely on him and he was going to finish a game, however, that meant it was just good the way it worked out just so helpful at the voice of Dave Robert speaking about his new closer, but the closer situation save situation.

Jake read a former mats comes in and gets the save and and Dave Roberts is thrilled for him and your take on sports that LA, the fact that he's back in New York in and told his manager now that this was more emotional for him than his call up if you haven't seen the end of this game. I encourage you to do it J actually described as Jake read celebrated like that won the World Series, but you can imagine the years and years me. He's not a young guy with the almost 30, I think, and so the fact that he was caught by the team that he just earned his first career save against all of that makes it a very emotional moment of the atmosphere at Citi Field just started pouring 2/grieving on a classic old shed and it was alower bases, autos, mental first or second, I believe, so that a chance to tie the game. We walk off.

So the crows are marinated World Series so we wanted that one. Good for you Jake read little bit of vindication little bit all to your former team or you to send the K in text that group text as we would not the F not the middle finger.

I mean no decay is more effective.

This was into Baker Mayfield is just group text to all the mats also were teammates K thumbs up a Moji anyway. Dodgers are obscene there now at 90 wins. There are others who are in it 880+ wins and that does include the New York Mets and so it's it said to horse race right now you could call it even a race between Dr. Samet for best record with those of the top two teams in the National League so critical to have them spacing off two more games, Clayton Kershaw will return to the rotation coming up on Thursday there bumping Dustin may and Clayton will return from the IL against the Mets at Citi Field. I will not be in town, but if I was I would do absolutely anything to be at that game that that's got to be amazing. I'm a huge Clayton Kershaw fan right before we wrap up here and get to the update. I just want to mention Justin Vernon Lander, who's sitting on 16 wins tied for most of the majors is also hitting the IL/DL/IRI treatment with a call anymore, but best case scenario forever.

Lander's injuries. This was about as good as specifically because I know I did feel so usually that is attributed with some some muscle damage so and so. All in all, this is noticed how he and Max are reserve former teammates go so in depth when it comes their injuries so in-depth it's amazing how much detail they provide just the thing for the two of them are former Tiger thing are coming up.

It was an interesting day for one Cynthia Freeland of NFL network. After she relayed comment that Baker Mayfield made to her about week one it Panthers versus the Browns turn into a big brouhaha so we asked her what happens and then a little bit of QB news attack on as we had to the top of the hour ready break you are listening to the after-hours podcast a lot.a goal of the giant to have you back left side electronic flyers and so why don't I got it for use these after-hours Lawrence on Brown's radio Brown's radio network used to be Baker Mayfield Natalie Baker Mayfield for the Panthers and we can number one way that can be so good and considering what we he heard from Cynthia Freeland's about Baker's attitude toward week number one. What if you become even more interesting now it's after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio were bringing back a couple of questions here with Cynthia because she's always fantastic queen of data science for NFL network and the second question is about Baker but before we get to that. Why do we J play the snippet that guy so much attention so Cynthia went on a podcast and she talked about an exchange that she'd had with Baker in Charlotte. I walked a bit like I'm so excited to see you like kick some butt especially week one I like. Cannot wait any use of expletives and I was like I just hope you like racing I'm get up them up them up as that was quote was all right so that Cynthia Freeland, the host, it was around the NFL podcast and that made the rounds in Cleveland and as you can imagine lots of reaction you're going to hear her explain because I asked her what happens with Baker, but first I want you to hear this because this is really interesting to have your getting ready for your fantasy football draft. J.

11 of the one of the new formula she's developed especially charts how many wins a player is worth now. This is only on the opposite side of the ball is. For now though she says it does apply to defensive players, but I asked her to kind of explain how this formula that she developed can know can rank NFL players based on the number of wins that they will mean for your team.

Yeah, I framed everything in probability of earning a first outer touchdown without keeping the ball in your possession and then ultimately led that you how darkly that not to win or not wins. Write the lock right so when you look at how each note team then provided the ball then position group, then individual player how it sort of break down there contributing to the bottom line the land or the lock.

You can actually pinpoint how each player relative to each other in their same condition is doing the wheat I do in terms of live when fear is that it ends up being a metric of game but it's not a perfect science because if you say like Roger you were thick with Rev. anything like you Patrick for 6.1 went it. It's not like you out of the game can be fractional don't have Ariel get back, there's always different. There's always some different between a look at you know that the value of Aaron versus the value of Patrick this year and look at the difference between ethics one in effect, there are a few non-quarterbacks that were near the top of of this list or near the top when you worked out all the science the first year usually get catching running back will almost almost always have one of the highest wind here mostly because there on the field for so much volume so that directly how the first time ever top five.

I have a tight end Travis healthy. He broke into the top five in terms of windshear for fun and you look at his ready area production over the past years his butt though. The winter also takes into account how the player impacts the game when they're not the subject of a target that when Travis County on the field. It makes a better opportunity for the running back to have faith or for the wide receivers to have more you know more separation for things like that in Travis County has impact the readier the path that is just on that it was actually pretty cool that he busted out five usually at a parking running back in the wide receiver and then here with Baker. I mean it's really not that big of a deal but I was up at the end of the game to build played it Panthers elected to Baker. I offered him good luck.

I I truly want to see Baker go out lighted up first overall pick. You got a lot of firepower. He's a good quarterback we see very good production from him. It's not like you know something crazy and I enjoy I have covered him before he came out into the league so you I remember leg doing a lot of analytic because remember back then he was." Very short.

Meanwhile, you have much shorter quarterback great with camping overall for the ridiculous stuff right now I want you to prove everyone wrong like I go to him after the game and just the same as that would help any of my girlfriends who are you going to a wedding and how to interact that basically would like to give them the revenge body.

You know, the cuter date show what they're missing out on.

At the end of the day. Like I said we were having a conversation about that and I was supporting Baker and Neely agreed with me because let the what what this book is an obituary that you know what, I don't really want to be anyone this year, let alone the you know like you know but it took on a bit of a lack of it down and okay because look, I don't. I know my intention and you know there was we were on a field.

It was not a yellow that was on a text message exchange with no whatever then that regard, figure on it.

We were on a field after a game and I was offering before and I was, I think there's a lot of people who take the time to say mean things about Baker. I was taking the time to say, supportive things about Baker and you III. I got a little little little little out of context but you know whatever it is kind of like it. People stop and back respect and I like 08 former player wants to beat the team that didn't give them a long-term contract. Is there any like it because it is a little filly is silly. Most people would say that they agree with you. They want to see Baker do well in week number one against our team because of the way it played out because of who they replaced it with. I think people are being honest. So yes little bit silly. Just out of curiosity, did you hear anything from him. After all, this uproar, I heard that not Baker directly unite a I think that at the end of the day that the people with the best egos meeting but want to or can actually win. I didn't hear anything from them and they know was going on because good people are focused on football like I she says that the good versus the bad like the light side versus the Darkside. The good are focused on winning football games.

I said this to Cindy I said earlier, I'll say it again.

I'm pretty confident that outside of Cleveland. I understand now that a Cleveland you don't feel this way, nor should you.

Maybe there are a few browns fans who would like to see Baker Mayfield exact a little bit of revenge in week number one, but I think I speak for many football fans when I say I'm pretty sure a lot of us would like to see him throw for 300+ yards and three or four touchdowns in a victory over the Browns. Maybe that's the only loss to Brad Sabol year. Maybe there's always a possibility but there is this element to it that a lot of fans will want him to get low vindication to sky hay fever Jemison I like L Cynthia points out that that's what she would say to one of her girlfriends show up with a cure date.

Let them know what is missing its after hours with Amy Lawrence on CBS sports radio.

By the way DeShawn Watson is now officially serving his suspension with the Cleveland Browns so he left the training facility on Tuesday and that is the start of what is an 11 game suspension, though he cannot return to the facility or have contact with the team until mid-October cannot practice again until November 14. As for Baker Mayfield.

He no longer has them Donald or Matt corral who will back him up in Carolina East going to stay healthy. We know he'll play heard but now it's PJ Walker, who is been elevated quickly to QB to frequent moves us over the process of trying to Know is always be ready with that approach is especially been about about the rules you have to just be ready about what you know and also those of the registered yet so that's one of those situations where you're just hoping if it Panthers that Baker stays healthy all the way through. Think about that Prescott right now the only quarterback on the Dallas Cowboys roster and Pete Prisco and CBSSports HQ points out well technically want is all you want to play your backup quarterback for more than one or two games usually are. Steve is dead anyways and that we case for the Dallas Cowboys. Whether it's will Greer Cooper rush or Brady Quinn comes out of retirement, it doesn't matter if that Prescott is employed. Your season is over. CBSSports HQ and NFL analysts Pete Prisco hello Vic, the Cowboys are likely to bring someone back, but had to make some space and had to make roster cuts as many teams were making tough decisions on Monday and Tuesday certainly didn't turn out to be the decision that we thought for Kyle Shanahan and the separate Cisco 49ers into bigger below but there is some resolution to that quarterback question. What about the quarterback question in Pittsburgh laid out hey coach Tom Lynn. Are you ready to name that starting QB is the best we can.

You wax poetic I like it better when he goes on a little bit.

This is from Monday but you guys my cohabit today to give you guys the other week I would not commit knee-jerk reactions of statements following the performance will go to our proper professional procedure will often office people will have discussions all will talk internally. Will talk external possibilities will go through our normal procedure. This time of year that will disclose it to you at our leisure. To be quite honest with leisure. Love that professional manner leisure. I love what Brian McFadden told me about Mike, that this is just he's funny, he's a funny dude but that he speaks like no one else in the NFL and end of course he commands respect 15 years. No losing records. This is the first time, though without Ben Ramos Berger as his starting quarterback all three move their units. We that's just waiting to know you don't enjoy the else about the quarterbacks in Pittsburgh right now units all three move their units, which means that all three are viable options with what he told us earlier in the preseason all right peeps I was happily delirious for the show. If I said something that made no sense.

Just nod and smile or send me a thumbs up emoji will be final.

Totally get it. I am out until next Tuesday night so I'm taking my summer vacation leads.

I promise that I will return no and that will be close to the start of football. The talk to that is after hours on CBS sports radio