REShow: Alan Shipnuck - Hour 2

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04 Rich 844-204-7424 is like you're the dime you can order practice all day long. It doesn't matter if it's midnight, it's eight at night you get that one talks more baseball by all means, on the phone line Baseball chili Otani orange on the golf world rattled by live and how they are competing against the PGA Tour and they have the funding to do so. In fact, they are richer than the PGA Tour $600 billion of Saudi money backing the two as badly even the top 50 players in the world have now signed on to play live and have given up playing in the PGA Allen shipment author of eight books including Phil, that's making a lot of noise right now. We talk about Phil Mickelson joining us here on the show Allen first off, I got to tell you ma'am that book is made a lot of noise and not only that I I love falling on social media. Nothing funnier than the whole Greg Norman thing of the goons trying to kick out the torn and him claiming he didn't know a thing about it in the picture you have of him actually standing there, what's come of all this to continue the kinda get slightly harassed by them well, but making Portland second on the live golf schedule that will be reviewing the material get turned down a little bit served or harassing journal will chew on Branford golf circuit funded by the Saudi.

I'm expecting warmer lucky but funny mix of personality in the world of joint but molecular PGA Tour display or impact program measure the social media reach and more or less the popularity of metric for the top joint live guide not performing on the golf course in the last six or 12 month like I got no pricing to sample whatever servers were breaking a slip great live is really corner the market on personality version posture from some other work you come up with a very interesting mix of larger-than-life golf personality and of course the front man Greg Morgan about category. Phil all the right outsourcing is the news event and sporting you might have to create another guy last meal as well may not be beloved. What exactly is somebody cameras like to obviously go up to. Here's the thing.

The last talk your friend about this recently you had other leagues emerged to try to rival other major sports in America right USF X, FL. Name the different leagues they just don't seem to have the funding. The difference here is live has not just funding actually have more money than the actual PGA Tour in your mind for what they've done in such a short period of time should Jay Monahan, the Commissioner of the PGA Tour and the tour itself be incredibly nervous about their future.

They clearly are known to build USF unit hundred hundred hundreds of players right right golf you only need a handful of maybe a dozen stars that's better than the field with the Bob Hope where I wanted to turn so much lower barrier of entry and become players are not having long-term teaching contract call me on the tour trying to see if that will look at court really makes sense if you're going to trial and change sport landscape golf target so now that the tour is rightfully worried. I'm very much a threat to the financial model, the PGA Tour long-term Valley Hall of Famer media chapter printers and the public attention to, but also recorded next generation starting on the signed US amateur champ made Dick run college players with you. Live golf start to choke off pipeline of talent I mean. I don't ever try shuffling one.

I will break on her: how going down the list. Every sport is the cost of producing mentoring new stars so it's one thing for Saudi to take no guys who were near the end of her career box office, but are not competitive forces we could be out. They also simultaneously sucking up all the really good young players, college in Europe that is an extra special threat to the survival PGA Tour, so there are rightfully worried Peter headquarters joining us on survey books including sale which is obvious in making a lot of noise these days see on the Rich Eisen show dance with me in for Rich Allen. You know it's come out over the last few days that Jay Monahan had an opportunity to kinda nip this in the bud when he is approached by some player saying look, let's do this. Let's offer you this will offer some torments that we control and that will probably end any sort of outside interference from something called live, which is at that point, I guess. Just an idea and at that time a few years back. He said not, don't think it's a real threat and turn them down to is this true reading and to if so, is Jane my job on the line here because he obviously misread this whole thing. Yeah, I mean. A miscalculation biggest one, the through line of all this is overrating the pigeon Tory value to the players and I think that the tour had a certain arrogance about it like we've always been here. We've been a great platform for you guys are not which can keep leak out a little more money. In fact, the tormentor doesn't mean much in thought a good file popularity for announcing the membership. Monahan was very strident like you were the good guys bad guys so we started negotiating Winterville knighting the other side also try to go to the table and try new middle which I think a term I have to do eventually so yeah decision denying engagement Saudi effort and was also this parallel court of turning up the ground.

The premier Copley Brian you know the tour not not really understand what that could mean and to try and co-opt Monahan's predecessor was a lawyer and political strategist Norman 30 years will not have this idea for a world tour intentions are stolen and creditable golf jump ship.

The present cup and no norms and on the street decade cam no campaign for vengeance. Essentially no Monahan could have done something analogous but she kinda shrank from the moment I think he was a little complacent and because the tour and never really competition is a live in actual fighting and showing an in-house flat-footed a bit in their response and uncreative they didn't trying to respond to this threat will be Monahan's job is on the line all the studies pump all his money to his players is definitely the moment finding The Commissioner given them now probably be so that the war is not over keep going. The legal challenges and wrangling always intrigued with European tour and tour where the trip so plenty of moves left on the chest right Monahan and off to a great start. Nice really not off to a great start, and I think you're being kind by Jim in the deicing. People just left. At this point because of the fact that he's kind of allowed this to fester bring up an interesting point a couple days go in that press conference where he kinda showed his vulnerability and in acknowledging that this is a serious threat mentioned like what's the motivation for the Saudi's here Allen do we actually know because they're paying 100, $200 million bonuses to players they're losing their shirt at this point is is I can make this money back mean financially. This doesn't seem to make sense. What's the motivation will work washing right through his reputation laundering want to be accepted on the world stage when I just saw the heavyweight boxing matches going over Saturday regrettably could really care about boxing but you can you can bring people over there. The more you can be part of the conversation. Globally I went to the first live event in London and thinking what a guy who runs the public investment fund for Saudi Arabia, which has $600 and not an elected official with terminals powerful men in the world and he was just wandering around you so happy good of the players are gapping about the skin hugs from Norman economic shout out.

You know that the term of the sunscreen club which is really a very private, ruling class establishment for the London leak and despite all the conflict can have a lot of Saudi members right thing for that.

This guy was the toast of the town and he was there with his show was being celebrated everywhere he went and that's with the Saudi rate is accepted and they wanted they want to penetrate the highest levels of society in the Western world even while doing things their own way that the notion the oxen written lately, like, well, you just may be interested go in your tooth if you thought, his Excellency swatting around the censoring club. You know that they are very happy with the money they spent in this investment means so much because it's all the legitimacy and an acceptance and their buying it through sports and really what this is all about very transactional and you know to pump you wind up spending on this thing $1 billion.

Primerica spent the last couple days on gas like there so I think it's clear that there there there getting what you want and therefore there is no reason to think that anytime soon, lollipop, about 80 more dollars to their way tomorrow and I thought my tank so that the next golfers bonus last question Allen can these two in your mind you been around for a long time 25 years was wordlessly covering the sport can came to competing big-money successful tours live side-by-side or is this going to end up being one's got a merge over the other problem is only 10 golfers in the world anybody cares about that not enough star power to go around to split up between two tours in both software you I live in California my hometown of Benton Crosby clambake can really get get three big names every year. Phil Dr. Johnson and George speak that's it.

And now the terms lot through them that have a major impact on the enthusiasm locally. AT&T was fluffy that they cannot be happy you know you look at it.

That context is really hard for two weeks to prosper and depart. Imagine, given the level of rhetoric, all the lines drawn in the sand here, but I believe the best move for everyone for the PGA Tour to absorb the Saudi events, and you make analyses use big-money events of the fall.

I got the perfect place to slot them in and it would've been a win for everyone and that the players get even bigger money that the tour would end this accidental threat and how you get curriculum for good creeks is legitimate welcomed into the Gulf also. I still think like that is possible.

It can I, kinda, you know.

Holder knows a little bit. Neither side has much respect for each other but I mean it would live events are interesting as new events but not competition. Nobody really cares about the golf so you have to wonder how long that sustainable is no one heart is really in the competition from the sand on the players from the apprentice and I do not.

I think they could they could leverage what they have. To get what they really want, which is acceptance in the tort secures long-term future to get all the players back in the fold to get all the influx of money.

Unfortunately, it's the source of the money because a lot of tanks but there is a bargain have to be creative, but otherwise both organizations are going to keep take their book the suffering of others, none the players were around to make all the term is interesting is that the two different tours you highlighted Phil Mickelson. Obviously the biggest names who has crossed over the biggest thing to crossover with the Brooksville Street unit anywhere. Allen starts flying off the shelves great publicity with that book and after what Amazon any of the big booksellers any of the local stores have it right.

I was trying to go to the bookstore because the great hit so hard by Cogan are struggling to survive but pressure, Amazon, Barnes & Noble diverts anywhere you like about as I read the audible version of the fund challenge and… More into audiobooks and I think the reason is the level of passion investment are interested not as yet exactly that's all I agreed to go to local books of store here in New York at a strand of course places like that support the locals for sure Allen ship Nick, author of eight books including Phil, longtime dogfight with SI Allen appreciate the time my friends and I have a great weekend. Awesome stuff. There Allen ship yet Phyllis made our Martinez applicant has really caused a lot of waves there and expose the truth of Mickelson that a lot of people never want to see over the years. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Very, very interesting topic. There is no way to get more and sit next to first every golf equipment company claims to be longer off the T tallies the rogue ST driver is the only one built to completely bonnet. It's been speak soon to be Callaway's fastest, most stable driver ever. Every robust use engineer with the new tungsten speed cartridge which gives you more speed on off-center hits and provides more forgiveness thanks to high MOI but that's just the beginning because Callaway has engineered a rogue ST for every player most offers will fit into the max because of its incredible combination of distance and forgiveness. But there's also Max D there dedicated draw model for players who need more shot shake correction out if you need something more low spin this max LS, which gives you stronger trajectory with a more neutral ball flight for the true players out there. The rogue ST triple diamond. LSD is the contact low spin had that the tour players love Callaway has both thighs thought through every aspect the speed so all you have to do is go rogue find a rogue stdriver@callawaygolf.com/go road tell you why this is going to backfire on the PGA Tour with them announcing more money more events, more lymph type of issues with smaller fields and marquee prize money why it's actually going to hurt them that they're doing that that's not your thoughts as well. 844204 Ridge 844-204-7424 audience was delivery guys on a Friday edition of the rich ice.

One thing Saudi no guys your career path office not competitive forces we can also simultaneously suck up all the really good young college in Europe that is an extensive threat to the survival PGA Tour, so there are rightfully worried Allen ship, author of eight books including one that's making a lot of noise now.

Bill is going to see on the rich ice and show dance with 15 4-H on a beautiful Friday again a couple weeks we come here Thursday and Friday looking those two days. PGA Tour keep shooting himself in the foot.

Here's the problem that I have with it. They just came out a couple days going announce that they are going to increase prize money on eight existing events, adding a few events I believe may be upwards of four where they can use the live format which is smaller fields, no cards and larger prize money.

That's great.

But if the PGA Tour player. I'm actually upset and here's why it took them having competition for them to open the purse more and pay out more right, meaning they have the money. They were just withholding the money prior now it's like oh yeah we have to compete because there is a real threat here actually offer you more money. My answer is awesome. But where was this money before.

The whole point is you want to keep you guys happy right the product is in the PGA Tour. The product is a golfer's right to independent contractors is what they are not teams like a interchangeable team where you can change at the point guard of the first basement of the quarterback where the goalie now this is this is golf independent guys there flying out renting a place to stay for a week, whatever it might be and they're playing in there putting their own money on the line to try to win more money for the PGA Tour document so you can increase prize money at events I would've said well why did it take the live series for you to do that where the product where the reason why things come out to watch, not you. You're just the organization.

So why did this money suddenly appear and not be there before if you had maybe been paying us more and have larger prize amounts. Maybe there never would have been a secondary type of league striving to take over. So while it sounds great to me. If I'm a golfer a little upset by this date been holding out. You see the point here are like.

It sounds great that you're working to give you more money. Which wheezing and sitting on the spot money before and not giving it to us before hand.

I didn't think that anybody was going to rival them.

Yes, but now you find out as a member the PGA Tour that this money and they kind of increase prize money prior but they didn't. It's a competition for them to do that absolutely so paying handsomely and yeah I mean pro golfers if you're a good one. You're making me see a great living in your making money on the course, you may get some money off the course lots as an independent contract.

I want to make as much money as possible well over people say Dustin Johnson need another $200 million is really making a lot of money. That's like the dumbest thing anybody can say because no one regardless of how rich you are, is turning down $200 million if I'm making $15 million a year, and I'm not, but if I was close so close enough 14 nine but some is waving 200 million that still life changing money you're living quite the large life anyway, but you and your it's not like your building bridges or digging a ditch you're playing a game so you want to throw $20 million larger prize money and more opportunities to win money because is no cards close to know you buddies rich enough. He doesn't need the money to say that Dustin Johnson doesn't need the money he's already lifestyle anyway. Gretzky has an expensive lifestyle for making 1520 making the bottom-line link used 10 more million dollars in funding to say really duty only for 10 million is leaving for $200 million you don't see is that absolute and this is America, you can make as much is one tell Dustin Johnson know turn it down because you have to state PGA Tour plea for $200 million where I sign. He won his major errors playing major is not because of legacy the play majors and try to win because of the money why guys want to make the cuts they play two more days and they make money because are independent contractors.

So somebody throws you $200 million in pricing.

The shambles case.

$100 million.

You don't say thanks but no thank you. See, where do I sign in the arrogance of golf fans tell these guys usually the money, anybody can use that kind of money regardless what you have your bank account to your grandkids are set up nice and of their grandkids how you got enough money just as Elon musk or Jeff Beezus need more money. Why not, when did you get right when you got Out how much money you can have were supposed to have or not a communist society absolute no no I love that argument Dustin Johnson's greedy ready has enough money says who what's enough money when you start making that kind of money you live a high lifestyle which means you need more money to support it.

It's that simple. I mean come on it's it's I love some okay so you make 50 grand. Good for you to make 50 grand. You have the $50,000 lifestyle and next thing you know you get another job and they're paying you 200 grand. I dare you to find me the guy who doesn't then increase his lifestyle as it pertains to something making 200 grand, compared to 50 grand. Very few people keep living the 50 grand lifestyle for making 200 grand right everybody looks to upgrade to get a nicer car will get a bigger place. It's human nature correct and then if you go from Georgia grantor million dollars.

You probably don't keep living the lifestyle the 200 grand to live the lifestyle the million dollars so for Dustin Johnson making a good amount of money he lives a lifestyle that costs money. That house in Florida is in a three bed two bath house with half an acre you want to say it's a gated community on the golf course and is probably back to bed. Nine bathrooms and then he got the house elsewhere and you want to place an aspirin go by the place and asked me if you can afford it.

If you have a way to maintain your lifestyle because some is $20 million UA to leave the PGA Tour by all means get not to take it. It's honestly that simple.

Don't put yourself in somebody else's financial shoes. I think we do that way too often when it comes to professional athletes or business people. We seem to want to dictate how they should live their life and on what budget whom I did tell anybody how they should live their life financially. I'm not inserting myself in their lifestyle, though it said a young age. I would love to insert myself into Derek Jeter's lifestyle fund that must be like. Imagine being the king of like New York, New York love by New York okay so take that as hated by like Los Angeles and everywhere else like the king of LA, Clayton Kershaw.

Maybe that's Freddie Freddie Freeman that's new about the guy was having the legacy that is like being beloved well say what's in them just want to Super Bowl Matt Stafford and Stansel year it's you know how Aaron, Donna (Darren Donna has got a huge contract. Yeah let's Aaron.Mike.I don't know if you sing one of those marital status essays a single do right with a ton of money and he still young guys 129, 30 years old, like imagine hanging out with Aaron Donald in LA for a night where money is not an issue right you want to go to the club to go to the club. By the way you get into any club you want without having to wait in line. You want a bottle service that the other $5000 Bala Cristal and the copy Compu anyway and be if they don't what's a $5000 Bala Cristal for Aaron. Donald is making 40 million bucks right you can afford it place to think.

As a youngster like man imagine like hanging out Derek Jeter's May 9 19 not the type of course making lines and endorsements like a single guy owning New York City as he said he's probably count everything doesn't have to wait in the line goes to a club shows up to let a man VIP section. The young ladies are swooning over him right good looking like imagine that. Imagine that lifestyle man. I can imagine it like that ever lived. It went to stores about him and Jeter in a rut going out together yeah they use to so use my best friends until A-Rod had that article is that jealousy article.

I forgot what publication where he said I could. Jeter wasn't in the he's overrated. He wasn't in New York they would look at in the same way, things yeah that's right after that that anger cheated where their friendship was never the same and rightfully so me. He's your friend should be talking bad about you, especially publicly, but they used to be buddies because G1 Jeter was drafted by the Yankees I believe is a year before A-Rod went number one overall and leading up to that draft when understood and read was that A-Rod kind of reached out through his agent to Jeter and they start a dialogue became really good friends.

And when the Mariners would play in New York you actually stay at your place when the Yankees would play in Seattle I Jeter was state.

A-Rod's place late, hang out and party and go out and out too good looking young guys lot of money in the town you know lot of fun and obvious after A-Rod told that in the article sure jealousy again that complete change in just type a guy for understand that if you cross him, you cannot get back like you do something to lose his trust, you cannot regain the trust and that happened to A-Rod therefore spending franchise and it is a Friday here on the rich eyes and show got any thoughts give a test 844204 rich that's 844-204-7424 20 comes out again and you know it all stemmed from you. Talking to people trying tell Dustin Johnson I should take the money. This guy don't take the money. But it's fascinating.

I'm not a big golf guy. Let me throw that out there when it comes to golf. I made Tiger Woods for okay I am not a golf fan so when Tiger is not playing in a U.S. Open or a PGA championship or whatever it may be.

Honestly, I don't really watch. I don't really have a thought on Scotty Scheffler. I've always thought Phil Mickelson is a guy that's the love for really the wrong reasons I never understood why people love Phil so much. I was at this time of the phoniness there and you're seeing it now you know Tiger is the reason why I would actually watch golf. I was always fascinated by his abilities the way that he would transcend the sport the way that he was a legit generational talent. It's a term we thought around way too much these days and other sports right on this Kaiser generational talent know is not right. Most guys are not generational talents that we say are generational talents Tiger Woods woods is legitimately a generational talent. So he's always what kind of drew me that golf, but as a sports fan who has watched you know I was young when the USFL came around I was too young to follow sports watching the X FL and all these other little leagues pop up right that tried to somewhat compete with the big boys and of course never had the financing to do it so they couldn't do it, and ultimately either just kinda stayed as a minor-league novelty type a thing or ended up folding after couple years because they were making any money. No one was showing up. The games no Fannie's in the stands.

The TV deals were nowhere worth continuing to play for and they would fold.

What's fascinating watching this PGA Tour versus live LI fee is the fact that you actually have a rival league that financially can compete with that major league, which is the PGA Tour industry money in the commission of the PGA Tour said it is going to the PGA Tour can't financially compete with because when you have a monarchy spending has the ability to access $600 billion. OPEC money OPEC money. Literally it states states you know gold with black gold money if they have the ability to access $600 billion as much money as the PGA Tour may have guessed what they're not even remotely close financially in terms of what they are able to access is live is so I'm sitting back in his watching a prize fight like this is like a heavyweight brawl.

This is like those boxing matches that unfortunately are too rare to see the top two dogs of a division actually fight each other right like fury.

Wilder guys like that. Rarely do you have the best of the best in each weight class fighting each other exist too much politics involved here you have a case where you literally have a champion in the PGA Tour. That's a heavyweight Tyson it's Tyson you're right and then you have this upstart and this is in a Buster Douglas one and done type upstart real like I got lucky and it's never happen again. And that was a case of Buster Douglas right he beats Tyson what happens. He gets a little ritual fat and you can't win after that is not doubt any little he did get but I think it is like the bottom line is you're looking at a heavyweight fighter that has emerged very quickly.

That is now gonna step into the ring with Mike Tyson and is equipped to do so. I think the best way to put it are quick to write. But here's the thing I their rises quicker than Holyfield's rise to stardom there there there like their rise to stardom is New York. I mean where were they a year ago there a concept right now their reality. Maybe it's just vanity project is at this point concerning the just not again acknowledged Allen Shipley the best ways like luck.

It's not the golf people watching at this point right it's everything else. The actual golf is anything spectacular. Not care who wins a live series know you wanted sites like watching wrestling and knowing its fate, but you love the dialogue and you love the drama and the storylines you're not watching live for the actual match going on in the ring who gets soup lacks this and that no one cares. Your watching for that guy on the micros yelling to Vince McMahon or AAA to the big show. Whatever might be. That's what you're watching. Or maybe it's your watching a train wreck your thinking is about to go off the rails here, but it's gonna be fun watching, but how often have we had a competitor that actually has a financial ability and backing to take out the big dog and maybe live can do that. The PGA ID NHL Skelly.

The final could be coming later tonight in Denver Colorado Avalanche up three games to one on the offending Stanley Cup champions have of a lightning should be in enforcement franchise is a Friday.

This right here. The rich eyes and show no final game number five tonight I was final in the NBA finals about hockey just at the awards and all I first of all hockey here is is alive and well. Nothing like hockey here. It's the modern-day mullet. I guess his back today hockey.

There was an actual mullet. Now it's like kind of a cooler versions like the rock 'n' roll long hair right like the wrestlers sting long hair when he was cool resting person like Spike to be chemically to guide us, like wearing all black and leather and he had the long hair that's like the new hockey here, but I love the names of the awards is not just the MVP award right, it's the Hart trophy as a trophy nor a halter trophy nor exactly.

So like Jack Adams. It's very British sounding right you take on the Jack Adams award in the you know is awesome I love it. The Presidents cup nice had the best record in the league did it would snow you get the Presidents.

I love it. I like how you know I'm a hockey guy, really. Maybe it's because I'm an East Coast guy don't know but I do like hockey everything. I'm a Ranger fan unhappy with the direction of my team because the rebuild is gone much quicker and anticipate what I further than everybody thought when you have the best goalies can happen and he's doing 25, 26 years old just one of that's enough, and is committed for 10 years so you know, think they can win 10 years with the Igor sister Ken, but you don't tonight to be interesting because it's game five. It's in Colorado you never want to count out the Tampa Bay Lightning. They are down three games to one. But you don't want to count them out, they did lose the first two games the series in Denver looking to is much closer.

Ford was a 43 I think, for a three-game 1-7 nothing game to but there too time defending champions and you start to wonder. You know the Rangers gave Tampa Bay a run for their money and it was a six-game series, but every game was brutal. Every game really kinda came down to the wire is over times. I mean it was it was an intense series, and the Rangers I think kinda ran out of steam because they played seven-game series prior right with Pittsburgh and Carolina. Whatever days they just can't write can't take 6 to 7. Each round I think like 20 games and 4020 games in 40 days or something you and I think Tampa Bay in a six-game series. The Rangers member that first swept out the Florida Panthers series before and they started off flat against the Rangers but then I think the Rangers, worked in for six games. Meanwhile, Edmonton, swept out Edmonton for games so they were the more well rested team heading into the Stanley Cup final and I think it's showing you know you're laboring at this point played over 100 games right right around the hundred games.

You gotta be laboring and any other time. If you told me my gonna take Darcy Kemper Ingold or Micah take Andre that Slutsky you would clearly say that Slutsky's a better goalie Zaleski looks window and he does not look like a superstar goalie yes if you if you go around the league is the best only hockey Ossetia stearic and because he's only done it really for this year and he sure flashes the year before USA Andre basilisk is the best goalie in hockey well is 12 straight Stanley Cup. So he's a good answer, but he's not playing great hockey right now. In fact, is not really outplaying Darcy Kemper Darcy Kemper is not the same classes Andre that Slutsky but it doesn't matter because I think when you're playing a brutal sport like hockey and people forget the average shift time when the guys on the ice is under two minutes 45 seconds to a minute, sometimes even less so. As these guys go out there and exert unbelievable amounts of energy going up and down the ice, stopping on a dime getting right back to full speed, stopping on a dime. Will Colorado be Colorado so good that they got so much to speed. They rule four lines that they do. They do conjure those outcomes and scores when angle you know that's why there's a resident and they they rule four lines there so good there so deep, but I think a tempest really good to look at the star parent Tampa Victor Hedman is a Hall of Fame caliber player in Stephen Santos will be Hall of Fame five is goal six on the go score when it's all said and done trough is a start praying points been banged up. He's a really good player right Andre pion Palazzo good player, there's a lot there's so much talent between these two teams right now. It's unbelievable right that the two best. Clearly, the two best teams yet NHL. You can actually watch this and save yourself you are watching the two best teams in the league. No one snuck in. That wasn't deserving look at the Rangers had one you can say a lot of talent on that team. Hats off to the right. But in terms of who actually are the two best teams in hockey are watching them right now. Star power for both teams just absolute studs and great players. And that's why they're both Tampa Bay may lose this series but I tell you right now are Martinez even down three games to one. Do I think Tampa to win three in a row absolutely naked with three in a row. Now they have to win two games on the road to Colorado if anybody's going to games on the road it's Tampa accounting and how, oh no, not at all that the one the last 2 cups from a betting man, yeah, I probably would pick against that just because they're down. They have to win two of three with three of three Experian fives MMS chapter have to win three in a row. Okay yes with Monroe. Yes they can do it absolutely Tampa Bay can win three in a row, but I don't think they will. I do think Carlotta wins her 1st cup since 2000 2001. Hats off to them what it on. What an unbelievable team. They are, and I do want to throw this out there any all this talk about too many men on the ice.

John Cooper brought it up to go to the lightning didn't you III things a little sore loser. There any time when you have line changes on the fly and I do watch because I'm always fascinated how quickly guys go on, guys go off right and how they do it. The reality is Colorado. Yes, they had six men on the ice at least 10 had seven. At that time because guys were going off as well so it's just a case where if you follow enough talking you watch enough games. A lot of times during a line change there is that moment where you have an extra guy in the ice is trying to get off the ice. It happens and if they didn't score that moment. Guess what, no one would've said boo.

No one would care. It never would've come up. No one even noticed it. The only reason people are noticing it now is because obviously you know what happened to copy scores a goal, they win in overtime and take a three games to one. Seriously, I would've absolutely have preferred Tampa to win because I think this is deserving of a seven-game series.

These two teams. As we said the two best teams in hockey going toe to toe.

Guess what, it's deserving of being a seven-game series. It could still be a seven-game series Rangers were down with three games to one to the Pittsburgh Penguins in that opening round and they came back 13 in a row.

I can certainly happen here, but man what I do love about hockey in the postseason. Okay and I and I watch a lot of postseason in every sport where I think hockey does well, much better than the NBA.

They let them play and behaviors to make to contact spouse being called. I'm always looking at them and say, really like you really need to call that just because you anticipate there's any contact with the guy drives the lane you get to blow the whistle, let them play it kind of ruins the flow but on the other side of it in the NHL. When he hit the postseason officials kind of understand to keep that keep that whistle in their pocket a little bit longer, and unless it's egregious. Don't blow that whistle because people want to see the good hockey people want to see that competitiveness and they certainly are seeing it because you're not blowing the whistle and I love love love that I there's actually news breaking right now in terms of air and judge the Yankees. They were in a four hour supposedly play for our arbitration hearing that has change. I'll tell you what it is next. As we begin our three Dan Schwartzman Johnson on a Friday right here it's the rich ice for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all opponents monster Ms. Natalie in the conversation where's on a motion. Andre was number one is not even going before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in line for New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen wherever you get your podcasts