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October 15, 2022 12:30 pm

MJ Sage

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October 15, 2022 12:30 pm

Welcome fellow adventurers! This week's show is part 6 of a series of shows, that go into detail on the 6 different stages a man is meant to go through, from the womb to the tomb. The final stage discussed this week is the "Sage" stage. The clips are from "Star Wars The Last Jedi," "The Mask Of Zorro," and "Braveheart." The journey continues, so grab your gear and be blessed, right here on the Masculine Journey Radio Show.

Be sure to check out our other podcasts, Masculine Journey After Hours and Masculine Journey Joyride.

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Welcome masculine journey. We are glad the with us today and we are finalizing the stages of the mass country know it's not the end of our show. Maybe you don't think it is not the end of our show depending on how this plays out. And it is the end of this series were doing on the actual stages of mass almost shed a tear. I think I spent monetary learned on the bit onto Charlotte with us about what were talking so we been going through the six stages of a masculine guy, not 12. Like I referenced before the show.

Absentmindedly, I don't know what I was thinking that the six stages.

We went through boy here boyhood 0 to 12 is the age cowboy Ranger, I get into if you want to hear the details of the points of learning in the wilderness. We decided I think on every other show. But I will go in place and identify the stages cowboy Ranger and mid-20s warrior 1630 and beyond love her late teens restful to the rest of life keying 30 to 60's and then Sage 50s and 90s and the point is to is that worry me going through this why we even care you know where the stage in our life. Why, why do we care because that your certain things that you were supposed to get as came through life, particularly the boyhood and cowboy Ranger stage that God has a way of taking you back to those times of filling in those things, even the lawyer stage lever stage if you didn't do it right you know dislike content retaken a test. It's cool you have an opportunity and is in and this time you get the teacher to sit next to you and tell you how to do this to you know whatever you're going through many stages spiritual Groundhog Day math and he had a right now till you pass it on to beef confusing Freitag state ground.

There is spiritual Groundhog Day. You know you have a leader that takes her back to the key thing I think for me is that it's so cool to know that God had intentionality around this and this is echoed in David's life. If you go back and you look to Scripture.

You can find each of these stages in David's life the breath well. Exactly how Not in Scripture. If not, state that were Scripture appropriate, probably has progress.

I've just like you like Prego spaghetti's mind would've been right and all the fool state they lived most of the so and you actually have the first clip and this is kind of going to be the Yankees were juxtaposition whatever it is not as ideal as a okay anyway.

Go ahead well and I did use clips from Braveheart all time and I started out I wasn't in a do that but not been I was doing the son ship talk there was a lot of that stuff that paralleled this. I did that for the entrenchment and was like, you know, when you look at his life.

When you look at that movie. There's there's not many movies where you can see the six stages developed in a character. Also, I a lot of times you pick up in the middle of my life and were now at the end of William Wallace's life as a Sage, but he only makes it to 35 heated totally fit the definition.

But with that said, this clip you can see where he functions as a stage well before he cheerfully had a lot of wisdom. He saw things in man and spoke into them and then you see at the end you see Robert the Bruce. He was speaking into his life. Another man, Robert the Bruce is dad speaks in his life and more of a negative Sage aspect and really just get to see the, the, I guess that's where you talk about juxtaposition you're seeing the opposites of what it is to be a good Sage and bad that we all have the opportunity to have sages speak in a life that doesn't mean Roy's good Sage is right right in you to hear this, where Robert the Bruce has to decide whom I gonna follow the lead of on the people that's given me about right. One other point to is is when you hear Wallace talking here. Yeah, he's almost stepping back and allowing these function kinds I can't leave the people and he stepping back in and in putting that on Robert the Bruce are really saying. I see this in you your strength. You have the right place in this you know to to the kingship, but as he is doing and I think you've really function as a Sage is a kind of passing that on this to negotiate more than I can remember was the basis to make slightly physically we require every soldier you consummate personal escorts even yourselves. We need to know such a force update against us is time to discuss other options you wish, at least to lead your men onto the field box or a better deal with long before you tucked tail and run selenium defeat for São Tomé Johnson, William would not support this. You must on the last now than I say you Scotsman. I'm ashamed to call myself one selenium speak with me alone.

I beg you more than anyone ever dreamed of fighting these nonsense like rage coverage will be underage help in the name of Christ, help yourselves now is a chance if we join we can win if we win welding will have what none of us have ever had before. He was a frightful lead and had a strength in UIC at this tonight like the clients cannot be the way just so you know those are not upon drawing this I gave my word. Now I just being a leader is sending son again you you what I tell you must do, not from me enough yourself for a country coming you. You mentioned that the statement he makes all men compromise that's actually from a different part of the movie, but his attitude man have to compromise to get what he wants Wallace as a totally different vision and that vision came from the battlefield that came from uncle Fox Argyle speaking into his life and telling them you know that he needs in a just data how to live as a man and how to get his heart, so I'm having trouble in my throat as I think you need any appreciate II think that when you look at William Wallace's life. You did get to see all these things that are poured into him and when we do at boot camp and we do that, the son ship talk once it's been able to do that best thing that becomes not one of the best things that comes from it is seeing how God uses people in each of these different stages in your life that you live so far to help father you sometimes him directly but often through other men absolutely engineer clip would be next, and so this is from the mask of Zorro and so you want to tell us a little bit about that stepped on my cord for that you know where hopefully that wasn't quite this actually is a favorite clip of mine.

I've used before for other reasons. You have the wounded warrior getting drunk in the bar about the trade, a precious emblem emblem stored output port IQ for booze and Don Diego intervenes. You'll hear a fight with begins with get out of my way old man and you want to thank me. Two seconds later, but that's about a 3045 second one-sided battle between Don Diego the Sage and the wounded warrior, and this is an he is wounded because his brother was killed by a fellow that sort provided me of George Custer just know and we will going to that, but it's a squid, listen to the edit. Sorry I should not take something like that for me a glass of wine, not angry. No condition to get the Dragon it welcome to saving your life. No, not today, is trying to go team to drink as my friend. You would've thought they saving that they then would revenge of the site took to just as you know, that is a saying of video saying he was ready to must appear if you want to kill this man. I can help you and I can teach you how to think and to take your revenge on this disintegrated dedication.

Take time. I was once long and he says something important matter. When the pupil is ready the teacher will arrive. One of the main points of being a Sage is passing on your experience or learning. I've had my father was the first that I've had several men in my life were wonderful sages that showed up when I was ready to listen and not before, and I think that to me was the key to this made my choice and clipped. It's a great clip from the standpoint you've got something that's societies dismissed right in on Don Diego that scan in the shadows and have Alejandro that's definitely dismissed them that Unisys get on the way old man you know that has nothing to offer.

It's exactly where in the sky should be wounded, but he's confident in his role as a Sage and that was one of things and feels to me most about Bianco. He is basically the retired Zorro and Alejandra was the upcoming Zorro that both heroic, but he's in a place in his life where it's not his place to be. The warrior king is placed on the new man is.

That's a great movie to go back and watch from that standpoint to see a Sage really speak in the life of the warrior becoming a king. He stepping into that masculine journey.org to register for the upcoming boot camp coming up November 17 to the 20th that that's not that far away about five weeks. I think the register today will see you in a few weeks but will come back after the break. One of the things it's been a true joy to me is having my sons there with hands and watching them get an understanding that I wish I would have told the man in understanding what is and how to stay away and receive journey. One of my favorite things about boot camp. The favorite thing about campus every time I know I'm not seeing anyone that has encounter God knows, generally speaking, it's nothing we expect the same register masculine journey.our welcome back to masculine journey that is your right.

He and the song is wise man I didn't know that song before I searched it and found it not heard of the band before but only because I think my brother made me listen to the group. It's something going on and when I had no control. He was 10 years older. Anyway, Davey is something I can when you surface on Jesus type Wiseman in the YouTube search by chance. I don't really remember what I hike that I did and that song came out like seven times like in top of it so improvident or Google yet.

I think you to know it Wiseman what I like about that that lyrics a little part of it. That's of course actually he says I like a blind man in the sun you now so that not only can I see the sons in my face if I could say I couldn't see I enter times we face in our life and in and in that song what I heard was selling this and I want to Sage in my life.

I want someone to step in and tell me where to go what to do how it to make that next turn. You know you may not be able to guide me everywhere, but at least tell me where not to go in and said that's why use that bump coming back and and that's really for a Sage you I think ours is one of the few societies around the world that doesn't recognize the importance of the Sage when you look at so many other cultures in their still the key leader in the house right and yeah eventually the power has passed, but they still typically have an ultimate answer in on a lot of what happens in dealing with some people I've learned from different cultures noted although that the power transfers there's always deferment back to the elders and in our society that seems to be lost on and that such a sad thing to sages have so much to offer in the transition. I was assigned Sage by somebody had just met at a boot camp a number of years ago and I was sort of lost when I was in a close friend recently said something to the effect of don't think you've been in your king stage of that challenge me and I looked at it finally took it where you're supposed to take it and ask God that I miss getting and got an immediate response. Look at your family and that was a successful king stage, but I wasn't disappointed not being here last week because King is one that never really was comfortable with that and I was looking at it from the beginning but I love Sage because that is a place where you have something to give and you're comfortable enough with it that if somebody doesn't want it. That's okay that's on them. But if I come to you. It's a real hug from the Lord for me when someone asked where he gets. My opinion on things. Thank you, Jim. One of the things from there that I think excites me the most about the Sage stage and I think that you realize that your entering into a is where it says you know God's friend here that that takes a journey to get there. Innately their steps of friendship that, like whether talking in this particular part is intimacy, deep, deep intimacy and and I look forward to getting any deeper in intimacy and friendship with God.

As I continue to move more and more towards that stage and Internet. One of the things that I've been concerned about is a lot of people around me, including one or two in this room have a much what I considered a deeper relationship with God, closer talking more, but mine is almost a level of comfort where if I don't pray for the day.

I let Tom I'm usually ready, but I pray when I feel it's necessary and sometimes prayers especially corporate ones seem to go on and on and on about nothing that's really important eternally. And so I that is a most appealing thing about the state and the only venue back to. Apparently I jumped the gun and you hadn't read those things. I jumped ahead whenever I was only just jumped into the clip, so we were so ready to go but yet we encumber the identifiers that key points of learning for the Sage. What we covered the ages bit or how it's wounded. So Marie needs off real quick. It's not the time to check out its time to offer counsel and wisdom bringing way and learning to younger man knows God's friend as you pointed out, Sam lives in deep communion was God in Jim not an expert and then how it's wounded through dismissal we can all unify with that of the season but them often and he's right.

Let them ride into the sunset treated is no longer relevant old-school yesterdays man or man remains undeveloped. If the man does not take the journey or fails to learn from it.

Yeah, it's you know men that say I'm not getting into those wounds and shove them down in a minute you know not deal with them. It's hard for them to ever enter into that Sage stage you until they really attended dealt with some of that stuff been called out love that place so readily that can delete this to your clip really dies, because what I've experienced is me, along with many many other man and I just feel like lolling out. That seems like it was meant for more than this. I was meant for deeper relation on trying to find our way and so one of the neat things about the mask on journey. When I first entered it was like the value of the Sage stage and so we went after Vinnie, but Vinnie wasn't so easy to make a stemming he he he didn't necessarily this one offers advice because he been wanted so much and same thing we value heralds along the same lines is in a here you have older man is been through all these different things, but getting them to be a Sage ain't so easy and so here is a fascinating clip from actually the last Jedi you have Ray who is the up-and-coming jet S Jedi girl anyway who is going to call out Luke Skywalker. But again, those of us to understand was gone. Here, most sages at some point time and failed miserably and usually due to their pride and so is Luke Skywalker is struggling with all that and because he sees himself as a failure. He thinks he can't be a Sage and so she continues to call them out and it's it's a fascinating clip garden plant daily hypocrisy humorous trend at the height of their powers, they allowed.city is to rise create the environment training is me. I need someone nice and she's referring to is Carlo who is actually Han Solo sun for those who you know Star Wars Han Solo sun would actually have the force with him because he was last son as well, but he turned to the dark side. It would appear starting over, and it does look like he failed, but interestingly she says she won't. And again. Lucas taken this on you know is his failure, which is fascinating is how many of us take on our lives as some aspect of them is a failure in the story is far from over is all things to work together and apart from me you can do what you know when you work together as they do through the next two or three movies you will see what happens. But you know in my own personal journey. I get the value of taking Nate the humble position that she takes here number she's being very humble saying I need your help. But I need you to step up right and I need you to be willing to risk you know entering into this battle with me, and which ultimately up to save the universe to say that anyway you know it's it's very much that that and so I know you share the same thing with me, Sam, that the joy of having the heralds and the genies in this journey with us to offer you know somebody's advice it in, and I love what what goes into the Sage stage is what Jim had mentioned that your internal life becomes more than your external life right because the kids are gone and all sorts of things and you need to have a chance to enter into that deeper relationship with Christ. But it's interesting. I really think this clip honed me in on the value of humility is what Luke needed was the humility but not false humidity when he was going to write here was you know I failed. We have a wounded right I am a wounded Sage and eat and eat and think about Emmy times we heard that from Vinnie in he didn't feel like she had value because he had that woman so it's kind of a neat thing that you know it's all of our jobs-I think to reach out to those who we know have wisdom and ending and express their value. Yeah, you look back going think about any thing about most times it you would really get going is when he got frustrated enough with with all the stuff we were San Diego listen here you say staff gave out Gatorade kinda had enough there and heralds a lot different yet.

I think when I see sages in my life that I look back on Kenneth step back. It's either been because of the wounded portions of it right or it's there there humbled by the fact that the longer they walk with God, the more they realize that they have to work on pregnancies humbleness that kinda keeps them from from entering. And unless you can invite a man in an argument with this whole episode and didn't get our resident Sage and which is not going to be great.

We were going to get them in the next after hours we got three more clips to get in evening Mr. Miyagi what we call it what best oh Miyagi Galway Vestal Miyagi coming up in the after hours with the masculine journey.org to register for the upcoming boot camp November 17-20 we will have another entrenchment.

The announcement upregulated this year before we solidify the plans that announced again masculine journey.org, November 17-20 register will see you there and got something cool for you. This is Truth Network