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October 11, 2022 6:24 pm

On a Tuesday Drive, Josh tries to set reasonable expectations for Carolina Panther fans, discusses why he thinks the Tar Heels will turn the corner, this year, moves some teams around in "Critically ACClaimed", Carolina Panthers insider, Sheena Quick, joins the show to discuss what David Tepper will be looking for in the next head coach of the Panthers, and Hayes Permar, of Sports Channel 8, joins the show to discuss Charlotte as a sports town and to play a Matt Rhule themed edition of "Skips or Plays".

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He's amused and insulted by Charles Barkley is a no no no. He's interviewed Matthew McConaughey and he's taken on the wind out of my time drive WS triad where I believe it's important for everybody to have at least one person in their life. Tell them the truth. Maybe it's your spouse tell you why is down. Got something in your team. Maybe it's a really good friend tell you the new facial hair look you've got going on actually isn't crushing. Maybe change course body so as Steve Wilkes met with the media for the first time today as the Panthers interim coach. I want to be that person for Panthers fans today because if expectations aren't set properly. It's easy to become disappointed when bad things happen see their telling us Steve Wilkes has a chance to turn things around, but he has a chance to perhaps get that interim tag removed. At the end of the year but let's be honest about this.

That's not really the case.

Here's the reality. Wilkes is not going to revive this team and more than likely were about to see the Panthers enter a significant tailspin, because we've seen this movie. In fact, prior to this year we saw it chill of the last three seasons.

Will Dalton is the executive producer of this show Carolina had four games after Ron Rivera was fired. They had five after Joe Brady was fired.

Do you know how many wins they had in those games, combined not a 100 and all four of the games of the Perry fuel interim experience were blowout losses. The five games last year after Joe Brady was let go. Average margin of defeat in the five games 20 points. This is a sport where things are largely decided in small margins. 2 1/2 point spread. Oh it's a big deal that it's down to 1 1/2, Carolina lost. Listen to what I'm telling you, Carolina lost the last five games of last year after the firing and not a head coach, but a coordinator. I 20 points on average across five games and you want me to believe that these are going to go well after getting rid of the head coach and defensive coordinator you want me to believe that with a straight face.

You're going to tell me that the college coach in that rule was that he was very hands-on hands-on with everything but the college coaches are neurotic that way. They have to Control of everything.

That's why many coaches leave after just one year in the NFL. They want to go back to college.

Nick Sabin, Lou Holtz, Bobby Patrina, there are way too many gatekeepers to the talent in the NFL. I don't like that I don't have to deal with in college sports Nick save. Why would I go to the NFL and deal with the salary Of the draft when I can just recruit the best players in the country and nobody could stop me. I could get as many of them as I want that rule was very much in control of everything that's happened and now is gone. The one bright spot.

The one real bright spot five games was Phil Snow's defense is not there. Do you think something Magix could happen would been back now that Steve Wilkes is running the show. I don't know your CN but I don't see it but Steve Wilkes is optimistic. I guess you gotta say this, but this was Steve Wilkes earlier today telling us why he's optimistic. Things are gonna get turned around thinking guys, you realize that we have great talent within this moving is not the room and they feel like right now, which is not really hit the market and that goes into a lot of different no common denominator. So the confidences there. We just got to find a consistency to turn around. Everybody needs someone in their life to tell the truth. Hopefully will Dalton is that person for me that can tell me that this hat isn't really working out. Why did you wear that on TV set a moral fast hat were you doing Graham and hats fire Josh, thank you. Be a yes man I'm trying to be that person for the Carolina Panthers fans right now telling you this is going to be the worst team in the NFL. By the end of the year. Best case scenario. One of the three worst teams.

That's what it is Carolina's can have one of the top three picks in the draft and that's good in a draft where it's quarterback deep Carolina. They had three consecutive top 10 picks, but never in the top five. Never quite high enough to get the elite quarterback never close in 21 pick away from Justin Herbert. This year they're going to get that opportunity.

This change really happens at a bad time because while Steve Wilkes is up there saying you want to talk about Baker Mayfield's injury will give you the injury report tomorrow answer that question. That way about three or four times, we've seen the report missed multiple weeks. This is the same injury. I think Sam Donald has missed seven weeks dealing with Joe person said in a report in the last few hours that he got a second opinion and confirm the initial diagnosis but he's probably going to miss between 2 to 6 weeks. That's what were talking about and you already have Donald out. He is not close to coming back and you have Sam corral out to or met corral excuse me with the PJ Walker experience just as you're going on the road for three of the next four playing the defending champion Rams going East Coast West Coast returning home to face Tom Brady in the box and tumble Todd Bowles's defense going to Atlanta which is a frisky team on the road.

That's not easy going to Cincinnati there about the inner tailspin. Mrs. may be the worst team in the NFL.

So don't tell me Steve Wilkes always Carolina spark underneath them. Okay how that change the offense of that change what's gonna happen to quarterback.

Now that you don't have Baker in there either. It is I have a real shot at reviving. That's the reality.

This deems about to be really bad in hopes you get a good graphic with the new coach next year and you can restart this thing the right way. Or maybe just a quick rebuild. Considering there is a lot of talent that surrounds the quarterback position on Twitter at W STS radio if you wanted 33 677-1600 is the phone number if you want, and about five minutes or so critically acclaimed for this week.

Top 10 rankings and their something in the top five but I got a feeling I might hear a thing or two about will get to that shortly. Unlike the Carolina Panthers I expected working on a Tar Heels to turn the corner.

This season the Panthers but with the Tar Heels. I really like what I've seen, that's what we saw in Miami over the weekend and I'll put it this way, this Carolina team is what everybody expected last year's group debate and nobody wants to say that out loud because there still some scar tissue from being burned in 21. I took all the haters on. I picked Pittsburgh when the coastal Carolina everybody picked Carolina went in the short picked Carolina. Oh Josh, you just trying to jinx us where we now we often hear it takes time for teens to learn how to win and it appears that finally happen with the Tar Heels there winning on the road and when it all the road last year there.

Three. You know so far this year they are handling success well did he do that the last two years followed up a great effort against Virginia Tech with a win in Miami on the road have a couple of win streaks this year and that's what we talked about with Mack Brown. Just yesterday, and here's what he says been the difference being the things that happen in the game, you gotta bonded things that happen in the game and there were some really difficult thing that happened happened in Miami in the gardening blank that is looked at each other with confidence and in Playing and and that was one thing that last year's team. Probably because I didn't post them as well were really up and down this year they bounce back.

The defense has produced in consecutive weeks was the story of the first to ask the defense is terrible and all, I thought changes. It's a really good coach.

There is a lot of high-end foreign five-star recruiting talent on that side, you're going to get better as the season goes on. Help Virginia Tech to 10 text terrible… Bad example. You go on the road to Miami and they hold Miami to seven points to the final two minutes or so. The first half captains shut them out in the third quarter complementary football. Carolina had that eight minute drive. Keeping the ball away from them. In the fourth, you know, the offense is going to figure it out. You know it they are with Drake may be in a potential Heisman candidate and I don't think it's outlandish when you look at the numbers, the defense I think is only good to get better as the season goes on to talents in place and now the path to Charlotte I think goes to Chapel Hill Duke lost to Georgia Tech. They're going to come back to earth a little bit in Mike Elko's first year as North Carolina goes to Duke this weekend game that you can listen to right here on W STS pit hasn't looked at also losing to Georgia Tech and did not look great against that terrible Virginia Tech team that came was also in Pittsburgh to a game that the Panthers have it look good in Carolinas get a face pic coming off a bye after this week's game and Carolina. Now is the tiebreaker great against Miami. So it's really their division to lose at this point. This is the team that everybody thought we were going to see last year.

That's what were seeing with the 2022 Carolina Tar Heels. As I mentioned, we've got this week's top 10 football rankings in the ACC we call it critically acclaimed that's next on the drive drive around the greatest season starts for the Atlanta Braves 7 to 1 billion top five games on Fox throughout got it on here in the studio in about 20 minutes or so Seattle used in game one of that LDS is going to start in the night You've got Cleveland and the Yankees you've got San Diego versus the Dodgers on the mound you got Garrett Cole for the pinstripes tonight and I do feel like this is destined for Dodgers Yankees.

That's what I think were going to get. I think judges going to go nuts in this postseason. I think the Yankees pitching is going to be there. We saw how strong some of the starting pitching was towards the end of the year and even though a lot of people were focusing on judges record Garrett Cole broke. I strike outs record. I believe this year single season for the Yankees.

They just have so much talent on the mound and I think it strange doesn't feel like a lot of people were talking about the Yankees right now which is really strange thing to say because that's never usually the case, but that's what I that were going to see W day ethic.

It's good to be Yankees Dodgers.

That's what that's the match of unwilling to see the World Series for good handful years now, so every great 737 first pitch on TBS 937 Foxworth want San Diego versus the LA Dodgers.

Now let's get to critically acclaimed for this week usually do it on Monday but things happen, yesterday disrupted that a get back to that little bit of something from Nick St. in Charlotte uptown Charlotte about 10 minutes or so. This is our top 10 for the ACC. I don't do the full 14 teams because 11 to 14 really don't deserve to be talked about on the radio right now.

No one deserves to hear about the students currently let's get it started with Milberg to got Duke here but really, 10 through six was a challenge. If you look at my piece of paper. I've got a ton of scribbles and asked out points moving teams. The one point to another, but I got Duke 10. They've lost two in a row now granted, they were both competitive games on the road at Kansas at Georgia Tech over the weekend, but as it stands Duke specimen is against Northwestern right now they were picked to be one of the worst teams in the league.

Maybe they're closer to that end, we thought they might be potential coastal dark horses after a foreigner start a great opportunity to change a lot of opinions on about when they host North Carolina on Saturday night at Wallace Wade number nine Miami.

They also do not have a good win back. I probably think wins over Miami's wins currently but I little bit more faith. The Mario crystal ball than I do.

A first-year head coach Mike Elko a little bit more faith in Tyler van Dyck then Riley Leonard, even though that was Nazi effort towards the end of Saturday's game in Atlanta. I little bit more faith in Miami's talent that I do. Duke so Keynes at number nine not in love with it, but I have them slightly ahead of number eight Pittsburgh, there still the defending ACC champs. That has to be worth something right, figuring out six through 10.

Again, pretty tough.

I think the West Virginia win is a decent when battling Tennessee if you didn't lose keeping slow this maybe you knock off the team that right now is ranked pretty high up getting set for their showdown with Alabama in Knoxville this weekend. Not super impressive against Virginia Tech. In fact, you had the block punt for a touchdown and things were not looking good for large stretches again you are at home.

There are, you lost Georgia Tech the week before pit is spiraling a bit, but not so much that they completely fall off the map towards the bottom of critically acclaimed advocates a good spot for the Panthers number seven Georgia Tech were something.

Maybe it was Jeff Collins and how is it break key unlocking there. The door for the yellowjacket. He's doing well and couple nice when you beat Duke beat Pittsburgh and they were leading much of the wagons was over 80 yard kick return I games not going to over time. Georgia Tech was a control for most of that game. I really like Jackson's quarterback have a really long time waster near Gadsden and transfer the famine stuck around in Atlanta.

But when you think about it when you look at Georgia Tech schedule. I don't care if it was Jeff Collins or Nick Sabin coaching this team.

I don't know if this roster.

What Georgia Tech was supposed to do.

Opening up with Clemson. Western Carolina okay Ole Miss and then at UCF.

I don't know what what he was supposed to do with that. With this talent facing two teams that are currently ranked in the top nine in America adds pretty darn tough and now they make the change and were seeing some of that talent perform better against easier, more manageable competitions.

So maybe that's where tort law right here in this back link account for something they got a couple of good ones there on a bit of a role as they get set, Virginia on Thursday night. It's going to be the jackets hosting Tony Elliott number six Florida State.

The nobles are not a great team for they are good or not. One of the top five teams of people pretty much anybody in the league, which makes Saturday night.

All the more competitive for all the more interesting.

Probably a better way to say it, when Clemson comes in for a prime time ABC game in town. Number five, it's interesting. I have one more thing to add on.

They just had a really tough situation of white house this for the goblin consecutive games you've got in a row Wake Forest, NC state Clemson back to you at the play in consecutive weeks. They should've won that game in Raleigh and I go to a good start against Wake Forest hung in their late effigy is not about you, but I don't think losing the last couple weeks you can be rewarded as a top-five team currently given the teams were about Syracuse is the number five there ranked their unbeaten five no. You got them in the top five right on the power five wins wax Louisville the way that you're supposed to beat Purdue at home produce pretty good football team sure that required a lot of craziness in order for it to happen, but the move of seniors OC to Syracuse we saw great numbers were Vernon Armstrong last year. Comparatively this year without him. I asked really help your trader and they have the wrong name was Sean docker and the defense is stingy as it usually is under Dino Weber's were learn something on Saturday when NC State comes into the dome adds a really that's the most interesting ACC game. I think we got this week.

I don't say that lightly, considering you got Carolina Duke got Florida state Clemson like I just mentioned.

I think the most compelling game that we have on the site is the one that is about to happen in the dome this weekend between the armed number four here's the controversy NC state got NC state for. I just don't. I was talking with Denise Roth about this is called NC State. A handful of times at WDA you've seen how many NC State games in person 33. I just don't see him getting there on offense.

I don't I don't see it getting better.

I don't think Kevin Carter got banged up Bev and Larry got banged up the running backs are her even though Dave Doran said none of those injuries are supposed to be significant work keep guys out very long even when they were healthy.

It didn't really all come together and now that you're starting to get the injury bug to I think that's going to be stunted and removes any hope that I have that this is going to be better as the season goes on at some point you are who you are and I think this is what they are all offensively the defenses right and they deserve to be ranked in the top 20 point was that got Chambers and company win that game against Florida State but it seems like there's a ceiling here that is it really high and there rubbing up against it and I think their schedules difficult enough that there are a few more losses that are becoming the way, I don't think there trending upward.

Numbers three, North Carolina got North Carolina ahead of NC state if it's close and it offense of leaning sport. I'm going to take the offense just going to their the ones with the preseason ACC player of the year Drake Mason when you see the difference. There Carolina. How much do you think interstate would love any of the top three receivers that Carolina had for any of those titans that are catching passes. They would love one of Downs can have green have Nesbitt I think any of those got skilled knowledge is in the defenses been playing well the last couple weeks like Tar Heels in at number three, because I think there trending upward and NC State going in the other direction. Number two Wake Forest. The gaps not far from Clemson. It really bums me out that you can't get a rematch. How great of a rematch with Charlotte if you had Wake Forest and Clemson again but thought more about the beach later this hour will do that for Sheena quick joins us Carolina Panthers insider, but it's a shame that they didn't give her the division sooner. Wake Forest is undoubtedly the second best team in the sleek, and probably should drink a little higher than 40, number one, Clemson. They should take care of FSU you know the defenses unbelievable and DJs turned it around which changes what this team might be able to do when they get to the college football playoff real national title contender. I think with the youth is going to get better as the season goes on. Don't know them and to say that about Georgia will know for me to be able to say that about Alabama itself. I think the Tigers number one prescribed that's been critically acclaimed for this week is no perfect blend of sports and pop culture scene the next six shots and show back to the drive with Josh Sheena quick to join us at about five minutes. She's plugged in. Is anybody on the Carolina Panthers and I think Once upon a time ran track at FSU triad product to sell altogether really interesting person with a ton of insight will join us in just a few minutes before Sheena drop drops by to talk about Wake Forest because amid the firing of Matt rule and other things that were going on, we have to talk about how how much of the turnaround we've seen on the defensive side of the ball and what Wake Forest has become this year really solid overall football team collectively, not just one side of the ball. Wake Forest is a product of brilliant coaching and system the defensive improvements are staggering. Think about this bailout, 56, the Army last year.

The players of changed with some turnover arm is not really good this year were pretty good year ago, but the system is the system as a going away.

Sometimes the system itself can scheme its way to scoring a certain number and that number is usually a lot more than 10 week four shut them out in the first half ended up with 10 at the end but give a lot of credit to Dave Clawson. He rolled the dice. After last season, even though the results were such Wake Forest had its best year since 2006 I got to the ACC championship game. They ended the run for the Clemson Tigers winning the division. They rolled the dice. He rolled that I think it wasn't good enough defensively. So much so that we need to make a change and we need to upgrade and they brought Brad Lambert who was the defensive court later on in 2016.

That did a really nice job at Purdue last year producing some NFL draft picks. These come in the defenses been better.

I will go as far to say it's been a great defensive team, but it was a great effort. We saw on Saturday and I think Rondell Bob Freud probably get a B a draft pick in the same way that Bobby Basham was to be one of those guys that sticks on the roster. The way that were seeing a ton of demon the guns stick on NFL teams and another thing that's a great sign of coaching. Early-season weaknesses are no longer problems. The problem for wake in the first month of the year for sample games. The run game and penalties wakes up running the football nearly as well as they need to run the ball the same way since Krista Bill Smith left and before that Kenneth Walker not as good as it should be.

This is a problem. How are you gonna run on climbs and it looks terrible against liberty and then against claims of their running down their throat on that last try before you had that DFL right for overtime.

They ran the ball really well in the second half backing and against FSU justice Ellison had his first career 100 yard game. How did he follow that against Army. He had 96 yards so it's coming out and Kristin Turner had some big runs. He's been proven to be a tough to get on the back. The ground type running back and Ellison's picked it up in the blocking game so the run game has been improved. That's development that's coaching penalties huge issue.

The first couple games. Not an issue against Army in the game that Wake Forest needed to be the most disciplined they were. And again that's coaching or your problems continuing to be problems are you getting beaten the same way over and over and over again.

Wake Forest isn't in there, not beating themselves. That's what great teams do that while coach teams do see the development Wake Forest which is a staggering thing but this looks like a 10. When football team. The thing that bums me out about it is that they didn't get rid of division soon enough to potentially get a rematch of the ACC damaged game between Clemson and Wake Forest. I think the Atlantics wrapped up Clemson's not going to lose two more games and that with that's what needs to happen for Wake Forest to get into the ACC championship. Yet the went out and Clemson needs to lose twice. That's not gonna happen, but this should be a time when team I don't see Wake Forest losing two more games in the regular season injuries. No boring injuries or anything like that. So what you looking at maybe finish the season top 10 maybe you get to the peach bowl.

Maybe you get to the Orange bowl taking positive steps in the right direction, but it forces a product of brilliant coaching and system and it's been a really impressive thing to watch somebody louse is pretty impressive. This, our friend Sheena quick joins us here you are a product of the ACC and of triad you are from Florida states High Point Andrews go red Raiders right and you're an insider or the Carolina Panthers is well really do appreciate you spending the time on a busy week. Let's start here, assuming Wilkes doesn't get the next gig.

He doesn't turn it around, which seems like what's most likely considering what happened after Rivera was fired.

Fuel losing four games Joe Brady when he was fired. They lost their last five games and lost him considerably. Assuming that Wilkes doesn't get the get. What do you think David Tepper's criteria is going to be this time around for a coach. Number one place should be no more year contract that I did a little work like this turnaround while the Army whenever you let someone know and so you know, get outside what is going to late at night or actually adhered to come to that, and he sidestepped all of those and basically said that he could concentrate on the 12 gave little different than when Ron fired his will, salvageable, and so he's focusing on the date that the looking for them in a color of the college route she's on Twitter@Sheena_Marie three should follow their lot of great insight stuff will get to some of the trade target stuff and just a little bit but I'm interested in what you make.

So a few years ago Eric Reed joined Colin Lawsuit against the NFL. David Taber owns the team and within months of owning the team. He has the comments on NBC or MSNBC, where he said that he found the kneeling football players to be patriotic and he signed Eric Reed when nobody else would damn way of seeing with the lawsuit that Steve Wilkes is a part of with Brian Florez that he had no problem promoting him to be an interim coach when Brian Florez becomes part of the conversation.

If he becomes part of the conversation to become the Pampers Xcode. Do you think that's even something the lawsuit against the NFL.

That's going to be part of the debating part of the conversation without No, I don't know right from the Band-Aid completely shambled over what they like the culture as a part David Tepper is for social debt that he had been no stranger to speaking up on. He's not likely that the same pedigree and a lot of the other owners he'd get rich one directly but he is not a trust on real money like that. My self-made billionaire might want to you know make thinking that been to keep everybody happy. He's not afraid to go out on the land you thought that an iron even though it did not work out, you thought that I don't think that the Florida law, hiring people like you, what would Carolina have to give Krista McCaffery to consider making that type of move and there's so much straight pocket so many so many going on about really nothing wrong with the rocker is no reason to start shipping players offer anything like that because it is not a bad route. I bet Restoril either. I just don't know if Kristin's injury history. If you would even get anything that's worth considering like running bad about Todd Gurley go from I really really like is very, very short lot clicks with the seer one more thing on the way out. When we got to hear Pampers and center on Twitter@Sheena_Marie three.

When you're back in High Point were some of the spots that you have to visit about the amazing day and I don't even know where you can buy and drive it. They said the best show I definitely make High Point be like a tiny tiny town that but I cleaned out and they are very positive that but they like that. A lot of our old hangout spot. I think Kelly's still is there. I think it's like located in the Marathon gas station or something like that. It's always good to chat with you. We need to do this more often.

Yeah on Twitter@Sheena_Marie three. It is Sheena quick triad zone joining us. Thanks for the insight units appreciated got there she goes Sheena quick spending time with the is anything wrong hanging out at gas stations getting some food not know when I was growing up outside of Raleigh, Youngsville, North Carolina is my hometown. What's up and my spot are spotless sheets.

We hang out at sheets sheets is a good one. There was a Walmart not too far or target not too far down the way like our idea. This makes it sound like such a loser's to. I think the youngest generation of people, but we would grab like some candy or like some food and justly walk around target anyone to fund the night brisk walk around target out over and I love it. I use do the same sell me. My buddy we go to Circle K. Yeah, we get slushy's what Circle K you know the one in High Point right by Harris Teeter to rock Circle K me to the driver, but it does seem like that you hear fewer and fewer of those types of stories with the youngest generation, like why will we go to sheets when I could just hang out on oculus or online health.

See, we didn't have that now in college. I also prefer a way of life. Anyway, by the appreciate this correction from above city of said Cowboys got a fit and a six for Amari Cooper when he went to Cleveland I was talking about the first time Amari Cooper was traded when the Raiders traded him to the Cowboys. That's when it was a first-round pick. I forgot that he was moved multiple times but appreciate that note pays perm are joining us now from sports chalet in a place skips or plays with Hades I'm being told it's a mat rule special is I just lost my job a genre of music perm are definitely somewhere in the country on the right and it also got the is the offspring, not a nun. I want to get a job that the offspring all why is the offspring. Yeah but yeah some country bidders mother take the job and shove it there be a quitting song that a fire job but I'm sure there's room fired so will figure out what WG has dug up in just a little bit perm or heard from Steve Wilkes earlier today and some are saying this is a shot maybe it's like Dabo Sweeney all over again where he's gonna turn this thing around he's going to be the head coach can have the interim tag removed room and I like the story a little bit used to be a DC didn't get a real opportunity with the Cardinals. He's from Charlotte went to Appalachian State seems like the kind of guy you want leading your team by after rule was fired or Ron Rivera was fired a few years back Owen for all blowouts after Joe Brady was fired last year owing five average margin of 20 points per loss in those five games. I don't see any way Carolina turns it around, especially with the Baker Mayfield details any level of optimism moving forward for the 2022 Carolina Panthers not only optimism is the best thing for their fortunes right now is to be terrible, right. The whole goal is to get the number one pick an intake that of Victor window may have due to whatever waferboard like whatever trick to get Victor or all of the fabric bag think everybody taken the hurricane does not Charlotte.

Other sports undertaking to do you ruin his career to look right now, kick, and he will story again that they're destined to fail fail and you will story it is not like the inspiring coach that the Panthers will need to bring back some of fan interest especially if they can fill up easily, Christian carefully which is rumored but I'm not sure that likely based on how much money to make an offer to treat the story is that prolonged Charlotte outgoing port of like we called these expansion franchises what your expected franchise for a decade or so and then there was a little bit. If you're just going to rule 2003. You can 96 AA 1005 seem like maybe a 95 to make it seem like they were just to know more about franchises, but we are now getting into you know 30 years and more of about 130 years of order.

Try to get in under 30 years of the Panthers and not a whole lot to show for it Cleveland.

Daddy's the Lord works out. It can I dispel that notion for Charlotte like the Hornets you're right. One of the few teams that had never been to a conference championship game its final series right I buy that for the Panthers when I heard all these people dogging Marty, Ernie, oh my gosh. We had a bad general manager in a bad owner and Jerry Richardson got a yada yada yada. You don't know what bad looks like like the idea that like bad bad GM's do they miss on top 10 picks Marty Hermes top 10 picks in his career. These are the only top 10 picks yet. Julius peppers Jordan Gross cam Newton Krista McCaffery Wei Wei Loomis legally.

No settlement was terrible and that he help prepare this roster and get it to a Super Bowl. When I talk about the Cleveland's of the world until this past until like this recent spell of been going to the playoffs. Once we Baker playoff game in 20 years. The Panthers just had a guy go into the Hall of Fame this year and Sam Mills and they have a few others down the pike with Kike Lee and Steve Smith and Julius peppers like the Panthers all things, sitter, or spoiled like the Jaguars are the ones that you be having that conversation Jack Laura Super Bowl. Not right now but tell me about the Jaguar Super Bowl XIV having a conversation about the argument. I will redound that out there milled purely emotional Hall of Fame inductees are not actual Hall of Fame all a favor but that is 98, 98, not after the cancer diagnosis is 30 years old and no Super Bowl Pinkberry to roll the same like a brownbag bowl by more recently prepared further behind their interpreter like Burger King you tell me, tell me to Troy's last playoff and there are genes that have a working existing further but when you start coupling the pampered Hornets it starts to make pretty bad sports town and that story was growing right now. When the papers are to be auto chewing 15 three and 14 this year and grabbed with awarded cities. Super Bowl VII years ago said all I love you twitter since Luella got hurt, but I guarantee you have the chatter that Charlotte of the doomed sports town right now like I do say like Victor MasterCard team should be to try to better/so they could start the gripper driver and somehow we get them in Charlotte. I can't believe I'm defending the Carolina Panthers right now, but here we are, let's get to a special edition of skips or plays with Morris somewhat of a Renaissance man experience in the financing when he hangs his hat is no say like what is Zion is you can decide if this music/trash close swordplay dug up tracks. I hope you do a good job on this because I feel like there are a lot of interesting places you can go and you knocked it out of the park when we did the Blake Shelton addition a few weeks ago by pulling some of like Shelton's exes. You have a high mark to meet here where we starting in terms of I just lost my job music. Let's start all of with bartenders owned by rehab and really I don't know who we have is when I was in Amy Winehouse on the whole thing that you don't have the course of this one. And once that this is a huge head and you have we can curse words and I hope WDs believed out on a clean version of the claimant.

Here we go. Mark this is what you need to judge right here in the corridor and I did that already know that fathers are rather than a curse word and crash that peaceably Chevrolet I was scared I was really scared for inspected work to get out of here. It's like when they do snakes on the plane on on cable and it's not. I'm tired of these mother bleep and snakes it I'm tired of these Monday to Friday snakes. Yeah, there's a lot better version of that.

What is the second song were going to go with. We gotta get out of this place by the animal is a great job all her heart is to let it drive a great red light name check like you are available.

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Vietnam placed the bag your bill raising record low risk harm are don't know that song, which I did was the band got what you record. You might recognize that all usually I'm really good when it comes to bands or artists. Earlier today I was made out to be like. I don't know anything about music and I didn't know who Greta VanFleet was either okay while I can learn all about learning the things David Tepper's learning things he says yesterday. I didn't know there was a degree Charlotte I mean we can have all the songs live music man in 2022. I think the newest version of the music manner for the remake, starring David Tepper since there's trouble in there's trouble in the Queen city was where I would revert to earlier record on this earth for a whole segment. Okay, what is the last song though.

I'm just gonna play it is my job well.

Next time we visit. I expect maybe by the end of the week. I expect a Hayes per mar David Tepper music man type of cover or something like – yes with concerts. I think we can maybe work on that my good to see you at ACC tipoff in Charlotte, you will not be there.

Have a beer in the uniform do that. Thank you. Per Mark art there he goes that's Hayes per Mark joining us from sports Stanley had to stop them any started early start to get into the Cleveland's of the world, shut up. I mean I will put that one to rest for this is what happens when you're in your bubble, you think things are so bad when they're really not as bad as some of the other situations, the potential like Detroit. Detroit has won a playoff game since the Panthers have existed great example before this past year.

Cincinnati had not won a playoff game since the 80s were 91. 30 years what were talking about all things considered, 25, 27 year history. The Panthers have played into championship games to super balls conference championship to super balls and they that they had multiple Hall of Fame players Jacksonville on the other hand, one AFC championship or excusing to see championship never been to the Super Bowl, they got 30 Miceli Fred Taylor David Garrard and I getting into the Hall of Fame. Neither is Jimmy Smith that's what I got. The Panthers have Keithley Sam Mills is always an emotional Hall of Fame that statue up and 98. Not after he had his cancer diagnosis is what I have to say about that.

We talked, we talked about that when Steve Smith Julius peppers Keithley cam Newton who was the Jacksonville Jaguars league MVP love to hear about them. Carolina had one of those and defensive player of the year so it is not the same day Galvan was terrible really went to the playoffs in 2017 2013 20 to the playoffs more than he didn't go to the playoffs. All you so bad. So don't job Marty Hurley. What a disaster.

Holy had he had on Derek Brown. I'd say you hit on KM and Keithley and grows and pampers back. Those are the only top tendencies that not just cherry picking are no other first-round picks and no other top 10 text that he had been those guys never missed you know does miss the general managers of really inept organizations they mess all the time so sparely that with the Panthers in the context of the Hornets.

I'll listen that one's a little more thought. But if you go to be fair about that. Yes Pro basketball team Charlotte in the late 80s, but we just act like that the five years without a team didn't happen.

You had to start over from scratch. We just didn't happen.

But I don't think that's particularly fair girly hey you started a team there for a dozen or so years, maybe 15 and then you're gone for a few a few years and you have in the start over from scratch. I don't know if that's again I can think of 57 maybe 10 examples of cities that had it worse than Charlotte. Wonder this is right now. These cities I know have it worse than Charlotte Kennedy wanted is ready, Minnesota Minnesota hasn't been to the Super Bowl since the 70s and per mar's complaining about two Super Bowl appearances in 27 years.

What about bad playoff losses. Blair Walsh missing that one and see it again. Seattle was a chip shot about 98 was one of the Anderson kickers missing. It is Paul Anderson but it missed all year. Mr. Capon would've sent them to the Super Bowl. Randy Moss and Chris Carter. When your last Minnesota Twins memory Kirby pocket in the early 90s. Okay, who also my forgetting in that town. The why old and it was Stanley Cup and averted a rope in like other protein that we not going rope and the ones in Raleigh.

Charlotte sucks all we just added this case, a professional soccer team and the hurricanes are in the state of North Carolina. They want to Stanley Cup (count okay medicine. The Timberwolves, one of the Timberwolves ever done to Minnesota easily.

Worse, Detroit. I don't need to say more.

The Red Wings sure they were great. It's been a dozen years and I don't remember anybody do anything with the Red Wings in the last dozen years or so since Nick Lidstrom retired and company. Detroit is a worse sports down Cleveland you had Lebron, so that's okay Fossum were not to do when I could. Yeah, there we will leave Cleveland out of Cleveland is a much worse place to live then then Charlotte, New York. Can we do New York. I don't know Ranger 716 94 I think just because it's New York and you got so much money in such the fact that you haven't had a title in 10 years since the Giants did it. I was will include New York in this because you have twice as many teams as everybody else how the basketball teams does New York Ave. They had been garbage up there yeah you got you got to NFL teams. You got to want everything to baseball team M and include New York in this Yankees will last one in 09 Giants been terrible until now day so will will throw New York in this now it's starting to get really hard.

I don't know if Arizona coyotes, Diamondbacks, Cardinals, and watch. We forget like a team.

It's really super good out there. Phoenix narratives, but their owner is a creep in a racist boom, Arizona on the list are we sure we can get the 10 probably not, but I definitely more than three sure, so they don't belong in that conversation there.

I object to it. I pushed back not thinking about right now. I guarantee it is just a low point. That's all it is Houston. There's one yeah you stall yeah yeah yeah now I forgot Astros they cheated. Yeah, I did not counting the Astros they cheated, and in the Saxons are bad and who else are we talking about in the city of Houston. The Ron Rockets grows gross. The rockets bear. We got that Houston I was a good one. I believe I haven't thought of Houston already mentioned Jacksonville Pedro rope the Panthers under this were talking Jacksonville Florida sports got me fired up nicely