The Drive with Josh Graham - Panthers Bucs Post Mortem

I have no good explanation for what happened and really that's what I think the source of the players in that locker room and the fans for Carolina starting with cam Newton's help and continues to be a mystery. He looks her everything we hear from the Panthers is that he's right. Cam even says that he's working.

But he doesn't say that he's hurt. He is well enough to play better than he did last night and Ron Rivera even said that he wasn't considering cam's foot and deciding to give the ball to Krista McCaffrey in a direct snap and fake to Curtis Samuel on the fourth downplays that the foot had nothing to do with that.

So were left looking at this and I really do think that it's the nightmare scenario for Carolina that cam Newton is actually in fact healthy versus being hurt.

Let me explain if cam is injured. There's relief in finding an answer right okay cam Newton circuits his foot into shoulder Panthers tell us that after last night and we set all of course that makes sense. That's why Carolina lost to Tampa Bay cam Newton is banged up and they told us this what I believed to be the worst scenario is the coaches are telling the complete truth. Cam Newton's healthy, and this is what he is now not running it is often not being that lion, as he likes to say at points of just missing open receivers even though the arm strength was there and they had explosive blaze and they outgained Tampa, Carolina lost the game and cam Newton's health is a part of the discussion.

Again, just like where we were at last year Carolina losing a ton of close games make nine games in a row Carolina's loss where the opposition is actively trying to beat you with everything they have New Orleans Saints did not do that in the finale because they were per are preparing for the postseason. Carolina hi hi allowing playing quarterback.

There are no good explanation. The offense of playcalling. Whether it's the fourth downplays or the end of the half or cam Newton throwing 50 times for just the second time in his career Darrell Williams is a very good offer to tackle just getting beat by a simple bulrush or a simple speed rush Jack Barrett just waxing Darrell Williams who was an all-pro player just a few years ago Chris Godwin cooking Dante Jackson all night long, wide receiver, expecting to Dr. Jackson's this is it, nor Turner.

This is a cam Newton those are guys that you we we thought were pretty good and they got worked by players. Yesterday we were paying proper respect to it was a but what Tampa Bay deserved to win that game came down to the end with the painters coming up a yard short paper could've won that before we arrived at that place and probably should have Justin Winston-Salem once in on the Panthers.

Justin this this almost serves as a postmortem that I Justin what's your thought on the Panthers falling to the box now be you know when to what what your character torments whenever a monitor is a much play. I believe that the new older and not a pocket pastor and honestly I guess the hot take would be we should start looking for new QB. Wow, thanks for going that far already think you just appreciate the call.

And as for karaoke performances. I think the audience is audiences had enough of that this week going up there trying to do my best, Hunter Renfro impression. I don't think that played very well.

You could sweep the show at sports hub triad if you care to chime in that way, but Carolina is acting like the seasons over. At this point does do you have karaoke, of course you do gotta make sure to work that in thanks for doing that seasons not over. At this point we sought from Seattle last year.

Houston was owing to the book made the playoffs was go to Duane and Thomasville who has thoughts on Camden shoulder, Duane, go right ahead love to share them shoulder surgeries in the same and never will be the same again physically may not be a medical exam in his mind he's always going to favor the shoulder is always going to have that on the back with mine and you lock. I think the writing on the wall. He can explain what he was everything way not to. We should move on Duane. How far can you throw the football. After six shoulder surgery and all we can to pro football but psychologically it's different thank you doing Greg Olson knows what it's like to be on the no into football team and make the postseason. The Panthers in 2013 row into and made it with the 12 and four record. Here's what he had to say and I think this sums up the locker room about as well, as it looked. 1 o'clock. I try to bring to you what that locker room looks like when I go in there and talk to guys and there was a lot of BS and a lot of stuff that didn't really result and stuff worth playing on the year for you guys. I won't say any names, but then we get the Greg Olson's locker and that guy is brutally honest about everything, and I think this is about as candid as it gets, the odds are against you is that I will have the answers. I know what their asses off to two times out a road their asses off tonight defense Alice Alabama South Dallas out what drives your drive to drive you. I so when you lose at home to Tampa Bay. There's no such thing as a gimme. I think on a short week, especially, but Carolina stretch in the next five games isn't all that daunting, or make it the next four Panthers with extended rest will go on the road face Arizona Texans game looks pretty tough. The following week on the road and no return home likely place facing Gardner Minshew and the Jaguars which is again Carolina very well could win. In addition to the Arizona game.

The Buccaneers in London now even though they lost it home. I think anybody thinks of the neutrophil Carolina ticket Tampa Bay the second time around. If Carolina goes three and one of those four games.

I think everyone's back on the bandwagon and think that you could be a playoff team yet again. So don't jump off the ship yet because Carolina is owing to write out to my best bets for the football weekend.

I am forwarding to forwarding to in my best bets through the first two weeks and I think I got three winters here desert the music game tonight.

BB&T Field, Winston-Salem, Wake Forest three point favorite against North Carolina to win this game by double-digit and send a message that they are the best team in the state of North Carolina top three team in the ACC. Why don't I don't think North Carolina space offense quite like what Dave Clawson had.

I don't think you want to face the coach is good is Dave Clawson is and on top of that one has played a true road games yet on top of that, it's a short week for North Carolina following a very physical game that resulted in North Carolina losing starters, I think, what is the better team got a coach very good quote is six-year all his guys backgrounds in your one, North Carolina has a pretty good quarterback Wake Forest one today to win tonight. I'm thinking Jamie Newman over to him how it has a higher ceiling. How does Newman is a redshirt junior and Sam now is a true freshman Wake Forest is giving three I think you're going to win by 10 tonight. Wake Forest -3 is my first task that tomorrow in college football, so I was like let Sam Washington fill one agency Stanford is playing UCF. I love the fun Air Force plus for a Colorado is a pretty good game to look at but it's not the best bet Cincinnati I'm in love with Boise State in the group 5 is all very good setback and the undefeated regular season for the last two years.

Brandon Wimbush is not an upgrade from McKinsey Milton out for this entire season after entering his leg in multiple places in the conference to future game last year. Stanford meanwhile there owing to last week without the starting quarterback KJ Costello back this week probable to play. It's a nine point spread on now excellent coach you got your quarterback back.

This is a team that was in the preseason top 25. They very well might be UCF nine points this is a steel portal +9 then you got Sunday afternoon action Jaguars in Houston South. They play close games over the and I know Gardner Minshew is easy to overlook, but is just really asked much of the quarterback to do so would like portals made and almost went to a Super Bowl facing the patriot then you have Nichols coming in the world on fire.

Pretty comfortable and I cover committees. Carolina's favoritism thereto led the nation in passing in Washington state a year ago, nine point spread to see the way saints offenders, and specifically the defensive line got to the quarterback on Monday night, shortly for Houston. The Jaguars defenses going to swarm. They very well could win the game again +9 Felt Way too much. There is my best three bets force -3 against North Carolina Stanford +9 UCF Jaguars used in a minute take the +9 money on it and that's how it's done or people still mad right now are the phone line still jumping with people what they are made. We could get to them after Brent Wilkerson knew and Dave Polaski drop by if UNC wins what will that teach us about the Tar Heels tonight.

Focus new will give us a lab report from BB&T Field to discuss his 609 24 communicate to the drive Josh Graham not wait and it wasn't great football North Carolina teams owing to you that any money passed away this morning at 70 years old cotton trying to tear things up for us.

Now the voice of the deeps is now with us and we actually have to stand cottons on the show right now but fans. Wake Forest fans are curious about this because we did this once before with you in studio and your boy Stan cotton on Twitter at not stand cotton on the phone.

Now we have not stand cotton and I can confirm he is a person he's in studio right now and Stan is on the phone at BB&T Field is North Carolina's good except the face Wake Forest Stan Montague man, you're telling me that not really pleasant bones. I'm looking at him right now. He has been how would you describe your your jacket you have on there you have your hoodie on my cluster after shirt, which is little bit of the combination of our great coach Dave Clawson writing a velociraptor is becoming fierce and I can see dad's got a deacon had on so he's here, I can confirm you heard his voice warm and I knew it was a someone in person meeting not stand cotton make any sense.

How it ties it makes sense, but we still haven't gotten you guys in the same place together. So there are people calling shenanigans on this well I get it. I look can you do what can you do what can you do to help us all out. I well I'm facilitating conversation.

The next step where you should've invited me to your locale to work. I am actually in Kernersville for so you got work to do and that work is Wake Forest and North Carolina will get you Boise and cottons thoughts on this in a second, but in my mind, stand looking at this game when you're talking about stakes in perception and and what a game represents I really feel like this might be the biggest home game of Dave Gallant of the Dave Clawson era because expectations are such that this might be Dave Clawson's best team in order for them to reach the goals that they have so loftily put out there for themselves.

I think he got up when this game, don't you think you could certainly make that argument. I think it's a game that I'm real is happening at your waking Carolina to play every year in football. I don't know how we get that done. It's not going to get done badly, but it should it should be in Rome to say when I kick it off and Caroline and Wakeling put on the game in the state and back to late 1880s and get expansion all that and most of the drippings from conference expansion are really really good, but this is really bad ones that teams like this with history like this don't play your way basketball up until this coming year with expanded basketball schedule but that they don't they don't play every year and I don't know you have the old-timers not Mr. well battle with the big four history all that is working to play every year on the gridiron taste of what could be nothing. What's going to be just what it could be like again but should be a lot of fun. You have a good North Carolina Wake Forest story, not necessarily something that happens on the field but something that surrounds the rivalry anything that comes the mine know about dad and I been around the late 90s and therefore few years.

We played every year I remember it. Games, most notably in my mind is in Chapel Hill and Jim Crow was go 20 came from of English 23 down to win at Kenan Stadium. Biggest comeback win in workforce history but remember that game game in 06 when we cattle a lot of things go which way in several games, including a game in Chapel Hill on the way to the ACC championship.

I remember moments like that. Nothing really around the rivalry other than this been going on doggone longer. As I said earlier, we we should now played every year. I think it's good to be tough to do that any short of expanding the league schedule nine games a year, and John Curry told us earlier this week. This is something he would be in favor well I think in word and have John on our air to think is not in favor this game now. It is origin expanded football schedule. All I'll leave that to the athletic directors cannot just in the heart of hearts, not sure I see that happening.

But you know I don't know but I guarantee you John Curry is in favor this game here to even jacket you got here in this scene is coming me and I have been anticipating this day I think our fan base likes to Carolina's band based should like it. It's a good one for the community of so many Tar Heel fans in this neck of the woods and obviously wakes backyard so you think that stadium will be packed in like Leon. Hopefully the weather stays away and we can go anything you want to say to your boy Stan cotton before election going broadcast a football game tonight. You know were coming up to Boston College in a couple weeks.

If you remember the last time we were there. Larry and I were trying to find you, and we just ran out of time to wear outside GPS working in the states were against us that day as we tried to meet for the first time, but maybe maybe in a couple weeks.

What he said once again here in two weeks.

Boston College and the place and we got picked out is right outside the stadium, not to make you and Larry walk very far.

But you guys want to come by love to meet you love to hang out with the caller. Our games would love to see it happen. We gotta make it happen. Take a photo so people get off our backs right or maybe we don't. Maybe we just let it ride in make a wonder I like some mystery legend, the legend of your boy Stan cotton stand is what I'm not is on Twitter at Stan cotton WF. Have a great call my friend will see you soon. Thank you, right at Stan cotton alright so what you think your boy Stan cotton you are a Wake Forest man. You got your costs. Sarah tops Clawson raptor hoodie on and it's a great I've seen this before. Dave Clawson writing a velociraptor which I think is Dale or Brennan's favorite dinosaur both their favorite dinosaur and stepbrothers and you have the deacon hat on backwards. You are representative of the Wake Forest man, Stan represents Wake Forest. You represent Wake Forest man I need you to tell us how we should be feeling right now I need to tell us what happened. I tell you right now we should be feeling great. We should be walking into this game with a lot of confidence but also a lot of awareness of just how much this rivalry means oldest oldest college football rivalry in the state of North Carolina. A lot of people who attended both schools grew up rooting for one team.

Everything that another and often times we force kind gets pushed off a little bit as a little brother speaking little brothers.

We got a big matchup tonight between the start brothers and sage. He is disproven in the past two games in all of last season.

He is the real deal. He's a big threat out there on the ends and I'm fielded James Newman's can be slinging him some bombs and causing a lot of heartache for his for his brother on the other side in the Carolina defense boy Stan cotton representing white fans. Desmond Johnson is a North Carolina fan who also can't name more than five UNC football players – how do you respond that your boyfriend can't the wrong day to come to the studio. I like what I'm I'm sorry you got short amount of sleep. Imagine how I feel right now is that I expect a good game. I'm happy. Both teams are undefeated because it's never happened before in the history of the of the series blackjack way something else not home like I think North Carolina act out the frustrations of the entire football loving and base those that love North Carolina Tar Heels and the Carolina Panthers. They're looking for a win this weekend. The only opportunity got sorry boy I presage government but yet the road they say that absolutely, I think that Carolina fans are coming off two big lands and yet there daydreaming thinking a lot about that Clemson and I'm telling you something right now is daydreams are about to turn into boogie – nightmares wall boogie as we've heard from Dave Clawson boogie starting to look like buggy and that is going to cause a lot of heartache for Sam how not back up to you what man I'm not into dreams amend the nightmares map – nightmares. I'll be I'll be frank with you all. Even on the Clemson game is like two weeks away my work right here right now is in the tray follow they come to BB&T stadium, but the latest on the demon deacons and Tiburon.

Neither of you guys are good at talking trash you guys are.

I'm just not a Nursing care. Again, you can you cut a promo for us very quickly.

I'm relying on you to bring it to dress like British guys here so I'll tell you right now that Wake Forest was trying to honor the FCC regulations about cursing on the air like I'm talking about WWE all the time you something right now brother to come and get you with us. They can feel the wrath of these mill victory.

Now go, what you try probably do not want to come out.I appreciate your on Twitter at not cotton. I was fun. I think it was one time I was going to ask you to have you in studio and visit with your boy Stan cotton College Game Day to Chapel Hill. That's next on the drive will no mercy here with Josh Graham, 609 20 white look like Superman last night. Panthers are owing to the nightmare scenario for Carolina that he's hurt and that inhibit Carolina does the rest of the season for even worse scenario that he's actually healthy and that the coaches are saying the truth here and that is not limited to shoulder, and not limited with his foot because if the latter is so, then he had that awful game against Tampa perfectly fine, which I think would be more confounding and more interesting to explore your thoughts are welcome on Twitter at sports on triad 336-777-1600 if you want in on the show. That way the cop from the Raleigh news and Observer will join us in 10 minutes to further talk about Panthers box and on top of that it into tonight's game. Wake Forest and North Carolina. BB&T Field in Winston-Salem. Michael is in Winston-Salem and once in on the NFL Michael what you have for me playing out.

Do you think going to retire after. Are you still going with your theory of make the playoffs and the Raven. Thank you for the call Michael. First off with cam Newton I think it is all depends on this year. What happens with the future of camp because he has one year left on his contract if he has a good seasoning Carolina makes the postseason and he does so and he's healthy. By the end of the year. It's a no-brainer. You extend them as a path or in your retirement as a Carolina Panthers if he has more games like last night and Carolina doesn't make the playoffs Panthers will be crazy to get him. I can't give them a contract, you let them play out the remainder of this deal and then at 32 years old. You make the call on whether you extend him and if the answer is no. He'll go somewhere else. At age 32. At that point Carolina will the understanding will be that he is the greatest Carolina Panthers of all time. To answer your second question, I'm sticking with my prediction after one week. Okay, got beat by doing the patriots can't tell me they were there and they weren't slightly distracted by the fact that Antonio Brown was playing for doing one after the vehemently were against even discussing the idea of trading their signature players to one of their biggest rivals. It's one game.

Remember Tampa Bay went into New Orleans in last year's opener and wiped the floor with the saints and you could argue that the saints were the best team in the NFC for two or three months after that not losing a game for 10 or 11 in a row so I'm not to overreact to one week with the Steelers. However, this Michael because it sounds like your ravens fan. I'm to be in Baltimore this weekend to catch VCU and maybe tomorrow I'm getting go see Lamar Jackson in person for the first time since he was in college I I'm fascinated to see if he can follow what he did in week one and week two and put up big numbers against the Cardinals. The Cardinals are Carolina's next opponent. By the way, who they'll face in Phoenix in 10 days, nine days now. Danny is in Winston-Salem.

Danny, what did you want to talk about in regards to cam Newton's performance. Thank you. What year the voluntary, thank you so much appreciate that.

I love how he starts the call. I said I actually think you do a pretty good job as if you don't expect name is the energy to visit dad is telling you something before you get on the lie.

I actually think you do a pretty good job.

Is that a backhanded compliment. I don't think the issue is reading the field. Cam Newton.

I think the issue is the big difference between him and pocket pastors heat. He just doesn't finish the problem. He doesn't. He's not an accurate passer. How many times could you Probably do multiple hand in order to count how many times did he make the right decision and throwing to an open receiver and just missed them either was behind or too far ahead cam he's reading the field well. He's reading his keys going to progressions is just missing from now. There are just bonehead mistakes in their they got bailed out on an interception. It was the right call defensive holding a DJ more but the guy was holding DJ Moore was the one that picked off the past. He didn't see the linebacker. Underneath, he got bailed out on that call.

So there are bonehead mistakes in their but there are more instances where he's picking the right guy in their open just not getting it where it needs to answer question at least 10 times out.

Imagine I was 50 attempt we had the least of for those where if I keep these. It's almost like he's trying to work on the new mechanics with throwing arm because he is throwing it differently than he used to. But that's really hard to do when you're doing it while you're jumping in midair not stepping up in the pocket or doing it flat-footed, like you that sometimes it's almost like he's throwing it with his upper body again is not using his legs and that's making them drive the ball really far or not far enough and it's like controlling up a firehose.

It's not as arm strength, so there he was at the ball last night. It's not as arm strength.

He was meeting Tampa over the top. A handful of times. The first one I already saw the people in this.

This is the bane of my existence. This is the hell, sometimes sports media is cam Newton hits Curtis Samuel down the left sideline for a pass over 40 yards and one of the first things I won't say the media member said it. It was under. It was a person who personally turn around he was running backwards to stop its true breeze and gain the whole point on this game know about that but they lost in all the warts are showing the make it's not as arm strength.

It's not his focus. It sure as hell not as outfits amazed by this way since 2011. How are we still talking about the outfit like people much like men in black. You know how they had just zap your memory like you been forgetting this guys been doing it for years after losses.

I mean, the trip chronicles it better think forever. It's pretty tame and then you would think that somebody that can just kick someone's child outside of the stadium. How is it still something you were talking about Noah.

Drop me more social media interaction than anything else I do in the locker room. They just posted a damn photo of him because I get all the little a little red riding hood references to my twitter mentions the collection plate and stuff like that because of the scarves were anything it draws me. Why are you writing the names where you can enjoy that part like look at these people mad over nothing. Nothing to do with them was in the NFL fan NBA guys they do it.

No one cares well to let everyone know you can't win with that guy. You can't do actually hear from Camden cam he was talking about the idea of losing 200 now that they have lose lost to home games where that is in kind of this instant reaction to Garrison we hear well here is my goal did not affect you know walking off will come off the field in terms of Darrell to some extent fans were booing and I see people crossing the fan don't boo your team. I'm sorry fans are short. During the stance you paid tickets you no likelier see below one. I don't care these guys big enough that fans could do whatever they want in the stance other than yell racial epitaphs rather than throw things at them and actually commit crimes booing, yelling, I don't care about that stuff some fan bases to get celebrated for booing Billy comes the mine, like they threw snowballs at 10 o'clock snowballs at Santa be cheered as Michael Irvin's career ended on the field right now. Not a big fan of that cheery injury but if your teams playing poorly. Matt Brown said it best when North Carolina got booted points and I love that.

That means that care. I love that.

That means they care there into the game. That's not a bad thing. Let's give them something to cheer about. Now don't blame the fans for Boeing. One superquick thing because it it's been all, you know, doom and gloom for Panther fans. There is a silver lining.

This depends a business with been here before a glassing to start going to his 2013. They want to wanting to restart and he rolled off eight straight wins in a finish 12 and 41 Manistee South is not over the saints.

I know they were going to but still 110 games in a row and look at the schedule. It's not murderers row it's Arizona but then again if Tampa Bay's not a gimme at home on a short week there are any jimmies but it's not like the Jets.

The Jets have Cleveland without Sam Donald on Monday night. Then they have to go to New England and you get a bye week and then it gets easier right to go to Philadelphia then your home to the Cowboys you got knowing what to get, that's not what they said that Arizona used the Houston games are used against you.

To be tough on the road but then it's the Jaguars and likely Gardner Minshew coming into your building and then it's the Buccaneers again to get another crack at it. There's a good chance you very well could be three and three if you go three and one over the next four days. That could happen and then all of a sudden the Panther fans are back on the bandwagon as the painters are going on the road to face San Francisco just how egregious was that fourth-down call Dell will discuss with award-winning calamus Is going on with Josh Graham, 620 and the Raleigh news and Observer late night last night.

Panthers years and we have an early kickoff today. 6 o'clock North Carolina Wake Forest setting up a very big weekend even though there's not a lot of appealing games in college football. Luke it's good to have you back on the program. How are you man I'm good government so last night. The biggest question I think those around cam Newton when you consider this a somebody to coaching staff says is completely healthy, even though he hasn't been running it like we've seen in the past, but what you think would be a worse scenario for Carolina that the coaches are telling the truth and camper forms that way or that cam is dealing with injuries that could inhibit Panthers from getting to where they want to go by seasons and I honestly think they're probably pretty clear at this point that can be up. I think the question is accumulated wear and tear on body or are you think that could potential heal and I and I don't know that anyone I think the one thing we do know, based on the way the other quarterbacks played in the preseason is best option.

I have wheeling the half got a quarterback out there and letting him do his thing because you're the younger guys are how Matthew works so you know that this is not an ideal situation. I think they're doing themselves a by not acknowledging that there's an issue here. As I wrote in the online last night, paper and looking out the one hand, but the only person being honest about cam Newton held everyone else is either dodging the question or you know Rivera thing in the foot not the problem.

You know it. Clearly something is wrong. You don't have to be up a football expert breaking down film the look I got carried the ball 100 times. Important work situation not getting that call with the game on the line and it know. The question is this an acute thing where it might yield or is just cam Newton at this point, a career, he can no longer do the things you want. So I take it you didn't like the fourth-down call back. The idea that they thought it would work and if cam Newton isn't healthy and obviously one of the times they had designated to find one for me yelling so maybe you're a little more reticent to give him the ball. There at the anything you would be otherwise.

Now you got my next 2 yards rushing on point clearly not operating at a level that you would expect from him in democracy now putting the ball in Christian McCaffrey can on an outside one with trickery and gimmicks in a direct snap that that might be putting a few too many toppings on the pizza. Sometimes simplicity is the way to go. Cam Newton can't do it that you are scrambling to find other options other way to make the talk with us. Award-winning columnist for the Raleigh news and Observer regions.

I read his stuff in the Observer and it news and Observer.com he's on Twitter at Luke Taconic so looking at tonight's game. Wake Forest, North Carolina. When I examine this. I see 2210 teams in North Carolina's getting more top 25 votes than weight because they played power five opponents in the first two, but is Wake Forest are favored by 2 1/2 points here is this a game. Wake Forest should win should I think the big difference between the team with a big difference for Carolina between the first two games of team that you and you can going to be impeccably coached.

Even deacons are not going to beat themselves play games like the before you. They have their own quarterback.

They believe in that.

I think it any different for you and feed it actually happened to win the game as opposed yet. Maybe getting a break or two from the other team errors or or incompetence or coaching with whatever you know there were something that played into their hand will credit the tutorial they took advantage that I, that's part that's a big part of the battle, but you have to generate the victory more more than they did not wake it clearly it can't pick on the shoulder.

There is a team that veteran experience have a quarterback make plays have playmakers big physical running back you know a different kind of defense that Sam howled into the lot that we like about this matchup and end more than anything a chance that they know your you and the flavor of the month that you are no and I wake up And what you know were doing this to and and we can weaken know we can have our time in the spotlight. Dave Clawson told us earlier in the week he wants this to be a game that's played every year like it used to be, but with 14 teams in the ACC now and the division set up much like with NC State and Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest don't play about every six years on the ACC rotation Dave Clawson said that they plan to schedule more nonconference games of North Carolina if they're willing to play each other if and unless something gets fixed. John Curry was with us on the shelf. He's in favor of having a nine-game ACC schedule.

Is there anything that can be done short of the ACC expanded the nine games to rectify this and have a format that allows for Wake Forest in North Carolina to play more often.

Yeah, I'm either a couple ways you can do it nine-game one and and and their way an FEC interstate at all and every year you know quantum point South Carolina Georgia Tech when Georgia date don't want to have another power five game on the schedule they want to have that ability because they're going to play 80 going to claim that you never hear and are going to play Notre Dame or every other year with the way things work out.

They want to retain the flexibility of an aching conference schedule D. If, on the ACC better for everyone to play nine-game. One way to do it. You have you direct to permanent partners like you do in basketball or with two rotating non-partner to the point you'll see everyone more frequently. Not good for the league that teams like Dayton you and you and team weight not playing each other.

We can talk all we want about you know the footprint and all that.

But the reality is, will care about game that matter and basketball been able to preserve that you go back to the original 14 team basketball schedule you and North Carolina were only play one year which which you crazy like because you North Carolina and Duke were permanent partners in weekly. That didn't. Fortunately, that didn't make it off of paper that was quickly adjusted but you know the game that people care about the thinking that maybe a few feet and you get caught up in this sort of print BD stop.

You've got to preserve the rivalry that matter and that you would done a better job at all your games and football. Dave Dave wanted to go. Now you want to division which have the same effect if you had, or some other format for scheduling other ways to do that.

That would allow you to have games like this more often and I'm actually kind of pride that the ACC hadn't looked at the options more thoroughly and if I don't mean the conference office like it's not like pointing to Greensboro but you don't. The league collectively as a whole. You don't have to type a cathode left and state and Duke and UNC weight shouldn't have to be using a nonconference game to play each other and necking for, this isn't the way they threw it up at night, followed look on Twitter at Luke to talk.

I take it you're going to be obedient to feel the night. I am here now and beautiful evening at 6 PM start which is refreshing after last night, late night shenanigan fell open. We get a clear skies and a good game. Note no lightning delays with, so for that. Thanks for doing yet they shot and looking out the window right now, things look good I think to hang out and stands for tonight's game. I've never been in the stands at BB&T Field before.

Believe it or not. When I was a student at East Carolina all four years I was there. I never tailgated. I never watched a game from the stands either was always work always impress boxes and doing things of that sort. So to fix that problem in back to back days now I'm to be going to Annapolis for East Carolina Navy and him to watch that game from the stance and onto the tailgate like a pirate hanging out in the stands with the rest of us to be down there with us peasants.

I thought what I'm saying there's there's nothing there's nothing luxurious really about the pressbox other than the fact that you get like softserve ice cream that's some pretty luxurious to me that Flixster is that your idea of lecturing over the park is a park but is also work. Waiting. Waiting an hour and half the cam Newton not the most fun thing to do. Like evens out. Vicki sprinkles. There are no sprinkler system softserve ice cream machine that is observable in some photo insert certain letter that would be luxury. This is not lecture its work more. This ice cream like it. Also, you get to drink beer in the pressbox know know all there yelling cheer and blow in the pressbox impression of what it sounds like when there's a touchdown scored it in the pressbox ready for this touchdown, Panthers, oh I know I'm about to go see a pressbox about now. The big interception a big play on defense, the ever audible gasp like the pressbox member summit like wall and came through that courtesy will pass that first one lost a fumble right in front of me. Tampa Bay media six or seven said to the guy next to Matt in the Tampa media did play-by-play excitement usually is them fumbling the ball not right.

Yeah James the same thing with Tampa throws tax 1212 pounds go no and another one so I'm excited for this watch a game in the stands at BB&T Field and also the tailgate like a pirate tomorrow and Marilyn to flying up Saturday mornings and you're staying in Baltimore for the weekend. Ravens and through Sunday flying back Sunday night or Monday Mondays are one back Monday.

Darren got to be hosting the drive on Monday during school.

He's fine I'll be here will make sure he's okay will keep them around, the Y tonight is the biggest game for Wake Forest biggest home game probably of the Dave Clawson era is the sports of your on the drive