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REShow: Kyle Whittingham - Hour 3

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August 18, 2022 3:14 pm

University of Utah Head Football Coach Kyle Whittingham tells Rich why he’s confident the defending Pac-12 champions can be just as good if not better this season as they head into their season opener against the Florida Gators, weighs in on the conference losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten, predicts the coming of “super leagues” and says why NIL is “out of control” in college sports and needs to be more regulated.

Rich reacts to the “disappointing” statements by Deshaun Watson after he agreed to an 11-game suspension and $5 Million fine after the Browns QB denied all wrongdoing and asserted his innocence in the dozens of allegations against him.

With the NFL’s Pre-season Week 2 here Rich lists the top 5 rookies he wants to see more of in this weekend’s games including Steelers WR George Pickens, Titans QB Malik Willis and others.

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So again YouTube.com/which are essential for everything that you may have missed an 844204 which is the number to dial all our phone lines are lit will get your phone calls were very busy today we go to the Mercedes-Benz vans phone line right now and welcome in the coach of the number seven in the AP poll. Utah Utes football program joining us here again on the Mercedes-Benz vans phone line is the head coach of Utah football Kyle Winningham how you doing coach will tell you what I am doing great. What is going on in your world with the football season right around the corner.

Tell me what you like you got out WE get two more days Start school on Monday, so don't do snore in season routine, but know that an outstanding capsule for knock on wood stay very healthy. So I think relative to where we are in the process were in good shape but we still got a lot of work to do these last couple weeks. You know where I went to school.

I don't okay I didn't I didn't go to Utah but I was rooting for you to see how she suggested I was reading Sally very hard for you at the Rose Bowl last year, would you think this is all my gosh. So how how much of a step forward. You think you can take from from that game last year as well.

Coach a lot of returning players. We lost some really good players. Don't get me wrong Lloyd first round linebacker Britt Cody was so instrumental to so many different ways and that much of a good football players moved onto the National Football League, but we got a really good nucleus coming back to start the quarterback cam rising first team all Pac 12 quarterback last year and he is the leader of our football team and we had a really good recruiting class we brought in a bunch of those guys going to be impactful right away. You know they really shown up in. It looks like we hit the jackpot a bunch of guys so much. You take from that game experience loss of the kids that didn't plan it and obviously didn't work out in the end, but what what do you take from that game with those kids that can spill over into the season well on the bill will be on the national stage and that spotlight was great for our program for our brand and as you mentioned there's a bunch of guys coming back there to be with us this season and just makes you every experience you had to grow as a football player and you will hopefully be able to handle the role of the favorite which is been about. We usually sneak up on people but but we stress to organize all your long and hard to stand up and it is to get to the top and we got the target on her chest. We gotta be able to respond in and build handle success at the bottom line were very successful season. Last year it was really the next step in the evolution of our program is to win the Pac 12 we won the South three or four times got to the championship game three times in and you are times a charm where we get over that hump and take that next step. Now we got it will take another step for this year. The challenge saw huge challenge coming down SEC country that you know new season new coach down there in the top 10 team coming into their place of ministry to be a crazy atmosphere and environment were already starting to prepare for that challenge for week one and then again also going into the heart of SEC country and try to strike a blow for a conference that definitely does not have the respect I think you know that nationally, despite what you did last year. Despite what other programs in the conference have done. Do you play that up with your kids at all sure you're right on the money every night you got it regain respected and is only one way to do that on the field you can't talk about it.

You can't lobby for them and you gotta go out and get some really quality wins in and that's bottom line. That's what skin taken and we have opportunity this year, coach of the rating capital champion University of Utah Utes football team right here on the rich eyes and show. I do know folk in many cultures throughout my career and I understand that you must control only what you can control what is in front of you. That's my set up that's my wind up with this pitch coach. The are you concerned about the future of the pack 12 right now, the right word. I think there's a lot more movement take place at the grand super competent anywhere around it super competent to stand up and show you how the landscape shapes doctors think anybody knows exactly how to play out, but there's been a be X amount of schools are on the right side of the line in the sand when when that line is drawn and that that group schools will govern themselves as far as you think a break with Nancy to a have their own playoff system and the gap between the absent have-nots is huge that chasms can be gigantic and I think that's where things are at.

I mean is this, I can agree with. I could not agree with you more. And it's refreshing to hear that from a head coach of the big time college football program say that so do you in your spare time, call up your ADN school president say where are we at the seat of the stable. Well, a lot of spare time I do when I do run into him on the rare occasion I do get updates and then get a good feel for what's going on and what you know what maybe and down the pike, but they don't know.

I mean, just have to be a waiting game and see how how the cards fall me what was your your thoughts when you heard the news that I'm sitting in Los Angeles here during the show coach Winningham that this is now Big Ten country what you think of when you heard that news UCLA, USC, well yeah we we had a team meeting the next day and our stance on that day and all were focused on is our football team in the season and this changes nothing in those regards, you ready to play both US you usually are scheduled for the next two years and so it's business as usual and don't let that be a distraction to block it out just like you said, control the controllable's in and do our thing say they're running from Utah say that is not part of the conversation but I'm still not when you're playing against USC.

Weekly can rally versus Chi Winningham and coach versus coaches say they're running from glad to say that I have a feeling you're not writing that feeling you're not looking for a pen and paper right now to write that now okay very good. I get it so so what's the real world for you coach, waiting, and what it will. How does that affect your world. Utah is crazy you I get out of control might be the right way to phrase a bit but you know and no words can end up which it's gotta be reined in and put some parameters on some guardrails is the term people are using, but right now it's a free-for-all and and is impacting recruiting tremendously. This class is really the most impact in the minute it gains momentum each year in and the players in this class are very near what you got mine and I'll and I always and what's in it for them.

It's got I don't know how the able to get a handle on it but you get your own team get you your own players are our got their own stuff going which is great. You are messing up anti-Ellis just got a be regulated. Somehow, someway, and right now again when searching for that and doesn't come from the government level animal house can be implemented in animal for governments interested in you jump into that or not.

You know, but right now it is pretty chaotic right so kids recruiting say you have gotten this deal from somewhere else. If you match in, Utah. I love you but I'm not common is that happened absolutely no doubt about that. Not every kid there. There's a certain percentage of guys that that's that's the main objective is not your culture or your academics are your winning tradition or or your location. It's it's you Wesley and I'll package so one that leaves the room or you leave their house or whatever it is, what you say your coaches when not to leaves the room yeah well you know we got we had to stay in the game to stay competitive in our limitation on what we can and can't say. So we can't delve right into it to you tomorrow selves but it is a challenge. Others leave it at that challenge and and working through it and trying to navigate through it, just to tide altogether away from the beginning of our conversation, Utah coach Holly here in the rich eyes and shook his you you mention how you think this is going to super leagues or super conferences or ha ha however maybe this might be an impetus for that because if you have a smaller group of programs you can come up with those guardrails that you know you can get a better consensus if the if the world that you're living in a smaller, would you agree with that. Agree on percent that would be a waiter to arrange things a little bit and get control of commenting here on the rich doesn't show okay so when you get the kids and they're in school and everything is all set your first order of business to get ready for Florida is what you shown game film right away. What are you waiting away when he got on the family doing that already we have that we get a head start on that fall camp.

You don't you don't get to involve the opponent you worried about your your own team in your fundamentals and techniques and so forth that we realize the challenge ahead.

We've already broken up into scout teams. Many practices ago we were out of practice in an environment crowd noise environment. You things that we typically would never do during fall camp are being implement a dish or coach appreciate the two.

Since the looks of my call during the season. Certainly, if you drop that line UCLA or use USC week. I can remind you like it's in your mind or if you'd like a will run from yeah yeah you yes you will be asked that we can hear their leave in the top 12 for the Big Ten and you could just see the run from Utah to me. I'll take it you know all press is good for me. I some fun. Thanks thanks.

It's on coach appreciate that's a cow with everybody when guys ran from question coach what you think their limit. What's up what's wrong with the pack 12 that they're leaving for the Big Ten home saying is the run from Utah one charges is that running from Utah and want a piece of he's a smart guy, clearly he's a smart guy, clearly because all he had to tell him was, I didn't go to your school but I was rooting will heavily for you. Where I go to school publishing. Smart guy, very perceptive, but how many coaches I asked these questions to and he's like I think it's going to super conferences. I think that's always going to go is no question it's going to go that way. And yeah, could you imagine kids and I've gotten this year you match on, and there I guess you can you blame them in this world where there's no. But it's not supposed to be and incentivize or to go to school.

It's supposed to be out of school. You have the ability to utilize your status said school.

The secondary status at said school is worth more. When you go to said school then going to bother school, then the other school is gotta come up and match its Regency and it's tough to sit there and tell the kid you shouldn't do that when there's a no guardrails MP conference, a get $7 billion for television rights and $7 billion in television rights because you're busting your ass in the classroom as well as the meeting rooms and film rooms and training rooms to play Mantegna thanks I appreciate when you agree with me so awkward sometimes I push it. I forced him to say no, I'm not running but that's what I'm most proud of myself I know what it is 20 to talk to somebody about the red light to snow when she notice how you out on the red light on 53 you not change much, I have not run natural thing can't weekly calls and for the Colts right now. I hope Matt doesn't call in. It is a new opportunity and a new focus. They are dark or Super Bowl contenders.

He is a dark horse MVP. Let him focus on those that I don't think were at all. We don't to be queen on cloud his mind. Warm natural BS that's been going on for over a decade hasn't worked in looking at their roster on hold on, I'm assuming it's his fifth year. I'm assuming he's making the team I think is making the team he zombies whose is whether the cults tackle Matt prior, tell Brian he's the new Metro cults. Thank you that I want from Matt and it's not a question he won't take it.

He has not taken it 10 years maybe will now this is where that you not want to starting NFL quarterback to call in though our show. I don't Matt to the show don't tell me times he called us from knowing him to bring it up every time you use the mood changes after that. No, I don't think that the broccoli look, I've got a challenge flag that insists on will just toss over the ridge. Think yes yes 44204 inch number and taking a break come back and press conference conversation off the press conference of the Sean Watson is significant to say the least. He spoke today. That's next on the rich doesn't show 844204 inch numbered here on the rich eyes and show all right. Let's let's take gosh let's take a David New York you're here in the Jesuits of Dave no metropolitans. I cleaned my I got a call and on about a lot and you know like whatever like to get it right. But the problem is hot like I think it to have a guy something like that reworking contract and investigate the contract that you know I'll get that, but you know you can extrapolate like it came $20 million 5,000,002 light that the bad crap like what the different like Bernie made off like I need money offshore bank account.

I think that I appreciate it. Thanks so much, cleans, breaks and home of the Mets using the team structure to steal this way because they knew what was coming. Well I mean they're trying to see how the other players and most of my cash, but so it's just awful. He said we came on the air today with the news that the Sean Watson's six-game suspension with no fontanelle 11 game suspension with a $5 million fine and the league and the Browns.

I think kicking in $1 million each to send the fine money and their money towards groups fighting sexual assault and preventing trying its best to prevent it and I said I was hoping that there would be counseling included in this and there is there is and I didn't think Watson would speak to anything the Browns would speak to. I just let let this situation speak for itself, but man they just decided to speak now and I guess get it out of the way. The only reason why least like it's fresh now out of the way. There's no reason to let this linger anymore.

We've now officially turned the page you hear that phrase all the time. It's about the future in turning the page and before Watson's press conference.

He put out a statement and the statement reads. I'm grateful that the disciplinary process has ended and extremely appreciative of the tremendous support I have received throughout my short time with the Browns organization. I apologize once again for any pain this situation has called I take accountability for the decisions I made my focus going forward is on working to become the best version of myself on and off the field and supporting my teammates, however, possible while I'm away from the team. I'm excited about what the future holds for me in Cleveland statement from the Sean Watson I take accountability for the decisions I made, referred to his world as a situation so please take accountability so now comes his appearance.

See if you spot the difference between his written statement and this always, that doesn't sound like taking accountability for direction on completely innocent just read everything that's all I ask is for everyone to read everything I've tried my best to read everything so the written version says I take accountability for my actions in this one is like I didn't disrespect anybody like we can sit here and argue about whether he sexually assaulted anybody because if he did the shipping criminal charges and there wasn't. There's also the version of sexual assault that the independent judge Sue L. Robinson said, was met. If this was nonviolent, and there's a lot of people whose world where they are expert in battling sexual assault and violence. Here's like what nonviolent sexual assault watch that and if he didn't sexually assault anybody were then wanting the NFL statement that came out today that announcing suspension that Watson agreed to does it say that the league and the NFL and the Browns are resulting in a $7 million donation to support the prevention of sexual misconduct and assault so this situation in which women were impacted using words that Watson's said has led to a suspension undefined that he agreed to and his team. Spending money to help combat sexual assault. That's weird and he didn't think he was going to get suspended because he was innocent then why would there be a contract on the table that only hits him in the pocket for the suspension for $600,000 in change because the way the contract was set up for his first year.

Most of it is free from being garnished in a suspension because of the way it was put onto paper with the Browns just suggested out of the goodness of their heart medicine just in case you know you look us in the lion and.Telus we should trade for you and send all those draft picks and make all this money fully guarantee just in case. Maybe not just get it we will do what will just to help you out this how much we love you DeShawn is working to make sure that any suspension that happens this year is and hit your money while you know what you have to do that because I am innocent. Disrespect anybody amendment do anything untoward. Anybody even though now in the suspension hits on putting into a piece of paper that I take accountability for my actions. When asked, you said you take accountability for actually see your innocent you'll say what you said is this make sense to be honest, it certainly doesn't sound like somebody who you put up that NFL statement one more time. Commissioner Roger Caddell in that statement said the following. DeShawn is committed to doing the hard work on himself, that is necessary for his return to the NFL mentioning that the settlement requires compliance with a professional evaluation and treatment plan for him. Why agreed to that. If you didn't do anything wrong. Well, because the NFL is just decided on narrative. I guess they're going to just blow straight through the facts.

Jimmy hassled the owner of the Browns, who bestowed this contract on the Sean Watson was asked about this disparity. What I think that I think in this country in the world deserve second chances. Okay, I really think that is never supposed, never supposed to be part of society, yet no chance to rehabilitate okay you can say will that's because it is court is just in the only every day. You deserve a second chance we get green plot second chance.

Okay, that's what you okay. Hoping this will work out and we have strong belief, it will doesn't mean we don't have people affected, so we strongly believe strongly believe deserve a second chance bleeps on Watson's second and at least I give them credit for his honesty that he's a star quarterback. So he's good look aside on giving him this chance that he wouldn't give to what Joe Smith or whatever okay and so at least I give him no kudos for being honest. Even though all my God is that just beyond the last thing that should be said, but he did say it and and at least he is honest yeah were giving a met second chance, but he did point out they gave Kareem Hunt a second chance will not right now.

But long story short is no people are saying the Sean Watson doesn't deserve a second chance. It's people deserve a second chance deserve it when they've admitted what they did the first time and thus people are more open to that second chance. Even though we understand the second chances being afforded to this person because of their immense talent. It's much easier for us as fans to buy. If we understand the person who's getting that second chance understands what the first chance blew up and that we feel they are deserving of their second chance because they're remorseful about the first chance being blown up the loss. The follow-up about what about the disparity between saying in the statement written. I accept responsibility and then the spoken word before that press conference with the Haslam's and the general manager, in which he said everything but what was the basis for saying in a statement the other day that Sean was remorseful when he continues to say.

Did anything wrong.

And on top of that, Robinson said that she counted so no in her investigation with the question, what makes you say were around them every day.

Sitting until just day of that Jackson well is that counseling is making progress in all civil litigation. Okay, so a lot of what killed Sean back was counseled by his again.

He's being very honest. I mean we can't sit here and say remorse about something when it's going to cost them time to change and do you hassled me owner of the Browns as well talk about hey, it's a process it's a process which means she believes he is should be more remorseful than assaying guilty of something, and that he isn't remorseful enough yet and I guess if this is a process that makes it even more ugly because he had legal problems hanging over his head. So let's put it all together and the legal problems. I guess what there's still one suit out there so he can't even today say the words that he put in his written statement. None of this makes sense and you know all of it is disappointing and I can only hope again based on what I have read and what I believe what I believe. Hopefully the counseling that that is provided is something he takes seriously and that he comes back a better person because he's coming back and he's going to come. He's gonna quarterback the Cleveland Browns and all Browns fans will have to figure out their feelings on this and I can only imagine that when he does score touchdowns.

A lot of the internal struggle will be external sharing. I got it. I totally understand that and it will be easier for all of us to do that.

If he comes back and can be able to look into a camera and say the words that he's written down and that the rest of the Browns organization currently is spending their time and their reputation and their words trying to say for him 844204 Rich numbered I'll take a break when we come back will take some your calls and then the preseason big time preseason week begins tonight. I've got a list of five rookies yes and a list of five rookies.

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He saw in high school who me well okay now think I was in high school 74 okay and I wasn't blessed and that would make me like 80 years old right now. Chris yeah so all your let's talk football Let's talk some football preseason action begins tonight. You week two of the preseason bears with Rochon Smith found in the holding in on the sideline taken on Gino Smith starting for the Seattle Seahawks because Mr. Locke Scott: on ESPN. We had Louis Riddick on the program yesterday is common name with Orlowski big bag leaves Laura Rutledge lumen field lumen field right lumen field is at the is that the name of the company and in severance lumen technologies. Oh my God, so maybe maybe Seahawks fans will just spell the same with you not remember when they were what they see you and I want to not remember this whole season is Chris Brock, Chris Brock presented the chat and the underlying both of these teams okay for the record, all right. Even so, which is so much was bandied about about a lot of these guys some not.

I got five rookies who did well in week one. I need to say I need to see more that starting tonight. Music top five rookies I need to see more of that from entering preseason week number two very arcane very very small subset of the top five, but you like the guy I love you love this. If everyone else.I hope you do it number five of the slits were to see the gonna see the because you Chris or say a lot about the Seattle Seahawks and a lot of other people are saying they're not going to be very good now can be very good, and part of the reason why the way they could be better is if some of the kids shine upside out there fast on offense fast on defense and clearly if some of these guys are to be open and the quarterback everybody believes is not that plus a bag of chips needs to be held upright or they have to run the ball. Charles cross everybody I need is the same to Charles Cross. A lot of people are raving about this kid that tackle and he did do very well in Pittsburgh. In week one. Let's see what the kid does tonight I will see it. I need to see more to him and I need to see more of the Seahawks the next couple weeks but I want to see what Charles cross is up to number four on my list is I got two quarterbacks are.

I got to quarterback say he went six 411, 407 yards near five rushes for 38 on the ground because it's more that the Tennessee Titans quarterback who certainly caught the Amar Jackson saying that this could be something in the league now is coach you know variable was impressed because variable set. I need to see him him guys were actually open when they're open, which means okay.

He's not seeing the field all that well that makes that it's understandable is just a sneaky feeling I have inside that Lalique Willis is going to see start start here there this season.

Titans, whether it's due to injury or else I know this is not wanted me inside but I need to see more Lalique Willis Tennessee Titans. Can you look up their plan. Chris should have written this stuff down but the Tennessee Titans and the start Lalique Willis at some point I don't know if can be this season or not, but I have a sneaky suspicion to see more number three on this list.

Titans boxes Titans in box no time. That's what they been practicing all week number three is one of two George's grievance talking about on this list.

Yes, you the Chiefs offense right talk about quite a bit because I think without tiring till there's going to be a lot more uncertainty for defenses to trying key on somebody despite Travis Kelsey still being on team.

How about this kid out of Purdue that they drafted George Karloff.

This he in week one of the preseason had two hits on the quarterback tackle for loss in the sack. If he comes in and bring some of that energy and brings a pass rush with Chris Jones working on the inside in this kid on the outside so announcing I'm still just talk to myself and the Chiefs are to be better than a lot of people think in this kid is a reason why that's number one. Chiefs are playing the commanders on Saturday. Number two on the list. Speaking to commanders. This kid is common on the outside trying to win the race and just saying he might wind up being the quarterback rookie quarterback to start a game first this year. Certainly, if you don't believe in Carson Wentz on you see what Sam Howells often now George Karloff. This may wind up in his lap, but I need to see what Sam Howells can do because he looked really sharp against Carolina and preseason week number one and he's got an isolate factor to and you know what is coach Matt Brown told us about him that when he got drafted part of the draft.

We didn't we didn't really do him any favors my kids left. We didn't have a really good team around him. Sam how just keep an eye on him. I want to see what he's been doing and succeeds and see if Ron Rivera twitches in his direction begins to think that I doubt it I doubt it, but that's in his back pocket of Carson Wentz looks like the Eagles, Carson Wentz of jail and hurts his first year gets around number one I think is on everyone's list on anything more, George Pickens and see. I mean, based on what we saw by him again Seattle with the laid hands.

The beautiful grab in the toetapping end zone right it does lend credence to the Steelers get yet on not heard kid draft a wide receiver who is really really good and I bet you George Pickens wasn't drafted very high in certain fantasy drafts prior to the preseason week number one and anybody had a fantasy draft this week. I bet you it was like where Z and I need to see what the Steelers George Pickens is doing this preseason week drafted way higher and that Jackson so see if Javon Walker can going on some of those quarterbacks and then not Pickens might not get many chances, but those are my top five rookies on the see more out of coming up this preseason week that begins tonight in Seattle is my top five list my still some your thunder and start teaching people care more about your top fives mindset is it's the resizing so rich that the TD Jimerson show you the fact I was yesterday when you gave out and I'll deals like it was candy. I think we gave out honey.

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