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Pats Fans Questioning Bill Belichick? (Hour 2)

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Pats Fans Questioning Bill Belichick? (Hour 2)

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September 23, 2022 8:03 pm

Are Patriots fans starting to question Bill Belichick? l Aaron Rodgers makes his case to be the GOAT l News Brief

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We'll chat some Steelers they lose last night. Time to go to Kenny Pickett in my opinion.

And yet, the Cleveland Browns now sitting at 211. Can they weather the storm until DeShawn Watson does return after his 11 game suspension and a lot of other news and notes around the NFL Tom Brady going up against our garage this weekend in Tampa to a tongue by Lola hosting the Buffalo Bills this weekend is Josh Allen's rolled into town and you can't stop it right now he is to know the New England Patriots target a hose.

The Baltimore Ravens and I'm honest with you, Nikki, last week you told me your team is gonna lose and I didn't actually believe you when you set it and you ended up being right first time for everything. I think by patriots in a rough spot on Sunday really rough spot on Sunday and I am not feeling good about this game not encouraged, or at least given hope that maybe Lamar Jackson is not 100%. Now that's a bunch of baloney that I saw he was wearing with the sleeve.

The sleeve on the elbow.

Then they said he was okay and he was fine. Lamar Jackson's good run right through this patriots defense and this is the problem I have in the NFL you have speed or you don't. We know the ravens have speed at the quarterback position. I think Mac Jones can be a good quarterback, but what options does he have that goal cut through your defense. I know the ravens are banged up after last week's game but you don't have burners on the defense. On the off inside the ball for the patriots and that's a problem setting their young quarterback up for success like this you will know if Jane Herz could be the guy because they got a major Brown about the Smith you have Dallas guarded the Miami Dolphins will know to is the Garnet after this year because you draft a jail model year ago.

You have Tyree tell right now the patriots have wide receiver is a solidly done number one. The park is show me something to think the Nelson I got all the sudden are consistent to catch a football snow weapons. That's remarkable. They were 10 and seven last year and made the postseason. Because this roster is not drastically different than what it was a year ago.

Now here's what to do if going for them that good offensive line, so Matt will have some time but I just don't see how there to be able to outscore Lamar Jackson. The Baltimore Ravens are also the ravens are coming off a devastating defeat when they put up points and then the defense topline football and Miami Dolphins outs 122 through the fourth quarters of a pitstop ravens team coming to the Foxborough and home-field advantage isn't what it once was for the new and the pictures. They've lost games at home ever since Tom Brady is left I is a rough spot for my boys this weekend, but the only saving grace I have and this is that you know I don't think they're going to win the game because I said this to you last week is everyone's picking the ravens don't ever inspect the ravens ever thought up the ravens financially as well. Maybe Belichick pulls a rabbit out of the hat but I'm not expecting that this weekend. Here's one thing that could go in your favor. What's the weather like you to give me some optimism. Yes, was the last year two years ago near them monsoon at all and it started raining in the fourth quarter and Stella check was God conveniently when Lamar just need to know the ball to lose all the seaside in this Mongols. Soon a hurricane started coming down. That is how mine bleeped the rest of the National Football League was for 20 years by the patriots that they actually thought that Bill Belichick could control the weather Sunday. I don't see any rain in the then you're screwed. Another monsoon essay that favors you and what have you help slow down Lamar. Maybe you know lessons on the super levels, but nice sunny day dry surface very tough so you know me, I told you there would not be one moment this year. What I would advocate for the patriots to make a coaching change. You know me ice. I ridicule people that have said this, I'm not going there yet. You dope house to level where you were you you prefaced it with that. So were we going what we used to make fun of that kid that use the worker Tyler Moore yellow yes it's a patriots fan and last year he was advocating when they made the plaster Bill Belichick to get fired early on the ceiling even 2021 are fired at one point to.

I love Tyler put us all say this nicely. He's an idiot. My cousin who is as loyal the patriots and as they come, and never predicts them to lose. I talked to him this week.

He said there lose. I've never heard my cousin said that it was a football game. He always has a good awareness can be like 45 to nothing. I talked to my college roommate, who was also a patriots that he's not happy with Belichick either so helpful in my circle wow my college roommate and my cousin that's blood are starting to doubt Bill Belichick and are not happy with the hoodie losing face.

I'm not saying that you should be happy but also at the point yet in my life.

After what we just saw the last 20 years of getting ready to say yeah let's call Ron Bill Belichick out of town by they miss the playoffs this year.

Next year is a big year because while Robert Kraft is not happy.

He's not supposedly be told that Patricia and Bill, you better go play country born after week one. He said it's been some tough times that won a playoff game in several years. I don't think Bill will ever get fired nor should he and always be even when they're bad though never be like awful.

Also, when 78 games this year, but if they get embarrassed this week.

I just wonder what the tone of the fan bases because I'm not let me be clear and I don't want people say goals giving up a Belichick is not going trust available. Belichick is putting I just don't think they can win this week and I don't think that team is this good this year so I flirtation for low heading into the season.

I thought to be an eight when team or so I went team but when my cousin and my roommate from college start to tell me that they're concerned about Bill. I think that little bit spoiled don't get me wrong, but it's a little bit eye-opening that my college roommate. He's nuts he like even when they were good. He was like criticizing so him gets kind of thrown in the trash. My cousin is predicted to win every game the last 20 years my life by 45 points. That's the one that concerns me. You know, I'm actually surprised I did not think I would hear this talk from you this early. I'm not saying you're giving up. I'm just but you're just saying. Have you this using goes awry. Maybe next year's a big year for billets like senior week three words I value to maintaining that year.

I think it's people in the base. I don't know, but people inside the organization, but people in the fan base. Those are.

It's only two people, but those are people's opinions.

I sort trust. Do you think with the principal.

Let's just say lay this out for me. 45.

Seven. The ravens went on Sunday. Pfizer check. Any chance we get a fire Bill chance and all I don't care if they lose the next 10 games by 100 points you cannot chant fire Belichick what he's done last 20 years. I would agree. I was at sonic bills. Maybe start to lose the base and I wonder if you have another bad offense of performance and Lamar Jackson is run all of this defense in one way, I will say you know made the patriots.

I hate Peter Tran hate that the entire team organization pull them along. I have audio in the system that I could find of you chanting let's go Pats let's go Pats let's vary out of context, but yes, like did you not say those words I said those words in succession very icon and you also there's a video of you saying that Tom Brady did not.

The faithful also which I find is outside.

I hate to fight it so that's that's okay. I've driving is hosting stupid reside with that said, with my hatred for the patriots organization fence.

I respect in a way that it's just like you not complacent. I respect the fans. I like frustrated with Bill, that is just not like everyone for 20 years is okay. There is a part is I get what if you chant fire Bill I think your crazy and your stupid right now you know it's cold for a place where I will respect me. He wants us to win every single year you don't respect me is with the. As I disrespected him to say like I people right now they're chatting. If there's a fire Belichick week three it's lunacy. What I'm saying from where it's coming from for how stupid it is theirs are in a weird way can respect like your holding this this team to a high standard, and if you're not there does matter who it is. Things got a change so two things I in 2020 was never mad watching last year they made the playoffs.

I was not mad watching the team. I wonder when I start to get mad because my body doesn't let me get mad because I been so fortunate. The last 20 years. Now I don't want to be the guy though that is in 10 years from now not getting mad and is just resting on the past history like Cowboys fans.

To this day of all, we were a dynasty and we have the one Jackson's 1995 Steelers fans started to become that way a little bit to the great Pittsburgh Steelers.

They have been great. Really the last 10 years it's been a while since I want to Super Bowl and I don't know when the Steelers are to turn around. I don't know when the count was her turn around so yes you take the winning when you get it and my team is one more than anyone's team will ever win in their lifetime. Some appreciative that to the fullest, but I just wonder when I start to get mad with the state because I am the first remakes and I would've a low expect the first two weeks and I would in low expectations this year. I haven't gotten mad yet and that's what I wonder when I feel all the other pay that older football fans and felt through my teams run dominance.

I know you play the small violin. I delegate all the time I was live in the penthouse for 20 years after the downgrade to like the outhouse for a little bit.

I can handle that but I just wonder when I start to really freak out because one thing I give Mraz credit branch team has won two super Bowls in his lifetime has been to three in his lifetime right was public. Mraz doesn't remember the Super Bowl that they against the bills is nowhere I know now. Yeah, yeah, I was 92, 191 was by 30 point want to know they want to Super Bowl with Parcells spotlight 2000.

Remember, so it's yeah that's the first so I give Mraz credit because he wanted 07 and 91 in 2011, 2012, and I know that the Giants lost bikers worsen legal like he's not resting on those two championships were active in some respectfully each and every game, it's like all or nothing for that guy. So I just wonder when I get to that crazy level fandom in terms of like when I get really mad when they lose the last 20 years I've had a lot of opportunities to get really bad I didn't just don't ever use the Super Bowl soft, it's awful you want to honor current batches basically jump out of the car after one of the simple trips I was driving back on from Indianapolis and subliminal by just wonder what I really suck at Madigan as a last years I have been mad these II thought that that would be like selfish and it would be spoiled if I was to get mad. After two down years and one year they made the playoffs's Bureau must be nice was nice welcome on our certain there's reasonable to me last week.

Yeah, that's what my back on a hunger one another. One another, and another one so you telling me Jason Kelsey wants and hungry hungry dogs run faster drive to now become a hungry dog again and start running faster and start getting annoyed with my football team in such a saying jackass three things when it comes to Bill Belichick company will feel believe and know will be no turning associate fails to point out the same thing say things you know I'm not. I'm not a man of fake outrage, a for coverage so you telling you been evening for a while.

So if you're not hungry no reason run I want when I want to see them too well, but I just with how fortunate I was last 20 years is just tough to get mad when you have a year you missed the playoffs and were still like serviceable seven wins knowledge were great, but you're in those games, and a flash of attendance have made the playoffs like to be good this year so maybe that's also why I'm not like furious, but the offense has been rough to watch the first two weeks and you just see how even though I like the quarterback but you just see that they need a lot of work in the other positions which eight which I just don't have right now that the speed labs read article during the break. Did you see return down to the Super Bowl halftime show this year turned it down.

Yes this person is interested in doing future halftime shows but right now because of work, commitment, she cannot to the Super Bowl this year. She so dedicated something else Renna was so stellar structures rumored service you going to turn it down. That would be correct while Taylor Swift's likely future roles halftime show. Not this so in this TMZ article sauces tell TMZ they're still looking for another female popstar first person that came to mind and maybe just because I just watched her on carpal karaoke with James Gordon wouldn't listen to a great halftime show.

Truth hurts.

It banger I can't name one little song I've heard her music is just the way that my brain works when I don't love it.

Artists in terms of their not a map of music or something like that. But Liz has a lot of she has a lot of bankers switching to carpal karaoke.

It's only 15 minutes.

Like almost yeah that's that's all that she sings it's like your your rocket out the amount he puts on a show to she does.

She does now. She may not be able to address the way that she would like to basically not wearing any close enough to actually get dressed for the simple halftime show will mean Shakira jailer weren't shy. That is true. So you know what they lose or go Bailey showed up with close on and then when the body started to moving, you start to realize that those skirts were rather short and I did have a problem with that whatsoever. I thought all these people that were like children were watching like, give me a break with that bicycle is overdue great job as a summit is not done, the halftime show that you would like to see to the simple halftime job ticket yes okay Schiller's. They will put on a tremendous show and they have tons of songs. Everyone knows okay Mr. Brightside would be great. My question is you only get 15 minutes that without this he have to be the last song that would have to be the ending of this, the killers, what else are they really giving you another song I really like by the killers spaceman was a really good song on the man which is a great one is your most recent one way sewers of things we've done places we've gone and the killers could the killers.

I don't this way. I like the killers a lot. I don't think he gets a reaction of like wow wow wow this is the greatest thing ever, but they would put on a good show I put on the name would not topping they put on a really good show that people are going well. Was great. I got a few I know that they that's easy. Before he turned him down but if you get Jay-Z. I think people go back to the wall until Jay-Z says yes I would ask Jay-Z.

I don't think John Mudgett is ever that halftime show John Mudgett I think would be phenomenal you want John Mudgett will slow residual slow yet, but he's a performer like that's a guy that could play to the crowd he could he could play to the event that you probably need some else paired them. I don't have a 45. Ask anyway so that's moot. But Ed Shearin would be great and then Bon Jovi house Bon Jovi never done halftime show that is surprising Billy Joel is never done. Halftime show were both from New York's Billy Joe Moore idolize also the mayor then national.

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I don't know Billy Joel alleging now you know what can we base it off twitter followers. In how many Twitter followers look through this. What Bruce Springsteen is a nationally yes there's not even though he's from New Jersey. This the swamps of Jersey. He is a national name.

How many Twitter followers you think Bruce Springsteen has LSA 1.4 mill 1.3 million while could guess you may be right on this happy Twitter followers you think Billy Joel S. To say maybe or am I guess let's all say 850,300 21,000 now to be fair, we just mentioned Liz though how many Twitter followers of England's allies I would say try Lusk. She is mornings her grandma would say tick-tock I would say probably 350 you're on 2 million, while holy cow twitter really yeah now you wanted the killers.

Yes, I would imagine their band has a wow how many Twitter followers. The ice basil gave away how many Twitter followers in the killers every million 4.7 million their popular let's go way I stay I double down my statement should back down before their pipe or they found a great show.

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Okay I'm proposing Bon Jovi us national name 1.5 2.9 million now. I suggested Ed Shearin as well that sure none of the 20s got have a Twitter. Now I could but Gallegos's mother's name wrong. It's what he is super popular play 7.3 17.5 million Twitter followers hazard and 17.5 million people in this earth one a hold on.

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That's a boss move my bed. 17 a half-million that's a good ratio that is anyone else to be missed that. I recommend that all will JC Mendoza, a nationally Jay-Z had not got Ellen that he's pretty well known. I do wonder how many Twitter followers though Mr. Carter has company think Mr. Carter's 21 mill 3.1 while I think killers more twitter stuff like Liz oh Ed Shearin there reaching their apex like now, but this is like right at the height of their run like their popularity so social media is newer and they're getting all these followers now now twitter and Instagram is obscene were used by younger people now than Twitter is what you see like some of these other guys that are older, they are big followings.

We know that and were talking like millions of Twitter falls hundreds of thousands twitter followers. But if they were like peeking now like Bruce Springsteen was debut like six years ago. I think you have like 60 million Twitter followers. If you get it on sale had not though 2.1.

That which is currently talked about this. I guess like the modern-day Drake as if they were the modern-day Drake probably you know he probably has over 20 miles. I would assume so.

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That makes you the best player window rate lower than most indigenous of the Russell Sage the go right Michael Jordan something will somehow think Lebron for man's Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant 02 best players I've ever seen Odyssey that was, when I fell in love and basketball in the late 80s early 90s there was Super Bowl championships and then there's talent and ability and I think when when that's the standard problem. Maybe it's because I've heard this conversation for 20 years has so many people try to take away from Tom Brady and now this is the point where if you have a brain you just can't take away from the guy, but I hate when people try to say all this player to be the most talented quarterback that we've ever seen Rogers he does things on the football field.

I'm not ignoring that that I've never seen from some quarterbacks, but what does that mean if you can't put that together to go when multiple championships. I'm not telling you, Arun Rogers is in the top 10 quarterback of all time. He is but he can't be on my top five list. Now, it's not all about winning championships by any Z's 11 for so many years, though I feel like people make excuses.

Rogers was a great quarterback at all time great quarterback. We all know that and back championship game up again Seattle that wasn't his fault, but there's been moments where yes you could just blame it on the defense. You could blame it on the coach and there's been games or his teams have just been noncompetitive, but the last two will sorry about that, as we just had some random sound effect for my phone in the Odyssey I play but anyway as we get into. As we get into regular series for about Rogers and Savoy… Above all, be able to recover but anyway the point I'm making here is the last two plants around Rogers. It's on him the game up again San Francisco. You could tell me about the special-teams. You can't tell me about the defense defense white wall that came he had almonds are wide open and he went to the Montanans.

He was the quarterback of the team that a touch, and I think the first drive the game and they get all the rest again ended up against Tampa Bay Buccaneers you had three interceptions by Tom Brady in the second half and everyone what highlights what.

I'm glad Donovan McNabb said the just and the show. Everyone highlights the Lafleur decision to kick the field goal down eight and get the ball back somebody dumb decision but that's why the last game and lost the game because our rods got the ball back to times down five and they went three out of three now they lost the game because Arun Rogers didn't run a few plays before the decision to go kick the field goal they stalled in the red zone.

One other time early on in that game, so Rogers will know was a top 10 quarterback but to me he's not in the goat conversation because he's had a lot of opportunities to go wait another he's been close and he hasn't done it yet. So Rogers does not win another championship brine. Give me a word in the way that you would describe Rogers career.

We all know it is a great career. It's all been great at top 10 quarterback but how would you describe his career if he does not find a way to one another championship disappointing and it sounds nuts because the guy were talking about being a top 10 quarterback and you sail a top 10 quarterback disappointing like what.

But if he doesn't win another championship. I would be disappointed because he's playing in the regular season the top of his game. The last two years you went back to back up the pace and is the number one overall seed and had a home in NC title game going back two years ago and last year was that whole. They were 13, 113, 113, when the last three years blowout. Nancy titled him again. San Francisco, bolting the job fine the next year Brady tried to get back to the game and then last year you got greedy going to have Lena take the easy throats are wide open down will start so I just don't like when Roger says oh there's talented and there's winning that's to me what makes Brady the most impressive quarterback.

I'll ever see people say doesn't have the strongest army isn't the most accurate. He's not the ideal body and Brady now has shown you for 20 years. It doesn't matter what you tell me can't do we find a way to get it done and Brady now 16 super Bowls in the New England and Foxboro and one in Tampa. So for all those idiots. For all those years. That's it. Quarterback Bella check will go quickly.

People now are just ready to run Bill Belichick out of town. That's always the part of the conversation.

I can't stand right it's available all this guys the most talented quarterback ever seen. What is it tell me you don't put together and translated twins. That's all use the word your disappointment comes out Rogers's career because he is exceedingly talented.

He makes the rows with ease and no one else can make. He puts the ball in spots. That's impossible for anyone to defend them when it comes to the big moment. It's a throw. It's a read that it doesn't make and the team falls up, you'll fall short more times and they should be clear just as you and the most super Bowls is not me the greatest quarterback of all time.

Like I don't think anyone's advocating for treatment or for Terry Bradshaw to be a top-five quarterback of all time. But you see the numbers of Brady using number one in everything and then he's number one in rings, so if you want to say that Arun's more athletic and Arun has better skills than Tom Brady.

That's fine. But what is it me, if you win a Super Bowl in your career, then for five other times get good shots and it came up empty that I think a lot of families like you were doing a show in Cleveland everything that will just take one produced on the turtle will just take one but I gotta compare them to the other all-time greats that our rods going up against record. I don't think that away from the top 10 quarterback of all time, but it would feel like yeah I would want a little bit more if he walks away two years from now. It only has one ring attached to his name is Zach yelp show on CBS sports radio become a back lot that you on some of the biggest stories of the day was the body of the college that with the news brief, looking for stories about the black community, and you don't want to wait until out.

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That is what makes AutoZone America's number one battery destination get in the zone AutoZone listen up to Mike Tomlin on the piece thinking about making a quarterback change. After three weeks of the info season which is doing is taping within the totality of anything we collectively get better so as to that question definitively know now we'll see if that's good to be the actual answer though 10 days from now when you go up against the Jets. I think it's time to go to Kenny Pickett, Mike Talbot evaluates Mitch Grabowski.

I mean to risky's performance racing plays member we all collectively came up short and so you notice how we measure performance men women is our business. We didn't handle business so we don't know, but that a parking look and feel good, as if Mitch was horrible last night because the upside anymore to go to Mitch Grabowski. That's what I said for the start of the season. You know, upside is not to be this great quarterback's docket be able to hold off the fans enough from wanting to see Kenny Pickett. I don't know Kenny Pickett to be great, but it is time to go to because it's pointless to keep on trotting out Mitch Grabowski. At this rate talk about Grabowski. Let's hear from him. He says the offense can splinter after these early-season struggles we just missed those employees that we could head were so all expressions are half what to look at those who were better on the communication is crucial on the sidelines on these next few days.

They won't hear better at once to be very honest with themselves and I think everybody can be a lot better myself included, and will sup look at this written proof, but stick together. It's only going about if we stick together, communicate, talk about problems in is going to fix it so they can splinter from where they are like I just I get it. You're saying they can only get better, right. Ryan is pretty much what he saying that horrible first words why he's busy saying you can only go from here. Yeah there's out of his desperation. Yes, that is desperation at its finest, is week one. The offense was in the story Mickey Fitzpatrick at the pick six. Think of Fitzpatrick in the PAT block like the offense is great.

I can wait to. I think my teams offenses that collect Pittsburgh's offense P you ugly.

Next, you have some playmakers on that Ross and last night and really do much offensively and you know it's crazy into the final drive from Pittsburgh out. Michael said of the broadcast that up until that point, Pat Frey meet the target in the game and he actually catches what are you doing get back on the football. He's a solid. So is that on Mitch is that the playcalling is a mixture of both. Just the mess Is a fancy love. That was the bounce back after it was an ugly loss on Sunday.

This is a great team win and I'm really proud of those guys for fighting short week with all the things you with last Sunday for those guys come through for soldiers battle to this game, which is not easy, but then the fight for 60 minutes.

I thought it was really a team. When I think was offense different special teams all working together. I get in our society. We very quickly and easily, and often use the word great. I'm not called right when last night on the Cleveland Browns that now.

Yet the two and one you needed that when don't get me wrong was embarrassed they blew the game to the Jets. From now until Watson comes back yet to find a way to go get 56 wins total to weather the storm, but Ryan rate when a great wings like Joe, we just embarrass you. We 145 to nothing. Yes, they were the better team, but a great plan, coach hanging on for dear life. At the end know about. I never thought there would lose the game.

Well, I mean I guess I should say the sealers had a chance technically to win the game and the last laughter you're controlling the game for the entirety of the game.

It still came back to everyone for the ball. I get to think about the time I get… Well after the last we avoid*essay also game and it was one for thing and one or whatever her fourth and inches and they elected then punted what just go for that spot or like 30 seconds… You plan is less time that don't give a chance on the 22nd Stegall word was a benefit just offer you got the games over not too late for an overall you you allow losses like that you know that deep cut they were scoring a touchdown.

There is a moment just go for it matter anyway. Fred Stephen gets emotional and talked with female staffers. They got dragged into this entire situation with email joke in the Boston self. I saw you know we have a lot of talented women in our organization and yesterday was really hard on them and I think that you know nobody can control twitter speculation rampant, but I do think that we as organization have a responsibility to make sure were there to support them. Now, because a lot of people were dragged unfairly in the so I appreciate what Brad Stevens said about the women that were just being accused yesterday of what they sleeping with email joke when people try to figure out was good happen, but we just be transparent about this this on the Celtics.

The Celtics leak. This daydream was announced someone inside the organization. They could have been in front of this and made an announcement yesterday at a press conference yesterday and there's always give me some speculation on that night you to that but it would have limited how much speculation would've happened because when the report of that yesterday was consensual relationship with email joke and a female staff member ever like and you get suspended here for that now.

Afterwords late last night and the athletic. There was a report that he may made unwanted advances to the woman in the organization of its is one of those things where we said yes they will say I don't know what else more there is to say, when you heard yesterday what was being reported, and the limited information we knew something didn't add up. And you knew there had to be something more retrospect.

The owner Celtics on the team was alerted of this issue with email joke we learned over the summer. Some part of the summer situation called in the law firm at the point in the investigation had some twists and turns and took some time to develop all facts and so finally concluded for no we know was wrapped up two days ago from work one more time on how the players took the news of the suspension bread know you both met with the players breaking children more than that, but I would say in general they are very concerned about this.

Not a welcome development, but they also I felt have energy and focus and commitment and drive to really accomplish great things. Hopefully the season so that's the commitment I'm feeling from the players and not that based on last year.

Based on everything we know about them. I think that we will feel fulfilled from former NBA player now analyst Matt Barnes is on the show bunch of times. He originally supported email joke yesterday and then he explained why he deleted his post in support of you made to listen up last night's and after finding out the facts. I spoke with Miss hundred times uglier than any of us thought and that's why riskless things happen. I can't condone I cam back and it's not my place to tell you what happened, no, no, that was the reason why a risk my post last night after I post.

I got a call from someone so all these details that are to come out of someone just called up Matt Barnes and told him what happened then let's be real.

I think we've all put out a tweet before and then like you put in a teaching yeah wasn't great to put out but it still takes a lot to delete it. The information we try to justify, rationalize why your original tweet was right when you know was is wrong. The information that Matt got was clearly moving enough to him where he thinks that this things you get uglier and if that's the case, I said that yesterday when you read the state that the end of the show from the Celtics that they wouldn't even deftly commit to email returning after the suspension of the year why I would be pretty surprised at this point, a female Delco without even knowing what's going on but just by the tone and the feeling of this error. Not I kind of feel like email joke is never to coach him again for the Boston Celtic would you prove that I am with you when the Celtics say you know will determine his future later date doctors them. I'm sure try to figure out legalities of getting out of contract because it just as simple as he was sleeping with a female staff member. The organization there's a way to not make this public. It was consensual.

There's a way to not suspend the coach for your soup on the rug because the teams winning and you don't want to disrupt the applecart by when you hear your long suspension you go. It was only because he had consensual relationship with some of the organization you like that doesn't really add up. There's good to be a few more dominoes to fall, and depending on the severity of those dominoes that will dictate if he may love her coach again for the Celtics and just by the tone for Matt Barnes, the Celtics fairly saying anything makes me feel like email from looking for stories about the black community, and you don't want to wait until out. I don't know February, then check out Leon Black history month.

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