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August 12, 2022 3:30 pm
Washington State Athletic Director Pat Chun tells Ryan why he’s confident new head football coach Jake Dickert can make the Cougars consistent winners year-in and year-out, how the Pa-12 will move forward following the defections of UCLA and USC to the Big Ten Conference, and more.Â
Ryan reacts to the NFL correcting its use of ‘race norming’ when denying concussion settlement payments to black players and reveals why most former NFL players live in fear that CTE could be in their future at some point.
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Six years ago and never changed it and it because a lot of these kids I called kids that they don't know who the hell I am.
They were even alive when I was playing so you know, so this introductory video shows all the good stuff. The rise and then it doesn't hold back doesn't pull any punches.
It shows the precipitous downfall like a really quick clipping montage of like Ryan leaf arrested again buckshot here all about that, Ryan. We've got all these news things that play out to it and then to where we are after the fact.
So just like you have an idea of who I am and then when I start the speech it usually is. Hey, I was exactly where you were at 25 years ago.
In fact, I was probably a better position right. I was about to be the second pick a manifold draft.
We were about to go on and play for national genitive. So right. You know what I'm about to tell you is a story of what not to do or what to do it it it simply my story and and not try to make it the best I can. Every every time I'm there.
I just got back I guess at Florida State. I don't know. I felt like it was the most connected I had with the team.
Oh, I don't know why it was just I was locked in. The kids were locked in. They were listening and in this teenage I always worry when I first started talking to these teams when I hear like just just silence like you could hear a pin drop right and I'm like oh my God, a bombing like this is there is a not get through to anybody but kids these days. Like if they are attentive.
That means a lot didn't like me if there sitting out the phones going through things like that.
That's normally their behavior right and Celeste thing that I don't know.
It felt it felt locked in there down it at FSU with coaching a team. These kids know who you are, know your story and how familiar are they with you. Do you think I asked that question. Sometimes being like how many of you have any idea who I was and if so is what you heard like bad right like there's a bad connotation to it.
I think a lot of people assume that when I walk into a room like this. It's a story of what not to do but up to the point where they're at in their careers.
I was on unbelievable success right right so everything was going crazy. So you can't you can't go to show you what not to do in all these instances not to show you what to do to get to the highest level and then once you get there how not to blow it right and how not to do that.
So there's you get both sides of the story you get in a way a meteoric rise and how to go about their business because I think people in and teach me the point of shape, we will realize how hard I worked to get where I was. I was never supposed to get to the NFL. I'm from Great Falls Montana like there's been one guy drafting the first-round info draft I was like 1953. Not like a Western PA or Southern California or Texas pipeline manages it's not it's not something that happens like, and so I was never supposed to get there so I had to of done a ton of things right. To get to that point and so it's important to to showcase that hey you can do all these things to get where you need to get to and when you when you reach that level there is a conscious evolution that has to come with it. If you don't evolve.
If you are stuck in the idea that you are the end-all be-all that what everybody else is saying is wrong and you are right and all that you are doomed to fail. And so that's kind of how it how it goes about and it's just for making relationships with coaches and I mean the first coach that ever had me out to speak with Nick Sabin so I don't know if you have a better referral then than the best college football coach of all time right usually took about five so the first five programs that reach out every fall okay are the five I go to it. It doesn't matter the size of like a number of years back I had my five picked out and climbs and came in a little bit late and I said I was as I can. I'm on somewhere else that we can that they haven't asked me where I said I'm at Northern Arizona and in the welcome to close it anyway you become a little more you know I Northern Arizona we can do another time know. I dare you picture commitment and was a part of that program, you know, it doesn't matter how big it matters about the.
The young student athletes. You know I never I never want anybody to experience what I had to experience. I don't want anybody to ever feels miserable as I did doing something I'd love to do right in the cause me so much pain because of of my actions and my choices so I don't know anybody like I think a lot of people think sometimes just steal her stance.
I told you about this Steelers fan Jeremy I made a comment yesterday around and I've made it before. Even before, as I thought that scene where the rest of the quarterbacks went in this years draft. I thought maybe going after Kenny Pickett in the first round may have been a bit of reaching to the bottom and the second it sounds like maybe you could know. Maybe you know team felt so good about into but but I thought it might be a bit of a reach and Steelers fans yesterday just let me have it like one of the summer comments were like you just want somebody to be a blunderbuss that him so people stop talking about it and that's the furthest thing from the truth right now reading the comments you guys you just going to your twitter feed and you just have to just happen to see it and so it was one of the biggest points it at all. Say this to the kids once giving speeches I might, I don't want any of you to be. You were successful. Go to the NFL and just bomb and be the biggest bus there is because so will replace me. I said I am the number one guy. I'm super competitive all that mantle to the day I die.
So I don't need that. I don't want that. You know I enjoy what I get to do now it's to be back around the sport not only from the analyst perspective and sit in this chair, but then being a part of college programs on the country.
I mean, you name a university, I spoke into it probably right that's out, that's how great it feels to be welcomed in and cool down and I walked into these onto these campuses in a and I do something little different.
I asked her equipment staff if I can get their gear so when I saw even though it's not. I've been at Washington Avenue one Washington gear them readily why because when I'm talking about the things I'm talking about walking in front of someone's line on the golf it could it. It is a little upset that they don't get it. You don't understand why I do it and try to be part of something special. I'm talking about right mental health and suicide and all that stuff that it defeats the purpose of want them to believe that and I don't like to just go for a day like show for an hour, speak it out like these kids needs can consistency need to be able to trust somebody so I like to comment and spent two or three days like when I went to Florida State I was there for three full days 88 meals with the team all day long. Went out to practice and met with them and you know I give my phone number at the end of the talk I give my phone number to every player and coach in the room so if and when they are having a moment where they need help or if there in a moment where they want to share something amazing that happened, they can reach out. I've had it. I have had players reach out when they've gone through real difficult armadillos on the knife out of reach out when when they just done something completely amazed after four touchdowns a day. Ryan, you know it's so fun to be connected. I think for somebody was so disconnected for so long.
I can use it in a prison cell, guys. I mean, it is the furthest thing from feeling any sort of connection in this world at all.
I mean you've been warehouse and marginalize and those are two things that I never fully understood. Of course you been given a number and said you have no value and you start to buy into that and believing that and and not not understand fully what what your purpose could be ironically enough, I was in New Orleans over the weekend before I got home here speaking at a corrections leadership conference corrections of the guy that help me set up this opportunity to speak was my old Warden while my Warden has been like 88 a super agent from his book like six speaking events and things for me. How crazy is that you I'm about to embark on some work with the DA this year around their campaign called one pill can kill because of all the counterfeit pills that are out there and how many people are dying of overdoses because of the fennel 10 years ago the DA was hunting me right essentially and now I'm about to work with them. I mean it's like I couldn't fathom the idea that what 10 years ago, my life would look like now and it's a good lesson for those who are early in recovery or who are early on a path of anything to understand that it can get better but it's all about what you do with it today so I can't control what happens tomorrow five years from now or anything like that.
I don't want even look 10 years down the line. I ate believe that if I do what I did yesterday, today, I'll lay my head down tonight at peace and wake up and go about it again and sometimes we just make things incredibly difficult as human beings. And that's real simplistic way to look at it and one of my biggest supporters are one of the guys Bill Moose was the former athletic director at Washington state and when I got out of prison. It was a kind of a mandate keep Ryan leaf away from Washington state. We don't want. We want any association with them is he is tarnished our image of so much to this point we don't we don't want any. And that was the mandate that went out so I was not included in anything or any aura or any patch on gets the job that led director washes they currently first thing he does is on a trip down working with some donors in LA asked if I would go to lunch with them sits down gets to know me is to know what I'm doing trying to be and things have just just steamrolled from their help get me inducted into the washing state Hall of Fame. Go she was first with RS ID to get me nominated for the College football Hall of Fame.
I love the fact that I'm a Washington state cougar. It's a decision I made when I was 18 years old and I will be that for the rest of my life and I think for the longest time and I know it wasn't a fan base. They still wrap their arms around me like anybody you know it was in administration thing at the time, and I fully understand why I do I get it I'm not resentful. I understand it, and but instead now I'm just incredibly grateful that Pat Sean in Washington state have led me back may be a part of that great program. Their first game this year I'll be calling the tactical network versus Idaho and up next that athletic director Mr. Pat Sean washing state athletic triggers you to join us here on the rich eyes and show will be right back.
Welcome back everybody to the rich eyes and show Ryan leaf ear filling in for Rich last day of the week alongside TJ Jefferson Michael Dell to focus Brockman and would like to welcome to the show here on the Mercedes-Benz vans phone line, a man that is supported me a time and I'm so happy we could get on the show today athletic director from Washington State University.
Mr. Pat John Pat who should I do about good random hateful proof that you have to be because you're your show was named Kate shot that my alma mater at it Hall of Fame that whatever day itout. I'm getting to be friendlier with Elijah washing state like it at all let you know how John the Ohio State deal. I 10 years to get those those jabs and so yeah get there to let you know Michigan is only gonna win once every year. Just let them have them in a log entry for the Wolverine enjoy it kind of experience and same thing in Pullman right after beating up on those dogs often applicable right, and I have vivid memories of being with you on the field before this last Applica and and I tell you, you could feel right at the core it works against our rivals which which are on the left side of our stated basically break up beat about November.
That was the last time I did the Husky Stadium since since we wanted and so's a little bit good. What I called the game for Westwood One that day and it was it was fun to call that game it really was they they played an incredible game and I think it solidified something that I think a lot of us had seen up to that point. Interim head coach Jake Dickert wasn't gonna the interim for much longer after that. As you name the next head coach washing state pretty quickly after it was one of those deal you got you you you been around coaches in and around winning teams but just to watch it go for really fractured and broke into start every single day just get a little bit better little bit more yield little focus on then. Now it in our in our aperture here you'll beating our rivals is always a little bit fortunate to be in your part of a rivalry.
There's a long, long history and tradition with it, but was really a combination of just nominal extraordinary piece of work I Jake Dickert EER and the opportunity to be up BR head football coach, and I think were all know Moorad on anything but stay August will really excited about the prospects of after the fall I want to speak a little bit more about Jake Dickert and because I was there in the spring, spring game and I brought my family with me and my wife is been around the program now with me for the last you know five years or so, really, ever since you took over and she made a comment to me as we were driving back to Spokane about the optimism that was in the year that there was. There were more people smiling at me. She'd been around not in the likely chair and of course during the Nick role of the chair and I found Jake Dickert to be a guy that is never at any point going to put himself in front of the team or or make him self more important than what the process is and what the team is and she just simply said like there's an optimism there that as a mincing I don't get me wrong, it's a results based business is gonna go out when what I'm going to the season and going to this off-season it's it's it's felt like there's a positivity that hasn't been there in a long time. You are pretty reading people. Jake is a servant leader. First and foremost, and how he managed to navigate and I think that's what you that that probably what you guys felt than I Anatomy you can you you been up all the more than most people I know Jake is like and if I label them up from the Midwest. I labeled them was Dr. Knight I is a mirror-image appointment. Nice.
So you know, there is really thoughtful, caring people that just in their DNA and we were to program your word is a flashier work which we just need more caring and intaking a guy would also I would also say young people need unite my opinion to get the experience are supposed to have an oligopoly. Thank you your your teams when you got one at the highest level your watch and be they were so connected with each other and so connected with the program and really that that is just a byproduct of time, and we live and we live in a world that will people in a hurry and people rush like Jake is willing and his coaching staff for that matter, to put in the time to get the developed even to be connected with each other and to take care and I think that that that's probably what you thought percolating in spring ball and I can tell you after you nailed it, even in the following month because you know part of his DNA bringing it together rent the importance of being together and you like it that were were supposed to be in early August that we all feel pretty good about it. Just you know that we want to be connected to the team and you know and and for us were always been a school that has to win in the margin.
One of those marketing and we gotta be a little bit better team to get a little bit better leadership. We gotta be a little bit more together and we can if we can either set down but we can get that expertly were washing stated it has had a great gain from grounded teams that on paper they recruited better against the Catholic man in architect Tarkington at one of the highest level they got team teams and that that's out of directly here for decades. Attacks on Washington state director of athletics. You've seen it all, since you taken over there right you you came in with a deficit in FL any athletic budget you watched in IL become a part of the conversation and then of course transfer portal and now USC and UCLA deciding to embark and go someplace else outside the pack 12 footprint to the Big Ten just can't talk about what that journey is been like the evolution and in where washing state fits in the conversation piece. Now when were talking about the 10 remaining teams in this conference may not washing eight we've always been a program that that Internet resources of other schools we've always you know you always got the be a little bit different and and really be bored out. Then we bring an error code X coaches that the staff they built up that that's a recipe that will probably have to be our washing feet beneath the end of time, but happy that there have been transformative changes in college athletics just went one just the continued amount of money that get court into our system 3D TV contracts on top of that we deregulated transfer/or or football copper that we have this unregulated name, image and likeness environment and and we still operate out of a historical model where works will be in. We need to figure out ways. Put more in our student athletes pocket and and without sacrificing the educational experience because that in the day it still the most piece of of the entire experience and the one thing that really remained on the gate only pathway to change your your socioeconomic status to raise your sightlines. The future could look like this and still group through education, specifically college education. So our system is in a period of dynamic change of USC and UCLA did I get a month and 1/2 ago is just a byproduct of where where where this thing, unfortunately, is headed and and and and and how TB is impacting a lot of decisions you know a lot of short-term decisions relative to you know what history and tradition are what what those two schools that met the pack and packed well, but if were like in any any any error that we never had a college athletic incumbent on us to try to take what we have and try to make the most out of it and worry for today. I'm comfortable with. With the commitment of our nine other schools in the Pac-10 pack 12 and our willingness to stay together and move forward in and you don't know what what you don't know all of our conversations happen for thinking and I think everybody here on the West Coast knows what that state how important it is for us to stay together and conference this conversation right is a lot of you set in those meetings over the last year with UCLA and in USC.
Marge Armand and Mike Bonin and and and and and I assume presents Olson as president president. Meetings like that in you know what was said to their face wasn't necessarily what was going on behind the scenes. What what gives you confidence that what you're experiencing together right now. The 10 of you makes you feel like that's a more solid foundation than then clearly it was just over a month and 1/2 ago I would get paid a level of candor in all of our meeting and the types of questions that are being asked coming to dinner at everybody understand what that statement. Everybody understands you are not. I've said this multiple times are our biggest threat. Multiple commented our biggest threat is one conference making the decision if they want to expand born to the West Coast that the average amount of matter so we recognize that. So I would just as I get the couple comes then it is not know these meetings have been intensely been highly communicative.
But the fact that there's been candor in all of our meetings is where everybody got the right questions and the fact that were all asking the right questions and give you a little bit of copper that one ever wanted is trying to work together for you had many calls or or interactions with alumni washing state University, kind of panicking because of all this, or has there been a pretty like I try to come from an optimistic side of this.
Regardless of what anything looks like one of the landscape looks like the tradition and history of washing state football is never going to be go away. It's it's always gonna be there for both can be played there to be played a very high level and be very competitive. I think there's some fear from people that that that for some reason washing state football in this note new look of what constable could be no longer exists. And that's that's the furthest thing from the truth.
I think one. We have a president who actually was over a decade ago, the statement that group had the same quicksand with the big 12 and they were able to survive. So why did I say that binoculars is purchased Dunmore to calm me down and vice versa. What went with all just with just how intelligent just how uncertain environment is and why they get, especially at the beginning parts of July.
I think the nice outcome of all this is all the all these in the athletic team to write down a list of all these sportswriters that cover college football as they as they try to follow the data on why you don't behind all these decisions, which is basically TV ratings no longer hold washing and I think that the most comforting thing that that it that it been very, very public, especially in recent weeks that legitimate value standpoint, what Washington state bracelet table and what the nine other schools in the pack 12 preprinted cable is really the reason why the 10 schools after you don't need to stay together wants to together, but are our story totally unique in any when you try to do the math on why does little wash if they cannot TV set. You could gain it back to the guy to design our logo because our belief is one of the most recognizable logos and all college athletic and you just build up from Jack Thompson, Dennis Erickson, Mike Christ, I notices the 25 year anniversary of your team that was what seemed like a Mount Everest. At one point that that you, your teammate got over you passport another Rose Bowl in the Mike Leach years and gained a company or gargantuan. Maybe it's because we've always thrown the ball around. You know you for your for your crew there actually RFID giving contribute to grill write about about it is Rose Bowl year, but you look back and it's like maybe it through the ball around and we can utilize maybe people like turn watching us because Rolly gave it to someone else Alliance, but my washing patrons on TV sets and 100,000 done.
Are our footprint specifically does include Seattle and I think people forget that like you were in Eastern Washington. There we field all around us, but for whatever reason, washing patrons on TV set. In this corner of the world and and throughout the country so that the most comforting thing that I remind people that the data that's writing that the PB rating. Obviously we have the you know Regents or Pres. chapter everybody on campus you're recognizing the importance and value of intercollegiate athletics. So you are resisting head which I believe it is going to be what the pack 12 staying together. The actual really confident that he Washington so much. The cabling member shall edit its workgroup were too valuable to be left out of any conversation. Well, I agree.
I'm biased, but I completely agree. Our suite with Pat shines a director of Athletics washes the University forgets here but you just made reference that you sent the text I had completely forgotten. This is the 23rd anniversary of our Rose Bowl that really makes me feel old, but is there anything planned or in store for that this this fall that I should be made aware of what what will honor that. Unfortunately, in your in your new life. You're working on Saturday so I so you will have to figure that out but that is a historic moment in Washington state and you know it it it's one that really you can argue put it on the map and the fact that you know are one of our great alums keep Jackson. At that time was one of the boys in college football and that that year just reestablished us in looking back and you may notice off the top your head but you know how many guys in total from that 9017 ended up getting drafted or signed preaching contract next year. 98 I think it was for the summer. Drafted and I would suspect's notes 10 or so God got free-agent contracts ninth most in school history. 13 actually harm that that 9017 ended up at least in a training fall which says a lot about the calendar on Apple quality was incredible. He tells us about the amazing teammates and coaches Stassen finally being able to walk on that sales and see washing state. In the end zone us with some really special in one quick question before you pick me up the radio. You have a 21 yard Dragon and 97.
The longest run of the year and got a fix on your stats here. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm trying to think like I had a touchdown against Boise State and long run the Rose Bowl that one want not not not anything to look a lot like my pump that you you before you CLAD a 48 yard run slot that I've been allowing him yeah so I'm also viewing a scene a few weeks. In week one versus versus I hear your pretty opener yes or I appreciate you have not touched on everybody washing state director of athletics, go to us when we come back will recap a little bit what he had to say talk about what's deal constables looking like here on the rich eyes and show back to back everybody to the rich eyes and show Ryan.
We fear filling of rich eyes and alongside TJ Jefferson Michael to vote Chris Rockman Mike Hoskins back there pulling the strings again admit I get into this in the open. But again, thank you, Pat, Sean athletic director for Washington University for joining us talking about all things college football.
In particular, the pack 12 Pac-10 currently will see were that were that leads this this new story was kind of buried and it has been for some time and I think it it lends itself to just the absolute Teflon.
This that's a word to the NFL right in this. This is fitting for somebody who who played for four years has residual effects from playing football but a while back, the NFL settled concussion settlement lawsuit and in the observations are in the appointments with former players getting diagnosed with issues that come that stem from from concussions and head trauma.
In fact, that there was a essentially a algorithm or away. They went about deciphering people's needs and for the longest time there was a bias against African-American players in that they were denied healthcare claims because of this bias that was in it and it finally got rectified the lawyer for the plaintiffs finally figured out and stood up for in the NFL now is you know, finally correcting that wrong in saying hundreds of black NFL retirees who were denied payouts in the $1 billion concussion settlement now qualify for awards after their tests were rescored to eliminate the racial bias changes to the settlement may last you are meant to make the test race blind use of race norming in the dementia testing made it more difficult for former black players to prove that they had the kind of conduct cognitive decline that qualifies her tire place for awards at average up to $500,000 or more. Because of of the issues are having an it's not a large number who have played in the NFL guys anchors upward setting is around 27, 28,000 players ever in the history of the NFL hundred years or so. History the NFL that plate so it's not a huge numbers, not hundreds of thousands of individuals who are seeking these types of things.
Nearly 650 men have had their dementia tests automatically. Rescored according to a report released Friday by the law firm handling claims against the NFL retirees had met the other criteria for successful claim which includes hours of validity testing to show that their daily lives are significantly impaired and they are not malingering. All this was done in its the NFL was contacted and approached to comment and of course I think they've made their statement, but this is something that affects all of us in particular players that are of color right they were being denied because of that and I think is the biggest fear for all former players is that they're going to be in a place where they're going to need that help whenever that may be in it and it was essentially being a boundary was being placed up by the NFL in helping their former players because of their the color of their skin and its that's an atrocity it's absolutely awful it's amazing that this is something that the NFL is again been able to sidestep and you know say hey you know messed it up and now are correcting it more moving forward.
The reason I bring it up simply because of the obvious right is the atrocity of it but also just the fear that many of us former players have.
I've never I've never said this publicly is something that started happening a year ago. We all know and talked about having a brain tumor 10 years ago that was was trauma related luckily for me that that was was corrected. I had the surgery and I had. I dealt with radiation to correct and stuff like that. But that was from trauma from from the concussions and from from playing the game, but recently this last year I started developing a tremor in my in my hands more more often when I'm doing exercises like what I'm doing planks and pulling my own body weight up. I've lost a lot of weight not become a lot stronger, but when I'm doing it my arm shake kind of uncontrollably and I was I didn't know what that was and so I was really fearful and and in and you can see it. Sometimes, when I'm holding up like drinking a glass of water. If you're really paying attention. You can see my heart, my hand started to shake and is becoming more obvious and so you know of to address it with with some people and I went to my my neurologist who luckily for me it was a what they call it an essential tremor which is genetic and it's in my family, but she did asked me to go get an MRI on my brain to make sure that the tumor is and that the result came back pretty positive, but she said one thing she said that that my brain was starting to kinda sag in the back and it's a result from the surgery that I had in some instances, but these types of things are exactly what we fear us as former players and when you read stuff like this because I'm not a big conspiracy guy I died. I don't buy into that. I feel like when the NFL talked about not knowing the trauma that comes from it. I could buy into that and I don't expect anything like I don't I don't think I don't need a big payout or anything II chose willingly to go into this profession and play this game. I don't think I would do anything different because I think it gave me a lot. I think it's a lot of guys a lot. I just him in the same way around the opioid epidemic.
If a doctor would've told me years ago when he prescribed me my opiates for the first time that hey, you know, if you take these in and there's there's a chance of dependency. You know, 10, 15 years and I may be going into people's house to brutalize the house to take me. I might have a different mindset on whether or not I take it sure if the NFL you know who knew the results of these things that happen over the years watching the situations with Mike Webster with entrée waters with Junior sale all of these things if they had a better grip on what was happening and were honest with people saying hey, this is what you have in front of you. You can play the sport and make millions of dollars in such a family up for life, especially coming from places of abstract poverty right things of that nature, but you also may be limited in your lifespan right there's cognitive issues that can come from it and you know you may only live to that, say, 50 years old or something like that and then you and the choice is light at your feet, you get to make that choice, you feel like something was withheld from you and I don't get me wrong I knew it was a violent sport are not naïve to the fact that there was, you know it was it was a physical violent sport, but I think that's the biggest thing all the so having said that, not a big conspiracy theorist, but then you watch and listen to the avenues in which the NFL would go to limit their former players that built the league to receive benefits that they entirely need. That's concerning and for somebody who is starting to have them feel like there's cognitive issues that are going to come in to play. Over the next on 46 right. I hope to live till I'm 95. My grandfather's 95 years old. I hope I get to live that long, especially with having a child and inventing a great relationship and all that I want to live that long and so if at some point I need treatment and I need that to continue my life.
I don't want to be denied and those African-American players want the same thing and for the fact that they were denied those how many years have they been denied that and now I finally have an corrected as it is huge relief, and in my mind. I can only imagine everybody else's mind you know it's something I continues as NFL's got to do better.
I think people look at the NFL and see that we don't have lifetime health insurance. Players wish and hope they had that people from the outside world say any any job you stop working like if you get benefits that at an insurance job right and you quit that job your benefits go away. They don't stick with you for the rest of life, but I don't ever want anybody to like associate what an NFL player does in comparison to somebody maybe works in office and and and and I understand that so want to talk about that a little bit. I was planning on open the show but we got on attention around what we do want my speaking and I think it's important that the NFL continues to try to be better right it in because it no when you do stuff like this and then you try to take the high are the moral high ground and in situations like the DeShawn Watson scenario and and not being in the same place with the say Dan Snyder and Robert Kraft over some of their allegations over the last few years right you just don't know where the NFL Lance and confuses people. The product on the fields applied in the field. I love it. Everybody consumes it.
It's never not going to be consumed is never not to be worth billions of dollars they can just be better. Just like anybody else and I don't fully understand the NFL like his is like any other human being, were flawed, probably flawed just a matter of whether or not you choose to be better today and I think they fallen short in many many many different categories just like I have try to be better together for our brothers who were no longer with us and who are struggling right now. Need that help so far as my soapbox often we have a great show rest the way we come back. Chris is good jump in with his or what's more likely segment. More likely it's Friday.
Maybe I love this Friday. I love that it Friday is the middle of August. I can't with 2022 is almost means literally almost on football season is about start.
We come back we'll get to that was Chris Brockman. What's more likely with I think is to be some football things and there probably when we come back here on the rich eyes and show I'm finally feeling for rich and will be right back all right to to NFL preseason games last night right you last night right.
Haven't talked about yet, but Pat is John anything crazy happen to pass Giants and then Tennessee ravens yet time gave the ravens continued this crazy streak of Avalos a preseason game like five years, 24 straight games. I think it is 120 2121 straight games, now's like it they could get the 24th of they run through the this is no likely 3 to 23 and get to 23. Malika Willis right was a conversation piece last night pretty good and will look into that. You know the Pats will have a little press conference from Bill Belichick little bit later. A lot going on about the playcalling that Patricia was calling plays one point, then Joe Jelinek split play calling the one he wants to preseason for everybody. It's it's for practices are the ones didn't play not really looking too deep into it now is think on Berkeley at that. He looked pretty good. The limited action that he well, so much so that preshow you kind of talked about maybe being influenced think I'm kinda sick – that out.
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I didn't say that, and then only people watching peacocks it. Luckily no one on the radio heard it where I think most most of the shows consumed yet all about my take on destined down the Ellen. I think they going to be good strategic well he better be for the Giants sake for Brian. Table 4 for Daniel Jones right that's good that's going to be imperative. I'm coming anxious on the giant side of things to see Kate on Thibodeau. I think that is a great fit there using the battle so far this year With Evan Neil and Kayla and that is that it's an iron sharpening iron situations. What is so huge, so big came on so fast and physical.
That's can be fun to watch in New York this year, the on the indices for me is just kind of a crapshoot. We talked about a little bit the other day. I like the title bit more about it where the Giants grind enables them to do something special to catch lightning in a bottle do something different with Daniel Jones. What does that look like are they able to compete. We have not had a repeat champion in the NFC East since the early odds of the Philadelphia Eagles so we'll see what that looks like we come back here in the rich eyes and show Riley fill in for it to be right back for the real story behind some of wrestling's biggest moments. It's something to wrestle with Bruce Prichard and Conrad Thompson to all Tom Hogan opponents.
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