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This QB or That QB? (Hour 4)

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October 6, 2022 10:07 pm

This QB or That QB? (Hour 4)

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October 6, 2022 10:07 pm

This or That QB for Week 5 l Jim Kelly on Josh Allen's greatness l Closing Bell

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You thought that the Broncos came up against the 49ers was bad, Broncos, Colts game, socks, business killed show on CBS sports radio W live from the Roger Moore did studios will be looking to purchase a new home refinance yours. Rocket mortgage help you get there from one solution that delightful rock you can instantly nothing early on in the second quarter between the Broncos and the Colts that the Broncos right now are moving the football there at Indianapolis is 36 yard line right now Hickey you are on a scale 1 to 10, one being no-confidence then being truly confident get a confidence level. The six tonight and the Indianapolis Colts with what you seen through recorder and now two or three minutes with your confidence level at now from a scale of 1 to 10 is going to say to six, but I want to change the measurement here MSAs fields 6/10 that they'll get a first down.

In this is one for have you started drinking yet just wondering I'm not on the air, working or producing make an exception really okay you know what I saw yesterday.

There is a handle of vodka in the newsroom where I want desks you could crack open.

I would allow you to crack open a beer you want your thank you Jack you chugging vodka. Let's be real kink any worse than that producing spot them are already at maybe alcohol enhance you, maybe help the fleas of pain or of watching this nozzle to confuse with something yesterday so I got a tweet the preshow tweet that you put out I was off yesterday. What is this topic about knowing when when you were going to die yesterday that I saw an anti-grassroots William which by the way, I heard Al Gresh. I was told I had to listen to the way Gresh opened up the show yesterday. I love the way that Gresh opened up the show yesterday just taken shots left and right at Mraz. It was almost as if he was trying to get mentioned by the TV show the next day so I thought that was a job well done by Andy Gresh as his dad is 60 would include from 61 yards out.

So that's a good kick from one Brandon McManus taken with McManus as it is now six nothing Denver on top of the Indianapolis Colts.

But anyway, I saw tweet yesterday and it said would you want to know when you want to die. What the heck were you guys talking about yesterday. Gresh is forever story where Dana Weitz I guess went to some friend to show Dana White, friend of show to be joining us in studio. From what his camp told me when the US sees, back to New York next month in November will see that ends up happening, but they said we think will be able to get them in studio so I hope that happens, you can then ask Danielle yourself this question because apparently went to I want to call it biologist on every know what those are, right definition or title would be.

He saw some doctor they guess is very accurate in determining how much longer you will live and I guess the doctor based on health maybe habits everything on yes Dana White all and I guess he was given.

Let's say 10 years and four months to yes. I guess that scared him straight out know if there is no is eating better, getting into working out more. Whatever was but apparently this doctor is very accurate in his diagnosis protocol or predictions of one people will pass away. So why was the question then would you want to know when you want to die was then wordy by me. But Gresh is asking, would you want to know when you are going yeah I that's a good question actually. If I have now I'm only 28 so if I only have 10 more years left yet. No I do not want to know that by the time it got like 50 left and I would hope to live past 78 but then you could start actually you know what I think I would want to know.even though that answer would scare the crap out of me if it was only 10 more years and then you could try to do all these things and then you end up living for another 50 and the doctors just don't which I don't trust the doctor to begin with that just me, but I think I would have well want to know because then let's be real. If I was told only have 10 years to live as much as I love this job. More years doing this job.

I want this job to the chopper five more years and I want to go enjoy the final five years. My life would you stand on this by the way, right homes. I want to know that I had to make sure if I have three years left. Let's say I'm living my life the best I can, where you tell me you wouldn't stairs the producer. This act helps you if you live three more. You have a lot to do between now and whenever you know I leave this earth and I would make sure I fit it all in. So weather I get next three months or 300 years not to make this very morbid if you were told you three more years to live, getting married in the next three years. The tough question for you had a girlfriend of six years now four years, but to five years in a few weeks. Good question. I don't know all that answer, but you gotta say yes. I don't know you guys years to live. I don't think so, here are girlfriend like you like that, why but okay I free-spirited on the other way to get me out of this predicament. Your mentality why you would not want any commitments but if you been with someone for five years and you're trending in that direction. The ball is already in the red zone of you guys getting married while the girl you want to get married to some is dying three years out of love and one then Amanda died and shifted to startled assets over soldiers all save her own.

There is sadness and I say no I get out now.

Why cannot you know I also need extra money on like a spring on a ring that amino the need for three years and this can have it say that I multilaterally can only live for three more years I'll make sure I don't do whatever I can if I need extra 10 grand to go sit front run a Mets game. I'm going to use that to send binary view three years left.

That's what you want to sit front row in a Mets game will one day for for one of the days absolutely you normally travel the rest of the quote was of course a micro traveling for three years and I'm sure you say is sit front row in a Mets like you know two things I normally wouldn't do for him to spend a ton of money nominee that that extra cash that I would otherwise spend on a ring set. That's why would say no that answer. I don't know that I will have Michael Pittman pop up upon you extra cash very excited that out first down so I guided the Colts and I was competently going first down they got home wherein is the second quarter the second quarter. Get first I'm hearing you would have to put some pressure on Jim.

If you only have three more years with Jimerson to get this team back to a competent level. I do a lot of things that's for sure. In three years I'll be yelling at a lot of different people.

Here's part of the why wouldn't want to know. I'm conflicted. I would one know, but I wouldn't want to know who knows that this doctor has any actual accuracy with this get to play along in this hypothetical you have to assume he's pretty accurate. I love Dana White disdain would actually die within 10 years, no shot. You can ask.

That's more of a burden on him now that he thinks he may only is this Dr. Wright is it not right and he may only live for 10 more years when aggressor he wanted he would want to know. I don't see the downside of knowing downside is you have to worry leading up to your death. Whatever you if they see if five months to live, or five years to live, what you say and first year, second year, not up. Then you get that final year until it's all you get to do a lot of things but there's probably a lot of stretch of stress and Angela on if it's actually happening on Heathrow parade was. The doctor was wrong and the next day Pam for giving quick acceptance list when changing our eating habits, and so you much. I can outlive you and just let my life normally use. Also motivation right will kick in the behind. Gotta be like change habits Kenny Pickett were not the other dog looked past the dock rated top dog.

Don't you worry anyway, we got some quarterbacks for me this weekend.

Yes, a little of this quarterback or that quarterback to some bad matchups here, but some interesting quarterback matchups for sure.

Let's start. Let's start in New York. Note to jungle offices imitating Bridgewater take on Zach was making his second start of the year who try to have this game only Teddy or Zach. Zach more upside I and I know you said so for this game only. I just think there is more life to that arm of Zach Wilson and I think Zach Wilson even though he's not more accomplished in Teddy Bridgewater. At this stage of both their careers.

He's a better playmaker so I would take Zach Wilson over that bridge were just this week, Annie Dalton, I believe from lots of seated will start this regardless presumably the start of this week as the Saints take on the red-hot Seahawks drive to have Gino Smith for this game or Andy Dalton. I can't believe I'm going to say this, even if it is J Miss Winston, I'd rather have the guy that leads the league in completion percentage and through the first four games in the history of the NFL.

His highest completion sent a percentage in the history league for a guy starting his first four games of the year gets a minimum, 150 passes from ESPN stats and info. Did you see the exchange of Gino Smith with the reporter today.

I did tell a cocky did you have that on. We need to look at that. I was surprised it wasn't on the cut. She pointed out audio will quickly vent this is Gino Smith of the reporter is seen as a because you haven't watch and thrown how many opportunities last for years and really had for Gino Smith to watch him throw and start a few games last year but okay but not as if there's a lot of people Gino Smith recent tape on Gino Smith leading into this year. I like that though from Gina Gino's done a good job this year's excellent four games for restoring his images on a good job. He's definitely a lot of receipts. I guess he's ready to on the filament declare in terms of on the field matters by deciding he's a historian, whether they like God a lot of terrible pool that could be one of the worst, intercept the ball got deflected as one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen all the flatbed turn out the lights, the parties will very sorry large lady just ran into studio and started singing it's only six nothing but a large lady just coming to the studio and start second coming back that large lady just came into the studio 26 nothing back I just pick it down six nothing and she said that the game is over. This team stinks, but it was all beating themselves in all these game stop sock they come back and escape base sock same with me. The Colts sucked this year and you say can you say Nikki. They think you feel better about yourself right. No I don't. I feel better if they score a touchdown.

I feel better fact you had a competent drive or didn't wait to get down, no double-digit points also get you know, and I want to drive that she looks somewhat decent together. You do this yourself though because you actually thought that they were to win this game. Okay, it's six nothing. They saw the Broncos offense is literally doing know why would you tell yourself that they were to win this game. The Broncos thing to.

But why would you even think that you were to win this game is again.

That to me like a self up to the rejection. Everyone is on the Broncos to Frank Reich's credit and I don't like them letting he's done consistently every art in Indianapolis is any time.

This is a you know there's a lot of I do so the next theirs and I came back commanders bears that one could be better than this game that's going to be a rough watch anyway. Anytime there's always some thought of all this team is no chance that you just were there when meeting right the ball back noticed due to reply. Other doing a reply promoting their other platforms and they shall Colts highlight Amazon waters that there is Alex.

I mean, that was very confusing those on a 15 yard completion is to show the strain of complete like it wasn't as if the ball went €50 in the area. Some yak that did occur there. That is, that is probably the best play the game for either side not the best way to get with interception. I was also does it give me your football team stinks in the Broncos thing to lose this game] five.

They leave them on the I don't think so.

I think it's for Frank right you fired in season.

I think it's going to take two and 10 you actually know what you will could do a could do held on to this. If they get their doors blown off in Tennessee in two weeks Jim or say hates Italians more than I had the times. If they lose 31 three they lose 3410 that could be a game watch out where Frank does not make the trip.

You know he's got the fire before. If this continues to go, this one piece that where where win at and I'm saying it could happen within the next three weeks and that Tennessee game. You may be 100% right the first right thing you said about the titans of the cultural year. Here's what you don't have you looked ahead to who the opponent is the week after that game against Tennessee's know was a silly know it's it's the commanders which so if Matt Ryan plays poorly up against Carson once and once please go to that game Frank Reich to the say well that's my guy.

That's the guy I wanted to keep and Jim made me get rid Carson lines so it delays the firing for a few more weeks so they lose this game tonight to the Broncos lolled on the fat lady come in and again this is just not nice to Hickey. If you must, so they lose that game to the Broncos than I like the way that lady. We will need and they lose to the Jaguars and lose the Tennessee wanted to stretch these next three games, listening and embarrassed by Tennessee. You can't let Frank coach up against the commanders is can agree that I think it's I think the Tennessee game would be the one to circles I can happen this week. It's not can happen next week. Give me some more. These quarterback matchups.

Speaking of tennis all that's real misleading.

Carson was the Broncos just fumbled with the play was long dead. There is a flag and it was like the Colts are running down the sideline about to make it 66 is mother going to wonder his wife at the cultural and escape budget at least two Melvin Gordon fumbles there was one digit, but today a Matt Ryan fumble yes yes he was down in that Ryan Tannehill is taken on Carson once which court occurred after this week. Logan was is that the back of a legalist. Logan looks at these, then I think you might be for my practice run for the things okay. Tell her honey all you know what know you're not because Tannehill is the better quarterback. I don't like the spread. This spread is only Tennessee one and 1/2 point favorite. The commanders stink to you really going to figure out a new correspondence thought, I will soon include this guy just figured you're going to just even with Ryan telling Ryan Tannehill. He still was a better quarterback while he's more trustworthy patch nights get a feel of the commanders this week while for this week. Carl Garelick lost right now I sound loss right now. If they still care for that coach to think they do, they they got us a little bit of a fight.

This week I'm glad I did not succumb okay let's I got another quarterback battle is very interesting. 49ers Panthers who drowned this don't even ask Angie Baker Mayfield stinks right now Jimmy drive not, you know me, I do not love you baby in the segment that Jimmy Jean Carson once Baker Mayfield stinks right now he's getting chippy with the media when asking the design Enkidu to try to avoid getting the football batted down line of scrimmage.

Baker terrible this year awful putrid okay let's move on.

Let's go to big match appear in the NFC Cowboys ramps we saw Matthew Stafford struggled mightily get the 49ers on Monday. Football no Cooper rush undefeated as a starter skirt who drowned average this week only Cooper rush Matthew Stafford rush his point about football but as for the Stafford staffer coming off a bad performance. I'll take Matthew Stafford is the better player very similar style of players.

Jill hurts her calm her in jail and hurts. Here's a great one great quarter. Here's how I'll take you hearts.

They asked Kyla Murray to do so much that it's all on him. Not that jail and hurts is just simply a facilitator cannot be disrespectful. Jill hurts tremendous leader. That team really does believe in him, but I think jail and hurts is set up in a better position to succeed in column areas Sunday night football bangles.

Raven always this vessel, who would you rather have for this week. Specifically, Lamar Jackson or Job are more. I know it can contradict my Kyla Murray answer because Lamar is asked to do so much that bangles offense of line of scared and Lamar is at home. I'll give the Edsel more and finally raters chiefs there, all I do is why did is because you shock me is taking course rents override tennis. I figure I'll give you opportunity in the 1% chance that you are feeling frisky today. Take care, Derek R.

Hessel, pour over project molding Alaska line will now take our car yeah come on, Stella Stella Nextel disease on the raters absent Patrick Holmes second chose to guess what you're listening to this show so the other day I got an opportunity to chat with the Pro football Hall of Fame are legendary bills QB and Jim Kelly. I want to play back to things for you right here. This is Jim Kelly and why he believes that Josh Allen will become the best quarterback in the history of the bills French you know what in Buffalo for years.

They were saying please get us the next Jim Kelly get us the next Jim Kelly and those prayers were finally answered. What is it like for you to not only see the way that Josh Allen's career has really developed, but now has taken off to where he's one of the best quarterbacks, if not the best quarterback in the NFL so many years not only go to God not only good, but you could keep going the way go to bridge God Almighty career. Don't reply by March so.

But it's good to see your good.

The community leader everything that prayer tried would love to have everybody that you know that would love to have a guy like that in your community going wrong. Help foundation chair and all the new ponded and dry felt so good to see you and I will walk so you think you go down as the greatest quarterback and also serve me well Josh Allen you your opinion on. It's a pretty important one… Bottom line is you contribute what you know what you gone and been growing federal Moroccan doll without a dog will be a great Chevron. I hope it out and walked out. I lived here my mind. My two daughters are built, they would love to see all my records. Well, maybe help you shattered but not broken.

They probably will will but the thing that come with that winch all those pictures and reports you want to talk too much but the Lombardi trophy shot here yet, but the guilt trip I can get back to the game and try to get one and one walk and one that would be awesome so I'm excited about what I would look forward.but such an awesome feeling when you have your guy and you been a franchise that ever since that guy they just said that in Jim Kelly was no longer part of those organization you were looking for that next great quarterback and it took forever to find it. But now the only thing that could impact that guy being the guy or injuries and Josh Allen.

We all know is a wonderful magnificent quarterback like I hate to go to you on this because yes you had paid a man and you had interlock but your team is now in that mess of trying to find the next guy hey my team at Tom Brady New Orleans could play a small violin for me and you're trying to find that next guy now to be able to have that guy have one of your franchise legends say it if your bills fan. It's almost put you in a spot where you don't kinda deal with the success just because you've never won a championship. Yes you been to force ripples in a row. You lost all them.

We all know that. But to hear a positively people associated with the organization. People not what the organization out talking about your team it all off-season and even though they've lost that that that one game to Miami. It's still kind of it is felt that way all throughout that everyone is so high on the Buffalo Bills and it took the Kansas City Chiefs open this great team. The last five years to remind everyone this year. Hey were still pretty damn good for it. Really, to now be, two team race in the way that were looking at these two teams play each other in a in a few weeks where it's Buffalo Kansas City and everybody else in the AFC. I would love to know the feeling again. But, like you mentioned is just almost like there's so much weight taken off your shoulders when you have such a great core, likely Josh Allen is that solve so many problems where like you see it even if you have a hole or deficiency is a matter that he's in a razor and very few teams have it. It's and to have that now for another decade you think I would jot something so young and has been a great feeling for the bills and their few areas of weakness. On this team only two things that Jim Kelly talked about in the interview and ones in a negative way. The other was just an obvious statement is just hope they stay healthy and you Artie saw a right to the mic to hide injury which was a concern. There's no doubt about that and you look at the only feeling that really could derail this team is is really probably what three things Tom Brady media big spot to hold many in a big spot and then I would say injuries. Now Jim did bring up the run game and taking some things off Josh's plate and is not wrong. We talked about that and that's why Yvonne Brenda been kind of in a copycat league channel your inner less need and go after those pics I been on the phone right out of the raters enter the ready set a good game and they wanted that one in three people the Broncos a bronchus.

Thank you Bill Brock is been your call to also stink in the six nothing game so far, which is setting offense back about 2000 years. But if you are the bills you don't leave any stone unturned offense line tightened yet goodbye receivers quarterback number one defense added by Miller. The only thing that you look at we go okay that offense has a little bit of Mary weakness and maybe James Cook turns out the really solid demo Singletary only always goes on for five week stretch replace really well out of it that you, but I would call the raters and see if they'd be interested in parting ways with Josh Jacob today did not pick up his picture option and I don't usually advocate giving up high draft picks running backs unless you are a team that that running back is the missing piece and for the bills. The only area you go. I don't love the roster is at the running back spot, though probably the deal is expiring. If I am the bills and calling up Josh and and Dave with the raters and saying second-round pick start their but I do want to give up a second-round pick up on the right. If, on the bills to go get Josh Jacobs exposure was to fully commit you to help shore up the really the one big weakness to have, which is running game, but also to help protect your star Courtney can Josh out because he's been the one to supplement the running game and now you take carries away from him, pleading, roster threat and preserve his body. So it's like almost like a double benefit in getting a running back. Like you mentioned, it's booster running same Josh Allen and Boomer Esiason. It was last week. He advocated for maybe say quan Barclay getting traded to the bills.

If you are in New Jersey right now and Joe Shane and Brian Dave all when you're off to a three and one start. I think right now.

The timing evenly of the new regime in Las Vegas, but you're not winning the timing right now to treat say quan when this team is three and one of the plan will I know the probably loose the Packers as we can follow three into it is a tough sell. The sum of those guys in the locker room that you're trying to get the buyer if you're the Giants you may just have to end this get contentious. You may just have to franchise tag say quan Barclay at the end of the year. It would be tough to trade him now because whatever your preaching is working and you're asking for a bind. If you trade one of the more popular players in the locker room and the best player on your roster, even though I would be concerned with his lack of being able to stay on the field of giving a big long term deal. I think you may need to franchise tag say: Barclay and probably not turned bills. I get the objects you have a great right now will add three and one what I will say if the bills come knocking for a first round pick.

That's different. You have a price that you have a friend it's the judge. I know players don't think this way but you came in with very low expectations is not expected of this team and its the teams a beaten out of the Titans toured again kind of borderline okay anyway it's not like another beating great teams notes or you not wrong on that front. Jim Kelly Butler play one more here he explains why he's rooting for Kenny Pickett. Just not this weekend you going to Miami and then still followed probably closely the ACC at Kenny Pickett on the ACC player of the year last year coming into town this weekend for his first career start in front of those Buffalo fans what you kind of expect that a Kenny Pickett. Good luck. I like would like to my pictures go to be a good quarterback know the near future. I don't want to know a very good defense to a defector like Laura Proctor on it and see what happens.

I want to be him this time. You know what you work somewhere and I will see what happened but I wish you nothing but the best of luck because you know what throughout this year, you know, I know, I grew up and picked her got bigger and, of course, build knowledge figures are among the controllers.

But the best for Young. He opened the rope dug well this year. Yeah, I would find it very hard to believe that this scan for Kenny Pickett this weekend.

Here's here's one just betting number early bills line 14 this weekend.

14 points.

A lot of the NFL and you could you could be trailing by three scores in your back door cover and all that.

Marco you been around a lot of years. Bills line 14 this weekend in Buffalo. Rookie QB first career start, I'd stay away a lot of points and I'll eat you have to do is the bills.

That's why we go to you for the voice of reason because you're right that is the ultimate stay awake to look at me so I don't have to do this.

There's no reason that I have to pick this game. Something about that woman that I would feel good about. I had to.

I was Buffalo Ryan, if you had to pick that game bills and still as we delay the 14 with the bills. I would suggest scored good points about social here's my number one rule think the teams get a win. And I feel really confident about them winning. I usually lay the points and a big number, but I usually hear 914 there's a college full of course I would hate to place the team that I think is going to lose and get blown out and then plus the 14 I would probably plus the 14 and then about the third quarter hate myself for placing the 1438. Nothing is that don't show on CBS sports radial ring the closing bell next listening to the second show I get to the closing bell in just a second hanky real quickly. If you had to guess, is this Matt Ryan Russell Wilson, 9 to 17 for 69 yards is that Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan in the first half. Deftly, Russell Wilson, yes. Matt Ryan is 12 of 19 for hundred and 40 yards, no touchdown, one interception.

Russell Wilson -1769 yards, 23 rushing yards is that the Broncos leading rusher Russell Wilson or the Colts leading rusher in this game Philip Lindsay 23 will go Russell Wilson, you would be correct. Philip Lindsay is 34 yards 55 yards receiving Melvin Gordon or Michael Pittman Junior Michael Pittman Junior you are correct that's leading receiver 55 yards, or Michael Pittman 25 yards for Melvin Gordon leading tackler. Seven is that the leading tackler for the Broncos or the Colts a lot of sacks on the Denver side so I think it's but I will say Colts leading tackler. Seven.

No Kenny Moore's leading tackler for the Colts for residual is leading tackler, seven while God there is an Iowa guy giving him plenty of Judah painted Iowa rivalry games back in the day is a tackling machine that you for sacks, but the Broncos had in the first half, one for the vaunted Indianapolis Colts defense, Colts rookie left tackle three holding calls in the first half. I know that's a record boy. He's cross and only three in the first half alone D driver to legacy something like 45 called allies. Sports Bureau went up at halftime here. I get too close to using the taking stock of the sports world.

It's time to find out so late closing. This is a call from ESPN not to the name of this basketball player based on his Steve, hope you get time on I thought I was envisioning something or heard something that can actually be the person's name was also based on his radio today Hickey is that how you fat by that that person's last name thing is God-given change out of the how you get that last name is all it's not one word yet I have no clue.

I don't know the guys from my no clue at any of the information on the story. All I heard those home, you fat, what you say all you fat that is the name is spelled out.

It sounds know you to the letter really. I got a little googling HO preachers, why are you FAT we know about the Steve that family lineage. No pets and we know much outside of Steve, who interestingly French soldiers to ease in the free in the front.

Steve ST EE VE yeah that yeah I've no clue to break name so give a stock up the Steve how you fat you are as big as return to Red River Texas, Oklahoma, stock up down to Thursday night football it 63 at the half. I have zero interest in watching this game the second half have to go for work.doubt that there is an affable Fremont brain reportedly threw a punch at Jordan pool Bob Myers doesn't believe that contracts view the arguments between Jordan pool. Jim agreed both looking for new deals with inclusions is seen as soon as I have in my scores can help Rotary enforcement is maybe there's something that Jordan pool could've said, but I don't get the benefit of the doubt, and your punching a teammate like what he thank you, not Michael Jordan's. Her right, Dr. Max Johnson broken bone in his throwing hand.

The quarterback at Texas A&M they may go back to Haines King. I know that they play Alabama think it's time for Connolly sock them accents seem to because I was here's what else you that in a then little excitement and then what's your Baker Mayfield talked to the MET earlier you said you now Baker skeletal chipping with the media somatic lockdown is not finally Michael joined us last week and I told the story that we saw Mike Greenberg is from a radio partner in the airport ordering a bagel with butter and then getting a slice of cheese on it go like out of nowhere steadily agreed. He wants or multiple times. He eats wings with a fork and knife. I thought that was like a throwaway joke, Mike Greenberg was on a podcast and he admitted that he does eat wings with a fork and knife and pizza is on the Kevin Clark's slow news day podcast.

I guess it was a slow news day, but will talk more about this tomorrow. Why is Mike Greenberg eating wings with a fork and knife that annoys me stock big thank you to Kevin Harlan will Middlebrook thought the Bible do it again all tomorrow.

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