From Iran to Ex-gays

A lot of important new some special guests, you will miss today's modifier stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown was the director of the coalition of conscience have president of fire school of ministry getting to the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH. Jim is Dr. Michael Brown, a blessed and happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. Yes it was yesterday. So, blessed happy Father's Day to you to those who are hurting, separated from your kids separated from your families. By God's grace work.

May there be restoration for those who are alienated from the most important father of all the heavenly father made this be the season in your life of getting right with him. Michael Brown delighted to be with you. I got two special guests with me. One is going away and on what's happening in the Middle East America.

Iran is a rod in fact guilty of torpedoing a tanker one of ours. What's gonna happen with that and then and poke at the bottom of the hour will be talking about being ex-gay command of homosexual practice, we gotta wide range of topics to cover today. I make it to some calls 866-34-TRUTH but just want to alert you about 90 minutes from now I'll be doing a chat on YouTube so if you go to our YouTube channel.

That's a SK DR Brown asked Dr. Brown if you're watching on YouTube or Facebook right now. It will be on our YouTube channel about 90 minutes from now I'll be doing an exclusive chat answering your questions. So even if you are unable to call you can post your questions and I'll be doing that for about an hour, starting roughly 90 minutes in a little bit under that all right some important news breaking news today regarding sweet cakes by Melissa and I want to give you the background here in terms of this court case the Supreme Court has sent it back to a lower court but with a directive. So here's the background a few years ago a lesbian woman with her mother walked into sweet cakes by Melissa by Erin and Melissa Klein. At that point they were juggling job duties while caring for infant children and of this woman went in with her mother and she had really like sweet cakes by Melissa what you find out about them earlier than all of the so she comes in and she wants a wedding cake for her and her lesbian partner right now reading up on the case.

It seems that this was a very emotional moment for this for this woman and her partner and they wanted to bring some type of of solidity with her foster children and say okay we are truly married and so on. The mother Catholic use to oppose the idea of gay marriage but was now accepting because of having to gay children so going there. Talk to Erin Klein about everything okay great, great, and then I do need the names for the for the wedding cake and gives the two women's names and sought him so I can do that I'm a Christian now remember, he wasn't refusing to do business with this woman. He wasn't refusing to serve her. He wasn't refusing to sell her stuff.

It was simply saying when it comes to making a cake which 44 bakers like this. This is a major artistic endeavor. This is something it's it's expensive. It's a big thing that they do.

This is a big part of their business as well so he politely declined.

Based on his religious convictions and and again this is a this is a major issue. Can someone coerce you into doing something creatively that violates your convictions so could a Christian go into, say, a accompanied T-shirt company. They do all kinds of graphics and things like that and mass-produce or sing or whatever you need and so on going there.

It happens to be owned by a gay couple.

You don't know that two gay guys and you go in there and say hey there's a gay pride event taking place in our churches can be walking through sharing the gospel and and we want like a graphic of of two men holding hands like an X over it and then the scripture about marriage of Genesis 224 but marriage me a man and woman, and so on. And this is not where we gay we don't want to do that. Should they be forced to do it by the law should they be penalized to do it. It is, is that right or fair to them. I was nice. It will then give your business is your prerogative is your prerogative anyway. That's what happened here. The, the woman burst into tears. She's upset now she's embarrassed her mother so she's in the car crying. The mother goes back in their Erin can't explain scripturally from Leviticus. What he believes homosexual practice is wrong is wrong for men to lie with the man's with a woman with them obviously tells him all homosexual practice is wrong of the mother's as I used to feel that way but I don't anymore and then Erin Klein explains his views. This is where we stand. The mother goes back talk to the daughter endorsed her lips that she gets home tells her partner. The partners terribly upset.

They end up going to court over this courts end up forcing the clients to pay a $135,000 fine emotional trauma, etc. if you read the lists of everything that these women said that they suffered because of this one particular and and unable to function normally you will is okay there a lot of other emotional issues going on here, the words for this one thing to trigger that amount of emotional trauma, since you lied about God. Those but for to trigger that amount of emotional trauma. There obviously other issues going on is just like if you pat me on the show on the shoulder.

I scream even Pappy that Hari must really like is that shoulder surgery, so those going on there. I'm terribly sunburnt something so in any case, the clients appeal the for they ultimately have shut down their business entirely right that appeal. No no no. So and I met them. Some years ago at a conference sweet godly folks serious about the Lord and not going around complaining his victims because Jesus is the Lord is speaking up for what's right, speaking up for others so this is now gone to the Supreme Court, and there are thousands of cases that appeal to the Supreme Court of year seven or 8007 like that and what some in the hundreds asked hundred less 150 X to get heard either court and then some will have a certain ruling so so here's what happened. Liberty Counsel reports and assessments, shackles check of present organization him this would be councils reported on this Scotus reverses Oregon's decision to punish Baker's every greaser for sweet cakes bakery Melissa and are inclined today you Supreme Court sent the case back to the Oregon Court of Appeals, in light of the June 2018 decision in the masterpiece cake shop sweet cakes by Melissa versus Oregon Bureau of Labor industries involves Baker's bliss and are inclined to pay the hundred $35,000 judgment, etc. scroll down the Supreme Court's brief order directs the Oregon Court of Appeals to consider its 2018 ruling in masterpiece cake shop versus Colorado civil rights commission last year, the Supreme Court ruled that government decision-makers must not be hostile to religion when deciding free exercise of religion claims.

The court ruled that the Colorado civil rights commission violated neutrality required by the First Amendment by making disparaging comments against Jack Phillips religious beliefs regarding same sex marriage in the case of the client. Similar negative comments were also made about their Christian faith.

Today, the Supreme Court granted the clients petition vacated the judgment and sent the case back to the Court of Appeals directing that the judges apply the masterpiece cake shop decision. The petition was filed by former ambassador to the European Union seaborne, great, etc. Olympic councils founder and chairman Max Tabor said this is a great victory for the clients of religious freedom. It seems clear that the Supreme Court has all but direct that the court of organ appeals to dismiss the charge against our Melissa Klein by find the mess to be cake shop opinion the broader messages the government cannot be hostile toward Christian faith and values. Okay, so here's what has happened.

Here's what is not happened.

What has not happened is that the court has not ruled definitively when you have a conflict between religious rights." Gay-rights essay quote gay-rights because there is ambiguity in terms of exactly all that. That would mean and entail and what is protected by the Constitution and what is not. But was broadly referred to as gay-rights or LDP BT rights, where there is a conflict between religious rights and LGBT rights. What happens consistently for some years now any state. That's how the law against discrimination based on sexual orientation and/or gender identity is really consistently ruled against religious right standing in that way and is others have pointed out, Kai Feldman, who was the Obama administration served and served in the trump administration and equal opportunity commission is a lesbian law professor Jensen pilot when she looks at this analysis. She could not find the case where religious rights would win over LGBT rights. That's the way things were leaning in structured billets complete outrage and contrary to some of the founding principles of our country which which are built on religious rights, religious freedom. That's why people came here the first place to get away from oppression of the government and church oppression, and so on. That was dictating things on everyone that there could be religious rights and freedoms for those with different views. In any case.

In any case so question that this is a fundamental value.

In America, religious freedom and freedom of conscience and freedom of speech, and it's getting violated consistently by LGBT activists. So the court did not make a definitive decision and say that here's the rule when it's X versus Y rule in favor of actually rule in favor of what they did not do that definitively. But what they didn't do with masterpiece cakes possess. They said look you actually exercised animus towards the man's religion unit way these things out is to equals Dennis okay you got this concern here that this concern here really bounce up fair question. How do we balance it out. No, those rather a presupposition of bigotry, a presupposition of the rawness of the Christian position at a state hostility towards religion which is flatly forbidden. So the court sent it back to Colorado and by the way, they're still going after Jack Phillips and there's 1/3 case and come in after Manaus, a transgender will want to bake a cake for me of his death as concerted and over as could be, but by God's grace Jack Phillips continues to stand for what's right and like it or not, he has become a standard speak the truth in love, but don't violate your convictions in this way. Other cases are to continue to flare around so the court did not make the final ruling. This is, here's the guideline. Whenever this comes up. This will but they clearly pushed back against with the Oregon courts.they clearly pushed back against what was done against the client, they vacated the order and said they'll re-evaluated based on our principles because you had animus and hostility that if they still rule against the client, then you could appeal based on that case itself, while they claimed it was just to equal situations and and so we ruled accordingly and then that could be appealed to the Supreme Court so there's a a further ruling were looking for.

There's something more definitive that were looking for but this is positive. Now, one more point. There's an excellent chance that if Hillary Clinton were Pres. and she was the one who had appointed two justices to the Supreme Court all right or if she had been president than Obama might have been able to appoint the less justice and then Hillary Clinton the one after that. Right. Either way, you have two liberal justices in and you could pretty well backed that this would've gone in the opposite direction because of all the animus towards religious beliefs right there on the court. These big cases take if we don't only have to go underground for our faith dive her face what's happening on the world of liberties services are right back with special guest David users were going to talk about Middle East file name the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown fire. But whenever we can, we bring in folks far more expert, who are focused on key issues in this case the middle east David Ruben himself victim years back of a terrorist attack, former mayor of Shiloh, Israel, and author of the brand-new book trump and the Jews is website David Ruben are UBI and David Ruben Israel.com Easter to shed some light for us on what happened in Iran with the torpedoing bombing of the Stryker David, welcome back to Lana far thanks for joining us so Sir, can you tell us. Do we have real evidence that Iran is involved in torpedoing a tanker in the Middle East, and if so why would they risk provoking America here clearly. And it's not the first time. Continuation of the pattern of attacks that have occurred over the past few months in the Persian Gulf and the Gulf Monastery move and this is going to be continuing.

I suspect until it is clearly stopped until until Pres. Trump takes the bait and text them what they want to provoke an attack from from American. It may be self-evident from their viewpoint, but no America. We think we got all this power in Iran because their economy and everything else will over the one provoke an attack. Well, why would they want to because the uranium don't do things based on common sense. They never have. But probably never will. Until this regime done away with and depth. Remember this all started in the night too late 1970s with the Ayatollah Khomeini and his Islamic revolution. Remember, there were was 54 American held by the Iranians that the these people are Islamic fanatics and they will stop at nothing until they achieve their main goal Bluetooth exporting the Islamic revolution quoted from this is what the goal is. So what we what what we can do about that how we can stop that.

What you do when you have a bully who was temping you over and over and over again. Basically the response and I believe Pres. Trump's response will be to eventually hit them and hit them hard, but he is not going to let them dictate the rules of the game. So as far as larger American interests. How does this tie in.

Most of us know it is a tanker in the Middle East Persian Gulf couple knows when we get against torpedo bonuses have to do with America.

Why should this be of concern to Americans was an excellent question.

What we what we know that the American economy is not really fueled by the Persian Gulf countries anymore that we don't win it without reliant we are leaving the United States. Sometimes my my identity as a dual American Israeli citizen comes across as though though. So yes I do sometimes identify with the United States as an American citizen and and and yet the United States does not rely on Saudi Arabian oil anymore. The United States has become quite self-reliant becomes the oil partially thanks to Pres. Trump would house opened up the energy and industry in the United States but the reality is that the United States is tied to the world economy of every free country in the world. Israel and Europe and Japan.

All these countries included are tied to the world economy and whatever happens will affect the United States ultimately economically if the Japanese economy falls apart if the European economies fall apart because the run is preventing the flow of oil in the in the Middle East.

So that's what this is all about.

That's why attacks on tankers by Iran are a threat to the world economy and the threat to the United States as result, the recent video evidence that something of the mind being removed could could you give us details and that's a folks knowing exactly what we know and don't know what we do know that that the tankers were attacked and we we do know that that one of them was a Japanese tanker and that's kind of ironic because the Japanese Prime Minister was visiting Iran at the time and that is purpose of the visit was to mediate a peaceful arrangement released to lower the tensions between the United States and Iran wall while Prime Minister acted within in Iran. The Iranians attacked annoyed the two oil tankers and one of them was a Japanese tanker melt and we know that it was them. What one thing, there was a mine that had not exploded and the uranium sent the abode of the Revolutionary guards the Iranian Revolutionary guards to retrieve that unexploded mine and the American government had had videos that which they publicized and it's quite clear that there is uranium revolution in regards to why, why would they be going to retrieve an unexploded mine.

If they didn't even know about the attack if they didn't even know any of the details of the attack, and they were just an innocent bystander know obviously they were the mastermind behind the attack and again knowing how they've exploded terror throughout the world, especially in the Middle East is so surprised to know they should be associated with that you have books been out a few months just checked on Amazon getting tremendous reviews there and selling well trump and the Jews. I know that that this the new areas designated throughout much trump in the Israel over the weekend so the Trump Heights in the community in Israel but the Trump and the Jews. What even into the book and and how does it is as larger question of American the Middle East has a tie-in with your book trump on the Jews from tremendous supporter of strong ties between Israel and the United States, and it really troubled me when I when I saw that this this was a clear policy this with the clear direction. It was going and was obviously he was going to to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital and: height ultimately as as sovereign Israel and I made it very strategic: height in the north and and all of this was happening and he was also making it clear that he wanted out of that Iran nuclear deal, which was disastrous for Israel for the United States for the free world. So these were all very good things and we seen many good good things since then, but when I exited I have to reconcile this is very very pro-Israel president and this president that really has a heart for the Jewish people with the fact that there a lot of Jews in America who were very active in Democratic Party and and who are among Trump's main adversaries, and I answer this does make sense and the religious Jews. The Orthodox Jews in America are among the biggest supporters. So I asked that I have is to research it and help people tend so what is obvious is a lot more to get into midweek and we can focus on the on the book. Another time, but you live in Israel during Orthodox to the majority of Israeli Jews are more secular and then you have the ultra-Orthodox population. There testimony breaks down along many different lines in Israel. Contrary to the way it is in America it's it's it's fascinating to compare all of those things, but Trump and the Jews.

That's a big bite to take what which what are some of the conclusions that you came to doing your research in terms of the liberal Jews in America the way they vote the Orthodox.

What would you come away with the some of the major findings that the trend in the American Jewish community is that the more liberal Jews are fading away.

Jewish roots are becoming weaker and weaker over time and are becoming less and less passionate about Israel and less and less passionate about their Jewish roots and as a result there just intermarrying growth doesn't mean that there that there intermarrying with pro-Israel Christians, for the most part their business intermarrying people who secular blue don't believe in too much except abortion rights and same-sex marriage. But what the Orthodox Jews. Community is the fastest growing Jewish community. The fifth segment Jewish population by far. Those who identify strongly with the Jewish roots are the ones who were going to be the future of American Zürich and they tend to identify more of the Republican Party and to the so there's some very fascinating trends. There the other thing of course of the sound is that Pres. Trump as as continue this trend of being a very very strong president when it comes to Israel United States ties and cooperation absolutely listen David, but we are out of time, but God willing I will continue the discussion, especially as we hear more about the deal of the century Middle East peace plan perspective on that cosmos is thanks much for joining us today says all right friends who both like David from and the Jews haven't read it yet, but trust me it has my interest. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown Americans from every background and that is the possibility of liberty and transformation in Jesus this past week every night from six till past 10 in the evening and then Sunday from 9 to 4 I taught an intensive class at Southern Evangelical seminary with about 10 students from Masters doctorate level and we were looking at sexual issues in the Bible. LGBT activism and the Bible with Scriptures speak to these issues and we were on the class and find out why you taking this and this with a small group of 10 was amazing to see how many people you have got a brother that's transgender you have got a cousin that's gay. I've got that this is so they were all dealing with is there hope for change. What should the church's position be I'm joined now by my friend and talk known for her own story of coming out of lesbianism mom with children now but campaigning to help those who struggle campaigning to bring a message of hope with an important conference coming up just in a few days so and welcome back to the line of fire. Thanks for joining us for having me Dr. Brown, let me ask you this. And when when you through liberty and Jesus found a new way of life. Did you realize that your story would be denied marked maligned and that people like you would be such an oppressed minority.

I know I'd like everybody else that could actually forgive me and I can start a new and I thought that was a pretty ordinary story. In a lot of ways you encounter the living God. But it turns out no one fact that the and it is a very offensive message to this culture and to believe that God can redeem people from homosexuality, has no offended certain groups of people that have bank on the fact that they're born again cannot change the value of their their mantra that their reason for living, not reason for living per se at their justification for living a gay life that when those of us who have actually experienced life change to life transformation from teaser. If the threat to that that statement so the fact that God can transform life if that's an affront that they actually denied it weaker and not that's not reasonable completely unreasonable to be that intolerant and evident another group of people. If the licensee you have someone say that the ghost of the trauma of recognizing their same-sex attracted and then they come out and they tell family I'm gay in their living that way is and then they really come to the Lord and coming to conviction and find liberty a new life in Jesus. And that's his have to come out again and and get rejected by the community.

This must be so embracing intolerant now there active campaigns to make it illegal for some of the same-sex attractions was a minor to get professional help of this is in about 15 states right now it's a legal California recently tried to pass a bill making it illegal for people of all age, get professional help with unwanted same-sex attraction or gender identity confusion.

This is an all out war. This is to say not only that, that you and multiplied thousands of others like you don't exist, but they're gonna do their best to make it impossible for you to exist. This is so this is a massive issue and could you explain what someone goes through when when there the wrestling on all sides of this now you come to Jesus you want to be free one.

Behold, there's a whole culture saying celebrate your gayness as a religious heresy saying God made you this way celebrated what went on inside of you to know. Hey, this is not what God has he has a better way by sexuality.

The Koran carries a holy God.

All of a sudden what that mattered to me and at that point I wanted to live to please the one that I encountered that you actually really exist that this letter not fairytale. It was a make believe it was God most high actually interested in me and wants to redeem man and left me and them that love rid me of my sin and the consequent the amazing amazing story of the redemption of tenant, either on don't know anyway when I began my walk with him. I was 19 years old and I had been pursuing the gay life I was uncertain about it. I was excited and often nervous and began embracing it and had no resistance whatsoever to embracing the church that I went to a party school event college UC Santa Barbara is where I went and found ready acceptance. Everywhere I went.

And then when I when actually gave my life to Christ and became a new creature in him. I began to want to live his way and at that point and I found a lot of reader. I found a live Everett from being made fun of in a car on the way to a rowing practice by a lesbian who had been a friend of mine who is just really mean in the car. There was stuck with all these other folks think and humiliated from that to you know it would've been easier for a lot of people to just say it except me as a as a lesbian woman as opposed to a born-again ex-lesbian may not became the challenge that what I figured out Dr. Brown is that honestly, if the efficient going with the stream. It's probably dead, you know, and fish generally swim upstream you know they they go around, but basically for going against the flow. There might be some life in you in a different reason for living than a lot of people expect normal after should be absolute, not her freedom for anyone in youth or adult to seek the help that they would like to injury overreaching and just to put this into context what year did you graduate from high school ages ago, 1981, and I graduated from high level right 1980 now right so even if you have bank again. Yeah but but but the fact the fact is that even back then were not so much today when I Thomas five years ago 10 years ago there was tremendous resistance in the years that followed you saying hey I'm I'm leaving this behind it was crazy that the gay activists they want perfection or the disqualified. In other words, if someone had a same-sex thought in the last 30 years, then they're not really free early as opposed to hey I was living a sinful lifestyle.

I no longer live that and I found liberty and wholeness and new life in Jesus. I know so many people it's their story and I know the whole range.

I know some that miraculously in a moment of time when from homosexual or heterosexual. I know folks that little by little, saw a decrease in same-sex attraction and a growing increase in opposite sex. I know others that this said no same-sex attraction and are happily living the celibate life with the common denominator is they know Jesus there living godly lives and their lives are blessed and overflowing so, and there is an important conference coming up in just a few days.

June 21 and 20 seconds of friends. Now is the time to get there. It is the hope 2019 conference it's going to feature top speakers on overcoming sexual sin. I'm looking at the list here Alex McFarland viewing Huntsville Corson others and Polk of course involved with this tell us what's going to happen at this conference where it's gonna be who should be there. Well, very beautiful Cochran with the court will be protected.

We are going to have exciting people yelling, things that don't all relate. We are calling a conversion therapist which we are not only never use coercion or anything like that, we appeal to individual who want to leave their lives apart from the constraints of same-sex attraction and have unwanted same-sex attraction fact that their primary focus is helping people who have unwanted same-sex attraction. He want to get a breakthrough you want to experience a new plateau.

I knew new growth.

In their life and so that the primary audience are secondary audiences. There are many, and they are significant as well, and that family and friends you have 111 20 just came out as gay men are now grappling with the grief of dealing with. How do I relate to my child how I show them love without approving of their lifestyle and that the primary question and if the delicate answer. There's a whole bunch of different ways to display affection and love without giving way to approval so that the secondary pastors and counselors as well so those who are coming alongside her want to support those who are struggling.

Also comfort them. Your ethically right were having Alex McFarland in Hunt, Julie Slattery is on the board at meeting Bible and also a doctor in psychology and fill Corson so we have a variety of different perspectives and there's a beautiful time on Friday night. In particular, after Dr. Slattery's presentation organa do a responsive prayer time at the profound time every single year and then Saturday filled with a whole bunch of other things as well. Joe Dallas will be there speaking and ministering the parents as well.

So what the great things happening at the always profound God shows up in people's lives are different. As a result of it is remarkable is not participated in conferences like these.

This is a friend and an ally you talk about people that have been beaten down, rejected, cast out, and yet full of hope, full of joy full of life. It's so important for the church to be staying together here pastors in the Minneapolis area Christians in the area get out to this conference. It's so important to be equipped even if this doesn't pertain to you personally. There others that you can meet minister to family members, friends, so again it's it's this weekend, June 21 and 22nd. Where do people go to find out about this.

The website he referred help network.org again restored hope network.org and then if you got to the top of the page and have the placement of the event and have her on the word event and to help conference so if that is a great place, will have all the information we are accepting walk-up registration so we would love to have you join us and it would be our privilege, though, to see lives transformed and offered to different testimonies of the shared beautiful at the beautiful time and I'm so grateful Dr. Brown that you joined FN minister to individuals as well. I know many, many are grateful. I'm sorry I missed your talk. I will. It's my privilege privilege and I know we join together in these things, friends, listen, here's what you can do. You know, folks, you got friends in the greater Minnesota area and grade a minute Minneapolis area let them know about this send them to restored hope network dots calm and that's also the place to go. You want to find out about okay, I'm dealing with unwanted same-sex attraction are struggling with different questions and and I'm I'm not exactly.org sorry.org yeah I'm struggling. I am looking for holes for health and family member know how to help them restored with these restore his network.org right and have an awesome conference things are. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

I don't say this I say this to be constructive. I say this to help push us towards reality yesterday was Father's Day. What happens when your father your biological father, the one who literally fathered you what happens when that person now identifies as a woman. What happens when that person has quote transition change their name, maybe even had sex change surgery. What happens how do you relate to that person.

Yes, this is a highly sensitive issue in many homes across America today, both for mothers and fathers were children of their mothers and fathers who have quote transition how they relate.

For some it's no problem whatsoever above average just embrace you, for your others what you say you're my dad. Your whole life. Now you my mom how how we relate these are real issues so I saw this report yesterday.

Kendall Jenner part of the larger Kardashian clan how that works out.

Kendall Jenner, one of 10 children fathered by Bruce Jenner sent him special greetings on Father's Day. There's a headline Kendall Jenner post sweet tribute to her amazing dad, Caitlin Jenner as she shares a throwback family steps so let's get this right. Kendall Jenner physical daughter of Bruce Jenner one of 10 children that he fathered as a male as a father as a dad. Kendall Jenner's thanks him a major amazing dad on Father's Day, but this is now Caitlin Jenner.

The headline this essay Bruce Jenner this dad Caitlin Jenner friends. This underscores the fact that you cannot tamper with reality.

With all respect to those who struggle with all respect to those in a totally separate class, namely intersex where there is biological or chromosomal ambiguity as opposed to whether the person is male or female were not talking about intersex were talking about someone who was a biological, chromosomal, male or female, who then identifies as the opposite of that. All respect whatever struggles they been through with ever with all respect whatever pain they live through with all respect whatever it has cost them to transition. I don't say this to mock or demean say this to say Bruce, Caitlin Jenner remains a father remains a dad remains a biological male remains someone whose DNA and genetics are mail. The matter what hormone sees on now here's what's so fascinating. If I talk like this on Twitter.

I would be guilty of mis-engendering and I could get banned from Twitter, referring to Bruce Jenner as Bruce, but is it mis-engendering if Kendall Jenner refers to Caitlin Jenner as her dad. I mean can you see the dilemma here in Canada. It is across the country. It is a crime to intentionally miss gender someone in New York City. You can be fined up to $250,000 in the workplace. If Joseph comes in and says on now Jane you can question you can ask for documentation from a psychologist or anything like that know if Joseph comes in and says I'm now Jane you have to refer to him as her you have to let him use the ladies bathroom. If you don't, you could be fined up to $250,000 is a current case in Canada were father did not want his 14-year-old daughter to transition to male, the court has blocked him from stopping his own daughter from getting hormone treatments to start to transition her over to male and he will be instantly arrested if he refers to his daughter by her name or refers to her as she or as his daughter will Kendall Jenner just referred to Caitlin Jenner as her dad. That's because he is the dad and remain the dad is you can change it.

And yet, you could go back and change your birth certificate that says you now female. You can actually do that you can change your birth certificate. There was a case in Canada. I believe the child was about 12 years old, was having a birth certificate change. Think of that going back in time going back in history and and and try to undo what's been done is actually born in a certain way.

If Bruce Jenner was born Caitlin Jenner was a female.

Then Bruce Jenner would not of fathered 10 children. Bruce Jenner would not be Kendall Jenner's dad friends. It's often been said that biology is not bigotry is not were just talking truth and facts friends that will end when a male competes against females. The as a biological advantage because he's a biological male.

These are just realities.

This is not bigotry. This is not hatred. This is not trans-phobias. In fact, because I focused on these issues over the years and listen to people and tell their stories read their stories. I understand this is tremendously painful. I tell you honestly, I cannot possibly relate to what someone goes through a Bruce Jenner what he's live through what is going to. I can't identify with. Nonetheless, my compassion does not move me away from truth.

Jesus came in the spirit of grace and truth and body grace and truth.

Grace and truth, compassion and truth, love and truth go hand in hand. It's love for me to say Kendall Jenner. You did the right thing and honoring your dad on Father's Day rather than transferring honor for your dad to Mother's Day because he now identifies as she he remains your dad, he remains a he he remains the father.

If God would speak to him, God would speak to him as a male as a father and we do him a disservice when we identify him as a woman and now celebrate his womanhood because he will never be a woman and he will never be a mother.

These are facts. Biology is not bigotry of Sigma DNA Lititz Stanford do not alter come on friends reality. Arch wanted to share that with you get that off my heart and speak the truth, the Civil War, we do about people who struggle. What was your let's let's back it up and asked this question right. What we do with with someone who's schizophrenic. Would we do with someone who's diagnosed with quote multiple personality disorder by say quote Bothell personality disorder because I've had other psychologist, is completely bogus. Don't even think of that is a reality that person's perception is quite real. I remember sitting with a university professor wants and his wife Nancy are having dinner with him and his wife, and at one point she said something that seemed out of character and a makeup names. He said let's say her name was was Audrey and he said to her with was that Sarah yes sir and then they went on talking then something else comes out later when it was that intranet. Yeah multiple personality disorder, but in the city were both Christians, but she suffers with this and it's a diagnosed condition and now East and I soon will. How do you deal with this is a Christian and he said on trying to lead each of the different personalities to Jesus wool ball respect gonna be a better way than that.

Some of schizophrenic do we say okay one day your gem nice Jim and the next day you're angry Jim, your Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, thing, or do we say will let's let's try to get to the root of that problem and help you it's the same here just because we don't have a handy easy solution in all cases doesn't mean that we collaborate with societal madness look is the example again. There are people who suffer with what's called be IID body identity integrity disorder. Now they are referred to as trans Ables right, not transgender but trans Ables so there their brain map their mind map tells them that they shouldn't have a right arm that they they shouldn't have. The left leg and therefore they are torment tormented by the presence of that it would be. I imagine if you had a head growing out of your shoulder would see monstrous and they finally have peace when there they're able to get the thing amputated like one guy in England he he froze his foot.

The impacted dry ice froze his foot in the their doctors were able to save.

He froze again. The head amputated. He is been so happy is the best thing he ever ever did and and there been people literally laid down by by train tracks the trains, but that the train sever their leg. I saw on Jerry Springer. Years ago I saw the video and see the show, but I saw the video where here's a guy, clearly a male dressed as a female with their with the with a wig or is going to Sarah for probably a wig and and wearing a dress. He's got the legs from from the knees down is a man identifies as a woman but is also suffered for body identity integrity disorder, still with a a chainsaw. He was a good amp. He was able to amputate both of his legs yeah and they had on the show.

His his ex-wife and his daughter and and the people in the audience. They were like other use of crazy to cut your legs are yes fine if you think Romanus will begin with the cutter lying.

How did you do that, but his wife was furious with him, screaming, and you destroyed my life. How could could legs let's disturb you destroyed my life singer woman of you destroyed my life and the daughters railing and I want you guys end up on drugs because you ended up depressed because you under opposed suicidal because he knew because I knew my dad between neck like my dad would by cutting off is like that is just stupid.

What affected them was was the transgender issue. I look at. I think all this guy needs serious help serious help. But why is it fine to him to identifies a woman and an and modify was between his legs.

The radical surgery but is not fine for hand that his legs amputated because that gives them peace. Why was a doctor in Scotland arrested for for amputating limbs of healthy patients that would be commended for performing sex cancers as these people need our help is a better way to help the