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REShow: Les Snead/Michael Chiklis - Hour 3 (6-7-2022)

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REShow: Les Snead/Michael Chiklis - Hour 3 (6-7-2022)

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June 7, 2022 3:44 pm

Rams GM Les Snead and Rich discuss Aaron Donald’s new contract and how L.A. seems to have endless room under the salary cap, paying Cooper Kupp and how long the Rams’ championship window will stay open, and what happened when Odell Beckham Jr. crashed Sean McVay’s recent wedding. 

Michael Chiklis joins Rich in-studio and reveals how much he’s enjoying portraying Celtics’ legend Red Auerbach in HBO’s ‘Winning Time,’ discusses Boston’s return to the NBA Finals and his hatred of the Magic Johnson-era Lakers, reveals that Tom Brady jilted him once he left the Patriots for the Buccaneers and engages in some Red Sox-Yankees verbal volleyball with fellow Boston fan Chris Brockman against pinstripes fans Rich and Del Tufo.

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Major bummer. Obviously, it's in Boston next week, but hopefully he'll be Jack's trainee.

It was obvious that something was amiss. It was at the PGA championship sure so that some some newsprint breaking right there in the story of the day yesterday here in Los Angeles was in fact the signing to a new contract of one of the best players the NFL's ever seen on the defense of sizable and certainly the best defensive player in the game today and when he said he was at peace. What I tell you buses can get this thing figured out is if the pics can be aft, soaking the That's my two cents on Armada mass, All just joining us on the Mercedes-Benz vans phone line is the general manager of the Los Angeles Rams Leslie title must you I'm good soul was more Aaron Donald on the McVeigh wedding registry. Instead, you get that instead of a gravy boat for you what what you know or you wise choice less.

I think it's a win-win. Recall that a win-win for for everybody. So how long has this been in the making less this contract, making it the moment after the Super Bowl, and I know I know, whether it be everyone what you will not. So we communicate with Aaron with hotpants athletes for probably a couple days that up until yesterday. Okay so when you mentioned on the podcast recently Brandon Marshall so that he would be at peace with his career was at a message in your direction was the were things going the little sideways during the time or I think at that point in time like the momentum were very creaky, hot.

Maybe the big picture? Only requirement and the PKD probably laid out. We were thinking about it, which really would with an outdated best players played a game like that, but I do think one of the players when you really want take a look at guided figure out he can still be that the player that I think you did that all pertinent figured out will could be quite decided to come back in terms of coming back and playing the contract appears to be the same number of years left that he had. Anyway, it's just highly enhanced monetarily contract do you what's the general sense that you have for that third year where he'll have a decision to either walk away or make 30 million box which we might even be leaving less one year by year and I believe will number to start contacting dinner at that point after beat you down and got a you know what what what Aaron Aaron hand write up of how long you want to continue claim Aaron Doug that light now in this situation are situational law based on the core that we have you know we all have making the most of the window or in Leslie general manager Ramseyer doesn't show you just mention the window that you have presently right now and how it works, not just of the timing to first for Donald, but maybe for for you with the team. I guess I'll ask the general question the fans are wondering how you have room on the For all the signings that you have including Donald. Plus how does this work have Been a big help. Felt like be competitive. There is a way to be created to get on there and think like that so a lot right now in our window) Donald very, very important, so there's no better money on the vehicle player any player other than that I do have to make another place in and I know you mentioned earlier right after pics one) there is that moment where we have to do a really good drafting a player like Greg gave to no one on your radio show know who he is like homegrown LA plated Washington we draft workaround, but he's been starting got Aaron start last year or so do our part in making sure we drafting developed those type plans and they come in. So you're able to sit in the top under the window that you currently have is Cooper Less for you. You'll hear about it. Next on the list okay are you and now that and so what, when do you think that some like that that's done next come to as you said earlier, win-win, right, we plug or can't we love to do it. Possible, but in the hypothetical agent right when there's an element of a player under contract week we felt like he deserves array we get an extension, but when a lot of variable objective bearable.

Their speculative variable take a little more time not a microwavable situation to be creative and come up with a win-win for both Cooper and and club so that light can be awarded cloth can continue being in the moment and in the long term.

What is the window when he got what what what what your idea of the window and I know that's a dicey question asked general manager, asking anyway. You mentioned a couple were very main thing the main thing one that high really one game at one time. So that's one thing right now will focus on open our are many can't be more focused on training camp and will get ready to take a very very hot opponent in the Buffalo builder and will keep it that way but I can't come a bigger conceptual window if I do think as long as we have a quarterback like Matthew Stafford and can contribute like Eric like Cooper, like in their time playing the best football week that we have a chance to be in the mix every year. Is there still is there money left for sale like Odell's Odell wants to come back and you know obviously Sean's been on the show saying you'd like him back if I'm not mistaken he crashed Sean's wedding this weekend from a mistake in Christ that wedding now OBJ lightweight right now in Blackpool that all it was cool.

It was really cold because no doubt really really good time together with him. I think we all felt that you waiting for him and him helping me conquer the growing bonded and him coming back to where we deftly talk with OBJ situation like based on the injury it and how much you can can't play are going to affect I will call this year contract. Maybe you are one of a contract, but we've always had a plan of vision that Odell would like be back, but we deftly welcoming home so I guess not to get too deep in the weeds and all must take all the money you sent. In short order. Write all of my healthcare a little more like a rock, no heat, no liquid conjugated in IL group.

She got the lock money so that way the big part in a big part of the vision of hate, not just being himself but also like Aaron did make sacrifices in the contract even though you well-paid cradle of the lock, but he did make right allow us to do our part in building the pain that can continue content bombing is reset the market at the position. Or you could say Donald and you just pay them accordingly. Right. And then you got cop who you say is going to be paid all release that the plan is to take to make that happen.

Despite the variables that you mentioned doesn't cross your mind at all lessening that the team that you beat in the NFC championship game that also happens to reside in your division has to pay their top defensive lineman and wide receiver as well and you could set a market and in a way that might cause an issue for them across your mind, lessening how we were deftly competitive and likely like that. We like the enemy is much as possible, but I don't think elation right where were really focused on on Aaron were really focused internally on we do this with Eric like what you what important Level. Domino effect from contracting how to work around it and I'm sure I'm not doing their focusing on themselves trying to build the best matter, saying that possible so that when we do battle twice a year.

It is still one of those little round heavyweight fight so that you know well how did Odell crash leading the city's Odell session natural sleep, I get cracking. The wedding filled up with out an invite. Now I can tell you that Right of the wedding necessarily have to crash it probably wouldn't have whacked him/it just all like Odell. It was a great wedding really really cool cool I was unbelievable but what made this one probably you need me there is a lot of head coaches right wedding that had once worked with Schaller homework for there's a lot of football people and then there's all the family right from past things like that football, getting all of the year. There's no doubt shows up his right to make like it. Like always, why not, why not really know what a code Odell Dare: giving a hug.

I know you know care my life the last thing Odell i.e. expecting a bus ride to the party and that that parade was bittersweet for him based on the injury course your couple days before that he will not, you know, in the high hotspot but to see Karen OBJ connected and technical baby pictures and things like that know about the bigger the cake looks great to the general peace the Chelsea were a piece of the lambs logo or is it did was adjust the cake was the trophy and the landlubber was just a place that was on the wedding cake. I saw the pictures of the cake just probably would've been tempted I had had to leave you a car that struck it inside look like chocolate and son where there that make may maybe make a way for little money and a lot of cake making everyone there with having a blast was a little bit of like this football reunion that it was there with my Miami of Ohio with American high school reunion. There was the right game of reunion going on, and everyone will have a blast so I do think there were some money really really nice good at least you know that there was clearly on the catering. So we handled our wedding flowers and Shawn.

I'll never tell you how much we paid. Maybe that's why he needs to keep you came and congrats on getting Donald done. You must be a happy guy must be a very very happy guy and I'm sure that that's something that you want resonating in the locker room to was that you do what you do here. You get paid.

That's it.

I think that's neat. You know very well now but there would be we would never be that he became the player it if everyone was able to observe and I called warring lifestyle of the 350 days in between those game might basically dedicate hours in the day getting better at his trade and pace, but not many people can't keep going on the long same to you last see how town let's connect soon. Enjoy the next couple days of the camp and and in the summer before the ring ceremony was that when he got appointment.

I haven't been given the invite yet but I think it later if you live a hard date. Well, crash that like OBJ okay great. Maybe you know I'm looking for cake that's all just takes the cake. That said, I'm just doing take care yourself less to be well: thank you anytime, let's see here on the rich is told you he was in. Take care. There's a church bells going out the let's take a break Michael checklist maybe will find out as he did he bring his dog or did he know we do we know we don't we don't know. You will either be jobless or ill be here either way, we love Michael checklist we come back. Does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day.men plus your dry spray goes on instantly drive for a cleaner field, and offers 48 hours sweat and order protection repeat that 48 hours of sweat.

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Try.men plus care dry spray goes on dry cleaning field all day. Michael checklist here are terrestrial radio and just returned and now we just show us you saw a clip of winning time and you know, I know there's a lot of question about the history and what's real and what's not. But what is real was just the experience of watching the show and watching it be acted the way that it was shot. The way that it was ending and the seams with you and John see Riley. He was as red are back a lot coming because as you know, the rivalry against her in the right question about a sense that seem right there really sets the pick for the rivalry between the ownership of the people in charge and that it went from the top down. It was a real true rivalry not just between the players. It was everybody you know. So when you dressed as our back for the first time. Okay, so where were they picked out whatever you know horse blanket if you will, is late 70 sport coat and they put the back here on you and you had the still damning way you think of when you look in the mirror for the first time I click look at that right now. Right now, here I think that certain characters that you place you know certain characters you approach from the inside out.

These are active terms but in some you go from the outside it and with in this case was definitely the outside in, because as soon as like you say. Once I got that wardrobe and the stogie had and then the Brooklyn. Next thing you know the areas you not, it really was exciting again. I grew up in Boston and my father used to scream about him. He loved were now you read stopped coaching I believe was in 66 and I was a kid I was three years old but he was always it was ever present, especially when he was the president of the team is just around. He was always there you couldn't miss the crowd.

You couldn't miss that guy you say 70s costuming. That's I didn't know anybody you dressed like that. Then he was unique. Even then, with those he was just gaudy and audacious and can you imagine and assassinate someone light up a study with three minutes left to go absently everywhere like what you dear how dear what about when one of the fence you know and then you hear all the stories you know the windows being glued shut turned exactly measure first take the next day so that our back show up his opponents lighting a cigar right yeah really as an actor. This is just I'm just the man engineered it up you chewed the scene with scenes with you and John see Riley together like a lot of fantastic actors in the role of two pop-culture iconic individuals that you would never think would be portrayed on a TV show Reich and then again the scene where one of the first things you mentioned Jason's restaurant here in Los Angeles where boss is wining and dining read our back thinking that you could be the same type of markets everybody else in his life where you know women and that sort of allure of LA lifestyle would be able you be reeled in his right back and no like you're the adult who just wants to win and ripped his heart out and you essentially telling him that I watch that scene three times just really good again like you know everything starts in the page right hand. I have to say Max Bornstein. He served for men. This writer really really talented and you don't get dialogue like this you know that so that what I can when I read that scene. I just went out okay. Did I get to get this in on top of the Jonah Hill directed the episode is at right now is right that episode was hilarious and of itself is coming just just just the directions that he gave me are just just terrify him right now is to come over, whispered my son John. See Riley was in here yesterday. Yes, and here's the terrorism we had was just a fun process really really talented and from everybody. Everybody DP everybody is really really good and and Celtics are up next in the story will not talk about now, but back in the day that Retin-A right there next in the store they win next if I'm not mistaken we after we just watch the Lakers win, and magic is the MVP Celtics are up next magic gets hurt. Then Riley comes in and I can't wait for the scene when when Adrian Brody finally flicks his hair in the Armani suit. You know that is becoming yeah right so when just one last question on this when you start shooting when does this happen when I was shooting my understanding is late August or early September back back at yeah yeah and that one of the satin we come down shuttle behind the scene.

We hold it and got their own BTS thing that we can try and go so you really don't ask for it to get cigars back to get the whole thing back and well you know I have to say I'm a little concerned about the cigars decided to quit smoking cigars. 20 years ago. She was with a real cigars know how they have they have a tobacco wrapper but it's it's a cacophony of crap inside it. It tastes like the bottom of the shoe is not okay to know what you want to know it's horrible but they make me smoking on top of that they have me half and that sucker is probably smoking cigarette cigarette. You can even hear it burning like you could hear the cigarettes burning is no going on all now and you know I love the way they shoot it though and like five different format just really give you sent to the. The feel of it. I love everything about the way to make a showing where I can see where it's going and Max's told me some things about while you guys are loved.

I can't swear really have enjoyed them again.

We know that you know for certain LA Lakers in this town are very happy with their portrayals and things of that nature, but it is incredibly entertaining.

I've enjoyed every single minute of it. When you come on the screen. Just knowing you and knowing how much you love the Celtics and like you are me, this will really write what he said now where we are in the files consulted on time and why you went about my rich eyes and show winning time on HBO and HBO Max that you gotta love the fact again because I know you are who you are and your role in the show who you are and relax. The fact that the Lakers are not winning the Celtics and I said Mike Max of the cell the Lakers doing anything fancy in the Celtics on me again just this is a really good squad and they have chemistry, you know this. We talked about this so many teams you look at them on paper and they should be able to win it all and it's really the thing to me that defines the greatest of teams. This is like always six or eight teams that could do it right, but it's the one that that with the chemistry between the players is just electric you like those knucklehead 2004 Red Sox.

They just had a going on the dugout demeanor was we see that kind of camaraderie you interesting game the other day. It was almost as if they were happy to take the first game because no one had a good game with you. And there, a deep team and no one none of their God. Everybody sort of was almost like fish collectively took the second half off. They just sort of backed off a bit. Did not feel well. I mean, Stephen a Smith was even saying afterwards and that was an unfortunate error on their part, because he let the warriors back in.

You could put your standby I mean I don't disagree with that, you know greed is good to use the Gordon gecko phrase that is in sports that you you if you can. If you can be greedy. Go ahead and degrading, but that when but again it it the fact that they took game one which they weren't very good and historically this this playoffs, but they did do well on the road. That was huge is no question about it and had to say this but that he did that to us to write and in similar fashion so I just am a big believer, you don't take your foot off the neck of a champion you just got a generation and and you know I mean that and then your Brady patriots showed that over and over and over again so but but really what's so great about being a sports fan when when you believe in your team and you have that pride in your team but it's part of you knows the team socket to be very good coming in the season, or you you you're hoping for something good to happen.

And then the team doesn't perform very well in the beginning and just catches and shows camaraderie and chemistry and a heart. Yeah that that's where you love your team and Celtics team is exactly that any we've seen like Cardinals teams in baseball come on strong in the second half of the season we seen the Cubs do that to other things that do that but the cell.

This this is gotta be just one of the more I really enjoy it to the chemistry them, catching fire, and that someone and I think my instinct is it's it's smart and big Al played a big role in the locker room right now you know is the veteran, he salty's been around, and I think he's got some things to say but smart seems to he. She seems to be really super passionate is really gotten it.

I really think the evolution of Smart as a player and a leader you really see me this year. I think you really needed a guy like a made a command and Connor bring that out of yeah I've been awesome is been amended.

I think he's been amazing really undecided about the locker room chemistry and and you know I mean he's been great on the court.

There's no question about it, but that's that X factor than talk about a guy who seems to extract the best out of the black guys around him.

I listen I'm not in the locker room so I don't know who's your soup that's just my instinct in terms of whose doing what any plans to go in these games. I'm hoping to go to game six but now there's a bunch of work stuff that that is come up.

Nothing to complain about any of that course. But if what you say it's game 6C to get to go and you do get to go to that arena and there's three minutes to go do your take on the second stage is now I have no idea do you take a second I fire it up. That's probably dense code in that town.

I don't know if one of 20 you have to know what, what's the point totally kick you out. You don't think so. You could say auntie, don't you, you know now you know you should go in full, lower back, saying you mercilessly. I'm thinking I can't do that. He's as it is I'm pushing the line on Twitter you know you know I mean, I'm having fun with you is amazing. I mean, to think that life is amazing because you know so many great successes in your career, Michael, but the fact that you play our back on a hit show, just as the Celtics catch fire and make the NBA finals and potentially start.

I mean like you made this like is yachts to waterski behind with your patriots and the Red Sox winning four times and breaking the curse. I mean, this is Conseil Shireman and all their money and this is what has been incredible mean my daughters were saying like you tell me about right arm back and you know what like honey, they burned his name on the parquet floor. You know I mean the statue sitting on a bench with a foot-long cigar and Bostic bearing his name on the morning and they lived in Los Angeles I forbade them from being like parenting, I was sick that I said there's no one in my house that say the words go Lakers in earnest knocking is fine right like a sarcastic. I remember how I when I met Magic Johnson we would do an Italian food the NBA with the fantastic four.

There was the fantastic four versus magic he walked into the gym where we should miss this commercial for three days.

I went you mother and I swore I did and he burst out laughing with this right here is Celtics guy and we laugh and he was a gentleman and couldn't bend a more gracious and amazing and then he started to regale me with all these incredible stories about he and bird. Look at those guys is the quintessential sort of the old warriors that you know they've survived all the wars now they have no one else to relate to, but each other you know that that the gladiators you know that's the way it felt listening to him and I went into my trailer at the end of the three days there were five signed basketballs on my desk.

My trailer and known ass. I didn't ask him to do that. It was really, really love when you signed a bunch of basketballs left mama and my trailer which was lovely to so I mean he's a class act and was incredible. It was funny to be able to swear and I said to them, magic people think of my voice is scratchy because I smoked or something, it's from screaming at you minutes from O and screaming to be heard at my dinner table. You know his Greeks were were loud but and I told him the nicknames for all the Lakers from that time that we had like worthless.

I do know that Spike and again meant that those playing in winning time. One of my favorite lines of this was from the scene mentions a couple times in the show. So for her listening and viewing audience apologist repeating where were were John C.

Rallies Jerry Buss is talking to Jerry West to have this character's conversation about which coaches you can stick with which grazing is going to go back you note to McKinney or singing a stick with West had an and Riley and he asks Jerry West for help yours. I got I don't want any part of this conversation is going to stick me with what you if I'm wrong I can stick with me not and he tells them Buss like I'm asking about him even asking my priest West line is like auto asking. He's probably Celtics that made me laugh out loud but I was on a plane watching it come about from that dark and I laughed out because that's exactly use cursing at Magic Johnson, reminding them about all the nicknames back in the day and that sort of sports spite is another thing that we love as well as sky Max Borenstein. What a great writer. The tile is just crackled. She leaps off the page and again you know as an actor, you that's what you're always looking for is great storytelling and insightful and you know that we look for truths in storage. I know it's not about like people always have the sort of missed number of all your grade actually must be a great liar. It's not true it's not true you looking for the truth in whatever story you're telling and people can discern what's true and what's not sided you're comfortable and we appreciate your nothing intelligent so you're telling a story. I like it so good it's all gonna try to typically actually do you have fewer minutes to stick around.

Okay, very good.

Because when we come back. I want to talk about Tom Brady and I want to ask you how your dogs doing because I miss you Don okay okay very good microchip. This is here on the recharge and show also want to talk about the Red Sox that's coming up next on the here and now showed a video from five years ago man chick was being here with his pug TB 12 patriot now because you don't know how somebody Tom Brady. The pug is awesome yeah the little jilted with regard to the real time all when when the head fake retirement happened and I understand why you think he took that as an opportunity to circle the wagons. All of a sudden Tom's phone without and I am no longer on that phone list all jilted like you like a 14 year type. He tightened the not inner circle. We gotta get you breaking news there that said no knows my gosh from Maui. We have direct that's that's good to be calling games for 10 years when she's done playing with the way he does things. 45 is already looking good is still for 3 to 4 symbols clear of any other being the race that that's that way he could win another one I know he could win another one twice part of the reason why scumbag coming.

I think it's entirely possible he ripped with the tips video of his underwear and moments I tried to much time to do much to the empty tomb is subduing week doing not talk about the Red Sox at all like Bruno. It's been like this for months my time on swimming comes in every day. How many games ever.

When so passive-aggressive and no socks in the 15 in a row which is amazing. 506 and around Savannah gained a single again in that front and went straight back over the loss time and I were, I hate this is my seventh consent is dead is talking two or three injuries were down for me think this is documents okay it's it's it's it's something that I'm reveling in every single day I'm speaking it into existence.

Here is your manifesting your manifesting me and he understands the nature of baseball your manifesting three more wins to go in the front of your manifesting your manifesting your manifesting every day since January and the season baseball season is closer to the beginning and the end not Scott over manifesting series with his friends like I give underperforming a new meaning, which is fair is no question Eric, so I thought it was still plain spring-training enjoyed. It was good to the trained you okay you like this is I might it's terrifying for any pitcher to stand in front of that lineup. You know I mean I is Sears and I'm like the cigar before halftime is over same. Right now it's really I think you really want to know how to just have time hasn't happened yet in the second quarter, and you will find out. Red would've done that, not a fired up Mike stop Michael Law and order, and you know in case you got the got the accent. I learned that the race on the mattress of the rich doing going tonight. Want to get on Anaheim's life. You know, you know, I don't think there's okay.

I was thinking Thursday. Actually, the event on Thursday yeah okay. Enjoy that the Angels of lost. How many room billings 12 all gone to sleep on his not looking the Yankees as the team to be put on the throw a curveball adjuration. Okay I been saying since the beginning of the season really is in our division the team to look at is the Toronto Blue Jays just in the day Dave got pitching for the first time in God knows when yes and they got some chemistry in that dugout like I talk about these guys love each other and can hit man. They can take it to last night absolutist kids.

Laddie is terrifying matter and he reminds me a man yes… Goofiness to transit. I hear you and the Yankees beat them three or four in April before's we bring the two of three in May that swept and they swept them in May as well so yeah that's great and I am keeping you awake no no no. I'm just I'm just saying.

All right, not saying anything. What you doing is he talking around stuff. So if you talk about saying is there's a canyon that's that heroes going on and and and on the whole bunch of confetti and no time to throw a boat you might be a duck boat by next week go by next week we could basketball a listen I know because we took off next in babies Golden State Warriors kinship man in there, really really heavily skilled and I don't know.

I would put my foot on the gas 50-50 wasn't a 50-50 exactly, is 5250 yeah I was right. No question. Even got down to six. I know it reminds me, I hate to even make these analogies, but the 2011 when the Bruins so that the Toronto Maple Leafs took their foot off of the Boston Bruins back and we scored five goals in the last five minutes of the third. I remember that when you when you plain a champion you don't let them out. You have to finish that know it sounds like it was at a line from a winning time at the man right there to finish the media yeah you have to finish them and go into into a defensive posture. You have to keep you have to finish them well. It's really cute that you guys are discussing based on right now there are show for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all, opponents. Much of the conversation wears on a motion on there was number one is not even going back before you know it was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in headline the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen to everything your podcast