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June 29, 2022 3:10 pm

Rich weighs in on the curious case of Dodgers 1B Freddie Freeman who fired his agents amid reports that he actually wanted to remain with the Atlanta Braves instead of bolting for Los Angeles. 

ESPN MLB Insider Jeff Passan tells Rich why Freeman fired his agents after they failed to ink a deal last offseason to keep him in Atlanta, and if the ugly dust up between the Angels and Mariners could lead to a rule change to more harshly punish players and coaches who brawl during games which leads Rich to double down on his proposal to automatically suspend any baseball players and coaches who leave the bullpen to join in fight. 

Rich updates the latest from Deshaun Watson’s disciplinary hearing and explains why the NFLPA is misguided in asking for no suspension at all to point out the hypocrisy of lenient punishments for team owners.

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Right now they can't drive 75 games. They have one 55 of their first 75, a judge struck out three times last night. They still will not gape Chris what is it it's June 20 somebody is always on the brain June 20 at the All-Star break is here in Los Angeles. The All-Star game is here in Los Angeles coming up next month and and the crazy thing is, it appears the Los Angeles Dodgers here in Los Angeles probably looking forward to that breakthrough can go back to Atlanta. I have been around this planet.

The sports world for quite some time folks. Thankfully, thank the Lord very fortune very very fortunate to have been talking sports ever since 1994 when Redding, California. K RCR television were on running every single day on this crazy sports radio world and and then I got the sports are 96 the NFL in 2003 I bring up my my past and history just essays.

I never really heard of a free agent making is all up like $160 million over contract. Much of it all. A good large portion of it deferred to the point that once this player retires. He gets 5 million a year up until 2039 I'm easier to make Bobby Bonilla look like a deferred money pump for. That's a really good deferred money, Rhonda, and you also siding for that money in Southern California. The sky is blue. Sun is bright yellow. The ocean is gorgeous we could choose whatever you want to live here in this beautiful spot replaced, and it seemed that you've signed with perennial contender because they don't care how much money to spend. Make the Yankees and Chris your Red Sox and now your Mets DJ look like bikers comes to just spend money type logs compared to the Los Angeles Dodgers never heard of a player signing into that situation and have signers remorse County free agents have signers remorse have been some I would say yeah there's some cooling off. But uncle Freddie Freeman by all accounts wonderful human being. One of my favorite videos I've seen in the last 15 years, not a baseball was him meeting a kid dressed as him trick-or-treat remote video a few years ago Freddie Freeman stopped trick-or-treating with his kid sought to address this him trick-or-treating and surprise the kid just one of these good people, bad, and you saw him back in Atlanta this week.

Teary-eyed really emotional.

The fans love him. He loves them and he's wearing Dodger blue and he's crying and I totally that is happening makes complete sense that you go back there in your feeling that emotional and your showing and and as you know I show emotion your all the time. I feel like Dick Tramiel, sometimes on the show I'm crying a lot here for Mr. but I am who I am and Freddie is who he is but then came the new adjuster you let me know that he it looks like he's changing agents now right now but female. Why would you be changing agents and I don't you put two and two together. Just reading in a situation just to just read stuff and you see stuff and you hear stuff. Is it possible Freddie Freeman when he went back to Atlanta chatting around the batting cage or strolling through a hall ran into somebody from the Braves organization who told him a back story or two about his negotiation to stay in Atlanta and how it broke down and what the Braves were told and what is agent may have been telling the Braves that he might have somehow known which is mild because Freeman was unsigned going into the lockout and there were people signing for the lockout ensures her son with your Mets before the lockout will you and I think he did. People are being signed before the lockout.

Freeman was not one of, not a lockout. People are signed and left right up and down, who was one of the last to sign Freddie Freeman Yankees no kept the light on for the put his jersey on their chest in the Bronx and then decided screw where I go to Anthony Rizzo which is by the way outstanding outstanding and I'm glad they didn't bring in Freddie Freeman because you know you might be somewhat emotional still in New York having signers remorse with Yankees team, it might have 50 some odd ones with him reserves a big home runs he sees only hitting like 220 but I just love everything about him and he what was with the team last year. There's no chemistry issues are certainly there is a chemistry issue.

It seems we have the doctors as Clayton Kershaw quoted as saying over the weekend. It's very cool to see Freeman's reception Friday night. He's obviously been a contributor big contributor for our team and I hope we're not second fiddle. It's a pretty special team over here to I think whatever he gets comfortable over here really enjoyed it was a good night for him Friday and Clayton Kershaw another great human being, but I've seen personally trick-or-treating. Trust is Mr. incredible had no idea I was drawn to his house trick-or-treating with my kids. The great human who understands other great humans and even he's saying I hope you're not second thoughts. Seems like that's where on what I know can't come full circle what stage. You see, the stimulus is 29, June 20 he still hasn't adjusted to life here in Southern California. When I sign with NFL network is a free agent for far less money and nothing deferred like this guy has deferred. It took me a grand total of five minutes to be acclimated to Southern California life and NFL network is great even when I was showing up and I was ESPN at the Super Bowl is, living my life man. The grass is so freaking green here. You have no idea that I was in million homes on NFL network compared to at the time the peak of no court cutting and cable television hundred and 510 million homes on yes. I'm somebody come up to me when Susie got the two of us into an NBA All-Star party.

As she was covering the Lakers at the time I got somebody come up to me saying I want you everything I like you have the NFL network already in the guises know you on NFL network, again, I left yesterday was Wayne months ago and he looks amigos are you all right Mike I can find for you if I want like this is the stuff I was going through and I wasn't being paid all that money like Freddie Freeman to be in.

In my network wasn't living all the time a lot like what Freeman's Dodgers are doing.

I have anybody sit there all rich. Does your new Gmail unit were pretty good here too. I was pretty Freeman is appear to be busy here.

He is got something in the past.

He needs to bury the first thing apparently he's using Barry as his agents and you know we have the analyst standards we have that bill. Thank you Mike Hoskins on crack staff, which I sent you all game and 1/2 lead. Dodgers have as many wings as the Padres and there is a giant 65.

Behind him rose joke and the other raising the Dodge like we just went on the games and peace please. Last year you… And the Giants at the same number of insane triple digit wins remaining Freddie Freeman all in the region talk to Mookie what it's like to leave your East Coast championship team for Los Angeles how you can live life, weird. It is up signers. Remorse is not likely struggling hitting over 300 entities. Yes, we think Dodgers are thinking right now. Kershaw, the leader okay the man who was now above the guy you just got a statue outside of dodger Stadium. I think earlier this month, Sandy Koufax and the record books for lefties in history.

This organization, the leader in that clubhouse and tenured dodger is saying it I hope were not second fiddle. We got a pretty special team here tell you most want to cooling your heels.

142 and Jan Freeman you want to go for what's up. It's weird it's weird it's rare it's on the keep an eye as the All-Star games are free to make the All-Star also teams have not let me check on the voting to be upset about that they take on Woodland. I should look, I shouldn't but he's from out here in college, I, I, I, I, I, making fun, I'm making like I shouldn't because again I know how emotional it is when you feel like you could have stayed somewhere and kept everything going and I have no earthly idea, and this could be born out of I don't how old are his children. You know if his kids are having a rough time adjusting to Southern California life. They pulled about a school they don't have the same friends like there's a lot of light stuff that I'm glossing over here that I might be, you know, out of line, having a little bit of like with it, but it's weird it's it's very weird and I know dodger fans Artie talk about one of dodger players are to was kind of like Clayton saying hey it's time turn page here, writes third and first base voting by Paul Goldschmidt and other polar bear polar bears go when that one. Paul Goldschmidt is 1.6 all its right, got caught his friends are anxious to get a Budweiser and then stuff the ballot by coming leave and go 10 times per day for your desire. I think I was five. You can do five more, and I been in the slack and mark to hang my gosh I will take a brazier waiting. Okay this one a lot to talk about is that it is first-order business with just Hassan worldwide leader in sports which also just dropped a long read from Don Barnett on Rob Manford, the Commissioner baseball. So let's talk about and earlier much you love that store call.

He loves Rob Manford when we met him, you gotta dig them, like Bateman mean you're nice to everyone that you guys hug DJ more of the Carolina Panthers will tell us so what's going on in his neck of the woods. Also Mark Hubbard, PGA Tour player, get ready for the John Deere Alaskan with the salaries reached out to him and then Ron Shelton studio on our number three. Do not miss that it will be dynamite 844204 rich number doll here in the program as well.

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So let's let's let's jump right into it is Jeff, the Freddie Freeman scenario that is unfolding here in Los Angeles is intriguing to me.

Like the guy is contributing the guy is producing like Freddie Freeman. We expect them to be but the emotional moment in Atlanta. The letting go of his agents. The quote from Clayton Kershaw saying that I hope were were not second fiddle. It appears that the pages not been turned by Freddie Freeman yet. Let's let's get into it. What can you tell me about the Freeman negotiations between the Braves and and his team when he was a free agent that that is still festering in your I think when it comes down to it Freddie Freeman has said he wanted to be back in Atlanta and turned out to be a very cutthroat negotiation where Freddie Freeman I wanted a certain number of years on a certain amount of dollars and the Braves essentially said were not going to do that what I traded for metal like the Braves were were ready to turn the page.

I think before Freddie Freeman was an interagency for him. You are like Valhalla like him going out there. I get to chart the course of my career in my life I get to pick one of 30 and there's great power and that there is also great responsibility and and responsibility in this situation goes beyond baseball. It dovetails directly with your life and with what makes you happy and I think Freddie Freeman probably didn't recognize in the moment what was going to make him happier and prioritize that picture to state to his agent. What I want to do dollars are not the most important thing to me. I want to be where I want to be where he wanted to be was Atlanta where he is, is Los Angeles, but I also think that sort of thing where a few years down the road with just a look at it like a this was his moment of closure time where the emotion got out and where I appreciated.

Frankly, the way he spoke his truth and was willing to be a human being, publicly and say things that you're not supposed day, but to me it's a lot different if you are not producing.

I think the fact that he's been good having 300 the base or hunter that the floggings almost 500. They classic Freddie Freeman season and there are a lot of fault that are forgiving. If you're out there producing so what Clayton Kershaw says it's understandable. I totally get it. But at the same time I I wonder if this past weekend is going to in the long run be seen at the time of closure where he do to steal a cliché.

He became a doctor.

Well, the question I have is is why would this be the moment where he changes representation. Is it possible he found out something he was unfamiliar with about is negotiations this past week in a tunnel hallway and all.

For some moment the phone, being back is a time and I propose it possible, I think you probably know the course of how things went out, pointed, sometimes it takes time to profit me and he and other.

The rumor throughout the industry, but that he acquired the agency came out publicly and still working through things with them and out but Buster only reported that he listed her self represented at this point in frankly it's all inside baseball and it is kind of trauma and I don't I don't know that you now agent goings-on are really all that material frankly to the general public.

This is just one of those things where it's car crash and people are rubbernecking to try and understand what exactly happened when what happened is done at the buried and Freddie Freeman took a pen, put in the sand and sign nonalignment for pictures $150 million of authentic doctors. I know that you fascinate the two things that I'm just fascinated by the other one thing you know, concerned the fascinating one is you know we've all been in negotiations. You have for your job. I have multiple types of sin, you know, and I just know that you'll get at some point, a lasting best from your employer, you know, with the message of we love you, this is it, you know. And if you come back and you portion say well this is mine, then that's the end of that. You know, I learned that the hard way with ESPN in 2003 and I have use that as a frame of reference.

Every single time I been involved in the negotiation. The update did that not happen did did did Freeman think it was still possible to accept the Braves offering and found out Matt Olson was common is that literally what happened is that I don't. There are enough stories bouncing around in a version that I honestly don't know what the actual truth is here. Yet there are some who believe he wasn't told specifically what the offers were I difficult time believing that because if that's the case, then either someone is blatantly just not doing his job or more likely you're not asking the right questions. There needs to be some agency in this process right like it. If you are the free agent. Certainly, you're giving the duty to the agent to go out and negotiate on your behalf. You need to be involved in your life to know everything that's going on to the demand knowing everything that's going on and I think that you, Freddie Freeman been with his agency for the entirety of his career and now that that trust was there and one just hope that truck is in breach of a situation like that again.

The reason we call it inside baseball is you and conversational player and an agent that really doesn't mean much to the common center.

Any sand or uncommon sandal, but what does is is that even though Freeman is producing on the field in a manner that will heat he's he's he's gotten us accustomed to that the doctors were buying that Clayton Kershaw still felt the need to say I hope were not second fiddle. That's the thing right like yeah and that is like to save me that that I think that there represented the nicest way possible to say hey for all of this love your giving the Braves we understand it, I Clayton Kershaw guy who spent his entire career with name team certainly in a position to understand it, but at the same time. Okay, it's done were were almost halfway through the first season you got everything out you need to get out.

Now let's move on and go just testing here on the rich eyes and show so is there any possibility that baseball sees the brawl between the Angels and the Mariners and does something another change nothing back. That's that's cool like I don't like Rawls.

I take that back. I am amused by I was on another program earlier today I will be what I said there I it brings out like my interview this suggest for my guy. I I get very excited about that. But then you see Archie Bradley break and you see Anthony Renda going out there and shoving Jesse Wenger in the face with the cast on his right arm, and shoving with a glass film having to spend a pretend games you gain didn't do something that was beyond the pale of your manager and see Jesse Wenger get seven games when if he had an inlet. I understand why mad as he was.

The reality is, Jesse Wenger turned around and walked first but felt there there was there was clearly some fire there that was going on and sorry described that to underachieving teams that are below 500 and that have playoff aspirations that are on the outside looking in. Right now want to show themselves that there still some pride in them and that they took the figurative rich and made it literal so why wouldn't baseball at the very least automatically suspend anybody who comes in from the bullpen anybody will 300 feet to join afraid I'm not mistaken the players and got suspended very, very interesting question.

I had to have this debate with my dad, probably a month or so and in his thing was if you come off the bench, then you should be spent, and in my problem with that is if The rule that then place it's 19 right it batter against an entire team and what happens if that entire team happened to be the aggressor yelled. She made of the guys out there literally on an island you want to go in and make sure you say and that's why JP Crawford was coming over the top with his forearm strike fly.

Julio Rodriguez was in the middle of it. They were out there, stick up for their guy and I don't blame my guy. Frankly, I appreciate sticking up for your teammate. But in scenarios where I think it was maybe Hunter Strickland through pictures someone and the guy would I really wanted charge amount Buster Posey could help him back and didn't think anything I just go go beat him up at five maybe may be the length of my I do think that players are going to look at this rich and say seven games a lot of time to mess for projected Wenger and is specially if, playoff caliber team. I cannot afford that time. If one of the more productive players from one of the more players on the team because if I do it could be the difference with matching making class and not to parent Iglesias believes it's not mistaken it's the second inning. I'm assuming they entered the fray from the bullpen.

A buddy if you are suspending the manager Nevin 10 games right and Wenger seven. Clearly trying to stop this your truly, clearly trying to create a deterrent. Why would you try and why would you allow 20 more people to enter a freight just like why would you do that.

What just that you guys let let them disc 22, 122 is fine right like this whether or how many people run a major-league bench at any given time.

31. On the 35… It including interpreters here now so clearly discuss the disciplinary committee did so that's what I'm saying like human beings.

All like any human being with fists and and and and that the gumption to want to throw them adding 20 to 30 more people to the front out of sight when you have that number. People who are already keeping the relievers out of it. You make, and I suppose there could be a hotheaded error. Who is going to peanuts and peanut dens on the me like it's just that was the other thing to the circus -like aspect of it like it's all over and then here comes a guy was just about getting projected throwing gum route like no players or pick up gum off the infield. Look what we doing you know I mean I be honest with you that my favorite part of was that thing Renda going left-handed seated on Thomas Wayne against Brett Phillips to connect the key to Phillips to pretty good job but might my second quote second favorite part with the flow much out of Reiko Iglesias feeding the field is the first instance of interpreter ever being suspended by baseball on her and on field and eat. To my knowledge, yes and I I mean like with the aim is to be able to replace him as an interpreter, or will they be will just have a medication problem for those two games I II think that I think that one day it may be problematic. Texture, if we look at the rotation don't know that the Spanish-speaking starter's trial. Try to get hooked on phonics will quick over the next time attribute that respect, I guess just passing. Thank you for the time sir really appreciate it.

Always enjoy our chats. Enjoy the time I the quiet time at home sick, your brother, I'm going to go to okay throw out that headset that's garbage from the external or caretaker just passing everybody not just passing time on the lawn here on this on this brawl stuff intelligence to get off of God. You can tell me like fighting in hockey. It's like oddly necessary is it think what I mean. I don't I've never been. I may not.

I'm just so likable and never, never focused focused elbow as his own fault because he fell, not coming off the bench yeah I like in the dugout. If you're into your notebook. He's not wasn't injured herself in a rundown to you already have a broken arm row for the year, but please you and it's it's the it is kicking in that moment, like where were going to go through hands. Okay. Leon makes you think that he wouldn't be the first to say I II can still just understand the benches. I still don't understand like these people are there any pen it's called tenure in your pending, literally pending, you must open dates and run a long way from real running for the length of a football field. It's a 100 yard dash your undertaking a 300+ foot run to join this thing not to follow me all about my guys can help right in front of you like instincts that fight or flight moment I understanding you fight I get that but you are in the pan you're all the way out there you have to literally open dates pass through a fence and go joy and run slow lately.

Josh Friday jog. If you just think it's just that's the worst offensive for just one of those pushing and shoving things every comes out just like let's okay go back to our corners, we get it major point you made your point memories runs in but the brawl that I would. How do you ban it you don't ban the brawl band joining the brawl and you can't put a full on. If you believe the bench it's all over, as he said one on nine is is that but I get what you're saying you are as you may not join the fight sorry bullpen guys we know your team players. When you know you want to support your guys we know you want to be there. You may not because of fight amongst 60 people is much easier to break up and is less dangerous than a fight amongst 100 that simple math since math but simple math we got in the car to drive the pictures and all I got run around take a break 844204 rich number down here on the rich eyes and show Ron Shelton, but our three JJ Moore, the Carolina Panthers, DJ Moore, the Carolina Panthers coming out will talk a little bit of football and what's going on in Carolina and a little tell me about the quarterback situation, but all all fish around a little bit you'll tell us everything that's going was on our offensive team last year. So let her know he was he was terrific player so will be joining shortly. Just one pause for brief bed here in a couple sense about what we're hearing from the DeShawn Watson disciplinary proceedings that's going on right now between the NFL and the players Association. What's being reported what's leaking out, and apparently this is day two Sue L. Robinson is the independent judge that is going to rule on this. If she rules anything other than zero games. The commissioner has the right to lower it or increase it, and according to reports, the NFL went in and asks is has asked, or their stance is indefinite suspension, meaning Watson would have to sit out this year and then apply for reinstatement and that's the ultimate and so that's on one and that's the the one hand and the other end is apparently the players Association is asking for zero games and look II understand the stance of zero games from the standpoint of they want to point out the hypocrisy of the NFL's stance on disciplining owners and players want do that.

They also would love. I think the really stick it to the league and have the first ever instance of this independent judge deciding discipline and then creating a situation for the commissioner where they put into the collective burn rate.

The commissioner can lower it or raise it as long as it's not zero. If it comes in at zero. The commissioner can't do anything the league's hands are tied and I think the players Association would kind of love that that it's just like you we we told you should've been out a discipline a long time ago. You can't be the judge and jury. So there they remove them as the jury part jury is this judge, and they want to remove the judge part two I think a love that. But I just want to say this.

If this comes up with zero games. There will be such a major hue and cry, including from this seat zero games for DeShawn Watson's behavior. All you gotta do is just read these depositions and read the details and hear his complete utter lack of ability to rationally explain himself nicely, rationally, I mean for somebody who's in my case, just very eager to hear something understandably exculpatory from him about his own behavior and I haven't heard anything remotely close to that.

And if he had zero games and gets to play all games and make $46 million.

What horrible look for everyone, including every other player in the Association that I understand is doing its job right now but just think of the ramifications if what comes out of all of this is Watson loses no games this year and makes all of his $46 million. What a mess that would be so I just wanted to get that off my chest here as this process is going on. And again I understand everybody's stances and what they're trying to do for future disciplinary hearings and also point out a hypocrisy but II think Watson is the wrong vessel to point out a hypocritical moment and also to try and stake a claim on this method of discipline in this format of discipline. What a huge mistake that would be if it comes out with a big fat zero. From all this still here on NBC Sports on Peacock and NBC Sports audio is Kevin Costner, the best movie star and extent of all time best movie star athlete of all time, but we repeatedly couldn't throw right so I never made out to never made it to Fred and I live in England. Bull Durham.

He's which hits the bats left and right hand obviously golf others he can throw really good golfer. 72 25 he can pitch any good pitches got a pretty convincing uniform off the mount, he could build a team. I got one for you. Sylvester Stallone played soccer and sock. Don't forget victory, victory. He was in terrible convincing Clay was terrible to say that there is a joke. Victory is the sports version of the great escape. Yes God.

It is if they made a sports mood lately. You made the great escape and later slowly and physically couldn't play that's but saves the day.

But what else is like the underneath the other lady.

Can we can train we know that he can. He can run down a chicken and name him and Carl Weathers on the beach in Santa Monica running tomorrow and hugging it out. Costner can hit throw golf strategies. I think of other appreciate the Jamie Foxx quarterback long rumored to be making Mike Tyson any cost or showing off ton of ability is Corbin Berntson been anything else coming and try to go through other sports movies to see more carbon actually quarterback you silly thing in that he was in the resist. He was just in one movie doing on that point. I'm just which is my favorite autographed item in this in this sports item in the studio is the bat Billy Wyatt back from stealing home that we had both Mark Harmon and Jodie Foster autographed that's got to be one of one on planet Earth. It was my question to you Chris, do you mean like the person who is the best actor please. In sports, movies, or the person who plays the best athletes in the meltdown shows the best athletic prowess that do not look at it like you can't throw a candidate she can't throw it, you can head that I was thinking about could be Madonna Tina Davis on the Olympic archer true that for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments. It's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all time high.

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