NSMA Takeover with Dave Goren

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Welcome back to the drive Dave Goren sitting in for Josh Graham on this Monday. That was supposed to be the 61st national sports media Association awards banquet.

See what time is it about 428 would probably be into our sponsor reception by now. When one of the guys would be joining us is joining us on the phone Kevin Harlan of CBS Turner sports and Westwood One Kevin, my friend Gloria were together tonight, there would be a fun time. Not only you and I connected all the other great broadcasters around the country, but to send. I went to Salem and part of this very organization and a wonderful nightfall you must feel like you're part of the sports club triad staff know you run with Josh last week which I will talk with Josh quite frequently we were in John you're going to do a Florida State North Carolina Tar Heel game and saw Josh that in person met him in person at the 2018 convention that you had down there… With… Were not together.

Of course, is a much bigger story going on but hopefully things will be rectified and next year we can all get together again.

David C along a little bit earlier great reporter at the Richmond Times Dispatch and we were playing old man radio. I know you just had a birthday.

Some about six weeks older than you, so went welcome to the sixth the seventh decade wouldn't you and I are both 60. Can you believe that now I can't find close my eyes still feel like about 25 and then I open my way, but will keep looking solenoid will win.

Keep going until they take the microphone away from yes, well, you know, for me was just walking out to get my newspaper every day in the driveway.

It was walking down the front steps in my knee and then then my foot so you just travels right down from head to toe. What you been doing to stay busy during this pandemic. Well a lot of things.

Number one, we were were based in dark, home at various stages of pandemic and quarantining so we been really lucky to spend some extra quality time with family really enjoyed.

We've kind of maneuvered here over the last couple weeks to Wisconsin River small summer place on Lake Michigan. One of the Great Lakes and we've kind of reestablished herself. Here we have a lot of family coming in this weekend and week for 4 July and although parades and things like that of been canceled. It's a chance for us to get together as a family summer looking forward to that. But really wise. We've cleaned a lot of attic space not gone through many different mementos and letters and notes and just different pictures that I've accumulated over the years and try to organize that and in terms of what I'm doing now going over some of my basketball broadcasts from the past 67 months as I get ready to re-ignite for the start of the NBA season. At the same time to ready for the beginning of the NFL season.

You know where you will be for the NBA.

Assuming all this although I think the narrowing in on having this actually in Orlando and perhaps inside the arena, but nothing is said to change the story seems to change every day. So will probably find out 10 days out or so, but there's always the option we could be in Atlanta almost TMT and broadcast from that location in the studio, we could be in the studio in Orlando.

We could be in the arena in Orlando. So clearly there is still a bit murky and I'm not sure they were going to find out anything until we get much closer, but I do know players have begun to congregate in the respective NBA cities as they quarantine and get ready for the team trips down Orlando and set up. Not sure were working to be yet, but will be ready to broadcast if indeed they do get the season restarted. You have much experience with remedies remote test I don't… Never done one before my daughter was with ESPN. She has been a part of a couple and not many but she is been a part of some of those productions and so we talked a little bit about that talk shop. The one thing that I do do, which is kind of in the ballpark is when I record the NBA 2K videogame were looking at clips all the time but they set up studios in our homes, so I've got one actually got to about one or two in Wisconsin. I got one back home in Kansas City and it's very simple padded type of area where I can talk into a headset, drowns out the noise and there's no echo but I watch a lot of video clips on this poster commented when I see these clips so if that is any inkling of what were against. If indeed we are in a studio. I should have. You know, probably kind of a very workmanlike feel flip that will be like. But there's no doubt be different.

We all use the cloud in arenas and stadiums differently. It's like an orchestra in back of the performance and sorted a method orchestra and in the players are committed to. Let me ask you first about the video games.

How many clips per year do you have to voice hundred hundreds and hundreds and trying to be clever and kind of spontaneous is a little bit difficult to do. They also give us on a board on TV monitor topics they want to talk about so that I go with Doris Burke or Chris Weber or Greg Anthony or whoever Aldrich. We have a topic that will talk about Bella conference ascend together and help take segments of our answers and inserted in the game Junior tobacco videogame is so complex and so computer-driven that they can take 10 seconds of a coherent 10 seconds of recording their and 12 seconds here and 11 seconds there somehow kind of minute altogether so that it comes out sounding like were talking about a live play and that there there geniuses there really are and I'm not. I'm not sure how to put together but it has been. I think for quite a few people kind of a nice way to escape, quarantine, and I've gotten many emails and texts from people that I work with whose kids are playing the game endlessly in basements in the room and so it's kind of nice to know that even without basketball people are still able to enjoy the NBA great stars in the league. How long Tony timewise as it takes for you to get through recording all those relevant very day from year to year.

This year's been about $50 so far in very limited hours left because they want to meet a deadline much earlier than the past to release the game but the urban Somersworth tape no.

60 7080 hours and pretty tedious. It's a pretty tedious task to be quite honest, it's by yourself. You gotta conjure up a lot of emotion that that is usually fueled by saying something with the naked eye or by the crowd arena bigger ran so that's a little bit difficult.

It may help me if we do do games from a studio at the upcoming restarted the league, but you know I've Found some ways to engage immerse myself lose myself in the task at hand and and it's it's it's probably as lifelike I guess is you could possibly make it by doing a game off of quickly watching on a monitor in the studio case of got up during Wisconsin walking closet and the that is canonized to stay connected to the game and that way. Interesting look behind the behind the curtain there. Thank you for that. We we we actually rented a little educational seminar last Thursday using seminar and an SMA on remote producer, a play-by-play person and an analyst and I forget which one said when you're in front of that big monitor. You will have no trouble conjuring up that emotion that you will have it if you were there at her at a real event so hopefully that will work for you, too, especially with the experience doing the games will I think it's going to be interesting. I've I've heard with baseball restarting and rather quote by Gary calling who does the maps that they will do every game home and away from the broadcast booth at at at the stadium was called Citibank. I'm not sure I forget. I lose track of all the different sponsor names wherever the Mets play right near LaGuardia airport is there, even when the team might be done Landau in Los Angeles or in St. Louis to do their television broadcast off monitors. But from that format broadcast position. So I guess to help him feel like the kind of in the moment, in the space where they normally might be ongoing same stadium home stadium atmosphere, but it does give, I think you know what a chance to look inside the complex way of doing it will be others that will be in studio in all the games from their. I understand that NBA broadcasters will be no certainly not traveling at all and back in their studios and their hometown facilities so it's going to be a different a different world. I think NFL announcers in college football announcers. From what I've heard one of the more popular and more relevant ideas floating around is that you would notice it on the on the demon deacon broadcast but I guess Lisa play-by-play and an analyst will be at the stadium at home and then they're not given no I guess be allowed to travel and so at least some programs pro and college are gonna broadcast teams behind and then for NFL preseason. If there is indeed a preseason going to have the home broadcast crew broadcast for both their own network so when I'm doing the Green Bay Packers will do the Packer network MNF replaced the Houston Texans. We would do their network as well. The two different preseason networks and just take one broadcast over stepping into whether on radio or TV in both challenging but I think the best broadcasters, Deputy pretty easily and readily and I will look forward to the challenge. You may have overlap between the seasons correct. Yes, unfortunately my my NBA season extended that my may have to miss some NFL games. That's not the plan right now the plan is to somehow back and forth. But if we are indeed put in Orlando.

It's going to be a situation where we probably would not be able to leave for for a minimum of a couple weeks that we believe we have three quarantine and then go through protocol once again to reestablish ourselves within that bubble. So there's a lot of logistics here which are not to be very easy but I'm one of several broadcasters. TMT has multiple sports and a couple of us do.

The NBA thorough duties and and I and the Eagle and myself all do NFL and Brian Anderson is major-league baseball so so all four of us are going to have. I think some significant significant challenges in terms traveling. I will coordinate with other contracts that we have it, it gets a little messy and what is your confidence level in the sale will be played maybe think about people. The only thing I can I can think of. And again I I've got no more information than you were or anybody that your listening audience that reads the stories and keeps up on the latest I would our details and developments, but I think that if there is indeed a pretty secure bubble in Orlando that they may have less of a spread of the virus as opposed to football because, at least in the NFL. There is no talk right now of putting these individual teams in a bubble in their hometown and you're going to have 80+ players and training camp going different directions and then when you get on your 5356 man roster you're going to have again players that are not with the team under a watchful eye 24 seven to be around her family to be going out to dinner. I mean II don't know how bedspread is going to stop in pro football.

It seems to me to be a gargantuan task to try to stop at the NBA will be more in control, but the players Association and schedule. I got 15 players per roster and only 22 of the three teams are to be down there you can have a little bit more control and surely there will be some spread but I think it will be muted to a degree which the NFL cannot really bank on right now and in the NFL. Just by virtue of the way the game is played where you are up against. You know other bodies in tackling and blocking and all that aside, I just don't know how you're going to stop the spread.

There has been some talk that football both college and pro and I just high school. We've gotten that far down the line. Jim can I and I know underdevelopment right now they are developing masks in addition to your facemask on your helmet.

There would be perhaps I should feel that you can wear with a mask that you perhaps have in the lining of the facemask of the helmet to somehow spread or limit you know the water droplet to talk about, but it's it's going to be a massive chore and these are details which have not yet emerged. The NFL has the benefit of waiting a couple months till they start the benefit of watching hockey and baseball and basketball try to restart but it can be difficult. There is no doubt about absolutely will Kevin best of luck to the most important thing obviously is to stay healthy. Let's get a vaccine as soon as we can see you here in Winston-Salem next June.

Appreciate the time is always gave appreciate what you do for a nation which has so many members coast-to-coast young and old alike big name in beginner and and because of the guidance of you and others on your staff in the terrific sponsors we have in Winston-Salem around that region which make that organization possible the wonderful night that we celebrate the business possible.

And believe me, I speak for all the members you have under your umbrella. We can't wait to get back there see you and be a part of a very wonderful experience. Think you have me on to kill yourself to look for the next time we chat.

Thanks again appreciate its Kevin Harlan, our national sportscaster of the year actually to time national sportscaster the year joining us from Wisconsin. Then come up after the break will be joined by the voice of the Carolina hurricanes John Foresman was now a two time winner of the North Carolina sportscaster of the year.

Stick with us, talk some hockey with John right after this, David, Glenn, DG, how are you this afternoon, all doing great DG are you good sound like an echo GED all the cool sports guys run.

You know, Gaudio took Dino got other. There were few there what's new with you a lot of new. I'm still writing, still talking to a lot of folks about rebooting the radio show post pandemic. But in the meantime, I'm not really enjoyed Dave the first great extended break beside like a little family vacation since I figured out 1991 while so the 30 year bonds all grind that was a lot of fun. But yeah, family times health related time just time with friends can't play golf. Nice nice recharge the batteries time given the struggles that a lot of other people are having right now I have nothing to complain about as much as I hate the fact that my younger son sleeps till about 1230 every day. If he's not working in my older son till about three. It's been great having them home for a few months after my older son went back he was on a voluntary three month furlough from Delta Airlines, but he will start back July 1 see if he's already gone back to the triangle could have the family there.

My wife and I were doing dual RR dual jobs she was teaching kindergarten from the kitchen while I was doing my job in the dining room that was. It was interesting if we were on any kind of conference calls.

As you might imagine, but you know it's that family time. Don't take it for granted. Once you have, what the lovely and counted Maria as I call my wife. I seriously have watched more Netflix together in the last three months, then I'm not kidding.

Like the rest of our lives combined together.

I get I guess Netflix have existed for 25 years, but she and I have been together for 25 years so that I can also identified by the way, with the rest of the family dynamic to describe because I have a 20-year-old son is ready for you and a 17-year-old daughter. He's headed that state and the one reason I don't make much noise when they sleep until noon. As you mentioned, with yours. They have some days were there getting up to work at 6:30 AM the you put in those rough days of work getting up at the crack of dawn you can sleep until noon on the base or not work absolutely absolutely what what are your thoughts on getting back to playing games here couple of our all of our guest. So far we've asked and then there's kind of a very tenuous confidence about getting back to playing some sports more than others. Yeah, the first thing that comes to mind for me. Dave and I think you and I agree that we believe we live and work in a state that's one of the best blends of college and pro sports in the entire country right on. I grew up in Philadelphia worth 95% pro sports and the colleges have to do something spectacular to get in the headlines and you know there might be a state like in Alabama worth 95% college and get only occasional pro sports in North Carolina. We just have the best of both worlds into a great degree and I bring that up because my answer to your question even as none of us is sure what is going to happen as MLB in the NFL and the NBA and NHL are all getting close to the doorstep of returning I see a different dynamic at the professional level. Then at the college level, because for the most part millionaires represented by attorneys negotiating with billionaires represented by attorney through collective bargaining agreement and they can accept whatever levels of risk. They want to accept or not right. It's just that there's no there's no one to feel sorry for in the sense that they are being exploited in some way in professional sports. Not easy decisions, but they get to negotiate however they like at the college level.

It's a lot different. And yes, they get room, board and tuition cost of attendance but they're not represented in collective bargaining agreement. They're not in a union that they don't have the same kind of power structure and that means you know it's it's less of a fair trade if you will. And that's why I'm to be watching really closely, especially the college football return and other fall sports because if we see something tragic.

It can change the narrative for college sports very, very quickly, whereas I think most people will will put up with even some negative no backlash when it comes to pro sports because again it's kind of consenting adults by negotiating with consenting adults corrects what you make of the cam Newton signing with the New England Patriots news today about that right, Bill Belichick seems to be good at finding those who left the benefit of reclamation projects who have something to prove. And we know what we don't know how cans get to be physically we do know that that is going to be one driven young man who wants to build on. You know the empty preseason and other success he had with the Panthers at a time when you know so many people are doubting him and who better to hook up with then one of the greatest coaches in the history of the NFL and the most successful franchise in recent NFL history. So I think a lot of folks were wondering, you know, was cam good have to wait until mid season when other guys got hurt to find the landing place on now.

He has an avenue to a starting job and as long as he's physically able. It won't surprise me at all if he makes Bill Belichick look really smart with this acquisition, I would tend to agree with that.

I think it all depends on his health and of course whether we indeed play football in the fall. Yes.

Have you ever well obvious answer to this is know this pandemic and what it's done. Talk to me little bit about the just the constant having to deal with unknowns, especially on the sports side and and how that deal how that affects people's psyches call think it even one step further. I know I feel it's time I lived the first five decades of my life without what I would call sort of extreme questions extreme uncertainty of better and right now you know our country has a lot going on right, we've got no sports angle, which sounds trivial, but is a big joke for many of us who live or work in that world. We have the pandemic angle, which is a medical threat. We have a very polarizing divisive time politically in our country we have a big election later this year and many people have family divisions related to some of these things are either politically or medically. My mother-in-law's 85 years old and lives alone and just this weekend had basically no person-to-person face-to-face interaction for the first time in four months so your word is is a well taken one psyches know 50 million Americans almost have lost their jobs over the last three or four months. That's that's the psyche issue. Those who are law alone that the psyche issue. Those who are medically at risk that the psyche issue that the politics of the. The hobbies that you have to put off to the side, including sports know all these things factor in one way or another into the psyche and that's why think a whole Lotta therapists are working overtime a lot of psychiatrist psychologist are working overtime to help wines have their phones ringing off the hook. It's just the time that I would hope you know the best person in each of us comes out either to help those who are hurting or to reach out if it's so one of us hurting ourselves very well said not to play amateur psychologist or psychiatrist here, but I think it behooves each and every one of us to at least at the very least have some kind of empathy toward our fellow man. Some of us are fortunate we are still working. I feel empathy for anybody who has lost a job or can't currently work. It's the least I can do and same thing in with with the people who are of a different race and gender, color, religion, then you think about the fact that they were raised different lead may have been raised different differently from you were brought up with a different set of beliefs and you can't expect everybody to believe what you believe because they were raised differently so at least have that kind of way wasn't just sort well you know you and I've been on the same page for quite a while, but you know some folks will say that the all all locker room and sports can be the closest to equal that we get because you have people working toward a common goal. Mostly not caring whether you are rich, poor, black, white to this religion or that this nationality or that you know why well because you have to band together everybody likes to win) you put aside whatever negatives there might be and you just do your best to work toward a common goal and for for various reasons, were not saying as much of that in society as we see in those successful locker rooms, but your point is well taken. Even when it comes to something like wearing a mask tell somebody you don't know who around you might be medically at risk regardless of what of what your feelings might be about the coronavirus. You know, the mask protects others more than to protect yourself and your just do your best to be the better version of yourself by wearing a mask so that hopefully you know the more of us to do that more quickly this stuff gets behind us and the more quickly we can get to our new normal. That's empathy to absolute. Hopefully our new normal will include a David Glenn radio show sometime soon because I miss thank you that you have got a lot of great feedback along those lines, and I thank you for having me on because I don't always have a chance to say thank you to all the folks you have shared the sentiments over the last three months.

It's great to be missed. I have some folks that would love to relaunch our show in August at the mothers that they we may have to wait 2021 so things are cooking and you'll be among the first to know when something hatches appreciated as always, thank you for your time and said I will order the first day when you're back on their thanks for joining us today. Thank you, Dave and I celebrate all the other on a read that you are highlighting absolutely take your DJ you do, but David Glenn Carolina co-sportscaster of the year along with John Portland of the Carolina hurricanes run a step aside, take a break and when we come back will be joined by Tom Bertolucci Sports Illustrated senior baseball writer. You know him from MLB network in Fox's welder in the World Series.

He is our is actually one of our Hall of Famer's going into the Hall of Fame as a sports writer. In addition to his sports casting duties.

If we don't put Sawyer to sleep behind the glass first. Stay with us. Welcome back to the drive without Josh Graham this afternoon. My name stay for an executive director of the national sports media Association sitting in for Josh on what was supposed to be our 61st annual awards banquet day and one of the people we were another I should save the people we were to honor tonight is Tom Perdue. She was supposed to be going into the Hall of Fame. Longtime senior baseball writer for Sports Illustrated.

You may also know his work on MLB network box, how are you, Gloria. I'm doing well. Dave, how are you I am doing great. Are you getting ready for some baseball. I hopefully we get to the starting line.

We get the finish line as well. I'll take any kind of get this point yet about three weeks or so till were supposed to be starting play.

What are you looking for in these next three weeks while I look scary last couple weeks. I think with assertively seeing a lot of estate yellow. It's reminded that the virus is really in control. I mean merely based on the players Association at 108+ protocol or being as careful as they can be with this when you see these hotspots developing understand there's 30 major league teams 1600 major league players plus another thousand or so major league staff support people, it is a very big universe that they're trying to protect so I just hope everybody is a state is possible that you know people do realize that this is a serious issue that they need to be as careful as possible. That being said, we have baseball moping. It changes the narrative after couple months of acrimonious negotiations that the best thing about the game is that happens every day in stories happen every night and listen we we need that right. We think I'll come back international soccer like baseball, specially start in the middle of the race, I think, again, please equate these and other tenant rates. I think that's pretty cool yet episodic nature of the game that you know ill be there every night hopefully for us just like we used to, so it's location location location where will you be during the baseball season lot good question David felt to be worked out. I know you know it's going to be limited access as far as media the home team will produce these games or televisions of the road team will not be sending their broadcast crews for me with box we have exclusive games. Now we will be essentially home team and then for MLB network or really the third team, so to speak again. I thought to be combination of doing games out of the studio and hopefully some of us will be at the ballpark as well because you I think these games do need some kind of accounting on at the site, rather than just having everything done sort of antiseptic late studio with height and crowd noise me. I think you really need to capture how unique these games are and I think darting out at least are certainly curiosity factor what the environment but the vibe is going to be like, we can guess what's going on you like but there's nothing like actually being there when you can hear the players getting on the umpire back out there late that something were not used to, especially will be able to hear the exact language very clearly yet interesting to me. You know II think it's not the kind of start with a blank slate terms of how these games are produced again becomes an all studio game so to speak and not much prep mother will be no live audience.

So I think the enhanced sound of the game, especially in baseball. I think be played out, and I think it's something people really my pre-calling on time to really hearing a crack at that the cleats against the dirt people sliding the infield chatter. Much of that anymore. You, but you don't hear the sound of the game and I'd be more than willing to have five second delay because you know what face it sometimes words get spoken, the people find offensive. But I think trying out the natural might be pretty cool if you can't be at the game to bring the fans really inside the game. The sound I think is a good idea. I agree what we make of the number of layers so far were electing not to play. Yeah I'm expecting were going to see a few more of these. I don't think it's going to be, you know a really high number. I have no problem as a personal decision. You know, especially if you have some cases the players have wives who are expecting children. Family members who may be at high risk if they are not self so it's an individual decision. I respect that.

But I do think there's something about what players do it very finite career. I games that are lost will not be made up and you know I also think there's something to the dynamic of your team. I am in the 60 game seasons of virtually every team in the shop class I would make 20 or 30 teams of it pretty shot at getting to the postseason and for some people, you know, I understand, again, is a personal decision, but is also that Paul of being part of your group. When the rest your brother out there and you know about their grinding in their hearing thing protocols and and and a lot of things the players have to do to stay safe me.

You know it's a powerful thought to be part of the team and know that your friends are out there you're not there again I I respect that decision by think majority players will feel almost an obligation to their team and to their teammates, especially to be out there. Let's talk about Rob Manford for minutes easy targets deserved or not. What I think some people fail to realize is that the decisions usually are not his because he works at the pleasure of the garden. I think there were a lot of trust from the start between the two side and he's going to bear most of the night, with a copy of the Commissioner baseball and yes he works for 30 owners but you don't part of his responsibility is to be wanted out in front. But I do think the owners started out looking at this as a one-off seated. This is something no one experienced a global pandemic shutdown.

Everything and how to find a way to return to play during a pandemic where the players thought not only that but they saw this as not to talk about the economics of the game and understanding that the collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of 2021 season to the players. I think it sort of jumpstarted negotiations about the economics of the game and toward DCPA so I think they came at this from different perspectives and you know it's just a shame that played out so publicly the distress of their okay we understand that baseball coming out a long history of that but the fact that each side was trying to win a PR battle with most man don't we know most fans don't want to hear the in the now bargaining in good faith that they know what's being leaked to the media. They just wanted to know baseball was going to return and I think you know both sides lost as far as trying to win a PR battle. I think that's something that aunt didn't care about the fact I think it backfired on both so I just hope that it can be put behind him.

Not sure that can but it average man. I'm just hoping that you once again began making the kind of allowed Tony Clark and Rob Manford to say the background start talking about Beth and Mike Trout what what would your opinion, what would you like to see happen. Assuming the 60 game season and playoffs are played to make it easier to get to another collected collective bargaining agreement at the end of next watt. I think there Clark hinted at the possibility Mike late now about having you know re-examining an expanded postseason.

I think that would be really excited that that the owners would want I will. They have time to get that done.

Now I don't excel but you know, for instance, cooperation in terms out again the broadcast having the players make up I think will really be fun thing for me. You saw that was somebody's golf event again that insight access at the well is a great selling point for the game and actually sell the players and the personalities really well you finding these little areas of common ground to get some agreement working in a collaborative way. I think is really helpful.

So even if it's not as simple as players being miked up for games.

I think that's helpful going forward. Here you used to grieve the game nuts, I certainly appreciate your time today. You state stay busy whether their games are and were not in the congratulations again on your soon-to-be induction indoor Hall of Fame.

Look forward to hopefully seeing you here next yeah look forward to that.

I figure you know if Eric Peter could wait to go to baseball here once made 56 errors for the Greensboro team in the South Atlantic and I covered yet they did.

The difficult part.

Thanks again will talk soon thank you letter Dave height sealer. I was Tom Purdue GV 2019 NSM a national sportscaster of the year and hopefully he will be able to come next June for our awards banquet which was supposed to be tonight's batting cleanup today will be Dan Patrick and he will join us. I know the source of a great job of playing his promos all throughout our show so that should make Dan happy will join us after we take a break for this welcome back to the drive without Josh Graham who is on think nation Dave Goren sitting in Joshua this afternoon on what was supposed to be the day of the 61st annual national sports media Association awards banquet in general and joining us now on the phone was supposed to be inducted into our Hall of Fame and was was grinding on what his speech was going to be tonight Dan Patrick how are you I was told Josh was going to be hosting sorry to get somebody else along please. I'm sorry I'm good yeah I I was grinding over what I would say there because you want to, then people go all that's why you go Hall of Famer.

I was worried that I get done they go though per year.

What what we could do is we could move you in the batting order so you can either go first when everyone hasn't caught their breath yet or go last. And by that time they fall drink themselves into a stupor and wouldn't remember this negotiable know that's unacceptable.

That's unacceptable after revocable. We will revoke your induction white guy get kicked out before I get like now.

So how are you adjusting to resume life actually been an new added dimension because it was on YouTube and know the radio. I felt the radio show on TV make you play to the right audience. The book on whom that adds a little bit more element or a welcoming Avenue people were eating them.

Having the conversation radio is you're talking to somebody over the phone. Now I get back to the does it drive you nuts to what will you have it set up in your studio or looks like you're looking right into the camera, but I'm always looking at the person talking on the screen I I have the monitor set up right underneath. I'm giving the appearance that I'm looking into the camera and/or I'm looking like oh I don't like looking into directly into the camera. I I like looking down a little better off to the camera. It doesn't look like them.

Eavesdropping or in a Quaker and you're like you're always looking down at the Dennis correct. Well I do that and I still have to thank you Fritz E4 for playing along to get me on in January when we told you you were going in the Hall of Fame and the and was almost blew the surprise they told me before beforehand. All she had blown many shocking cannot keep a secret. II bought my wife an airstream 12 years ago I told the Danette that I bought it for right there. We forget family stop by and make them like we were to stop again like the old RV and I'm stopping in there and wanted it that then we were take our wedding picture by airstream that I bought her upper lower. Here we look in the and so I will really like losing their Dan, are you driving on I-95 right now.

Now did you think we did know now and now you sound crystal-clear.

Oh yeah, pretty blue eyes on the air mentioning that I got my wife airstream and before I gave so you got on me that my where were you think we are with with playing games team games and we look forward to maybe getting going late July or early August. I don't I don't know. I really don't deny I tried to be realistic about all in support were taught to hope you hope for the bat and as a fan. I'm hoping for the best but hope to prepare for the work on that.

The approach I have to have because I'm doing the math number all I come off smoothly.

I don't think for anybody to question it. What is the collateral damage clinical and that a court where the fan. All the above none of the above. I don't know if it really is like I don't think that were going to have you things I hadn't really thought about and then I was talking to somebody you know if you if you even if you play the seasons you baseball now and then try to finish NBA and NHL will then next season gets pushed back… Going to do to specially NHL and NBA seasons. For the years to come. Why different federal certain season, and in both of those ports and will be NBA would probably art maybe after Christmas, we may look at that Christmas day but I don't know. I just don't know how that you will and the only reason why they're doing it and try to cram it in his hundred hundreds of millions of dollars they and that fit.

I think they look at this from a rational point of view that the other no way we can get it done, but in their minds feel like we have to get this done because the amount of money at stake, and I think it's a formula the recipe for disaster. When I think about is I'm sure you've had several people wanting to talk about it. But all these protocols in these scenarios that they have had to build and may never get used not just just think of all the time that has gone into this knowing full well that you might never be able to put in the play yeah that you have this where your trying to work it been done and all the players cards and and it may not matter. It may, we may just go hey guys from the starting five. The Lakers tested positive. They're out for two weeks while now we you can't say don't give me the what if an area you have to cover all of the what if scenarios because you just don't who thought we would be in the situation you're overreacting and I would go we would be here back in March who thought we would be here. I brought this up and said hey by the way, all work is going to be put on hold for a couple of months because of the pandemic person. You say what you pandemic then we would be going okay but back stronger than ever. I have no idea what I would think that way. I just I just don't know makes me nervous right there with you how you can play football season with a number of contact points. There are among the football team, not just the players but the coaches and all the ancillary personnel will 100,000 people in real estate stadium for the volunteers I go yonder on near success, but it I think we feel like with United in this stuff doesn't hold back.

Don't nobody hold us back and we plow through this we get the things done.

I just hope unseen wit were pretty good against the opponent, but this one right now it is one nothing pandemic is more challenging for you to post your show. I lot of storyline to make what you talking about when there is plenty to talk about it. That we might not spend as much time on spending more time on cam Newton God God love you Kim, thank you. We need to do today you have these stories that come along the draft he had Brady had brought you me just run down the list of all the things that have come up that are truly sports related. It's just we place more value on them now because there's no games to talk about and challenging, but I also think it it made us work hard made us think more. It's made a really look at. Do we have enough pertinent topics for three hours and what are we going to add to I would say to Fritz, he always really good sifting through the story and saying what can we do that is different than somebody else who suggests we have on you, prided ourselves on. But I also think it's it's negative. Better because now we know we can deal with monks no actual or on the field or on the court and and I'm very proud of our guys with what we done all I can say is God bless you because I feel filled in on the show maybe once every six months and my voice is gone waiting for the end of our three to how you do it on a daily basis on how much of you starting your career as a reporter you feel is given you the background to be able to pull this off effectively in measurable because I learned at CNN and it was never about the talent. It was always about the glory and I've been there and I replaced Keith Olbermann in New York and I was there for 3 1/2 years and I was covering more Boston Philly New York PC I go to the Preakness I go to Celtics versus Lakers NBA finals World Series boxing event, you name it.

I was able to cover those but I had to go out and cover them. I had to meet people and I got horses as a result of that and I wouldn't be where I am today without in and having that ability to understand the story cover story, talk to people on the record. Off the record interview people put something together and have it ready for a certain timeframe.

I'm lucky very lucky to be able to do that and very good for for some reason why I remember this distinctly, but I was freelancing it TV station in Boston and remember you fronting coverage of the baseball lockout or strike whatever was in the five or 86 is a good reporter. I did probably 60 like shot my debit just do a need for another update and I just would get ready like certain time my hair and I go on camera and give the three or four minute updates on CNN hit back down to wait for both like to come out with the soundbite and it was monotonous but it I needed. I needed to understand how do tell a story to story building story get sources and getting on the Aaron looking in and don't highlight because there's so much more to this if you want there to be more than this. I think you just gave us some breaking news to you so you had to fix her hair. At one point in your career.

I like Travolta in Saturday night fever. There I have never not known what it's like not to have to fix your hair every day because mom was always going in 17 different direction toward center. While I didn't care what I look like it was more of you know if I I would grab at high gift from their be codirected and a number one anchor put all the pies on the coat rack walking that I would grab at high there was not a lot of thought that went into some of those SportsCenter we were doing over 200, 225 SportsCenter year and I did over 2000 of those things and after a while you just like okay buddy baby care what I'm I'm wearing is how much fun we're having here and I really care what you're wearing what he did to get the highlights and you, Keith Olbermann and the cast of hundreds to the great job of that.

Then I can thank you enough for wanting us for a few minutes here today and congratulations on what has been a great career open keeps going for least a little longer.

At least the long enough to get back here to Winston-Salem next June with the best speech we've ever heard all my God they don't. I I'm cringing active. I I I want all the talk about all the great things, like I was considering bringing all the dance all my kid and just have them say something nice about me, and I think thank you and good night everybody. I think the best speech so far was actually a bill Raftery's presentation was was Eagle and McDonough and they just did they switch doing one-liners at the podium. Here's Bill that was brought back to wrap it right is not a singular team came all the way. Mike percent by remaining CNN it when I know you got ago you probably up against the hard right here but I walk into a bar. The Craig Sager owned and all documents you and I walk in and wrap is at the end of the barking, walking the entire corners filled with Budweiser, the entire corners probably 30 beers there and I just got done working at CNN I go over there and I walk in the classical ordered 33 Google wrap. I don't know what to think about that. Well, McDonough is a line on him was his good Irish arthritis against different different joint every night. That's great. I appreciate your reaching out and thank you again for me on the crisis surprises and will be in touch with you. Thank you very much and always present. Thank you Dave Dan. Take care, Dan Patrick and SMA Hall of Famer who will be inducted.

We hopeless cross fingers next year here in Winston-Salem renting a break will be back to wrap things up right after