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This is dry when Josh Graham drive to support is draft day to you and yours tonight if you like a throwback, because I believe Dave Gettleman is going to decide who the Panthers taken the first round. If he takes Simmons Carolina will happily settle for Derek Brown at number seven.

If he goes hog Molly instead. The Panthers they're gonna race. I don't know to unmute their resume chat to take the Clemson type, fun fact for you in the 25 year history of the franchise. Carolina has never selected a tiger in the first round guns and I I think that streak ends the night and I'll go a step further. Isaiah Simmons.

He's the best case scenario for the Panthers tonight.

I put it out on the pole earlier today at Josh Graham radio trying to get a feel from Panthers fans what they want at number seven what they view to be the dream scenario and I listed Brown Simmons to and in other category hundred votes on this 40% say Simmons and that is the front runner their second would be to them other than Derek Brown.

So it seems like most people agree with me here. Here's my philosophy when you're drafting in the top 10 you pick best player available. The only exception to that rule is when you need a quarterback. Carolina they needed a quarterback in 2011 had the number one pick. They pick cam Newton was the best players available that year when you could go down the list some of the guys who were there just thoughts and Kami turned out great for Carolina. It was the right pet but with the exception of quarterback you do not reach in the top 10. Carolina does not need a quarterback. I think Marty Hardy understands this.

Look at the pixies made as Panthers GM when he's in the top 10.

He's made for top 10 picks those players Julius peppers Jordan Gross cam Newton Luke equally. I'd say that's pretty good batting average chemically. By the way I think is a telling pick because it's just like the scenario Carolinas and right now a lot of people on social media. They believe Carolina wants Brown because they saw a photo of her knee at the Auburn pro day just gazing lovingly into the eyes of this hulking defensive lineman. It seemed like a lot of fair find someone who looks at you the way that her knee was looking at Brown and that image but do you know what I remember, circa 2012, Hurley was at the Tar Heel pro day watching the defensive one by the name of Quentin Coble. He was the guy was going to stop the run top 15 pick Carolina hey this guy might be the next Julius peppers coming from the Tar Heel football program. Carolina has a big need on the defensive line.

Julius peppers is in here anymore. They hadn't drafted Starla to lie at that point Shirley Carolinas not to go linebacker.

When they already have TD and John Beeson, that wouldn't make much sense what it number nine. A select Boston College middle linebacker Luke equally. There's no question that was the right pick they went best player available over drafting need. Isaiah 7 he is the perfect fit for Matt rule as well so I think of rule had his choice. He probably said I want Simmons I think her knee understand you need to go best player available at in terms of players I know to be better than Simmons in this draft. I think it's a short list. I think it's Borough because he is just so solid and the position that he plays its chase young and maybe it's Jeff Okuda. Maybe I think that's razor thin. The margin between the Ohio State corner and Senate.

Simmons is a perfect fit for rule because he fills multiple voids. He said it himself yesterday. If you draft a mere drafting. The guy who's essentially weighing three different positions for your drafting three players rules all about versatility. I'm a little biased because I've seen Simmons in person.

I've seen how dominant it can be. I stood next to him on the side like this guy. He's a freak I'm not to say physical specimen because that would be something you could hear tonight the check off of the NFL draft bingo board I put together but the player that most fits the category physical freak. It Senate. I haven't seen anybody like that in person. My career covering football since today be on cloud the guys a monster and he can rush the passer and need for Carolina he could cover passes as a linebacker, which is something Carolina needs because Luke equally is one of the best we've ever seen. Do it at that position.

He just retired. They need Simmons you can plug them in right now he's guaranteed to be something it's not going to be a bust. Wesley we've seen this movie before, haven't we. I'm not just talking about what happened with Keithley in 2012 the Panthers that a top 15 pick in 2005 and it turned out to be Thomas Davis. Remember when her knee drafted Davis. He was a safety he was one of those tweeters is going to be a linebacker in the NFL because he is not fast enough to play safety or is he gonna grow into that spot, cut some white of course he ended up playing outside linebacker. He did so beautifully. He's good to be a future Hall of honor inducting. He's one of the greatest ambassadors ever in Panthers football. We love TD so I think hernia seen enough to know Simmons is the right guy.

He's the best case scenario for Carolina to tweak the show at sports of dryad 336-777-1600 is the phone number. It is a little concerning to see a national route, a writer I respect a lot Charles Robinson from Yahoo sports senior NFL writer tweak this out earlier today.

The tweak Panthers are a little bit of a mystery inside the top seven. I doubt anyone is 100% certain who is making the pick or how the new regime is finding a consensus so there's been a lot of unknowns the organization and how it operated since the end of the season has been confusing.

That brings up this question that I want to ask Joe person who discloses anybody is in the media has been in the media for the last decade beat writer for the athletic. He's joining us at 530. If there are conflicting voices on that conference call tonight whose voice weighs heavy us.

I don't think Tapper is going to be the guy to say I want this person. It's really rule or hurting whose voice is going to be louder and carry the most weight. While I spent all this time talking about hurting and I believe he's going to see Simmons to be the right pick. I think the most important person in that room is Matt rule. That's why I made sure to talk about him being the perfect fit the best fit out of anybody for Carolina fitting what rule wants to do battle. He's can have the final say because he's the one that has the most job security okay or if you talking about football or any business in life. The person who has the most power is going to have the final word and usually it's the one that's been given the most assurance by the one at the top.

Whoever's sitting at the very top. Matt rule was just given a seven year contract direct commitment from David Tapp. Meanwhile, her knee, he only has one year left on his deal.

He's a general manager that wasn't hired by Tepper. He's been a carryover Them around. We didn't know if he was gonna be the second in command will football CLO the day that Rivera was let go.

But it turns out through the draft. Tepper is really valued her knee's opinion on college evaluations, but all we've heard all along everybody is on the same wavelength when it comes to evaluation reporting is saying otherwise. So if it comes down to rule wants one guy heard he wants another. I think rules gonna win out because he's been given more assurances and more commitment from Tapper rule. He also has a better read on this class. I think of college players than her knee does he coach some of them. He's faced many album he's recruited even more of them. Joe Brady was on his staff. He coached many of these LSU guys faced a lot of the SEC ton of SEC guys expected to go in the first round Eric Brown. He upended LSU quite a bit last year very good game that was played. Of course faced Alabama sold to us all, Jerry, Judy, Saul, Henry rocks Saul Dedrick Wells. I think the coaching staffs can be leaned on here looking very had a great draft last year because he came from college to the NFL. Yet a better understanding more contacts in the college game.

I'd be stunned. For that reason, if it is a quarterback taken by Carolina.

I don't care if Tula or Herbert falls if either of them did.

I think that's the best case scenario for Carolina the trade back.

It's funny when people say you want to trade back in the draft. There always thinking that there is a team that wants to give up something in order to get to their spot. Usually when that happens, there is a very valuable commodity, a commodity that's available.

I think Carolina is already given commitment from the coaching staff to Teddy Bridgewater. So if Tula or Herbert Feld number seven. I don't think Carolina would draft them.

I think that's the situation trade back trade back to the New England patriots, but trade back to the Las Vegas rater spot trade back to the Jaguar spot, you name it.

I think that is the scenario Carolina says we are going to trade back because that's where you actually get the value.

Who else would be there. Carolina would not want to draft themselves, but other teams would want to trade up in order to take maybe Jeff Okuda Carolina doesn't go quarter which they need. By the way, maybe they could trade back in that spot, albeit I don't see it. I think there's only four players make it three players I could see Carolina take a good number seven tonight bring. I think it's Simmons, I think it's Brown and I think it's Okuda. I think those are the only three players I could see Carolina taking at number seven.

Nobody else but I will give you my full prediction for the top 10 in tonight's draft. It's our smock draft that's gonna come up in about 15 minutes however and wherever you are listening. We appreciate that you could tweak the show at sports of dryad 336-777-1600 the phone number Robert Walsh.

He's producing today show Aaron Gabriel. He's in the control room as well.my NFL draft bingo board I mentioned a short while ago and if you want to play along. You can find it on my social media at Josh Graham radio. It's also in sports of dryad. We got many different versions of this. So if you want to play along home you got everything from grinder on this to Trevor Lawrence a draft pick. Crying bandwidth being mentioned on the air. Henry rugs 40 time if there's a Mahon's love comparison type or just saying here's a guy pad level high motor Isaiah Simmons someone saying he's three players in one cam Newton hip surgery to Dell getting Buddha Falcons making a trade 49ers making the trade Joe Brady Trent Dilfer a Wunderlich scorpion mentioned to set the B-flat out deceptively fast being mentioned Perot's days at Ohio State. A pet appearing onscreen hacking being mentioned high ceiling intangibles deep, wide receiver draft. Those are the bingo board submissions here even though I like this text football IQ should definitely be on the bingo board. I don't want to make this too easy now were not naming any specific prospects.

There would be the easiest drop forever if I made it all chase young Jeff Okuda.

I think we all know that that draft would get filled up a lot easier for that bingo board will quit out of the office. It's of sports talk as well were back to back to the drive with Josh Graham so since we mostly cover the Carolina Panthers.

We are not doing a mock draft but instead were doing a small draft not picking the full 32 there just can it be too many trades too much madness to drive and protect tried to project 32 pics.

Plus, that would take too much time from being honest.

So I'll go through the top 10. What I things can happen. Trades included the first 10 pics tonight and then after that were to chat with Joe person Panthers beat writer for a long time with the athletic. He's going to join us at 530 since everybody seems to have a small draft.

Josh Graham was a part of the action.

Josh predicts the top 10 of the 2020s we have the draft noise fired up ready to go here.

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The Cincinnati Bengals are going to take Jonesboro yesterday. Reports came out that the already told her always good to be the number one pick. Cincinnati apparently has rebuffed that because they said they want whoever their number one pick whoever they are going to pick their to have their moment where he received the phone call and gets to accept being a Cincinnati Bengals number one, it's good to be borough is the safest pick at quarterback in this draft and he is in Ohio. Number two, the Washington Redskins chase young best overall player in this draft Ron Rivera defensive coach. He loves is the line number three we got a tray it's going to be the Miami Dolphins trading from number five, number three, there are whole lot of conflicting headlines out there a lot of misinformation. That's not new to this draft Miami. Here's what we know they need a quarterback. They've already flirted publicly with the idea of trading the number three. They are the team with the most pics to try and move around to ensure they get what they want their going to move there, regardless and I think they're going to take Justin Herbert, I think it's going to be a mistake. That's not new with the Miami Dolphins. They did it would through breeze passing on him in 2006 in favor of Dante Culpepper history is going to be a real live for Miami there not to take a chance on to us. They're going to go. Justin Herbert, number three, number four, pet New York Giants, trying their damnedest to trade out of the spot to commence Miami or the Chargers. There is a better team. The trade-off for maybe third building calls from Atlanta. I don't know if the Giants want to trade that far back. I think in the end are not confined to trade partners and there just to go with the hog. Molly Dave Gettleman loves his guys in the trenches. Kristin worse is the best offense of lineman available and it addresses the Giants front. It protects the investment they made last year thinking Daniel Jones number six I got a protectable interest in worst first Lyman off the board.

Number four number five. It is the Detroit Lions.

They go ahead and take Jeff Okuda. He is outside of referral outside of chase young, probably the third safest where available third best overall right there with Isaiah Simmons alliance and then it in the end they need to pick up a corner and Okuda. He's a sure thing. So I think they go with the corner over a D alignment number six if the LA charger until he finds his home, and I think to. He's probably not to be ready to play this year off season programs there canceled. You can't really get to know your offense of coordinator your wide receivers. OTA's very valuable to rookies to also coming back from the injury. You don't want to rush it. I think the coaches are honest when they say Taira Taylor is the guy right now they are grooming a young quarterback the same way Cleveland groomed baker may feel where it was Taylor initially and then Baker came on after the fact till it just makes too much text.

They picked up Craig Turner in the tray with Russell Okun assured up right guard and then picked up Brian Bilotta, the Packers right tackle. Why would they leave left tackle at something unaddressed versus sure he got the right side of the line. Maybe it's because they have a left-handed quarterback and that is the blind side for a left-hander to order the charges it makes too much that support much sense to go with him at number six. Yeah, I really deserve that there LA you need to have stars because right now you're not even the second most popular team in Los Angeles. It's the Rams USC football and then it's the LA charges. Maybe that changes influence their Carolina Panthers. They are now on the clock and the pics going to be Isaiah Simmons. I think Matt rule and I think Marty early they can be in agreement on this my philosophies this when you're drafting in the top 10 you go best player available. Simmons is that is the perfect fit for Matt rule's defense we seen this movie before with Thomas Davis played safety out of Georgia ended up in an outside linebacker.

It is good to be inducted into the Panthers pole of honor. One day he will be the first Clemson Tiger and Pampers history to go in the first round. I think Simmons is the guy for Carolina number eight.

If the Arizona Cardinals Derek Brown is still on the board.

In this circumstance, but I think they protect Tyler Marie.

I think they go with all offensive tackle Andrew Thomas.

He's my favorite tackle in this draft works is probably the most talented, the most athletic Thomas fees.

A four-year starter in the SEC started as a freshman I think they protect Marie needs time to throw to Fitzgerald and DeAndre Hopkins they go offense they go Thomas number eight number nine. The Jacksonville Jaguars will they trade out of the spot. I don't think they have another first-round pick a little bit later on. I think they go CD lamp lambs.

My favorite player wide receiver. I love this guy. Best wide receivers come out since I'd say Julio Jones. He's complete if he could do a lot of things. Also I think the jags recent history drafting a Lincoln Riley wide receiver from Oklahoma paid off duty Westbrook pretty good year last year for Jacksonville. They go with CD lamp and the last pick in my smart draft number 10.

It is the Cleveland Browns on the clock.

They go Shedrick will one of the few changes I have in my top 10 year is that McKay Becton falls outside the top 10 and that's for a couple reasons you got a look. He's an owner. When you make a pick and while maybe the teams knew about his negative drug – during the combine. I think that something that just came to the to the attention of many fans to the owners. I think that hurts a bit. Also there's some reports out there about his knee as well not be in great when there's a very small margin between the tackles that can really knock you back. So I think they go with the Alabama right tackle Shedrick Wilsey has this big bill and there to protect Baker Mayfield upfront is my top 10 facts in my smart draft will talk to Joe person Pampers be writer from the athletic Carolinas in a little over five minutes for those who don't know we made a bet about a month ago that if the Panthers stay at number seven and don't pick Simmons Brown or Kimball. I will cut my hair into a mullet when it is safe to do so and barbershops and such open backup and all dress like Joe exotic for a week. I think there's only one player. Carolina could draft at seven to make me do this and it's Okuda. If that happens, I will happily cut my hair to look like a coot. I think it would be a good pick. I want to argue with the pack.

I want to be that surprised if Carolina went that route. I think it's the only hope there's an outside chance for Herbert. Remember Ernie he flew all the way across to Eugene to see him that matters. I would just be surprised if it happens if Herbert's there, and neither Okuda nor Simmons were on the board that might be a spot were Carolina draft back or trade back. Excuse me. I think the same case for two if there's a quarterback on the board.

That's a spot were Carolina when it mine trading back and you hope that Kinlaw still available a little bit later on I think they do the same thing at Derek Brown was available if Okuda is off the board.

If Simmons is off the board and there is either to or Herbert and Derek Brown.

I don't think Carolina goes ahead and takes Brown.

I think they trade back to get the offer, even if it means missing out on the Auburn defensive tackle. But these are some of the things I want to discuss with Joe because he knows the parties better than I do. I cover the Panthers but Joe covers him a lot closer and he's been covering the team a lot longer so I'm interested. Derek Brown Jeff Okuda Isaiah Simmons.

How do the Panthers rank those three in order in terms of best player available on their big Joe will give us his insight next on the drive, you could try getting your sports news and talk somewhere else. My life sucks already that your best to leave it right here on the drive with Josh Graham talking the Panthers be writer Joe person in just a few minutes excited about the NFL draft tonight.

In fact we get the Joe I have a couple of bold predictions for later on tonight. I don't do a lot of bold predictions, but I have a few here that I think possibly could happen later on and I think my smart draft might've given away a few of these here and it starts with. I think Derek Brown is going to fall outside the top 10. Later on I just don't think if Carolina passes on him at seven Arizona I think is going to want to protect the quarterback. I think the jags are thinking all things Cleveland the same way that they wanted to protect their investment in Baker and give him enough time to utilize this these receivers they've paid so much for in Jarvis and Odell. So I think if Carolina passes which I expect them to.

If Simmons or Okuda or available if Brown drops past Carolina spec he's not going to go in the top 10. So that's my first bold prediction. Secondly, I've been trumpeting this one all week long.

New England is good to take a quarterback in the first round there.

Not that I have enough to take two in the top five so I think what is is going to go to the Chargers at number six. Herbert is a Miami Dolphins in my projection here, but Jordan love he strikes me as somebody if these put into the right situation. He can have a lot of success. He was great in his sophomore season at Utah State.

He was surrounded by a really good coaching staff.

Matt Wells and many of those coaches went to Texas Tech after Cliff Kingsbury lost his job in the big 12 was replaced by Gary Anderson and it wasn't really as good of a spot that was is much surrounding love and that's why there was a down year. If you will, in the way that he performed. I think love still has a lot of really good traits and if there fostered in the right environment and the right culture, if you will outlaw the patriot system with Josh McDaniel. Still, there is the OC bill Bella check. I think that is enough to think.

Love will have success. I love to. I love Borough but I think of love is a patriot.

That's that's the best quarterback situation, regardless of what happens anywhere else so that something to keep an eye on there and also there's a relationship.

New England, they of course sent Jimmy garrotte below to San Francisco a few years back for a second round pick, reportedly, Tom Brady was in conversation with San Francisco about going there.

So there's always been this is weird connection between New England and San Fran Sam Fran know for second round third rounder fourth round picks so that might be a spot to keep an eye on New England potentially moving up if they want to go after a quarterback.

When LB enjoyed by Joe person. My buddy from the athletic Carolinas. Nobody is close to the Panthers as an independent journalist the last 10 years. Joe so were few hours out from the draft rank. These three players and how high you believe they are on the Panthers board.

Derek Brown, Jeff Okuda Isaiah Simmons will go toward accrued outworn Bernard 100 why Okuda at the very top. You and I know lately who are the last greater report the required credentials, but here they complete corner. It feels to me like the chronic. You can work in that that lot previously granted.

You're starting your starting corner five years that he started yelling beyond the I don't know that it will be available most of the Maxon he's been going on so I had a discussion much more Brown versus which, in the heart decision in your throat, accrued in their you know I think that I think the fun party early in my room.

This is something that's been discussed a lot today.

Charles Robinson, he had to tweet NFL reporter for Yahoo sports that there's some confusion who the decision-maker in Carolina is obviously David Tepper. It's the last call in so many things, but I doubt he somebody who would overrule someone like Ernie, or even that rule if they really wanted somebody in their evaluation but if rule wanted somebody and Kearney wanted another who do you believe does get the final call David brilliant box order .3 billion. Whatever workout clothes if he follows it. Like how close do you think he's looking at all these prospect probably not.

I don't think he felt the court would not hear what the quarantine, but like current last year. I don't think he felt you shake everything that they were considering in the first round. The way Jerry Richardson and Richardson with all that when a Richardson play the game at a high level court. You know what or not NFL championship with the cold right but but I don't mean covers not involved in his own analytical great. You know you would hope not rule you know. I've heard that from around the leak to start the building. Not as much. I don't I don't think it's quite so you no fracture or confusion or chaotic or whatever and maybe folks like to think you you you know GM who was changed from Ron. I get the impression that you know what a large aim to be for the most part, here's what I think if David Tepper does come down to him. He's just in a look at the athletic Carolinas. What Jordan Rodrigue and Joe person are saying the Panthers should take it seven when ethics happen that I think David Tepper's doing that I think is just looking at it. Think I will see what Joe person and Jordan Rodrigue think it's good to be more united now to gone. I forget if I've been on the extraordinary story about how would I not when you have a good or data changes game at your strong suggestion last night you know, timely 20 a lot like what you describe. Yet Ron Erin likes Chris McCaffrey the Gettleman scout will and I have someone researching next week. That happened if Gen X had not taken for net and I was sitting Yahoo break and and I was told and by the way, which was in Chris McCaffrey.

I don't know about the case tonight but working with statement rules influence on me. I don't I don't know that that he went and I think there's been a lot three months of creature discussion this point he's on twitter at Joseph person Rita stuff at the athletic Carolinas, so a lot of people talk about Carolina.

It might be best suited for them to trade back but I've always told those people in order to trade back there has to be somebody available that teams want to trade up for so when you look at scenarios Carolina trading back who's the guy that might be a valuable commodity available Carolinas willing to pass on but trades back in favor of the team that so wants to jump up into the seven spot to go, and I do think you could out now what will really like you know it and and maybe it if ever there was a guy you like you. Seems like every week with another layer of low than what we thought not to be a good player but it may cause to start the night that I think that felt prevented. You now have a couple to tackle start flying off with something that they can look back with the Panthers. Think that Natalie looks straight back and I think you Marty earnings on board with that to I think Marty Kearney isn't going to go back just to go get them when he's not really in love with so that sweet spot, you know back maybe three or four spots and not certainly not going any farther back in like 15 because then you start then you're really just an extra clicker to comment, but potentially traded a big-time impact impact player in the top 10 career guy this guy should start this year. Maybe. Maybe not so interesting but I know that will and a network point this out to Chuck there and play a checkbox on the defensive tackle.

Check the box on the linebacker check the box on the corner. Yet, a couple good fishing like corn or printing that got address because rules and having your you know the luxury of your contract where regardless of that we can build around.

Let's go get those guys and then we'll figure out as we go along because you're probably not looking good until like 2020. Speaking of the best players might be available. Joe person you're with us.

We put out a pull down screen radio on twitter, who's the best case scenario for the Panthers at number seven, and 40% of the poll says Isaiah Simmons, who do you think is the best case dream scenario for Carolina staying put it seven… Probably still united talk to scout and you want to take on the kid and each like a complete core having her in my head lately and kind of a buzz around. I think he's going to be, and probably go a lot higher than people think. I don't know when I took over the way back when the Panthers still had a corner that they got in the first round by the name of Chris Campbell, Chris Campbell was a quiet guy will I will give you went any propyl. He held down the starting spot for the Panthers for nine years and did so, pretty damn high level and I just think like that, you know, maybe not the length is currently and he is a polished cover guy and he told and are those guys who went to Ohio State with single digits numbers like Campbell was number seven. I mean I much of the factors in at all but just figured I'd throw that in there gel. Stay safe at home. Continue the great work with the athletic and enjoy the all virtual NFL draft later on the night you got it but appreciated.that's Joe person on Twitter at Joseph person kind enough to give us some insight and to terrify me because that's a lot of Jeff Okuda phrase oh goodness that's the guy if he falls, that's the guy from endangered. I think Carolina would trade back rather than going quarterback at number seven. I think they would not be out of this Josh exotic that Okuda that's the guy who scares me here, Joe. Just tell me how good he is not to say it's backpack. I'm not but it's it's gonna be a sad day for me and I partly feel like it's going to happen now because I'm the same duty said Aaron couldn't re-create the tray. Joan shot and then here is bank to get off the front of the ironing and re-creating it. I had to have Christmas lights in my car for two weeks in the month of February you will feels like that's gonna happen all over again here. I'm nervous. I'm shook we got to get to the house to do in about 10 minutes so I was mentioning some bold predictions I have for the draft tonight. A few widows I already noted New England to take Jordan Lovett the trigger to trade up the number 13. To do so. Derek Brown is beautiful outside the top 10 because of the Carolinas could end up getting Isaiah Simmons, how's this for a tech let me know if you agree with this one.

Jerry Judy he's not to be the first wide receiver taken off the board. He's not even going to be the second wide receiver taken. I think city lambs get to be a top 10 pack is the best wide receiver.

There and I think in the FL or in any sport. People are trying to re-create what the best teams are doing. That's why they Jordan loves good to be someone that a team trades up for. He's compared to Homes while they're doing it right in Kansas City. They traded up to get that my homes guy will what's trying re-create that one of the guys he throws to his Tyree kill and rugs is a 427 got played in Alabama. We saw how it looked against guys were going to be drafted in the NFL.

Ajay Terrell saw how it looked.

Ajay Terrel we sold the way that it looked against felt that we saw the way it looked to gets Krista Fulton. We saw how it looked. Got gets trade on digs. Henry rugs he's somebody I think a team will snag just because of his speed more than they might take Jerry Judy so that's my last bold prediction Judy not to be taken first among wide receivers not to be taken second is to be the third wide receiver off the board on everything. I agree with you think I could potentially Aaron got really mad because he's where the chief jacket and I compared two players to chase a man I just it sounds good in theory but you know she's perfectly did a whole. Pam homes that just tell you this is how it works right agree.

Culture matters, homes, ended up going to the Houston Texans or to the Chicago Bears. It would've turned out the way it turned out to get what you're under Randy Reed and that stuff matters you love. He's working with Josh McDaniels and Bill Belichick II by that I buy. That is something I can work the rugs thing if you're trying to re-create my retail.

Good luck with that. I'm here to tell you that Judy is a better wide receiver than rocks and city lambs better than both of I just can't wait to see how it all shakes out, because eventually all these rumors get put by the wayside and then we finally see where these teams go, fun fact on rugs to be a fun fact he and his entire college career. He only had 11 catches of a catch going. More than 20 yards downfield. That is the I think there are 13 wide receivers in this draft you have more deep catches than he does.

I think that has a lot more to do with the guys who are next to you. I would agree with that.

I'm just just a fun little nugget share is fun to show the close of the Loch Ness monster got her drunk driving Josh grab Sharon with Darren Vaught from USA baseball on Twitter at Darren Vaught, my NFL draft bingo board in about five minutes or so, but since it is Thursday. Every week we have are throwback Thursday segment and since the Boston red Scott Red Sox got away Scott free. Essentially, yesterday I figured we do we imagine dragons for the Boston Red Sox.

But before we do so very quickly. Darren, what was your biggest take away from the punishment handed down on your beloved Red Sox will I think it fair to ask question.

Comparatively, it seems like they got away with a lot more than the Houston Astros. And it is very possible.

It totally possible that the extent to which they went with the cheating was so much wetter than the escrowed that this is the appropriate punishment, but the question imply to me you're like Alex Cora was only punished according to those handed down by major league baseball for his involvement in the escrowed cheating scandal and the front of this was put on the video.

God had video guy for the Red Sox where it got the escrowed got away with it. So I think it's entirely possible that major league baseball in short wanted a scapegoat wanted to set an example, but didn't want this to linger, so they lessened the punishment and will continue to do so for further team using the Astros that the hay don't mess with all right hopefully we have baseball sometime soon in the next month and 1/2 or so until then every Thursday we will be listing off the imagine dragons for many of your favorite team. Major league baseball Johnny Estrada my top 50 best players. This is the imagine dragons of 2010 yeah were looking for the most memorable guys, not necessarily the best. Here are some guys who don't apply don't think Darren there are a lot of events.

Katie Martinez Elsberry buckle guards Jackie Bradley Adrian Gonzalez Chris sale written for cello Dunstan David Ortiz John Laster John Lackey Jake Peavy that's the extent of the list you disagree with Beckett, Josh Beckett's more of a Nickelback if you wanted to have the designation. I think his time in the 2010's with more with the LA Dodgers and it was the Red Sox microphone and I think he's off limit their preferred picture on my list that I'm going to contend poor cell, no, no, I quite buckle all you know what I'm going to allow it. I will allow them Julian big Red Sox fan right in rock whole. Of course any included a fun fact. You want me to share you the fun fact included hold is the only player to ever hit for the cycle in a World Series game. He was also the loan All-Star in the lost 2015 season for Boston that is accurate rock go play the first name on my list. It's Mr. Jenny Dell will Middlebrooks third baseman Will Middlebrooks has a lot of interesting stories with that, apparently she is the one that was once with NESN who reported on the team and then dated a playwright that is correct. So I got that might as well the first name of rock I've got another one. Excellent Robert you want to take a crack at spelling Jared soft of the Mafia know but when you are naming players that were disqualified from being imagine dragons it just sound like your listing off of fireworks from Joe dirt there for little you give me some of those names from like Boeing are very sale poor cell of Gorski out they got to the door season 01 Bogard please throw in a Daniel Nava on my lip getting a lot of this on social media. A lot of code GUA horror. I know you know I often free closing final out in the World Series about Drew Pomerantz.

I like it is next on your horn capture Ryan Boulevard don't know who that is all right. All right, I got I got a picture I got a picture I want to throw in here okay this might be the best picture I have here Felix to brought all right give me I have time for one more here. Darren give me the best one you have on your board will not guarantee my Natalie someone writes in Johnny Jones. He's a Nickelback well over on my list but I had yeah he's a Nickelback. I remember I was at a game left field seats in Camden yards and somebody was cursing out cones and he gave him the middle finger behind his back like like behind his glove behind his back.

So nobody else could see it, will you bring in Matt. Do you agree with either. Either of these two from Brent on Twitter Matt Albers or Quinton Barry. You're absolutely right that you growing one more really prominent player from the time that I think I'm Melamed Dragon guy came up to Dr. wow sure, that sounds like another fireworks stand name to be some dice again but tell me you know you don't got any boxes that much as I can do markets condone Darren.

It's good to hear from you, man.

Thanks for doing this. Likewise all right that's Darren every week, which grew around talk about baseball. You will hear some great sports talk. Well, here it is dry. Josh Gray went to dental sports whole triad I've said it many times. There's no introduction read clause that will perk the ears of sports fans more than Adams Shafter tweeted fill in the rest of the well. He just posted on Twitter to update were apparently an ESPN reporter spoke with Dr. Thomas Byrd was a hip specialist in Nashville. He was the independent evaluator of two and his medical recheck and Stephanie Bell reports 333 things struck me in my conversation with bird number one is accurate. X-rays looked quote pristine to CAT scan of right hip mirrors his left hip. So both of those seem to be right and number three quote, it looks as good as he's ever seen in the five-month out from a similar injury to this so you knew that there was going to be some information being pushed out here right before the draft.

It always seems to happen and there it is on the to a front. It just seems like to me that the Miami Dolphins or somebody's gonna make a mistake here and pass on the guy for Justin Herber but were now being joined by Adam Golder early afternoon host. I know you been spending a lot of time on the draft as well.

Mistakes happen every single year at the top of the draft when you look at this year. What mistake do you think you could see coming from 100 miles away that might happen in the top 10 the night drafting Herbert at any point at any point. What don't you like the fact that really based on what I and I don't know if you are not good. Day after our like Excel but not a professional evaluator court, but nobody everybody I talked to basically said big are all good athlete. But is really not even Josh Allen was Allen. Probably a reach physical get back on. People are happen every we reach for quarterback quarterback. Here's what I want from draft Justin Herber sure but I think numbers are on my draft Justin Herber will draft a quarterback three years old with the series on Twitter that Eagle fan listen to the uncle Junior to three.

Write your own sports of dry Oak Avenue NFL draft bingo board for people to fill out the night and it includes terms such as ceiling intangibles, grinder high motor is a part of this and deceptively fast. Do you have a favorite draft terminology that an white white right gym rat.

I believe the best term is evil that will be a coach on the field and that delete that same you in your professional opinion, whose more deceptively fast. Joe Burrow or Justin Herber Proctor think quickly that college college which take away from it will allow you to read which is one of the things that you noted that a Baylor quarterback had never been anything that in the net they never have to read a quote read call college often eliminate one side of the field are they will be open. Quarterback in college football. So everybody and here we know this guy get a feel much easier. Accurate with wide-open receipt and that's the thing.

Can you improve accuracy.

The Logan you coach and longtime often grew had older you can only approve, improve accuracy by so much you have it or you don't accurately say quarterback that easily know what mechanics are really good and what mechanics are bad which is too often he is wildly and Roger almost every Erin Rogers Road is exactly work with healthy draft talk drafting. I know there's some people probably thinking, oh Baylor quarterback's never been to.

What about that one season Argie three. Had you mentioned something very important that he wasn't really asked to read defenses. I was talking to somebody about my who was very close to the Redskins that year and apparently about 1300 of the 3100 yards that Argie three had that season. Passing what came from one black where it would be some type of an RPO he'd look right and he would either throw the ball away or he would throw it to somebody on a drag on the right side.

So we wasn't rolling out to the wrong again like 1300. It was started. Of the 3100 yard had was on one play. They were asking him to do a lot and still even then Argie three.

Rent went up to Kyle Shanahan at that time and said hey I want to pick up more.

I want to do more and apparently the response was, you don't know anything Baylor would never know Baylor quarterback under our trial that they were never asked to call a play called for them. They do with the open fever was going to be and if that receiver was an open rock. Essentially what they were told college coaches are not trained quarterback. I got no problem with that. We have to understand a lot of NFL office and go to RPO and more college.what is your you're almost moving away from guys calling play reading quarterback called Whitelock that was but there almost not even have to read defenses anymore. This is what we do. You as you get more and then you can take that next step. We all going to be better quarterback playing the prostyle column he would have to repeat and occasionally change the plant line medical emotionally speaking of Baylor and a little over 30 minutes. I will reveal my final smock grasp that what I have here my final smock draft and the Joe person to join us from the athletic Panthers right around and go but this year on the way out the how concerned should I be tonight I mentioned on your show that I would dress like Joe exotic I cut my hair into a mullet for a week if Carolina doesn't pick Simmons 10 law or who am I forgetting here Derek Brown number seven in the draft they have to remain at seven it has to be one of those three guys how worried should I be going into tonight what route it might, but I don't think Browder can log going required art. Getting there at number seven and it very well could be because we know that recorder back on that. That's almost absolute mortal lock. You know that young and your to start the capital which I take it back will probably show if those three players are all sitting there I was, I would trade back in my hair would be safe as that happened, so that the seven I make sure I got to make sure that I don't look like a fool. 30 sound like when I got to make sure I look okay here you, Adam. We say media enjoy the draft tonight. What broadcaster you can watch to watch game of the final on box for Carolyn. It's not on OL and I have I might 165. I have a good feeling on that Justin Williams got to get on the board.

Later we'll see what happens next.

Doing this, my friend work that is Adam gold early afternoon host noon to three you listen to them right here on dry. I I think there's a clear-cut best option for Carolina number seven. I really do and I'll tell you who that is next on the drive