REShow: Joe Person - Hour 3 (7-5-2022)

Does your antiperspirant keep you dry all day. Dove men plus gear dry spray goes on instantly drive for cleaner fuel and offers 48 hours sweat and order protection repeat that 48 hours of sweat and order protection. Use it and don't even think about it. Also dove men dry spray contains doves unique one quarter moisturizing cream.

It helps protect your skin tried dove men plus care dry spray goes on dry cleaning fee all day is that Rich Eisen shall have the right to win one in your minimalism show live from the ranch show studio in Los Angeles. You absolutely don't want to shout sports Tuesday I'll be back on Thursday and Friday. Brian Weber encouraged tomorrow. Quick update. No joke toys and other tennis stars righties facing one's tendency to Janik's dinner quarterfinal match at Wimbledon. The all England club loses the first to set the fact that in the second set doing so 7562 way.

What was this guy's name Janik center is a good boy. I Janik you a sinner or not it's the Joker versus the sinner about that. They go with regret. I joke which comes back and wins next reset 636262 and surprise surprise top seed in the world moves on to the semifinals of Wimbledon in boy but if we end up with a joke in which the doll final you seen that movie a few times as well. Sad to see Fedor not in. There's why he's 40 years old now but I was Lazo is a Roger Fenner for his respected chimichanga bad boy right like the dolls. Always a good guy like a great guy, everybody knows met it was like Eisen nicest guy you'll say hi. Do you know your names like the nicest you'd ever like you can never wish wrong on Roger Fetter right.

My guys never done anything wrong and he's been out of the knee injuries. He doesn't tend to come back, but at 40 years old, you probably pull Serena Williams get knocked on the first round like I think it's time you done Job 3435 still got a few years to dally me, start to break down a little bit still playing a high level and back. I can win the French Open with one leg on the damn thing 14 times impressed you like to be honest I do like tennis, like I'd like you and I can watch to see like marquee matchups right is like me with golf of Tigers play and I watch Tiger not watch the rest the field. I don't care about the rest the field okay that Scotty Scheffler's number one ranked off in the world.

I don't care. I'm a Tiger fan targeting Tigers right like 5000 to the world us to watch because it's Tiger that the amount of the unimaginable could happen with Tiger tennis is like giving the marquee matchup joke which plays the doll at the final. The Australian open. I'll be up at 3 AM and I watch it because it's great tennis. The best of the best versus the best the best like top going to tennis no fence like David Gelfand playing 19 Cameron Norrie.

Neither guy moves the needle for me and Serena still moves the needle for me because I can only think you see history she might win the 24th grand slam title which at this point seems like she's not, but you never know she can put it all together for one tournament and when did happen obviously, or maybe the U.S. Open, the home-court advantage.

Maybe in the U.S. Open coming up in a month or two she can shock the world. The 40 and went joke which moves on. The doll is replaced tomorrow in his quarterfinal match and the rest will be history now has a highway doing curves that would give us only curious. He's in court. Actually guys that was the one that was wild man that old curios versus match against since of class was. While that was crazy. I mean when he's yelling at the cherub. I think he called dumb since a positive the ball into the stands.

I mean, that was just complete control is lost. Insanity is good stuff. I against since advisories are you the cherub priority accuses opponents of not having respect got off $10,000 fine to the spin, the direction of spectator that heckling him. I mean you want I'm a bad boy tennis. That's the guy he's actually a bad guy apparently because you know he's in court for potentially assaulting his ex-girlfriend. So next month he's gotta show up in court at the Australia for alleged assault of a former girlfriend last year.

So some serious stuff. Your Nick your yes I can do for a guy like that. I mean, I like the bad boy the sport, but one that's not potentially criminally bad. You know, but he is just not saying this guy is just nuts. He's actually a really good tennis player if you stop being so emotional on the court probably actually win something no zoom on your macro little bit.

Noel tell you why the difference is this verse. A lot of the macros criminally bad right like curios might be macro one a lot like McEnroe was like number one right. He was like a champion guy and one grand slams Nick curios has not won anything of substance. He's he's always kind of a noise for the wrong reasons, and he's always had incredible talents. If like anarchy, you know, like Kournikova was a really talented women's player than when she got the moniker being hot in this and that, in was modeling and things like that. She kind of left tennis behind and made money on the modeling side right in the page 6 side of things. Curios is kinda similar sense of like is a really talented player but he is. You know he's never been listening. He's he's the high seas urban ranks artist 13th he's never advanced past the third round of a tournament's in a grand slam until this year at Wimbledon. Thanks to the quarterfinals.

You got the court finds that feeling open once and this is his second quarterfinal run at Wimbledon and he's got a face. I think the doll next. So good luck to him, so you never want anything, is 16 career titles overall you and 63% of his matches.

He's got great so he's more known for being a bad boy of tennis. Then for his actual play on the court. McEnroe, on the other hand, one a bunch and was legitimately a all-time great tennis player. That's why think there's a difference. But yes, in terms of antics on the court.

That's the case yet. I mean, you know, if you look at McElroy one Wimbledon 3×1 U.S. Open four times so he won seven singles titles and was in the morning player. So I like it looks like he's playing Christian guiding tomorrow's FOC slightly sees playing towing the quarterfinal match than he would II guess face he would face the doll in the semifinal match up if he got to you know he could beat this Christian Goering diamine.

He's unseated to. He's a unseeded player with that match counseling the American by the way, Taylor Fritz is ranked use either the 11th two Americans left by landing the women's it's this Amanda nisi mobile think she's like 18 or something. No, she just turned 20 and she's 20 years old so I mean you know you have an American and thereto in the women's division to so Alice and I get very patriotic when it comes to international things like this right so I roof the Americans as much say I respect Rapp and Adele. I will be rooting for Taylor Fritz tomorrow morning to move on to the semi's to potentially face Nick curios if he beats Christian Goering in the quarterfinal start man was Chrissy ever. Chrissy ever when I was growing up on all your big fan Greg Norman C allowing so sorry she was on all on ESPN's part of the coverage. People forget how great she was.

I mean, you know what she wanted. Yeah, absolutely. I mean she will like what I gave 18 grand slams or something. I mean yes 118. I mean unbelievable. She was right number over 260 weeks of the greatest female slaves of all time. There is no screen of the screen that request. Everything I conversation to. She was on believable shows one 90% of rematches that's incredible. You will more tennis factor before you move on to college football you the greatest female tennis player was was a copies of the woman and that Chrissy ever concluded beat Martina never let you know it's a good one know you known to me was the greatest Monica Salas while people forget that mean I went when Monica Salas got stabbed in that match in Germany. She was like 21 years old or something.

By the time she was 20 years old. She had one eight grand slam titles macro listen to this streak right from 1990 to 93 again 93 got cut short because I believe she was stabbed in 1993. She had one ready for this. She won the French Open in 1990. She won the Australian French and US open and 91, she won the Australian open, Wimbledon and the US open and 92. She had one off bent to start, 1993 and then got stabbed and this is before she turned 20 years old. So when people talk about maybe the greatest streak of greatness. No question for me. Monica Salas was the greatest me that three or four year stretch. She was far and away the greatest tennis player we've ever seen. I mean being incredible. She's like 50 and one no joke your archers like 50 and one in grand slam tournaments for like a three year stretch.

It's amazing. I mean no one, no one's ever done the note and no offense to Serena Williams. She said the longevity of it, but no one has been as dominant for a stretch in tennis. I believe then Monica Salas was until she was that she was literally 20 years old or actually maybe I'll even though she was 20. I think you still 19 when she was stabbed by that dust epigraph fan in Germany and she of course, only one wants after that. So you talk about screen with 23 Grand Slam Titles Margaret Ct. with 24 Monica Salas could've 130 grants and titles she could have.

Now, what should've I get it, but it's an abnormal circumstance in your literally stabbed on the tennis court by your rivals crazed fan. I'm just saying you ever get a chance out there read about Monica Salas and what she was as a player because if you don't know her history you will be actually amazed by her greatness for that short trips that short stretch of time.

A grand slam singles titles before her 20th birthday she won the French Open at 16 years old.

I mean I got to self finance always running. Maybe you think about it right like we think about the greatness is not a name that comes to mind until you hear the actual greatness of this yeah yeah I think Billy junking Martine Martina Navratilova, Chris ever played a longer period of time. I asked Monica doesn't really come to mind the snow because associate is a short run is such a short run and obviously the circumcision is that this and you get stabbed in the tennis court. You will never feel comfortable again on the tennis court psychologically of the psychological aspect of it is, she probably kept looking over back you know every time stick the court and that's why she was dancing so so young yet made up inmate stayed with her, stayed with her showing 11 grand slam start one grand slam title after that in the know that that's it's it's it's telling by lifting a guided spelling no time in jail you Europe's very, lax when it comes to things like that in you know I think he spent very little time in jail and some if any at all and really crazy swimming like Steffi Groff lobby. Sue was a reason why Monica Salas got stabbed to the craziest epigraph fan Paleolithic visited her in the hospital in Germany.

Once you have a chance something to read up on it so it's a wild story that is a crazy thing where they the women's tennis Association want to want to suspend her ranking at number one while she recovered and all the other players voted on and I think like only one player like babies like Gabrielle Sabatini voted to do that reveals is like now don't do that later fall down the rankings is undated's crazy leg to beat the Fighting of the infighting amongst the other tennis players was insanity of what to do in that situation, you not only to read up on it again after the show is really while I thought it is crazy stuff man you want to talk about just treating a person wrong. After a violent incident read how tennis treated Steffi good treated Monica Salas after she got stabbed. It is crazy I craziness the college football forget the and IL's right guys making millions of dollars that Miami get some accrued that apparently Scott make like 9 1/2 million dollars over his career, the mercy Miami and he turned money down could've made more money elsewhere.

I think at the University of Florida was offered using roughly $11 million and IL deals that's the bands of college football. In terms of the individual level but in terms of teams and conferences, USC and UCLA for five days ago they jumped to the Big Ten that will take effect after next year and that kinda leaves the pack 12 in limbo. What happens now.

I like organs a top team. Washington's pretty good but here's the is the difference LA is the number two media market in America after New York, USC and UCLA are the two big schools in Los Angeles. Okay, they might as well be the pro football teams that sounds they were for a long time until the Rams came back.

So for the Big Ten.

They wanted to gobble up the Los Angeles media market because his money and that and they did. Congratulations to them. The problem for Oregon is recross the fact that they are a good school at football and they have all this Nike money and great facilities that offer you a TV TV market of substance) that Oregon is not a major market. In fact I don't even think the top 30 market the top 25 TV market so there's not added revenue in terms of television dollars for the Big Ten if they bring Oregon same as Washington. So the fact is doesn't need Oregon, Washington, and they told them as of now were standing Pat because are waiting to hear back from Notre Dame. If Notre Dame wants to join the Big Ten, which by the way they should, because geographically it makes sense of the with USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten that throws any sort of geographical conference alignment out of whack and if Notre Dame goes to the Big Ten upon Clemson. I'm calling up the SEC tomorrow saying hey when can I join right. Clemson is in South Carolina, Clemson belongs, the SEC and make sense. Maybe if the SEC wants to take out Vanderbilt because they're only there to keep the GPA up of the conference. They never win anything. Maybe go to Virginia who is known equally as good academic university that I think is a little bit better football maybe bring them into the SEC potentially whatever but again that's the bottom of the barrel, but you've now got the system where you have to power conferences and everybody else. Power five Big 12 is a joke right of moment taxes are going to the SEC. That's why the Big Ten had to react and go get teams out of Los Angeles. They needed the market. They needed marquee teams. USC is a market your marquee school utilities along for the ride because the rivalry also yelling TV market. So where does that leave the pack. 12 the big 12 is a joke as well. By the way, the ACC is a joke. Where is Aleave all them you can call power conferences anymore. What's the power team of the big 12.

What's the power team outside of Oregon of the past 12 outside Clemson. What's the power team of the ACC and again Clemson should be bolting for the SEC any day now and Notre Dame should be bolting for the Big Ten to finally be affiliated with the conference and the ACC is not to be had.

Although they claim the ACC for every other sport for Best Buy muzzle stay in their I'm just saying it makes absolutely no sense when you break it down and how you have to look at the conference alignment is now college football and what it means for everybody outside the Big Ten and the SEC I went Callaway engineer chrome sought to be the best to a bullet didn't just make the best players better than everyone better men, women, first-time major winners repeat major winners club champions business golfers.

The chrome soft family has the best were performance for every type of performance starting with the regular chrome sought which is designed for the widest range of golfers who want better feel more distance and incredible forgiveness for better players looking for more workability chrome soft X provides excellent spin consistency into a level short game control. Finally, chrome soft XLS gives you a lower spring golf ball on longer shots from the field but still with high spin around the greens and now every gross out this enhanced precision technology, which uses designed design techniques and manufacturing specifications up to 1/1000 of an inch. This ensures that the highest quality, most consistent fastest golf ball possible when you roll up. It's actually very simple. Chrome soft is better for the best and better for everyone. Find out which chrome soft is right for your Callaway golf.com/chrome soft I little NFL talk as we are you not long from training camps, OTA's, yet the mandatory minicamp. Recently Joe person in the athletic you will join us next Panthers quarterback situation Baker Mayfield. What's the latest Dan Schwartzman filling in franchising on the Tuesday edition of the rich eyes and show the areas our three the rich eyes and show on a Tuesday dance with him for rich NFL mandatory minicamp last week that far off.

The countdown has begun the NFL five year sport to follow.

Yet the season the postseason combine the agency OTA's minicamps. Next, you know, is training camp exhibition games and then back to the regular season. They do a great job but hence they are the number one revenue sport in the entire world in terms of the league what's going on. The latest her buddy Joe person from the athletic joining us. Send Joe you of course are based in Caroline, I want to get to the quarterback situation with the Panthers. What's the latest there mean to send Donald the projected starter or are they still try to figure out a way financially to bring in Baker Mayfield. I think that with pretty incredible that dad like that, they report in three weeks. They report that July 20 and here yet yet that the bottom line is the short answer, they are still interested, at least some in the building at the right price and I think Matt rule is among you would like to speak quarterback upgrade of a gut date, but the nave made no bones about it right. They were in undershot lot. They would link to just about every quarterback in the draft they took a quarterback in the draft third round in the first background out of old men and statement continued to be linked it to Baker Mayfield to a lesser degree.

Jimmy brought below and I think if it were up to rule would already be done by uniting the owner, David Sapper, despite being worth $16.7 billion.

It's like you know were already paying Sam Darnall 18.8 million on that fit your option. Somebody convinced me David Sapper that Baker Mayfield is that big of an upgrade over Sam Darnall or or even if you just a marginal upgrade, let's figure out a way where, or not paying to guide 18.8 million box and so do the Browns get a little more cooperative than drop their price as we get inch closer to two training camp. Yeah, maybe I don't know you know it in a game that chickened out dating back to around the draft. I need to keep that second night of the draft.

That night they took her out the Panthers base to Jamesburg pretty. Talk and at least it out somewhat. Talk to Baker that night so it it in a blink first. Or does another team meet Gannon wrap Baker and then the Panthers yelled and they do play with either Sam Darnall or potentially yell. Jimmy grovel out but it it it remains a pending situation. Yes, you cannot see happening intake Baker Mayfield.

They need a quarterback you want give me David Sapper's number. I am a lifelong depressed Jets fan so I can make the argument to him that anybody is knocking over Sam Donald and if you want to join in on the conference call, Joe.

You're more than welcome. You watch them last year after the third week he literally just fell apart. We did in New York. So if you're up for we call Tapper we can make the argument you in or absolutely yes.

But here's the thing that Sam Darnall but by any measure, did not play well your Oracle at your point. I think their thinking is again you get to be clear, I think Matt rule and general manager Scott better RR up for exploring an upgrade so to be clear, however if they do have to tear it up with Darnall. I think the hope is kinda based on they have improvements along their offense of line bringing in the grant.

Austin Corbett starting right guard from the ravens Bradley boatman who will compete at center and probably are, and then signing RCV drafting a vehicle on date number six overall play left tackle think that's one part of it, and then to add or maybe more importantly, the hope that Chris McCaffrey can stay healthy and give them Darnall, a eval and a pretty dynamic weapon in the run game and the passing game for more than the you know seven games he played last year at seven, so help and will Joe person the athletic joining a sanitizing so dance was 19 for rich are you coming back in the Washington DC area want to head there real quick Lamar Jackson contract situation how you view this right.

Lamar Jackson is an MVP. He's won the war had a great season. He's also a guy that is such a threat with the legs. But he's taken a lot of hits and the question is can he be sustainable as a starting quarterback.

If the running threat leaves him where he has to be more of a pocket passer questions that the team has to weigh us to decide on a long-term contract. Joe if you are running the Baltimore Ravens. What we what would you do in this situation Lamar Jackson paying a fortune, or would you be skeptical you know that I have not covered very closely to be quite honest, but I did cover for its entire NFL career, with the exception of one your New England cam Newton career and I saw a guy who is who. It's just a unique wide generational playmaker boat with it with our and interestingly and ironically encamped case. His arm went for the fee and that was that the result of you Separated by light.

Because of the way he played yellow cam at ankle surgery he had accomplished shoulder surgery that by the time he left year. Sadly, he was not the same quarterback, nor was he one brought back late last and and I give camp and Lamar Jackson, a kind of credit like they don't they don't want to change the way they play like that that was the same questions were asked Back in the day. In his famous quote was, what are you going to do, ask a lion not turgor like I am a type A personality. I am the Alpha I'm not going to start you know, running out of bounds. You know, he could be a prolonged prolonged his career's yeah I don't know like that big last big hit on his shoulder came in Thursday night game at Pitt went TJ Watt barreled into him and Pam never solved, and it got me like you can't prevent that. So not all the running out of bounds at the end of the scrambled not prevent everything the same kind of debate with with the Raven again. I don't Lamar is meant so much of that franchise. But I understand why these conversations wide receivers are getting paid boatloads of money now that position in the passing league has taken on even more importance what your thoughts on the amount of money being no really shelled out to the AG Browns. The Terry McLaurin just signed a massive deal. You know, obviously Deacon met Cass to be next in line to get a massive deal as well. Is this something where teams are breaking the bank for a position where literally the draft you can find good wide receivers right McLaurin was 1/3 round pick, Ajay Brown was a second round pick. DK was a second-round pick. Are you… It says yeah break the bank. These guys are man you hurt yourself. Yeah, like diplomatic dopey diplomatic answer, but the Panthers and I'm not saying BJ Moore is necessarily a where Metcalf or Lauren, but he's pretty darn good BJ Moore on some winning teams. I think would be getting propyl Ron is at 38 consecutive 1100 yard receiving all of which, I say that to point out that the Panthers just gave BJ Moore, an extension that with good solid money, but it wasn't as you said break the bank create the money how we can get this under that salary-cap and so you know is there a way to do heavy teams draft a lot receivers at the third and fourth round every year and they don't all end up coming out looking like performing like to get back at I would lead toward in a passing league as we know it has been for quite some time now. I think I'm paying these guys if you find what you really like and trust God and obviously did break the bank of Montana and sees now with the Las Vegas raters in his college quarterback Derek Carr. His name is been debated recently because some people said hey.

Don't expect him to do what he did with Aaron Rodgers, a quarterback is one the greatest in history of football now at their car obviously is not the same category. Do you think Devante has somewhat of a let down a bit or do you think because of his familiarity with their car to see the 1500 yards and we've gotten accustomed to seeing out of here. I don't I don't see a big drop my understand I understand I remembered about. I forget what draft your way but Panthers kick the tires… My year at Brackley draft Kelvin Benjamin but I'm traveling so I don't have in front of you start pointed I like the font that I think he's going to be just fine, especially here are their background made eye note Derek Carr as a guide to the end up finding but like I started hearing around that when all the quarterback musical chairs been happening the last few off-season he was a guy named Derek Carr. I would hear from a lot of different teams and and and personnel type lake that like a geek you know he ever became available. I think he's again. He hasn't gone and played in the Super Bowl morning like that yet. I get it, but well respected around the lake and I think for good reason.

You are correct. By the way Kelvin Benjamin picked 28th overall by Carolina and the good news for you guys in Carolina.

It wasn't as if Devante Adams is a nexus even to go off the board.

Legendary name searches Marquise Lee Jordan and Paul Richardson were kind of in between Kelvin Benjamin and Hans Adams 1/53 overall.

So you I appreciate that you haven't forgotten everything I want flirted yeah Devante.

I was that I was pretty good draft for receivers. I think again picking late that year.

Back when Ron Rivera going to the playoffs quite a bit, three years in a row and that you know and Benjamin.

They were looking at all and not what you asked me about called me they were looking for a bigger type like that Dave Gettleman was here at GM at time and you know, obviously Benjamin yeah couple good years that that got hurt struggle with weight and you obviously did not pan out. Well Panthers that bench now in the wide receivers that are sandwiched between them.

Last question for you, you know, the AFC West is really good with RBC the Chiefs the Raiders the Chargers in the Broncos bring in Russell Wilson now are you a believer in Russell Wilson taking the Broncos to that next level where they're going to be right up there with the Chiefs, or do you think that potentially even with the addition of the future Hall of Fame quarterback were still looking at a third-place team, AFC West, probably a little more to go on on them becoming in all going to raise their level course that defense. I know they're trying to yell rebuild that not be built there but can't tweak something there is to be not again Atlanta got a couple other teams are going to make the playoffs. I think the last eight what a quarterback division I huge like everybody else right thing. I think the quarterback play is so good and try to date Panthers. I don't I get to schedule in front of me but I will tell you that I don't need make everything a Panthers conversation so that it became my cover. They were wet when I mentioned then being in on somebody quarterback to stop their general managers got better and general manager spent like to decades 20 years in Seattle and so even though it looks like Russell will going to end up dead better call the you pick up the phone and call I told Schneider in Seattle be a good we leave. Let me ask about Russell will Carolina where Russell played three seasons that state before transfer that was not but at that point, Schneider told bitter now where Russell wants to go pretty far down that well you do nothing CMC West this year the Carolina Panthers they will be facing the AFC North playing Cleveland since the Baltimore actually are playing Denver on week 12 so that will be that what I would try to remember is that that basically that gay and they Russell will will be coming back to the Carolina plan on the visitors and ironically enough, after the biweekly facing Seattle's you know I mentioned that Ron Rivera era. Charlotte and that that became an interesting cross-country rivalry back. They were playing just the way it will spell. They were playing a lot in the regular-season. They played a couple times in the postseason and they were really fantastic day back with obviously I can't be equally it took him a while to get over that when they beat Seattle halfway through the 2015 that was sort of a feather in the cap and they went from there and you might want to magical season Joe person of the athletic covers a Carolina Panthers joke.

Safe travels. My friend appreciate On the show are we. Great stuff Joe person that was magical.

Season 15 one went to the Super Bowl. He lost the Super Bowl, but Camden's MVP season that one year he put it all together. I mean literally put it all together in a 36 touchdowns like 10 interceptions rush for a bunch yards rush for a bunch of Russian timing out of the great seasons are quarterback sad. What's interesting is when people talk about cam Newton and his greatness or lack of whatever you want to look at that one season he had is the one that stands out every other your site 24 touchdowns 13 interceptions great running quarterback never quite put it together passing wise the way he did just that one season where they went 15 and one.

Amazing really was amazed my receivers get all that money begrudge any plan for getting paid for careers in the NFL make that money when you can absolutely felt soft wrapping things up on a Tuesday dance was for infrared sheet is the rich I show forth the name for rich. I will begin Thursday and Friday as well find Weber in tomorrow wrapping things up when I felt a person from the athletic appreciate him hopping on the show in transit, especially Maggio was lost in there couple times around like them and I hate that and then boom.

The heavens opened up and Joe was back so hard as my gosh I say something no yeah I'm so scrambling to get his phone number like voice methods Joe person. Great stuff in my take on Lamar Jackson. Is this really it's simple. I think Martha could quarterback.

I don't these great IDs a good quarterback and the legs are what make and great you stick them in the pocket. He's an average quarterback, Kyla Murray very similar and when I don't think that long term.

The guy can really play effective football at the position because I think his skill set does not lead to a lengthy career.

I'm not paying I get like the ravens are going to have to pay right because it's hard to find quality quarterbacks and we got a guy who's won the league MVP in his first few years, a link that's impressive not to take that away from Lamar Jackson.

I think the ravens are between a rock and a hard place and here's what I think the ravens frankly are probably thinking we wanted sign a guide to tenure contract that we don't believe once like start going to take more hits can be an effective pocket passer to move the football down the field and repaying $50 million a year to do what right but on the other hand he's a fan favorites and he is a very good quarterback because of his attributes that are still short because he's a young guy.

I think if you have to pay how you sell to a fan base were getting a quarterback because we think in four years.

His legs are going to be diminished, and we don't think he's a good enough pastor to be able to kind of compromise is not to be a popular argument right like for a fan base. That's accustomed to watching Lamar Jackson when they look around the league and being a Jeff and they've gone from one quarterback to the next. They never found their franchise quarterback in the hope that Zach Wilson cannot break that streak maybe does maybe doesn't the Raven families knows hey we have consistency with Lamar Jackson.

We know he's good. He can win us games.

I don't care about what happens for five years down the road if the loses the ability to be as effective with his legs. Can he win us games just throwing the football purely they don't care, it's not their money so the ravens were to let them go and try to make that argument, the fans, it's knocking to go over well you have a minority of fans saying yeah I get it and let's go find another quarterback.

The majority will say I so I think the ravens probably don't want to give a long-term contract like the Sean Watson type of contract right words fully guarantee what eight years like to 46 years to 42nd is a crazy amount of money session for his situation not to get into it.

Patch moans contract margin want that kind of money right he's going to break the bank because that's the natural progression of money at that position. You don't have to be the best player to be the highest paid quarterback it's you have to free agency at the right time was Matt Stafford the best quarterback in football when he got his record-breaking deal know you can make the argument that Patrick Holmes was the best quarterback in the NFL. When he got his record-breaking deal Sean Jackson edges on watching Susie and I played an entire season. He got a huge deal and he may miss another entire season.

Plus, so Lamar Jackson is looking and saying okay well I'm not patch moans.

Not that he would say that on the safe for him or not.

Patrick Holmes so you know I mean you don't deserve more money but I do understand how it works.

That position that you're the next in line.

She probably will get the kind of money was just a Herbert Wirth when he it's free agency or the threat of free agency a few years right you know the charges already start to think okay what we pay the sky because monies ballooning out of control at the quarterback position. Quarterbacks can be eating 25% of your salary Shortly.

Hopefully he goes far away is that the rater venue speaking that he goes far away from the AFC West yes absolutely okay that makes sense. I don't blame you. It's all about you not tell you something art. I have to admit I was, not just have a guy we came out of Oregon. Really I was nine, I thought he was a, you know, I thought he was a product of the system and I thought he was overdrafted by the charges like Sigma -like seventh overall and I am one that will readily admit I was wrong mean he is he something else yeah he is going we can we can hold this guy down man, no finds no way to win is unbelievable listening always got a great arm he's agile back there. He's smart quarterback right between the he's good between the ears. So he makes the rollout of right decisions. You have cut down on the pics. I think as he gets a little older and the game sows and even more for him. I'd like to see better coaching from from that team. But honestly, I think. Look at your he's proven pretty much everybody wrong, but again we use that argument. We do all the time right will. No one from that program. Mr. not to be a good quarterback. So why would he write Oregon had a bunch of guys that were talented college quarterbacks. It never amounted to much in the NFL right. Joey Harrington guys like that the stock their terrible quarterbacks. Was it Dennis Dixon guys like that is like the USC argument right leg.

Look at all the terrible quarterbacks at USC okay of Carson Palmer, but every Elsik map Barclays nothing right. Mark Sanchez was terrible liner. That liner was awful. You can make yard and the guy that never played there was 1/7 round pick of the patriots turned out to be one of the top guys Matt Cassel and it tells you how unsuccessful USC quarterback said we have your boy Sam Donald Sam Donald another terrible one so you have a Carson Palmer and Matt Cassel of the two best write your budget I drafted. I haven't been very good Ohio State quarterback same thing right on the record-setting Ohio State quarterbacks.

One of the amounted to in the NFL. Not much JT Miller Braxton knows JT Levitt was Gigi Miller, is Braxton Miller I think I received the late Duane Haskins is great in college was struggling in the NFL.

When he passed away.

Not a lot of success at trial. Prior had more success as a receiver.

So the bottom line is you know there is validity to say a guy coming from a program maybe putting a big numbers just because the program but just in Herbert certainly has taken that dynamic and he has changed my opinion on that because he came from the system at Oregon that produce incredible results in terms of statistics at the collegiate level, but no success. The NFL level.

He has been incredibly successful as first couple years, the lead and I don't see that ending in when the charge nurse and start saving up some money to get themselves ready for that do want to thank Howard Vacaville shaken angel person ever happened on the show again. I will be back on Thursday and Friday in fridge tomorrow will be Brian Weber. Always fun, sit in the big seat on Thursday.

Dance was franchise on a Tuesday right here on the rich eyes and show for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all opponents. Much of him as having a conversation where is Andre free mouse and Andre was number one is not even going back before you know Holcombe was a baby face Holt and Andres were able to go in headline the New Orleans Superdome at Shea Stadium in Japan wherever they went. That was an attraction something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard listen wherever you get your podcasts