The Drive with Josh Graham - Drive Thru Decorum

I never be the white guy reading rap lyrics and the radio.

However, it's just too easy to my favorite Jay-Z rap lyrics from the song diamond Sierra Leone quote I'm not a business, business man man with wallet isn't comfortable, not merely awkward. That was yesterday that press conference.

I was standing inside the back just getting on the air yesterday saw the image on NFL network of Jay-Z sitting right next to Roger Caddell.

It's the purest example of light. The image speaking a lot louder than anything that came out of the commissioners mouth and the man that founded rock nation. The partnership of the last few days that is drawn a lot of scrutiny. There's been a lot of backlash towards Jay-Z and the man that's been furthering most of that backlash is Eric Reed who continues to spout off on twitter criticizing Jay-Z in the partnership altogether. The intentions of it is." Jay-Z doesn't need the NFL's help to address social injustices. It was a money move for him and his music business. The NFL gets to hide behind his black face the trying cover-up blackballing Colin hashtag neo-colonial was almost verbatim what he said about Malcolm Jenkins last year with the players coalition. Just listen to what Jay-Z has told us for a long time. He isn't a social activist.

He's a businessman. This helps Jay-Z's music business. It helps his talent agency with rock nation bought while it is helpful. Whatever was agreed to hear. It's not nearly as important for this deal to get done for Jay-Z as it was the NFL. The social injustice piece of this was the sticking point. I bet for the National Football League. The reason this gets done is because they have that at the end.

If it was just entertainment.

It's a no-brainer for Jay-Z.

Okay, you're a part of helping pick acts like the Super Bowl and trying to revamp things through art, but the social injustice part had to be there in order for the NFL to get exactly what it wanted guilt free access to black entertainers and culture.

A black face to take the blame if something should go wrong with what Jay-Z's pushing forth a guide to take charge, so the owners are the ones facing this any longer. And lastly, this berries calling Her neck in the NFL's scope.

They don't have to worry about that anymore. They've settled with Her neck and read and now that they have Jay-Z who already has a lot of credibility in that community that Colin Is well represented in, or has a lot of backing in.

They now don't have to worry about Her neck at all anymore which is why, according to the reporting by Jamel Hill for the Atlantic.

There are people in Who was who aren't happy Isn't happy. Apparently Jay-Z spoke to Colin on Monday that conversation. According to reports did not go well and you could see why, but Jamel asked the fundamental question that I think speaks to the intentions of the NFL that I think we all know the answer to, but it still worth asking is there any chance this partnership is reached into thousand 19. If Colin copper Nick never knelt before a football game.

Does this ever happen. If not for The way that it is here.

Will the NFL partner would Jay-Z in the name of social injustice. In addition to the entertainment aspect. If Her neck three years ago yesterday didn't start kneeling blackballed for the last two seasons in the NFL.

Thoughts are welcome on twitter at 336-777-1600. That's the phone number we are on twitter at sports hub triad just I think I think the NFL's matter Jay-Z for a hot minute so I can't really say that I can say that justice what happened in 2019.

Regrowth of Catholic existed or milk drink like that the entertainment side of it yeah I think the NFL's been wanting to do something with Jay-Z in some sort of capacity for quite a while and they're looking at it like like you said is a win-win for us. It covers a bunch of different bases and things we had 956 years ago something that popped up a couple years ago their own social and so on that notion. Yeah I would. I would think that this is something NFL has craved for a while. Maybe Jay stayed away from it for a while until the moment was right for him or not, honey, you know how I'll continue furthering it the optics are terrible for Jay-Z when he's the one out here criticizing the NFL and also wearing the Jersey on Saturday Night Live and even having the song where he said quote what once again white guy reading rap lyrics once I said no to the Super Bowl you need me. I don't need you every night we in the end zone. Tell the NFL. We in stadiums two" now you cut a deal. Do we know what Jay is getting compensation while I'm still that's not to come out there so that's that's I would imagine Jay what what ever it is, though it's not worth the credibility hit here for Jay-Z. I don't think it is Jay-Z's well-off Jay-Z's fine. Jay-Z is already making hand over fist.

What he's doing with rock nation and with his music Jay-Z's fine.

This credibility hit him not to go as far to calm a sellout. I'm not go as far to dismiss his entire track record because that's something that's done that. I think is completely irresponsible. We only react to the latest thing, even if this partnership dismisses and NFL circles. Colin copper Nick like I think it doesn't, berries and a little bit here that doesn't take away the other stuff Jay-Z did so I I'm not wanting to say that this singular thing is what's going to define Jay-Z, but there's no question that this hurts his credibility in the name of social justice. It just.if you're partnering with the NFL and you're doing so with out any support from Eric reading Colin copper Nick doing so okay limit. Let me ask you this question then went when Kanye was doing the Kanye stuff, seven, eight months back and, pledging allegiance to Pres. Trump and things of that sort. I know your huge Kanye West fan of Kanye West did it change your view of Kanye West now music or anything fandom wise towards Connie because I don't care about and I don't care really that much about Jay-Z. Whether or not he supported Colin or did I didn't care because I always viewed Jay-Z as a capitalist first as a business person, someone who was great at business, I view him the way I view Lebron in basketball where person hit. He is business before anything else. His business is basketball just like Jay-Z's business is music and now representing people. This move furthered his music business. It furthered rock nation.

That's what it's all about but I know to a lot of people. They think these musicians, Kanye, Jay-Z had given Lebron a basketball represent something a lot more. I'm not one of those people. I view them as entrepreneurs as business people.

I'm not looking for any moral arbitration. Any type of moral guidance based on these entertainers and rappers, but I might be in the minority of me. I do think it's I understand both sides of it and and I kinda lean more towards the notion of trusting Jay-Z what I believe the man knows what he's doing so I assume it's more wait-and-see for me with that everything is that 30 years of this work that is satisfying, but that image yesterday of Jay-Z sitting next to Roger Caddell answering those questions. Not good that what aggressively when Colin copper Nick reportedly did not approve of this partnership whatsoever. Dave Chapelle is in the news today that you see this on August 26. He's going to have a standup special air on Netflix tests. It's not his third one is it.

Yes, the third out the same time. In 18 that I thought multiple ones came out.

Once I guess it's the third leg of this I don't know how many specials there was to the came out the same time when he first signed the Netflix deal. They have been on Netflix.

This would be the newest when the third one I think he sent a 44 showed well he did a second one, a second series want anyway. It's a new Dave Chapelle standup act and it's just crazy to me, and 2019. Dave Chapelle is still seen as the top standup comic around. He's the one that's the most revered of everybody.

Eddie still as dangerous, ambitious and sharp as ever.

He's the most ambitious that's the word that everybody uses with him. I'm concerned about cotton comedy altogether there comedians that refuse to go on college campuses because of safe spaces and offending people saying things that might offend somebody if you are a person that gets offended by a comic. Shame on you, what you doing I roll my eyes.

Anytime I hear someone get offended by a comic.

That's kind of the point you if you go to a standup show and you get offended you probably should've the been at a standup show in the first place. You are not the intended audience you're not in on the joke you don't know it's supposed to be happening here after the jazz annex when my favorite comics all him in Los Angeles a few times he's fantastic but his stick. I guess is just being unafraid and saying the meanest possible thing you can sometimes it's vulgar sometimes it's incredibly dark, but that that's comedy and point I used to say that Louis CK was the guy bought two years ago with the headline of ham and some of the weird crazy's strange stuff he was involved in an into that didn't really jive with a lot of people. He kinda got put away. I don't know if he got canceled.

He's probably going to make a return if I had to guess, I don't think he's done yet, but he was the face of standup comedy for a four or five year stretch.

Who's the next Dave Chapelle can't be it for much longer. So who is the standup act of this generation that were looking at. If I had to nominate what I think it's John Mullane. He said these last two specials that were just filler and he's selling out massive venues that pretty expensive prices. I tried to see him in Durham because the hundred $20 for a cheap ticket feces all over the place so I think Mullane is the God or maybe even Winston-Salem's own Gerard car library go that's also nominate. I looked around, great. Except he did the HBO thing that's weird going back home. Yeah Holmes Winston-Salem but nowhere in the actual thing because he mentioned Winston-Salem. It definitely looks outside with meal expressways from going so I don't know what neighborhood he moved his family to put that's not a topic that's where he grew up with a show that's supposed to be multiple parts I would say one part thereof into the second one is housing. The second is untitled the same CFT on HBO and look for it so it's not that the person calling home movies or something like that home movies. That's right. The second called something else I can relate is, but it popped up on my featured tab on HBO and a watch that is 30 minutes. It's the thing I'm waiting for the part where Carmichael walks into Glenn high school, we see that that would be cool. I'd like that. The drive is brought to you in part by her friends at the law offices of Timothy Wellborn. They sponsor the studio that were sitting in right now.

You can learn about the waste and Wellborn helps you online@timwellborn.com. You'll know when you need us coming up three in-state college football teams flying under the radar right now. This is the drive will have 609 20 thanks to all the listeners came out I was find a plan that we have a throwback segment that we do with Baron von to be here in 15 minutes the last one of our listeners. Brian was his name. What what team should we do that the Chicago Cubs so that in literally 15 minutes ago I got a text from a family member at Wrigley field right now pouring the entire stadium incredibly jealous that and I was jealous of our next last week covering the Panthers preseason game in Chicago had a chance to visit Wrigley Field as well. It's Jordan Rodrigue back on the show who you can follow at Jordan Rodrigue and read the athletic.com/Carolina Jordan did Wrigley Field live up to the hype really really great. And valid item for me to check on it with people. A letter of the recurring game itself is really getting them to be able to see how the story that the other kind every day during your coverage during some of your colleagues coverage Panthers training camp in Spartanburg. We always read about courtesy ambulance all video every day he was doing something but I am naturally skeptical and cynical at times, wondering okay yeah you doing this against Panthers dB but then he does it against Bill's dB just how good has Curtis Samuel look what kind of player is he now.

Well now we actually are basically around everything we thought a lot going exactly where praying anything like that welding I carry health thing kind you build writer Herman Renick getting me while we are watching in drought and your winning and why. I really sat back and literally no plan to try all he can now get me know what you know where he that when you you cannot you very rare complement I think are mainly Eric Reed was tweeting again today in response to the rock nation NFL partnership with Jay-Z and in response to a story. I think from Jamel Hill at the athletic, he said, quote Jay-Z doesn't need the NFL's help to address social injustices.

It was a money move for him and his music business. The NFL gets to hide behind his black face to try and cover-up blackballing Colin hashtag neocolonialism. Doesn't this sound like almost verbatim, the same argument he was making last year with Malcolm Jenkins and the players coalition well. The last couple of days I think you can learn a lot people can learn a lot very well.

I think that type of thing in common Methods when rock nation partnering with definitely a timeline.

I don't think he had to take to make and compare the matter fact talking about how we treat tweeting what public speaker, PhD candidate and he that a lot like the players coalition and Malcolm Jenkins, Eric Reed been very vocal about the thing about what he feels and turned the message being converted and hypocrisy sound by Miami Dolphins owner either very quaint when he was seeking about that as well and partner with the brand actively tried to players that got especially common And then go well and pretend that you are thinking like that and we can really hear that we got yet another noisy eight people. The article might not you can actually typically what they're saying and learn from them and I think in the thing that I respect about what Eric Reed and Kenny Stelzer saying in this name-calling, culture that we seem to live in right now, neither our calling Stephen Rosser Jay-Z name they are criticizing mainly the action where Stephen RX is McKinney stills he went out publicly as I'm not criticizing Stephen Ross for being friends with the president of the United States.

I'm specifically talking about this business partnership and how it how conflating it with different ideas and ideology versus here Eric Reed is not scolding Jay-Z a sellout by any means or even the neocolonial neo-colonialist.

These specifically just pointing to this specific move being something that he objects to wiping their really great at L on and the point that we have to record really get the point about Jordan. Tomorrow is preseason game number two with the Buffalo Bills in town give me the number one thing you're looking to see well and a lot of it started get any very little playing time looking at the same thing that I like last week that I back up running backs competition started working out back injury last week is so painful to think about all of it back.

And without several day working through that working back to being the light Holyfield find a Jordan credit with meeting at Christian McCaffrey back at, and I think that I think they want to keep around the young writer battling job and really try you look at the rock there really I think that they carried that they get the important and that they get the important of the really important he had got and then I'm looking to see really wanted to make after three factor and fell last week where he had a pretty rough start and I think that that's something that you have been Cantrell Allen and will grant that can't maintain it in a game going to look when you make an efficient rate and run the I think that there last week and next week. He stepped up to try to get every drop from the women of insight from Jordan Rodrigue year of the athletic Carolina Panthers.

The reporter on Twitter at Jordan Rodrigue, the athletic Carolinas. You can find her as well. Before we let you go food and football.

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There, but Darren you tell me what the most ridiculous thing Antonio Brown did this off-season is let me give you the running list. He made a complete mess of the Steelers locker room Talking trash about his teammates to the point where he had the forts trade for Pittsburgh. I've never seen anybody do that successfully make such a muck of things they had to get rid of the player even though he was the most talented player at his position in any other player on the roster, but that nowhere close to the top of the list know it's not good in my not make the top last week alone in the last week. You have the chef story, capping a week we have the cryotherapy stuff and his feet which looked gross again.

We got a lot of close up to episode two of hard knocks on HBO. Then the helmet incident and threatening not to return and play for the Raiders at all. If he can't wear his old helmet.

A lot of players displeased with these new helmet regulations Tom Brady among them. But just dealing with it never causing a complete gripe about it, never threatening not to play lost the grievance then reported to On Tuesday a few others he had the Hollywood Hogan gold mustache when he was doing an interview and cry for help I think was Jeff Darling from ESPN death. Yet the gold mustache which is never a good look. Has that ever work hoagie despise it. Hollywood Hogan. It worked for, but ethnically that ever work. Having the blonde mustache. I was just trying to figure out who was a black guy that knows been able to pull off a golden mustache. Nobody has Wesley Snipes done that before referral obscene people like Dr. goatee like the chin but not not the goat like you can let him game ended it last year.

They also got in a hot air balloon in order to arrive into training camp at Napa Valley and let's not forget remember that pay service that was a huge thing for a week cameo you could pay random celebrities to say things for you. Tonio Brown to pay $500 to get them to say something and to say it poorly, just like this is anniversary as we celebrate birthdays boom. Your second anniversary is a second anniversary with a big smile on his face – it doesn't stack up because I understand if someone of his level of fame would want to do the cameo shout outs thing to make an extra buck, but if he's doing that why you also like throwing didn't throw the TV out of the window or year ago.

He had this this or do you have an apartment. To this off-season right right because the winter we know what the crazy for a while live in during the Steelers post game with a bunch of his naked teammates around Tom when doing the posting speed stated that the top of the list but were just limited get the last round is a qualify for his haircut going in the last year that would be on the list to just limiting the scope of this off-season. What's the craziest of the bunch. There, it's gotta be the helmet thing but was just such a weird saga the way it was laid out and like you said every other NFL player has acquiesced to the new rules I I think I'm probably good to go. Hollywood Hogan mustache. If I had to pick I think it's not the craziest but it's the biggest red flag right that one works for me. Another thing that's been going on me and Dez went to lunch today and I was that where'd you go.

We went to a fast food restaurant. We were in the drive-through. We had a past discussion before though and Dez thought it was strange when I said that there was a common critique that someone had for me that I am too friendly this is and someone else. I've given you that I am too friendly and survive through those I have given you this Chris is off like this from your Josh out there in the car with Josh before the drive-through. Yes. Okay. I've been to elaborate up a larger sample size that I've been on the phone with Josh as he goes through the drive through and given him this exact criticism will okay so today we get the drive-through right just had a great conference call were were ready to get going for the show eat, you know, eat, go to the drive-through bring back we get to the drive-through and a lovely female voice comes through the speaker right your boy Josh Graham asked him as he pulled her name was no sheep and she offered that you have done that Saturday was Sarah and from that point on I Sarah how are you voice went for his wife a little deeper and like he started throwing someone on the merits of the passages, were so subtle they were like sheep she would repeat the order you like what I said I want to be exact snack that I know the soft cost extra know you better sit struck the light hey can you throw in an extra sauce. It could be just a little sick. You even said that way there he was like before I was like that is ordered and he's like, and if he could only got one of those extras asked for me something else, but gross. Like okay you love to do that Sarah could you do that for me Sarah exactly what is true that one of the natural workings going on. I know shame of what I said and that you're just a larger point of my larger point to make because I am the one who specifically critiques you in this way, Josh. I and this is just me it's it's I am polite to the degree to which I need to be polite, but I'm not going to go out of my way to add to the politeness they are similar conversation they food. This is not very transactional. All I was a guy on the other side of the hundred percent would've done that he would not of lowered your voice.

I have and I will never I'm never short order or mean to a drive-through worker or ready when this get this is to support you know a cashier at a grocery store or anything like I'm never short order or mean or or or whatever but I just it it neat. All it needs to be is a very quick, very polite thing. Nothing extra. And I just find that you often go a little bit extra with the other pheromones in the air.

There were no no you could feel. I don't quite know that the gender of the drive.

They were not matter at all that was. This is a thing with Josh regardless of hundred percent was a guy I talked the same exact way.

That was it. 2019 asked them as we pulled away from the speakers like that you just that girl with the thing you talk about my storage and handling of food your toes like you were talking or likely oval finishes at the drive-through window not, we pulled to the drawing window and Adam comes to the window like oh, wait, jargon tending to this and now you are yet again on this point, there was no game was just being friendly to someone. I did that one time and I got a free cookie to get a free exactly stuff that I didn't charge me for the Zaxby's sauce why because I was playing it cool friend go handling. Anecdotally, I'll leave it here anecdotally well I like someone could take that as your point and and twisted in the way that I think you're trying to get people to twist because I know Josh and I've seen multiple examples of this.

I doubt he was flirting, not at all document. I am as you haven't spent enough time around me when it comes because the women know what you know I still know it's more than last night's karaoke. He knows I may sing karaoke last night to say throwing that out there are become movie lines to do it's in the nose and its port of dried, in addition to that, what is the appropriate level of friendliness to show someone handling the food in the drive-through line at sports of Triad. I'm speaking very low so I'm not flirting with you listener I know a lot is made all right yet does is it in your pants over the go while white what was the – was the best baseball 7 o'clock Thursdays right here on the sports up with throw movie lines of next is 920.

Now back to the drive with Josh Graham Joe while with this now. The voice of the Winston-Salem that Sharon would Baron von movie lines at sports of dryad. A lot of this week but we actually have an update on this entire drive-through situation me going to Zaxby's with Desmond, him claiming I was flirting with drive-through lady what you have Jeff Kurzweil's job is one of our loyal listeners down the line, but he wanted to chime in that very familiar with Sarah's voice exactly as he was there yesterday and her voice actually actually be nice to her to the speaker as well. He left the phone call and said all Josh was definitely flirting with Sarah many good Joe. What is the appropriate level of friendliness and a drive-through line when you're ordering food Joe what's the appropriate level of friendliness line here. If you're asking for food ordering food on her part ever part of that they like to have the bank you you know maybe there like a joke that's out there you can make it, but then you should be underway.

Wait to what I got what you got.

All I ask for an extra sauce but did so in a way where I was. Hey, I knew asked. It cost extra, but I said hey just do this it'll be our little secret to be our little secret. Just what I think you charged with assault. What would you say the tone that you said I didn't get charged with assault in the character of the exactly you hours ago conversation exact snack to base Dr Pepper to drink light ice and included actors axle to be just between us to bring what would you do when the window like you say wink out loud weekly ring around also be self-indulgent for a second even more self-indulgent. How should I feel is an Orioles fan losing 16 consecutive games to the New York Yankees. I feel bad I got white where Gary Thorne broadcasting is exceptional. I love Gary Thorne and I think what he has been doing on the bike. I appreciate it if you could try to spin it one way or the other and he goes full throttle with how accurate the Orioles, but hey got that we had no first-round pick for what seem like a whole decade and Kevin Durant.

We got Kari Irving there's hope for you in the future I can now be the person that can belong to pre-talk to people I don't feel right now. Some of the movie calls from last week. Joe Wilde did an excellent job working them into the Winston-Salem – broadcast like you can hear later tonight at 7 o'clock to be the first of his calls was a runner on first, nobody out situation. Then Andrew Vaughn lined it to the third baseman Blanco doubled off Cruz at first base. The 01 on eval to counter nothing into Cruz was bouncing off first base after the pitch and the pelicans essentially put the money back in the box.

I recording that double-play that's well done that so good David Jackson voice of Appalachian State mountaineers, the former voice of the mountaineers was very impressed by that one plated on Friday. Next call pressure situation where you're the bottom of the first inning – get their first lead of the series, the first top situation, saying hello pressure breakfast the bottom of the first inning I was way you just go right back into the flow of it.

After these is maybe the best part way, I found the humor of the wind really filling it to the point of it in the car and sounds normal and I get back to gameplay in the night here you that you know like the fight club. How they show that the work bracket character cuts out the movie clip to have like one you know one not so you are not so family-friendly clip within a family-friendly movie like I want to get away with on the project I worked to leave it in like that. I appreciate my scope Joe still fancier tonight.

All around the lower ball hanging out in their seats, heading off to the clerk in Anderson Grill are some of the other great places here in South Carolina.com 21#3 in one burger from this facility is a tasty burger 31 have the people listening didn't even realize that that was a bit that's the beauty of it, and that's why chose the best on Twitter@Joe_while I'm in for the first movie line that you hear actually Darren tell me which of these are better. I watched the town multiple times.

The last few days. Nice tell me which one you like better. I can tell you what it is going. I can't tell you what it is you never asked me about it and were going to hurt some people. That's one also same scene guy get hammered in the legs and he responds there goes college soccer. There goes college soccer is that when Joe I can't tell you what part of that is Jeremy Renner line right after that which was everything after college, so there's another one I don't know if we could do all you care about is cooking Xbox but maybe later we upper Joe and I get a deep cut this week guys and it's it's actually from a television series rather than a movie from somewhat breaking the rules, but we've done so before I recently dove back into true Detective not not the good one not met McConnaughhay Woody Harrelson all season to I'm trying to convince myself that there's some merit their own. I love this line from Vince Vaughn's character, Frank never do anything out of hunger, not even eating wow not even go to the Twitter you let me know which one is the best. Here Darren I'm gonna region a couple. Brent says and from days of thunder. I want you to go out there and hit the pace car. We also have which good luck trying to figure out how to get that was as good as it gets cells sell crazy somewhere else were all stocked up here who and we also have from grumpier old men if my dog was as ugly as you, I'd save as button. Teach them how to walk backward what you like. There I love days of thunder, but that's virtually an impossible line to get in.

I love grumpy old man but I think the as good as it gets line is what we should do it right else so crazy somewhere else were all stocked up your radio so cell so crazy somewhere else were all stocked up here the never do it out of hunger, not even need from Vince Vaughn and there goes college soccer is your life this week to get harder every week direction pretty easy got out of there because you is a pretty easy like it a lot different, but not Joe makes it look easy point of the fact Joe all set about that guy. Have a good call tonight. Thanks for doing all right extra while was the – 7 o'clock broadcast tonight, and that's also if there is lot right now to Darren with a snap. Always a pleasure guys.

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