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June 1, 2022 3:12 pm

Rich breaks down the QB’s in the latest ‘The Match’ golf event among Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and ranks them in terms of all-time greats vs which quarterback he'd want most for the 2022 season.

NBC Sports Boston’s Patriots Insider Tom Curran tells Rich why Bill Belichick will turn the Pats’ offensive play calling duties over to former New York Giants Head Coach Joe Judge, why New England fans should expect a “pretty average team” next season, why he thinks Tom Brady will find success in the NFL on FOX broadcast booth once his storied playing career is over, and how Belichick’s end game could likely play out once his coaching career wraps up.

Rich reacts to NFL Network Analyst David Carr predicting the Jets will reach the playoffs and debates Brockman on the chances Joe Burrow and the Bengals will miss the postseason in ’22.

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Wow, I will write every body it's time for the rich Eisen show June 1 at all. I am your humble here in Los Angeles, California. Eisen shows that hanging out with you on NBC Sports on Peacock Sirius XM channel 85 and its audio for those who need an actual title to go with the number were also here on the Odyssey happen are a special hello to our terrestrial radio listeners on the rich Eisen show terrestrial radio network coast-to-coast in this great sports loving nation of ours. We say hello to our YouTube viewers YouTube.com/rich Eisen show for anybody that's out there that wants to catch up on anything that you missed it sitting right there. Once we are all over our entire damn near eight years of the show sits on the archive page YouTube.com/rich Eisen show in our podcast listeners are listening to us whenever you darn well please at your right to take our podcast into your ear gate and please do subscribe and give us that old five-star rating give me the five star rating like you're my driver that's all I ask for and are on our up to me was, and I guess now is nice and here it is driving the rest of your use of the turn signal you yeah you as many airframes in the front runner talking negative. I will see you DJ Mikey D. CTG. Jefferson, like the candle what's up over there teaching. I mean, it's Wednesday. Note that means one by name on a night at the 400 me okay DJ pronoun teaches going atop you're going to do that right okay very good you see top-down management and I just can be pedestrian Wednesday night for for me and and Susan my life. My wife is sorry and so you know what it's it's it's a great day in our sports world because it's the last month.

We finally reached the last month with no football in it at all July. As you know is when training camps open and things of that nature.

And so football is run on the corners Meditech sort of football 99 days from today so that yesterday was 199 days from today is when the bills will be just up the road from here in and Sophia kick off the season on NBC to be hundred percent. I can't really hundred percent on the 99 days from tonight. Rich, which is the percentage of fact that they are going to sell the techno logo banner laying here in Los Angeles. Bills are taking on the Rams again that we believe is you know a lot of people believe is is a Super Bowl preview for Arizona and 99 days from the season opening up Josh Allen is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Along with teammates of Patrick Holmes and Brady and Rogers. It's the match to everybody love that it matched Brady and Rogers are taking on the homes in Allen and and so the NBA finals begin tomorrow night up the coast in San Francisco, the NHL playoffs of the gun, the Oilers and the avalanche combined for 19 for handles just scored again last night.

I will that's going to be just incredible action. I mean just incredible. Lots of biscuits be put in the basket. Lots of lamps being lit in the Rangers trying to dethrone Tampa for the right to play for Lord Stanley's cup, but no you don't. We go football and we always do, because June.

Actually, you know, I'm sure my colleagues in the NFL media group and 345 Park Ave. would say pushback single room is no football in June. Pretty much every single mandatory minicamp is this month in June and so there will be a period of time where we discuss who's there is not there and discuss whose contract needs to be massaged and why they're not in their organized team activities that needs to be having them there and I know you're laughing I should massage your child and so will I understand this is the way I talk and I did not mean that this contract is is completely handled as a matter fact John Watson's contract is the reason why you know when the mandatory minicamp hits and the man is the agent sent out the stationary part of the combine might not be in Arizona all that stuff playing out this month. Lamar says he'll be there this stuff is voluntary right now and so on and so forth. That's part of the drama for this month and Ian Rappaport will join us in our number three it's June 1 and that's when sometimes cuts are made for salary-cap purposes, but I don't believe anything big is going to happen today and part of that is know Myers the ground. I don't really hear very much.

And plus when I invited Ian on the program offered in the first spot up on the show originally and he said he was playing golf. So I think of anything significant going to happen. Somebody whose job it instantly available because this person be available on the phone and out there playing golf, but I will check in with you in our three CI we hit him and what's going on and you know obviously the soundbite that made our client around the world from Brandon Marshall's podcast from Aaron. Donald is something that's on a lot of people's minds and DeShawn Watson has 1/23 accuser now filing a civil lawsuit in pro football talk my right rear all the time from Florio read a piece today saying that the 24th different accusers apparently in the ether as well. So let's talk about with Ian then buttoned with the match going down today and Brady and Rogers taking on Allen and the homes I figured, you know what I'm sitting there thinking when it's all said and done, will there be a time when we look back at this match and say before best quarterbacks of their generation once played a round of golf together and you could say Brady and Rogers are in a different generation, then the homes in Allen but I think what it said and done. When the next generation comes along and make the NexGen views Allen in the homes is the old Jan in the same way that Alan and the homes generation might view Brady and Rogers could we have an argument that these four guys are the best of their times and just using that as a launching off point for this conversation that if you rent these guys all time. Right now it's an easy was to make Brady Rogers homes in Allen we got a goad Brady's the goat and then Rogers has one championship just like the homes does and homes.

However, as more Super Bowl appearances than Rogers right now but Rogers has all the records and appellations and accolades and MVPs that that the homes doesn't have just yet. And then there's Alan before he still young pup when it comes to career accomplishments. That's an easy list, but if you then just put it in the box of 2022.

Which guy would you take going into 2022 to win a Super Bowl which guy would you would you if you had your choice and how to rank them one through four. This is your guy that you get to choose one through four. To try and win the championship this year and I know were not including a ton of other quarterbacks. I understand I and all due respect to the defending champ in Stafford and not playing often. He's not playing golf or just talk about the guys playing golf today. One through four. The list is different. The guy was fourth on the career accomplishments list for me tops the list Josh out.

That's the guy would take first overall in this draft to take the quarterback to try and win the Super Bowl this year. I would take Allen and of course you could say well you know what is rosters this monster. I'm just talking about the guy game on the line 5 minutes to go get out the four major role to wrap it up or five minutes to go.

You gotta come back and if say the other team comes back on you he can come back on them and they may come back on you.

Again, he can come back on you one more time about the 13th that that's what Remove that from equation, but I'll take Allen first and then you got the 12's and Rogers is the back-to-back MVP of this league and I know Devante Adams isn't there anymore, but I'm just removing again roster and select which quarterback would you want to go through the crucible this season, including the postseason and that's where I have to put Brady above Rogers because the last several January's Rogers is run into some sort of a brick wall to January's ago was Brady himself. Last year on that snowy night in Lambeau Field. It was just all out of sorts.

The minute Mercedes Lewis mumbled and that first half of that game just went tumbling down Hill AG. John goes out but then Rogers make some crucial mistakes that I'm sure he sees on film and used his policies in the back of his head.

Every now and then when he puts his mind to think about last year and I just put my homes fourth on that list, which is kinda crazy at importing anybody on the fourth on the list of the moms is not fourth on many lists. These usually talk to, or if not top three but I was just genuinely concerned about the way the homes regressed towards the end of last season and when push comes to shove, does he make that mistake trying to do the dreaded. Too much in a way that Alan has not or did not last year. Towards the end and then obviously Brady in the homes of Brady and Rogers habitually avoid. That's my list, but Allen's number one, this guy is a totally different quarterback and animal than the pocket pastors we all know any can still be that pocket passer and he's that guy that creates the extra time in the makes the incredible throws whether he slip in a backhanded underhanded. Whatever handed him I think he hasn't done the left-handed throw yet I think I said that Alan and and interesting will will see what happens this year. If he's gonna run it as much.

I think you have to and I think he runs over any leaps over people is just a totally different animal. But with the draft pick. Know the hope is, he doesn't like SL but now James Cook can be a guy that he flips the ball to out of the backfield and let him do some work will route an extra guy, Gabriel Davis, now get in the roster reason why mom like in a but just in terms of his abilities last second last minute he could even be better this year because of what he went through last year. I'm frightened for the rest of the league as to what leaping might be preparing to take this year and that's the figurative one, not the literal one, but you're doing the thing Rich, what's the thing doing the thing your picking against Brady get what you vowed not to die, know that but I'm not necessarily picking against Tom's team and I did put him above the other two on this list. I'm just saying in 2022. The way this game is played this way this game is defended. The way this game usually comes down to this or that, that a quarterback can either provide or overcome Allen skill set is second to none. We only want not what you could say that can run it and throw it with success is Lamar right Russ Kyler DeShawn Watson who else. Who else can run it in throat with the threat level like him.

Daniel Jones you saw that he can please and Justin Herbert just hurts another guy can do that. Now I gotta get going now I Allen and I know that in this day and age allotted quarterbacks that can beat you with legs and arms. There's nobody like him that Prescott there's another one under a lot of pressure that's true.

Stop is always pressure when lot in the same way that the bills had for 10 seconds to take off the clock. The Cowboys took 13 seconds off the clock.

Try to get one more playoff and mean you walk. I did see the show, but that does deserve get mentioned in terms of arms, legs, although I would proffer a single run even less this year and hope so that's where I'm regular what you have to say 844204 Rich number to dial our first guest is Tommy Curry okay is probably put Brady first all asking this question by put analyze the question of David Carr when he joined as well. David's on this program because he mentioned the name drop me on NFL total Access because yesterday in honor of Joe Namath, 79th birthday with in studio. They had their analyst. Total Access analysts come up with guarantees know of and Derek Derek card Derek card oh David did not guarantee anything with the raters did not guarantee anything on that front. You want jets will and David Carr said the Jets are going to close a guaranteed so that earns a phone call the rich.

I kick the tires on that one for you immediately book them well. Plus current already been booked. We need to be fair and balanced diffuse patriots that I had got a fair and balanced estate. But you know we have teachers on the brink as there was an outstanding exchange with Bill Belichick in his press availability yesterday which he dropped a variant to use a phrase of one of the rich doesn't show coaching clichs top three favorite actually one coaching clich Belichick and of course, that was some we talked about last week is who's calling the plays this year because Josh McDaniels is out with David's bro in Vegas now, so lots to discuss their Ian Rappaport, our number 384-4204 Rich number to dial. We found out a lot more about the Tommy Pham John Peterson fantasy league yesterday from Tommy Pham in Boston. This is getting more and more it gets fun working on that 844204 Rich number to dial which quarterback do you think should be at the top of your list and for want to go outside of the match from today for your list, go for mobile take all comers. 844204 Rich number the doll here in the program. Now you can play a sound sound current NBC Sports Boston patriots insider when we come back. Does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day. Dove men plus gear dry spray goes on instantly drive for cleaner fuel and offers 48 hours sweat and order protection repeat that 48 hours of sweat and order protection.

Use it and don't even think about it. Also dove men dry spray contains doves unique one quarter moisturizing cream. It helps protect your skin trite dove men plus care dry spray goes on dry cleaning fee all day back here on the Rich Eisen show 844204 Rich number to dial joining us here on the Mercedes-Benz ranch phone line from NBC Sports Boston will get to him in 161 a split second. But here's a soundbite yesterday from Bill Belichick's press conference. You caught this with Chris yet saw that we are three Rich Eisen show coaching clichs that we believe memory handed we told Mike McDaniel and love to have you drop one of the Prescott balls all drop all three of my next press conference at the combine the debit is what it is I don't have a crystal ball and you can control only what you can control, except that third clich this time of year when players are either holding out or not there or are sitting at home as a free agent and you're wondering will you sign the sky you could basically Sam only talk about the guys were here, and that's apparently what happened yesterday when Noah Belichick was asked about Michigan's finest Joshua check run out that what was I was an and eat the questioner compared to J potentially in his abilities is blossoming abilities to Dante Hightower was a free agent at the crib right now is not, it is not, and this is how that exchange one is similar like you see Dante in the past. This stress to compare most of those linebackers later you you will season of pleasure on the team. The master at work, master. Now you know what I think it's big for our lists to have somebody of his stature. Utilize absolute basically verbatim utilize one of them. It's big for us joining us in the Mercedes-Benz ranch phone line from NBC Sports Boston has been up many of these press conferences Tom current hiding time commended the world a little cold out you were doing fine with it that's good I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear the role okay very good.

We were at the press conference yesterday were either I will couple hours later about the way over correctly you interesting because there would between the perception I thought that is being kind of a Hightower replica, back most likely so he could meet anyone to Dante Hightower's most gifted that when the guarding my exclamation to say the most brilliant players we had during that period is over now but that so that's you, you took that is when Belichick talks heaps praise upon you. He no longer intends to coaching his self. I mean we can come up with where that would work that what met.

LPN from great earlier you got there on the field right now but I could don't think we look at the feeling patriots are trying to do defensively get glimmer quicker. After able to cover at the second level just as well as they can rush Dante Hightower is kind of a bad fit with the release Kyle be annoyed with the most productive buyback okay Billy and they have not brought you to call us back either. Probably more of a coverage guide Hightower so it would be a stretch for me to believe Hightower would be Becky could be quiet for a hell of a lot less money accustomed to it because these the conversation about the patriots that slinked out certainly nationally in the last couple weeks and play calling and that we played that soundbite from the other day, Tom.

When Belichick was asked about who's calling the plays in his leg looked like minicamp plays like what are you talking about here and the the conversation though is about once it hits the it being the season who's calling the plays offensively what you think is going to happen there now that Josh McDaniels is an Las Vegas Tom spending all of you out there you go. All time vacuums. He is the quarterback coach Belichick is overseeing the offense almost complete exclusion again in the section 14 were not there. Belichick little good because I doubt it, but he will being what we can fix.

I believe the attachment Go directly to play caller quarterback coach de facto officer coordinator Google globally fully up to speed. Bill will remain the case of emergency brake class go up to the well but it can't be met. We talked about S Whitfield Harry McCauley cockpit Castle Hook leave for seven different teams 14 seasons in the league.

Never did I play caller not spend every meeting with the quarterbacks so that the curse of the office of Michael Walt's ministry. I speculate from 32 when he doesn't have a quick most likely be Joe Chuck what occlusal did this is a crucial time to agree Tom, I mean like that's that's why the question is being asked over and over again. Let me think that they have him not say that will greatly know both being the best example I think of guys who heckle learning curve for America. The Mac yelled back kind of plug-and-play good luck you have what I mean is it the fact that he's plug-and-play and he has a certain I guess maturity about him, not just neck up, but in his in his abilities to 2B.

The vessel of the do your job mentality on offense, but if if I told you last year when McDaniels was coordinating the offense for the umpteenth straight year and Matt Jones was looking the way he was looking that the guy who okay green lit the first ever in my time watching the NFL. I guess surrender formation that caused him to get fired. I had coach of the Giants that that's the guy that's going to take the reins of Matt Jones's career and offense in your two on anomaly patriots transitive and like it, let's do that, you know, and that that thing thing, I think you're here in New England. You hear more me out might be a word or over the last decade, and yet it one people, we can look at the 17 season here that ended like panic think we can all agree that the decision to fit their quarterback would 98.2% look like dubious decision to move on top rate borne out so the drafting dubious. So when we look, there are fewer people in New England that you might expect, who say okay Billy truck I think is a lot of neon that there's a lot of why why Joe Chuck what was the what would be a tendency plan or office coordinator when you knew Josh McDaniels was going to go get fired New York and become the office with a type of thing that may patriots fan or media today walking on a thin branch so I could see the part of the skeptic skeptics because what's the mean your your your Belichick veteran Tom current, why, why wouldn't what's what's the point of keeping this whole thing secret I know he's done that on defense. I know that's that's been something that he's done for years. Even with his own son.

Calling plays on defense. He just never puts it out there who's doing it in the same way that all 31 teams do because what's the big deal what what is his philosophy on all that with a lot of seated. One boy but here type of operation and title to matter how bleak the titles didn't matter to you when you were in the giant put them in the 80s get better while that help guide future write mail you have to go into a head-coaching interview will explain exactly what your job because the linebackers coach wash to be considered as the head coach NFL that your local media.

I think that is an obstacle not necessary. Personally Bill run the team one could spend the night suitable 16 but I don't think I will pick up their delight at the 55th air employee Mickey the dunce about what their jobs are filled with 70 with the resume.

He has you emboldened to do what he does time turn your cousin so some of the patriots look like this are we think are in Minneapolis.

The average team with an awful full reboot there probably a place on the backend likely starting corner will be a guide in the NFL. Last year Malcolm Butler last week.

The Cardinals can be good if he really good dear counting up the linebackers who are completely unproven.

Okay grown week one McMillan and needed.

Upload all in the two times the patient would begin to hear it hard to fake.

Wow Topeka going to be shocked up because their complement of receivers is really pretty good data to find a partner should make a different I don't think a second round pick type one important, I will be stunned if you catch up with 30 balls a minute, but you got ahead of them. There very very real hundred 82,006 6162 that's getting so he will be a project look like a deal, eight, nine, 988 tenet seven type team to make you think maybe the Johnsons of the Jets contest the patriots.

This is using some I mean talk with them. What last wartime while the coach of the country did that they let go of Tom correct correct approach to print out. We will look at a few years ago.

Okay Brian for Bill and yet it so I don't want to look at Mike McDaniel. Completely over that effectively they have better players. I think back, but until effectively, they probably have better play a much better secondary.

How how would you, I would say the patriots are. They're up against the fish ship there. Tom turned here on the rich doesn't show before I let you go on to your your first day of June, Wednesday.

Sir, you surprised to hear the Brady communal.

Forget about the bag that was put on the table. The I guess you can't, but it's there, and 75 million bucks you surprised at Brady's post career scenario is gonna be a mixture of what is currently doing with his production company, but also going in the booth and calling was I would love the attitude that he had anything to do I can do better. I really think that patent and not that nasty way. I don't think but I think the Romo Manning paving the way to making a ton of money and embracing what I I can very easily be back.

I look at the guy is more to me than you think.

Love that felt goes looking for the next step is always looking for the next Everett Rich so I guess the Murdochs are making up for all the money left on the table for craft. Basically what it is really very saying all that money that all the hometown discounts he gave all no doubt you that's insane all the hometown discounts that you gave to craft. He's making it back and then some and just your one thanks to the Murdochs at right really fascinating aspect of it. I don't think that he realized all worried about all the post patriot mortality more than you really think Norma would flick it was going on. He asked the folks around him to please stop talking to the media because he was worried you could be blackballed around the league even accomplish two people by 2015, without going on is like look, you guys keep slamming rebel or the league there make it so that I can never play anywhere else. If I end up leaving doing what I'll be blackballed and you realize that no blackballed medium bigger than I thought it good as Tillotson reason you write a good relationship right well I mean, look, I'm I'm new in my relation with them. I just think that you think you one on one on the side right engaged with him when he really dropped the veil right right you see you see you know we all assume that somebody's doing is you know Twitter and Instagram and all that stuff for him but there's a sense of humor that he has. I think he's going to show off and then the red asked that that he is when it comes to competing and sitting in the booth and that's going to be the one question I have is can he be critical and save that guy didn't do it. That guy shouldn't of done it. That guy needs to do it better. Otherwise not and I think he can because there's a way that you can criticize somebody within the construct of just that moment and not say that the guys useless in the same way that you see a lot of people screaming every day on television and out so you and he cannot have rye tonic self-deprecating thing that patent often brings.

It could happen, but I'll be at as he finds his voice how to deal with criticism of how well because I don't think will be an immediate criticize very often for think the performance 20 think you got think that he has done produce. He often doesn't get criticized very often really not. When I overreacted.

So I guess in in saying farewell to you since were talking about Brady's endgame scenario and Belichick is now the big 70.

How do you think is endgame is going to go.

How do you think it's just good to be one off-season nobody sees economy just like I'm out or or it will be Coach K were let everyone know it's his last year or or or what what what you copy think this is going to go in New England because everybody's gone now. I mean pretty much a mean summit. Some of come back on his staff as we just established in this conversation but keep the crafts and here's pretty much the last of the do your job. Successful error. That's their right. And I think it was interesting to hear Robert craft in chips the middle of the table and went alike on the playoffs three years in a row or two on three years about when you get so unnoted the stretch, but the craft has noticed that I don't think that would be unfair so your 70 with the resume that he has feel he's putting the former L so I think that watching is it media members and people fall the leak. What is the undercurrent of the relationship between ownership and Bill Belichick as Robert continues and quickly goes into accepting all the accomplishments they have worked there for the patriots 2025 and beyond. And does Bill have the opportunity to make ownership level decision is what I want to have happen it coach and this is what I want to be the GM Robert think that thought that all the that's what food site Absolutely I just wonder how it's can all finally come down this year. There was even a conversation. I heard somewhere that keep the nine Belichick diminishes like what you talking about. I think it was even asked of him and he just like nonlinear right on me like that was yet that was asked of him and it just seems like he is as energized as ever.

He's is locked in his average is Belichick is ever so by communicated to anyone who had to leave and I think supposition is within the organization. At the very highest level goes Bill will let us know.

Just a gap queen of my death.

Today my he would he would let them know so but it can be the Robert Bill I don't know if it would call it sword crossing what they kinda gone on remotely authored by Robert is fascinating for me to what Tom thinks a time and color in the summer will have you back on is that since conditions warrant.

Thank you sir, there's a man Tom current time you turn teams that have won a playoff game. More recently, the patriots with Texans, Vikings, Browns, Bengals, Titans, Seahawks or even saints, Packers, 49ers, Chiefs box bills Rams that is almost half the league almost half the league and and again this the way that Belichick operates in. You know you need to be very careful.

By supposing what the team is going to do or look like as last year.

Here comes a rookie quarterback made sent can pack and and here comes a rookie quarterback what's his team to look like and they stumbled out of the gate if you will, and then ripped off for two straight months looking like the patriots of old where you're the one who makes the mistake. They're the ones who don't. You're the one who is always finding yourself overcoming a deficit. They're not. You're the one trying to come back on them. They're the ones were making situationally brilliant play to make sure you have a sick enough time left on the clock to do. I mean it was a two month to month stretch in the middle of the season was spectacular MMA headwall, so be careful. Just looking at this restaurant saying that the team is going to be less than but if the offense struggles in the first few weeks and you're looking at the guy you just washed out is in the coach the New York Giants and came up with that third down take a neat surrender formation inside their own 5 yard line in the season the Tory lost and you have nothing to do but damn the torpedoes and you basically, with hardly a single pane and that's the God it's can be sitting right there and that Jones doesn't look it's a sophomore slump look out man look out because what's the other option which first appears. The other options. Bill calls the place you imagine you watch Bill and he's there but the menu in front of his face and I want that I don't think that's can happen if Joe Judge that's not exactly exciting either based on how went in New York but everybody knows him for a long time before hand says he is brilliant he is smart and he can do it you will be able to do it and still in Bill we trust so we got like is that it's not many, it's minicamp. Now let's see how things look three months April 4 204 Rich never doll here in the rich as Cheryl taking phone calls and set up the rest of the show that includes David Carr of the NFL network and Ian Rappaport as well.

That's all, right here in the rich doesn't show back here in our program. April 4 204 Rich number doll David Carson to join us. He predicted yesterday that the jet he guaranteed it is matter-of-fact and the construct of the honoring Joe Namath's 79th birthday. They could segments we just rip that off right we could let me just come with a guarantee. Tory Holt who is the guest analyzing on NFL total Access guaranteed that Matthew Stafford win MVP okay and David Carr said that the Jets would make the playoffs.

Which one is a little spicier just making the class only Brady was the only guy who threw over 40 touchdowns last year, 40 touchdowns above, Stafford was very mean and Stafford could have a better year and Stafford is the Super Bowl winning quarterback. It would just be an anti-Los Angeles NFL bias if he has a similar year and the Rams win their division and he doesn't get MVP votes because he threw out interceptions last year, Rogers only had a hand for well and plus it was the bias of louts got to the coach. Oh true that true rights can be coached just look at him now is 17 interceptions. Well, it was also a swoon during the year. Any you know barely finished first in his division to diff or this year.

He's the Super Bowl MVP Super Bowl defending Super Bowl winning quarterback right and this year there's Alan Robinson this year they're going to be expected to win more games than they they even did last year. We need to see it first only sought last year the Jets making the playoffs man in the summer. We'll talk about with with David arming the first nine games of the season they got by week in week 10.

You take a look at their schedule limits totally insane like they could've and then you see the backend of their schedule and it's just like if they get the backend of their schedule and work assuming that this team is the teams are that they're playing her are you know similar to last year's effectiveness. The Jets if the Jets can hit that stretch five and 411 shot we do in the Jets just yet.

Now not do it just yet.

I want to talk to David first anyway, but you look at their their first four games are all against the AFC North meaning to play the defending AFC champs in the first game out as against Baltimore and all you need to know is is DeShawn Watson going to be playing in week two for the Cleveland Browns that the answer no answers. Applying the jet so the probably maybe come down to suspension week three. That's when on its way goes in the patriots of the benefit is that he's deftly not back up again Mike and then once they're done with that they take on Miami wound New England's first tough start Green Bay and that of their one-game against the AFC West there one-game against the AFC West is dictating on last year's last-place winner because you know they finished last in the American and the FCE is happening to the status of the at Russell Wilson in their home for New England the day before Halloween and then home for Buffalo and then they got the by week, after which they take on doing that again.

And that's when the schedule begins to soften Chicago to go at Minnesota at Buffalo home for Detroit home for Jacksonville at Seattle and at Miami so the Jets hit that week 1105 and for those first nine games against that tough stretch.

It's possible but they're gonna have to win a bunch of games that a young roster will have to above their years gel fast in order to do some sauce Gardner will be in the backend. All I don't know really obviously will I don't. There, they're saying you gotta compete for the job. Got it. No, I don't.

But this is to succeed up with. This is the cattle we are fickle and and Marcus Freeman right his former head coach and former position coach at Cincinnati that didn't hear didn't hear from them both saying that, Connie sauce while you're here here you're not ready to start a and then as Freeman said he threw EE E grant that pick against Central Florida and the game it was forced into playing anything I'll call you sauce now and then said, you know, they thought he was too green to get in and he played that game and he made that plain. He certainly looked at his assistants go okay I get soon column sauce until he got drafted, but that's what you get guys like him and Garrett Wilson where they come in the like.I don't know about last year and I don't know about the history of this team and I don't know about the same old Jets, but I'm in turn this around this program around but man it is a deeper course just the Jets luck that it's the year that the AFC gets the toughest it's been maybe ever. Yeah, maybe ever.

I just said those words maybe ever think your mom is where we are in this day and age where okay Brady and Brady Peyton Manning and finally leave their posts in the AFC and then now it's it's a wide open because no one can be able to play quarterback at such a high level like those guys. And then there's the homes in Allen and there's Joe Barro and Lamar and there is DeShawn Watson and there's Russell Wilson and Herbert and Derek Carr Davis Miller and Matt Ryan come on man crazy but will talk to David Carr about the subject and more coming up and I was looking at this earlier so you know that the turnover for the playoffs is about 50% of the Jets make it who was most likely to miss it. What you know. I think the raters are winning the division which is hot. Take, to say the least spicy right and so who would not make it so was the last year as the patriots yeah last year is a paid maybe I'll choose them. Yeah, and I think in a basement, Tom said it betrayed you said it's possible the Jets adopted a patterning that whammy at Steelers patriots, Missouri and the Bengals don't make tight both. I am so not here for that Bengals taken a step back and hold a struggle in the hereafter is the town where green is no plaque or signposts still giving you insanely yummy rat poison on which Nick Sabin spoke yesterday at the SEC coaches gathering will going to get that for you coming up in the next hour right off the back. I don't get it.

I don't get it. The Bengals that was to get juicy Bengals odds 20 to 122 to 1 instancing the Browns have better odds so stupid. Cowboys tell you something. Whoever sits there and makes this stuff up, looks at the Bengals and what they look like last year and that quarterback showing you he is special corn and stripes man is a unicorn and the biggest issue was the offense of line and the crap out of it like Hans Gruber hitting it again in free agency. You look at the Browns and we are you even know their prize quarterback acquisitions going to be available to them yet and what else did they do last year except gold when Baker Mayfield was doing what he could do and succeeding before he got hurt defensively folding and then Mayfield was up and down in its own right, and you have no idea if the quarterbacks can be there. What the hell they're doing with the quarterback right now. As of right now, you're going to give that team better odds in the Bengals you out of your mind. Thank God I don't gamble for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments. It's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all, opponents. Much of Ms. Natalie in a conversation where is Andre free of all was said there was number one is not even going back before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andre were able to go in headline that the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen wherever you get your podcasts