Why I'm Done Responding to the Critics

Will I can't say forever, but I can say for now, I'm not going to respond to the critics, you need to know why the line of fire, your host activist and author, international speaker, MB allusions, Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the direct coalition of conscience have president of fire school of Ministry of the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH. Jim is Dr. Michael Brown friends don't hide no exaggeration. This is really a very important show and praying about it preparing for to make it worthwhile, helpful, edifying, full of truth, full of grace.

One of you everything I do based on love based on truth for the glory of God and for the good of the body, I will explain why.

Can say forever, but certainly for now why I am going to 100% ignore the attacks of the critics and not respond. If you want to weigh in personally or you're one of those I consider a critic 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 784 and my phone lines will always be open so we can always call and see what about this. What about that but when I'm called out when I'm challenged when things are posted.

I often respond, no, maybe say why bother look there is a colleague of mine and evangelist and he was asked why he didn't respond to the critics and he was literally reaching millions in Third World countries.

I said I'm not getting off the combine harvester to catch a mouse and of course, is a total distraction from the work and many other leading ministries and just had a policy for decades. We don't respond to critics refocus on the workouts given us to do.

Response critics say will Mike why do you often do it.

I do it to try to be helpful. I do it to try to illustrate truth and and illustrate how to handle conflict, and one reason I do with a lot of that critics of the charismatic movements because many of you who follow ministry are not yourselves charismatic. There was some on a couple different worlds under the charismatic revival circles and preaching in and look and see God move the power spirit and then I'm in academic circles like my Job commentary the comes out a few weeks and lecturing in apologetics conferences and teaching at seminaries and and then I'm in the culture wars in the Jewish evangelism.

So many of you follow me in these other ways and look to me these are the ways we can be of help to you. And when the critics raise thing you say will that document. It seems valid. Or what about this from troubled by that. So I'm trying to help as many as I cannot, of no interest in defending me but if I can explain something or show why criticism is unfair or wrong, then I will I will certainly do that but II just want you to understand the that the spirit of many of the critics are so extreme and that that the circle of who's right, who's true.

Zachary keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller and that should show you right there, something is wrong and and if you think that you and your little group of the all is right that is very very troubling here limit. Please give you an example of something some months back. People send you link to the apostasy reported no idea who the gentleman was doing it and said you need to look at this ethic in our hour and 1/2 attacking me and my views while the Celesta have time to do.

I've got writing deadlines have got other things to do and in prayer needs and others to minister to of but anyway I see the process of the following, and so on may be very sincere, but I just want I just compile this list last night of of people that the apostasy port report has recently gone after glitzy they're going after now pure flex so pure flex network, which is a great alternative Christian alternative to Netflix and help get the unplanned movie out so pure flex their bed that Lucas Ray comfort Ken ham such pure lies. Okay, let's let's look at another one would see here Ravi Zacharias is now bad guy. Okay Ravi Zacharias all right, how about Abbott this month. This, the Southern Baptist convention S SBC there their bed rights. Almost all of their bed or how about this one. John MacArthur Joe McCarthy is no bag. John MacArthur is now bad guy write the author strange fire and arts, charismatic, critical eye honor is an elder in the Lord the midst of our differences. Please please a bad guy.

All right Francis Chan Francis Chan is no evil. Okay Francis Chan Matt Chandler Matt Chandler he's he's he's somehow in cahoots with evil.

All right, Todd Friel, while I was frequent quite a critics retrograde who calls be dangerous and questions are absent. Todd Friel is as undisguised hit list, but this time square church guard Colin okay haven't seen in years, but all calling card Colin hoodoo took the Pulver from David Wilkinson time square church is now better Abbott this Paul Paul wall (Christian radio write another one of my more frequent quite critics I get cental unlistenable exit watch and listen to them, but Goodson allows link pirate Chris. They're bad guys. Okay, so Chris Chris Rose Burroughs of the bad guy and then Paul won't pull the washer holiness repents preaching Paul washer because he's in cahoots with the Pope.

He's bad.

And of course me.

Yours truly so to be candid with you. To be candid and apology radio because I had to be candid with you if I wasn't on the skies list. I think I was doing something wrong. Nonetheless, if he professes to be a follower of Jesus and his statement of faith holds to the fundamentals of the faith. I would consider him brother just like a charismatic that's flaky way out there into weird stuff in and preaches you know success in life. Gospel stuff but made a profession of faith claims Jesus is Lord and their basic doctrinal statement is is Orthodox that I like that person's brothers was arguably try to be gracious on both sides, but this hyper criticism friends.

It is self devouring. It is self devouring the circles keep getting smaller and smaller and you gotta recognize its goals in the wrong direction. And when I'm curious about is the critics who were tearing down everyone. This was so bad and that was so bad in this one's guilt by association solo. Could you show me all the people you lead into the war. Could you show me all the people that you're discipling as is your attacking the prosperity preachers and I've written for years against the prosperity gospel. Could you show me the millions of dollars that you're giving to spread the gospel around the world and to feed the poor and to help the needy, is easy to throw stones into James has shown some your faith by your works resources oxalate.

Let's see God. Let's see the people generally be born again that the disciples being made the see the missionaries being sent out the foreign field but let let's see the gospel work is going to the hurting and flip's show me the good fruit any of us consider and criticize friends of Gothic trust me half cut the academic background in the acumen to tear down a whole lot of preachers and teachers out there. By the moment criticizes and criticizes fivefold with this house identify has a help major or absolute review major issues absolutely friends.

Paul gave this one.

Galatians 5 if you bite and devour one another, take heedless you are consumed by one another. Also have to realize there critics who engage in on ethical behavior. Unethical behavior.

They literally post lies about you miss information secondhand twisted and some of them I have confronted privately. All right. And then finally give up confronting with her when they call me a false prophet, the devil and try to reach out to them graciously and say your posting falsehoods.

Case I'm scarab I'm done deal with those people. I pray for them. God is my witness, I pray all got your very best for them.

I don't pray God bring him down. I pray God your very best for you and then I choose when I pray God were ever they have a blind spot or there and everywhere. I have a blind spot I please show them. Please show. That's why I pray only in prayer, judgmental prayer because because I fear God and I don't want to come across as a perfectly self-righteous one to friends.

I just watched for too long critics acting unethically and and unfortunately in in the 31 minute reply that Justin peters sent out. It's is unethical. It is misleading and unethical and and I'm going to tell you what, with love, I would suggest and privately told him how terribly disappointed I was by the video, you can say we totally muddies very gracious that you see in a moment how dangerous and misleading and how on ethical. These things are in France. It doesn't advance the gospel it it doesn't bring people to Jesus and it doesn't even add to the purity and the strength of the body. That's why I forgot for years and so many different ways of try to reach out if you want to question my discernment question my discernment in reaching out to critics okay because we could be could tell me I'm naïve that all except all right because I've tried so many times and I've tried behind the scenes so many times and I reached out so many ways I was interacting with one brother years ago is wiser approval so important to us and I don't want your approval. I don't care what your approval is very uncomfortable for me to reach out but I think if we could come together in a unified way and discuss things for the good of the body.

It would be helpful is flesh killing for me to reach out to certain people because it puts me in a lower position to reach out to some of the just lied about me okay is it widening the names because I've dealt with them privately and I'm not trying to embarrass them publicly. There is a time to name names and this time not to so I will address certain things with certain charismatic Pentecostals by name and player clip give a quote say are different.

Same with critics as I do today, but in plenty of other times, the great majority I'm dealing with people privately because naming names, you have to be careful because the moment you name and name the person become still be demonized in certain people's eyes that many people want me to call out Justin peters and John MacArthur and Phil Johnson, Todd Friel and say they're not saved me people to what you call them out and then from the other side or saying how come you will call out this when this when this will not want consider Nazi wild you say Todd White is going to hell want usage almost is going to help watch it. Okay so you just see where this goes.

However, I will deal with our I will deal with issues and I have four decades to cake.

I just point this out.

Go back to 1989.

The end of the American gospel enterprise.

All right I wrote the end of the American gospel in price 1989.

My first book on repentance revolves a second full book that I wrote right and it's addressed forward by Leonard Ravenhill, author of our voluntary three) the last five years of his life incredible honor to have that privilege and it was the it was mainly addressing charismatic Pentecostal issues and the church of America. In that context, then 1990 House a go house a darling. Okay, who was primarily addressing how Savior has a church full of sleeping enemies up, largely addressing the charismatic church of America social circles which are troubled in 1991, 1991.

What ever happened to the power of God which the subtitle has the charismatic church fallen asleep at season is the charismatic church slain in the spirit down for the count and then follow the 93 bites time to rock the boat. All right. All these books addressing issues in the charismatic Pentecostal movement and then playing with holy fire playing with holy fire which came out last year a wake-up call to the Pentecostal charismatic church playing with holy fire. I've been addressing issues for decades and is a will is due to you name this one name plan again if I have to play that game for you to listen to me.

I am really sorry because I'm not for cleansing and by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown indefinite future.

I'm simply not responding to the charismatic critics, the critics of the charismatic movement. The ones that want me to name this day if I don't damn this one to hell, they won't interact in a constructive way friends is unethical friends. It's on biblical and I'm going to tell you why Melick please understand, Todd Friel has my phone number. Justin peters has my phone number. Some have my email other many others have my email if they ever want to contact me. They can contact me just so they can be known, but I reached out to Justin peters again. I done it months earlier reached out again said readily debate you want to be were the face of the unwanted debate where faith is an outward word of faith okay your debate Benny Hann kinescope and I'm not in their ministries and unsupported ministries. I'm not a minor debate that you are to be divine healing of the baby doesn't want to debate this will not have a pastoral discussion were you and I with our differences can speak to the sick and the suffering and and and how do we deal with Scripture and how does this work itself out. So he puts on 31 minute video over one third of which is devoted to Todd Bentley okay this was as unethical as methyl misleading right. He puts this out, explaining graciously why he won't have the pastoral discussion so I am publicly addressing it because I been asked to by many but that's it. You always call me and asked me a question on the air right but I'm I'm done addressing these things here. Others can post 50 follow-up videos.

God bless them, when do they want to do but not can happen from here. It's too much of a waste of time. Too much taking time away from others that could be healthy and I've reached out to try to help my friends and I charismatic are those that are generally confused by these things and phonons are always open for you to call right but here's interest were troublesome next month. Makes 48 years since got safely all right for years or too much for a 48 years and over that time by his grace I spent many thousands of hours on my knees and in the word and in prayer and all those how many hours studying and breaking my teeth on the languages and working hard to learn and to understand the fear of God and then ministering to people who are hurting and sick and preaching, serving around the world. Countless thousands of hours bringing the work right. My great privilege and honor. I had so many questions about this repealing that I wrote my doctoral dissertation on the Hebrew word for healing at and then have said it is the most comprehensive study ever done on the Hebrew rough which then made its way into the theological dictionary of the Old Testament and the new International dictionary of Old Testament theology and exegesis. Then I went back through the word, once again, and spent a few more years of work and wrote the book Israel's divine healer, Israel's divine healer, all right, it is it is 465 pages on thereabouts for 62 is 165,000 words long, 85,000 words.

Just in the endnotes is to my knowledge because I focused on this for years, the most authoritative or exceeds me comprehensive study of divine healing ever done in any language. All right, I worked hard on this before God son with tears over these issues. Watched friends die as we prayed for their healing okay been there to do the funeral carry the pain in the wake of of all of this just like everyone else does, has has dealt with people close to me that were sick, chronically study the word intensively sought to minister and you are not going to dismiss decades of prayer and study and fasting and serious ministry all right at an end.

Being in the trenches with hurting people and put together a video where you spend 1/3 of it pointed to Todd Bentley's if that has anything whatsoever to do with me or my discernment, my bitter ability to be passed that friends is unethical that friends is out of order that friends is either unintentionally misleading or intentionally deceptive. I got an email text from a pastor today, God forbid I should be critical of another brother.

The video replied just computer seems to abuse theological cloaking to hide from direct conversation which is very not courageous, not brave and some were not honorable to maintain his comfort level supposed interactive relationship building.

I got test with the Lord do that I consider challenging his freedom to take shots at you at a distance run through some real good having conversation that may lead to better understanding that's just the thought, God bless good thought, so I would share with you what I've emailed to Justin months back we supposed to talk by phone. Months ago never got back to me with the time I've tried friends. I have tried over and over again so he posted a totally misleading tweet as if I was in support of of ministry. Spending millions of dollars to buy private jets okay which I've publicly spoken against any no sleep.

He pulled the tweet.

All right and enter a roach in this is June of this year.

All right, a Justin, thanks for taking the tweet down the gives me hope again I forgive you, from the heart. Also make one request to have access to me via email and phone. If you have a question though tweet and accusation asking. Fair enough is for both of us dropping the ball times of the claimant failed to response to his emails.

All, except that to response your email because he asked specific questions.

I've made it clear I reject the Carl prosperity message you have said many times that sentiments like the one you attached your from Creflo he Simpson from Creflo Dollar or heretical. I said it again this week to I wrote that Creflo wasn't getting a dime for me for 64 million jet and I rebuke the lecture last of the same time I have colleagues with very large ministries and used jets. They get for a few hundred thousand dollars which they share with others and it's good stewardship from the have these debts. If you set in their board. You likely agree with me in the same day when similar ministry overseas with the intensity of my schedule home and abroad with my heart. It's good stewardship for me to travel business class overseas but the big issue is stewardship. To me that's light years away from the luxury lifestyle and buying and maintaining mega expensive private jets. I'm on record against this is been a whole video recording all these other leaders and ignoring everything of taught and written preach for decades.

That's disingenuous man that's that is deflection at and and that's what grieves me at degrees me because people think, all while so I guess Dr. Brown has to explain not have to explain what others do. I'm not the policeman or the pulp of the cashback movement anymore. And if you're Baptist you have to apologize for every wingnut on the street singles give a damn you to hell if you don't use the King James Bible come on friends. We gotta do better than this because you better peers. I continue to to write regarding your letter.

The purpose of my show when I when I did a show about Kenneth Copeland was not to response your letter and not to assess the whole Mr. Copeland. The purpose of the show was to make the Copan video into a teachable moment to help us deal with issues like this immaturity. Nonetheless, I want my audience to know the severity of some of the charges brought against Colton has reading your letter so I read a letter from just computers listing all his charges against Kenneth Copan is to teaches this this this this this this this I said if he's guilty of all that, then he's a heretic. He said where's your discernment.

I've never investigated Ivan. I don't listen to. I'm not rejecting him and hating him. I'm simply saying I've not read his books about listen to his messages and watches TV show. So having investigated as if all that's true, there is a heretic. Others have known for decades and decades and said he loves the Lord is a believer, but here we differ with him on Carl prosperity some other things okay so if the same way I look at some of these hyper critics. I called Justin peters a brother I call JD Hall, a brother, okay adjuster Trevor. Some of these guys that come after me in the strongest terms, why because they made a profession of faith they claim Jesus as Lord in their statement of faith is Orthodox.

Same with chemical that I look at a statement of faith online all right is all you need to investigate more. I am not called to investigate everybody want me to investigate.

I have whole books critiquing issues in the charismatic Pentecostal movement. That's right, Stan, and it's this. It is, it is this game of the critics they may be very serious about it, but no people you listen to gifted, they missed it. I was have to come into agreement with us before will debate come on friends this. This is really really bad, really, really this in genuineness, so at anyway at the end of of the letter I go through a few more things. He said if you see my most recent DVDs I said no sentence me on never got a semi-DVDs years ago I had lost my told by having us will have updated us and send us a but please be sure to be citizen context is.

I've seen videos were guys are quoted completely out of context completely out of context and then they're critiqued.

Accordingly, so I said send them to me and I want and I watched never got them. We made an appointment, let's let's try to talk by phone and email okay go to doctors appointment to let you know I can talk that was three months ago because he said I fear were talking past each of us a great, then let's talk. I'm still waiting for so I reiterated publicly what I put in the email I which is let's have a pastoral discussion here, here, that the the exact words I said. As for your declining to debate me on divine healing. In fact, Dr. White, Naomi debated the subject, in part why not present are differing views but with pastoral hearts, addressing issues and abuses with honesty.

How could that hurt us for your offer to debate you on Copan or hand whiners will I do that I'm not there camps. I have no relationship with them and will agree with some of their teaching or practice addresses. The fact is when someone called you and and Chris Rose were from part radio false Christians on twitter I defendant use true believers but took issue with your spreading falsehoods in the same way I defend Bill Johnson as a brother, even while dialoguing with him privately about differences we have sought. Here's what happens. This cessation is critics of the charismatic movement. They don't open the door wide right Seneca let all this crazy error and they would say, but think of a damn whole lot of brothers and sisters charismatics. They open the door to why and they bring all kinds of junk but then look around damning everybody else to help each one has a strength and weakness, which is like you try to bring people together, but look friends. You are not going to deflect it. Just insert your likely deflect for the real issues, but put them out a video about Kenneth Copeland and and and Todd White and Todd Bentley and others deflect from the issues I'm trying to present my friend. I have grace credentials and present them and discuss I'm trying to help people try to help live the light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown not to be processed. But it's a little frustrating when you say something like 10 times someone comes in after the 10th time and accuses you of never saying something of this.

Look at some comments here but praise the Lord your best to move forward. Michael Brown, welcome to the line of fire him explaining why this I can be responding to critics. Critics of the charismatic movement lease for the indefinite future. I'll take my time to explain why you say, why even do that all because again many of you who listen to me watch me or not charismatic yourself, your genuine question. Some are confused by certain teaching of their and you have to look to me as if I'm responsible to announce everything in every day point out what's relevant that the Celica called me to do I will sit around with it was happening in the body on all sides and call out everyday living.

To say this, the Holy Spirit is moving wonderfully gloriously around the world and I will at any time in any fair environment all right with theirs equal time in a moderate academic debate have an academic theological solid debate as to whether the gifts of the spirit healing miracles, tongues, prophecy are for today anytime.

To me it is a very serious issue when people reject what the Holy Spirit is doing around the earth today, but I don't bring those people false teachers who go to hell if their brothers and sisters in the Lord. I look at them as having a serious error there but I do my best to work with them for the common good to reach a dying world. So the world can know about Jesus and to edify the body and to help those with honest questions and issues all right, but a time comes when it is a waste of time. When he takes you away from other things and where it is a no-win situation with critics because of which I am not going to continue to address right now you know is: the question 866-34-TRUTH 784 and critics can always: phone lines are open just like in a comment interacting with things with Justin peters looks like a child some online publicly. I just followed up with an email from months earlier with a personal letter I sent to him proposing something when I never heard back to say he witness be great to have an edifying discussion about thus and such in a pastoral when presented publicly because I think your response privately presented publicly and waiting for Tom were supposed to talk by phone to talk. Some of these things are private so I unconsciously try to do that friends consciously try to do it will keep doing it, but here's yours admonition okay Justin peters questions my discernment because I post a picture on Instagram with Todd White saying appreciate his heart for the war, and according to Justin Visa is a heretic false teacher. Therefore help out*right now. Help Justin quite sure about that. I just hope that that God is a little different view than sometimes you and I do as we can often miss.

In any case, I met Todd for the first time in Pensacola a few weeks ago, SV spent some time with me. She really wanted to learn for me. He really wanted to have me someone that can speak into his life. He shared his heart for the Lord is his love for the Lord's passion for God for for the lost it for holiness with a great talk only time Adam never heard preached before that all right never nothing, zero okay so first time we met face-to-face.

He it in the hotel restaurant. He got on his knees and asked me to lay hands on them and pray that God would give him wisdom, he humbled himself.

Then I heard him preach that night. All right, that was not a systematic exposition but overall was that it was the word really calling people to surrender the laws to the Lord and turn away from sin and energy quoted more Scripture than I would say your average pastor uses in a month of sermons Scripture at the Scripture for Scripture, but he wanted input from me and I thought I may never hear him preach again for years, so I took copious notes in the next day sat with him and said, hey, let me give you some all talked about.

Thank you. Thank you.

Wow thank you I appreciate this.

Thank you and I to explain why you hold to this position all the verse in verse there. I said okay I will agree with that but I see where you're coming from right so going?

Sorry I haven't watched all the other stuff have evaluated. Go ahead. I put here's what's most grievous to me right.

I spent decades assisted in the word, in prayer and study the issue of healing and and and praying for the sick and and watching people die that we pray for an agonizing over the seeing some breakthroughs in miracles over the years as well. Right. I'm certainly qualified to talk about on a pastoral level as well as on an academic level. Justin peters is explain what he won't and he spends in a 31 minute video over one third of it.

Talk about Todd Bentley. Okay over one third talk about Todd Bentley and saying Dr. how can I possibly have any kind of dialogue with you pastoral dialogue when you don't have the discernment to see the Todd Bentley should not be in ministry and you're sitting on a panel was can make those revaluations won a totally misleading thing to do. As I wrote until just in a discipline I was but I keep getting people SV stuck around you to respond. You should respond okay why am I overseeing a panel and not on the panel because I am publicly on record as opposing Todd's ministry for over 10 years as he knows as as Rick Joyner and others know all right they fully know micros that's why I'm not sitting as a judge on the panel right but he is had six very serious allegations brought against him and deserves his day in court and there is large parts of the charismatic movement. Other non-cars by parts the church that are very independent, unaccountable, so were trying to bring some integrity and accountability into the mix here that that's what I'm responsible for doing bring people together who can look at things impartially and honestly and see what's a false accusation was a true accusation. Everyone deserves that. All right, everyone deserves a juror the accusations. What's true, what's not true, what's accurate what's inaccurate. Has he been properly restored in the pasture. The ministry led us do things righteously and biblically because many would say they have not been done unrighteously but would be so for me I'm try to make sure this is unrighteously biblically, and now I'm blasted for lack of discernment at and you can ignore thousands of hours of research in prayer and study on on healing in Scripture and all of that by Pontotoc that that that is deceptive friends it's very misleading very deflecting okay so how would you know my stance it's been public. Here, look at this article on the stream. Roy said that we have to do better when it comes to dealing with scandals, the church must do better than the national inquirer right so there recent charges that came against Todd and I said I have no comments on these. Look at this going Todd situation. I have no specific common sense one I have not supported him being in ministry since his divorce and remarriage into thousand eight and I am on public record to that effect. The moment it was announced, I got up in front of my home congregation just leave that up for moment I got up in front of my home congregation in Charlotte said we believe you should go back to his wife and children. We do not recognize this as valid. I then spoke to Rick Joyner face-to-face and via email.

Our team spoke to their team.

Pastoral team at MorningStar and said we reject this we differ with it.

Sunday I been on public record. That's why cannot be part of a panel coming to a judgment because I am on public record. Already I want to see Todd have his day in court, so to say I want to see charges vetted and looked at accurately and then honest questions asked was see properly restored in 2008 2000 was see properly restored in 2013.

Should he be in ministry etc. all right I will see those things and rights because they've never been done unrighteously in in with a number of leaders together looking at this. There's so much unaccountability from so here I am taken all heat flight was a metamorphic and I'm just being honest with you taking T5 from all sides because were trying to bring righteousness and accountability and integrity and restore people's confidence and how leaders do think and for that I get blessed if lack of discernment that is absolutely deceptive friends, and it's a complete deflection from the issues okay you said what about what happened in Lakeland I'm I'm on public record about that all I've no connection of any kind to Tom's ministry.

I also disagree publicly with three other leaders handle things in Lakeland were taught became prominent so this is in my book, authentic fire right in my book, authentic fire, which was a response to John McCarthy strange fire so the critics should read this and again that that was a widely read post on many different websites. The one right.

I reiterated my position on time. Again, this is why I cannot be on a panel right making a judgment because I ready made judgment but all the people involved know that my standards are high, and therefore is Camino cover-up. And if the false accusations of what will deal with things righteously.

My job is to call on a panel and investigator investigator with over 20 years of police experience to do things righteously before God for the sake of the body for the sake of integrity for the sake of alleged victims right. Let us look at things honestly, with integrity before God. That should be some everybody's applauding and said where is your discernment to to think that he should be in ministry either. That's ignorance, in which case, don't make the public statement final actually believe or its deception very grievous friends and look, I've been praying and agonizing over this because I don't want to be divisive. I keep reaching out to people to try to bring people together so we can talk in a common way for the good of the body by us, I think, for example, some of the folks that are secessionist have so much to offer to charismatics and charismatics of so much stuff or cessation is that we can sit and learn from each other. We could trust each other. Even we still are different. But here's what I wrote in authentic fire okay when he quoted to please allow me to be to make myself perfectly clear for the most part I avoid Christian TV. Although there are more and more good networks coming to the fore many fine individual programs funding some of it downright embarrassing if not outright despicable. Especially some of the manipulative fundraising which I find absolutely sickening Richard virtually all of these TV abuses take place in charismatic circles.

How tragic and how excusable this in my book, authentic fire. Thus I dressed it over 25 years earlier already in the days of what was called the Lakeland revival I noted in my journal that it was an accident waiting to happen.

Sharing my concerns with my colleagues and coworkers. So I never attended any of the meetings emotionally to services online. One of them absolutely horrified me as some of the most respected charismatic leaders in the nation gathered to lay hands on the main leader Todd Bentley in what seemed to be a kind of coronation service. Some of these men were friends of mine. I was so grieved over what was taking place that I had to turn the meeting off unable watch what seemed to me in almost almost an active self-mockery or precious wife Nancy urge me to sit down with her.

Some days later and watch the entire ceremony. Record Lalonde. It was even worse the second time around discussing that meeting with a charismatic leader from England a few months later, we both felt as if it signified some level of divine discipline on the charismatic church of America exposing our lack of discernment again. I say this to reiterated that I'm the last person to minimize some of the problems we are facing friends here is, here's the reality.

Here's the reality friends I have in obedience to God: abuses for decades and reached out to individuals behind the scenes and at times with appropriate name names, but the constant fading of the critics, the cost misleading tactics. Critics discuss the relations I'm in Anaheim it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown and voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the light of ironbound by calling 86680 culture that you can sit you can sit here all you want one place you went to a restaurant once and that restaurant is owned by someone who knew someone was a white supremacist your white supremacist very similar to the work of the hyper critics very very similar in the suit. You need to name names more. Who were the super apostles that Paul had such issues with men for scripting. Second Corinthians. He refers to them a lot even says they're there false workers are children of Satan. Second Corinthians 1113 through 15 right, who were their names. We don't know.

Maybe there's a name it. Maybe not. But the most what we don't know. He talked about what they did right.

He described their methods. The Corinthians figured out the news talk about false teachers mentioned every so often you have a mention. Paul mentioned John mention, but otherwise they just refer to what the people do in the wrong doctrine and that sufficient soft on that for years and will continue to, and again I have reached out plenty times behind the scenes. Five. An open door to do it or reach up behind the scenes first if it's something of public concern, and I don't get a response behind the scenes, then I'll address something publicly, but if it is for the good it if it is for the edification of the body. If we could make it a teachable moment see the hyper critics will strain out a gnat and swallow a camel right so it's a little get though get worked up over something and claiming will you claim someone's legs grew on the video and it was a sham and therefore were calling your heretic or something and then the call Martin Luther with no problem. Will Hank timeout, here we can be a couple of vintage Martin Luther quotes right old. Let's see here. Okay every Christian is by faith so exalted above all things that by virtue of a spiritual power. He is Lord of all things without exception, that nothing can do them any harm.

As a matter fact, all things are made subject to him and are compelled to serve him in obtaining salvation. Sounds like little God's teaching what I think you need to nail Luther is a precursor of the little God's teaching, which we have rejected many a time over the decades. All right, but that's a little God's theology that we are little dogs worn overall right or how about this, the peasants were the Luther quote. Like the mules will not move unless you perpetually with them with Roxy wrote so the civil powers must drive the common people whip choke hang burn behead and torture them, that they may learn to fear the powers that be at a peasant is a hog for a hug us, Lord, it is dead in the same way the peasant does not think about the next life or was he would behave very differently. Losers hailed as a great Martin Luther and one of the great fathers and so on and and I think all for the good that came through Luther. I grieve over the bad, but but the flaky is charismatic. Doesn't say anything that crazy near that wrong and look at this this one regress was was talking about this when he was in later years reproach for such violent language and for inciting the smart Luther and inciting territory lords to mercilessly slaughter they killed over 100,000 peasants. Luther answered defiantly. It was I Martin Luther who slew all the peasants in the insurrection fry commanded them to be slaughtered all their blood is upon my shoulders but I casted on our Lord God, who commanded me to speak this way and that's just the selection of some of the radical extreme deplorable quotes by Martin Luther and yet people will follow him and laud him and and and quote him as if he's drunk right under Paul and then blasts some some flaky charismatic is a hell bound heretic friends that's unequal weights and measures that's unethical. It's dangerous look. If you are in a real life crisis you found out that someone you love very dearly, very, very dirty had an incurable illness. A young person and and you wanted prayer for healing.

You just look while there is life there is hope the doctors can do anything God required to from her would you go to hyper critics would you go to Lowe's charismatic submit a little flaky but they seem to really love the Lord and they seem to deny the touch God in prayer.

Would you go to, or if you had someone that came under demonic power needed deliverance.

Would you go to some friends I am determined to edify reach help as many as I can as many as I can and and I take time to do it.

Also I'm in a love to debate so it's in my nature to do but but I avoid debating all the time because I want to help I want to bless up. I want to edify and strengthen our and I'm reminded the Jesus in Matthew 23.

Speaking to the religiously's number that's who Jesus had the biggest problem with the religious leaders that that is.

He said if we lived in the days of our ancestors would not of taken part with them in the shedding of the blood or profit so you testify against yourselves and your descendents of those who murdered the prophets and they reject the son of God reject the spirit in their day friends on the word guy on the word person. I sift everything by the word, just like many of you do that and I look for fruit, lasting fruit, lasting fruit, lasting fruit true disciples assertively for but do not dare judge me in my work by who I'm willing to condemn as a heretic and whether I'm willing to be the policeman of the charismatic movement. In response, every request hey if I responded to some of the more extreme critics. I looked at Otto's after jam down damn John MacArthur and Paul washer and roughy scatterplot is that okay on the play that game friends not going to do and I reached out privately. So many times to folks and said let's talk with the that's of a public always have a private.let's meet in private. Let's talk by phone. I've done it every way I know how so I'm leaving that for now. Always feel free to call me with requests always but I'm leaving that for now and I am going to do my if if I can help you. Great if if you won't listen to me unless I condemn certain people by name. Hey, sorry but I'm still here to help however I can. Let's glorify the Lord. Let's run the race. Let's lift up Jesus right. I am taking one call a Jeff and Marilyn, thanks for holding and welcome to modify what's on your heart man, Dr. Michael gathered the Jeffries whose text I read earlier yes go ahead sir all you wrong that your America greatly below. We bother people, but you know you it's really cute before the God of the pocket or your computer every body included the notebook with the charismatic movement third chakra. The aftershock code. I think the board of their level of spiritual development. Both the right thing to do is start devouring the body broke all unfortunately.

But you are currently politically through body, your commitment to the Lord.

Absolutely unquestionable that help people that are good times would you recall the your commitment to the Lord will blow all bowl, all relevant baseball, but you can walk around the house. Nobody spoke with majority, but your father Lord on their real window. You're absolutely right. You are all early in the beginning of your ministry among the group about real people and you will follow God install people there that you're absolutely commitment first word absolutely committed to the word because you can. The word of the founders of the deeper spiritual thing think that all conflict with broker arbitral problem dealing with, but always somebody away from the current humility early company code of your spoke with Millie.I don't know help me begin to open up the trying that out there in the charismatic movement. All of the paperwork lately by multiple document grouping, but mama people are overwhelmed because the dog of money out there know all the beer very typical of God without bar nuclear art by doing but you will person you're not helping people about about think of Robert free report.

The Scriptures say about you being like or even work there varying about you not critics Broglie wavelength or whatever because the new do well in North Georgia below low stuff like that. Being the policeman I will make bail before the Lord of the believable people more prepared to go or how many reward they will just listen to us first sight. I appreciate your kind words and your members stand back. Nancy and I back from like 86.

I think weight way back. Know and remember you had your first girl impregnated a newsprint with the second sunsets got held. They now where your new bird dog are you learning through SSO this this this goes back in the boat but anyhow listen II hope that that Justin Peterson and Todd Freeling, Joshua Chavers and Chris Rosenberg and JD Hall and Phil Johnson John MacArthur another said be on the other side. As I how I hope they have great reward. II hope that that God use them to touch many many many many people and and look out on the be a martyr for doing this but it's utterly unpleasant to dress thesis all the time. I key I keep trying because I want to bring others together and I want those that have genuine questions to get answers, but I hope I've made it clear why this is, no sense, no use. It's is not an equal playing field and are not being met with the time of integrity that I need to be met with white comes that way. Hey, here I am.

Let's have the dialogue to discuss.

So your questions are always welcome, but for now friends responded to critics in the all of us humble ourselves