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Lessons for America from the Protests in Hong Kong

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August 16, 2019 8:00 pm

Lessons for America from the Protests in Hong Kong

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Hong Kong is a small peninsula with islands that juts into the South China Sea on the southern coast of China. Its territory covers only about a 20 by 20 mile area.

Despite its small size, Hong Kong is one of the “world’s most significant financial centres and commercial ports…world’s tenth-largest exporter, ninth-largest importer…and its legal tender (the Hong Kong dollar) is the world’s 13th-most traded currency. Hong Kong is one of the most densely populated places in the world…and hosts the largest concentration of ultra high-net-worth individuals of any city” (Wikipedia)....

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Lessons for America from the protest in Hong Kong that is a topic we discussed today. Right here on the Christian worldview radio program where the mission is to sharpen the biblical worldview of Christians and to share the good news that you can be reconciled to God. Faith in Jesus Christ, I'm David. We host the program or website is the Christian worldview.org thanks for joining us today for another edition of the Christian review radio programs we talk about lessons for America from the protest in Hong Kong after not familiar with this particular region of the world. Hong Kong is a a small peninsula with islands that just into the South China Sea on the southern coast of China is territory only covers about a 20 x 20 mile area. Despite his small size. Hong Kong is quote one of the world's most significant financial centers and commercial ports is according to Wikipedia, the world's 10th largest exporter and ninth largest importer is legal tender its money. The Hong Kong dollar is the world's 13th most traded currency. Hong Kong is one of the most densely populated places in the world and host the largest concentration of ultra high net worth individuals of any city in the world unquote quite a place small little place in the Far East in the southern coast of China. Hong Kong also has a unique history in I think it was 1847 he became a British colony after a war, but was returned to mainland China 150 years later in 1997 under the auspices of this slogan, one country to systems. In other words Hong Kong would be part of China one country but maintain economic and individual liberties that had just enjoyed under British rule that are present.

Of course in communist China now only 22 years after that agreement, 1997, China is imposing evermore control over Hong Kong. This people who have tasted freedom and taught want to give it back in protest of rock Hong Kong for weeks regarding international attention, what will China do what will America do of China crackdown similar to the Tiananmen Square massacre 1989 and in Beijing and what should Americans and Christians be paying attention to. Why should they be a pet paying attention to this. This far left wing power grab. David Aikman joins us today in the Christian worldview. He is the author and geopolitical analyst.

He specializes in China and Russia.

Let's get to the first segment of that interview. David, thank you for coming back on the Christian worldview radio program.

It's been a year or two since you been on the program so we appreciate your taking the time today to talk about what is going on in Hong Kong and how it relates to America. This is a world away from Americans other side of the world, so to speak, Frame What Is Taking Pl. in Hong Kong right now. What is the history of that place for the protesters. What do they want, etc. right and what will we be Hong Kong used to be product China fees colony in a war in 18 when we wanted to trade with China and the Chinese will show the good 3G man King. They called it which gave them the parent. Hong Kong Island and eventually part of the mainland and the last, that was from 1899 in the agreement that Hong Kong would be returned to China a 1997 when she was but the agreement was that they had been raped and democratic political freedom could knock on the release of the including voting for the sheep. These have been allowed to the chief executive management of the legislature, who made no and the Chinese okay in the fact that Hong Kong China now. We got it back and that will have one concrete fixed system of government that name will be bogged China, so Hong Kong won't have any independent foreign policy on the fact that but on the other hand, you will have the same legislature should be created and then that was supposed to be the 1997 until 2057 five the one concrete system has completely broken down as the Chinese government in Beijing had been managing for work to take a bowl life and political politics, Hong Kong than previously possible and a few months ago, back in June.

The Hong Kong government Beijing, we scroll to the shop introduced a new bill in the legislature that would allow people in Hong Kong to be extradited to China. There was sufficient evidence all a criminal offense and that and even following the boxing salon conquered. Tanks China daily huge results included demonstrations by Democratic legislative and that a significant number of the people of Hong Kong. At the height of the demonstration will million people in the streets protesting and when the population of Hong Kong Excel 7 million you can imagine what it sizable chunk of existence that is the distance started in June and it is been going on every single week for 10 weeks and 82 recently become more violent because rather than protested and clashing property and in response, the leadership in charging impact on firing tear gas grenade console and and ominously the Beijing government said Patterson and has threatened to standing clearly longed for that is not specifically threatening the People's liberation Army, which can't have a base in Hong Kong but the Hong Kong police may not be able to control all these demonstration and Beijing received Michelle embarrassed by his opposition that they will in the two stopped over they will be sending soldiers and delete that it could very bowl situation and a lot of people to be commenting, including better than, thank you for explaining that so well that was an excellent explanation of the history of Hong Kong who these protesters are what they want and what they're up against in the communist Chinese government adjust.

Incidentally, as you were describing the history and some of those dates. I have some personal history in Hong Kong from back in my tennis playing days are used to travel over there quite a bit actually in love that city. It was always the most enjoyable city for me to visit Elyse in the Far East because of the other Western atmosphere, English-speaking the free artist systems and so forth. A beautiful city on the sea and I remember peas I was there in the 90s every member what you are talking about with this one country to systems changeover that was in the press. In 1997. There is this huge change taking place for China was now in a control Hong Kong that was huge in the news and of course people were leery about that.

What was gonna turn out from that. Well here we are were here more than 20 years later now in Beijing is striking down with a stronger hand with this issue of extradition taking Hong Kong nationals news that may be in foreigners bringing them out of Hong Kong and mainland China to be prosecuting the courts and people are now protesting. So very interesting. David Aikman again with us today in the Christian worldview. He's an author and geopolitical analyst. He pulled his PhD actually in Russian and Chinese history is an expert on this particular region. David why is this situation in Hong Kong a significant geopolitical event that Americans and Christians should be informed about what is a what happens when the Chinese totalitarian system run by the communist body common ground against Democratic protesters control everything by party, the Chinese Communist Party. I copied many blunt about it. The Mafia in charge of the country hated most corrupt system of government. Anybody devised and they hell-bent student use implied expression on taking over the whole world and lay on dislodging the United States comics number one position that the global minute actually an economic superpower is a product a program cool. They had a good year in America which is to replace the United States as global heat to Mother's Day call it an idea 2014 nine which is 100 that at this rate of the communist in power and mainland China. It was quite a deliberate policy and it has to be with this goodbye old freedom loving people in every way possible. How do you anticipate that China will respond going forward. Sure, you said there embarrassed by the fact that these protests are growing and if they crackdown very harshly like they did in TNI Men Sq. in Beijing I believe. Back in 1987, more than a 90 day 1989.

So exactly 30 years ago.

What would the US actually be able to do, if anything, if their response is a major crackdown. One question the wrong thing in terms of doing sanctions against individual members of the Chinese Communist Party being involved in this trade sanction, the United States could deploy. I don't think that a much United States could do the American public euthanasia that the United States is obviously not striving for any kind of medically conflict with China and noted the Chinese want that at this point either. So it's a game of pilaf and double block that you probably been trumped pleaded that he was willing to act as a go-between between primitive and she China and protesters knockoff. I think that I can't think of the analogy that I think it very unlikely. The Chinese, but the politically Pres. Trump would be emaciated between needs to be voted listening to you with David Aikman today here in the Christian worldview just spoke to him a couple days ago. He lives in Ireland and has an extensive career in geopolitics. There are lessons here for American for Christians in these protests in Hong Kong may seem like a world away as we get into this interview you're going to see how this certainly relates to American history and potentially what's coming in the future and America's well was a commercial break of the day here in the states and much more coming up on the situation in Hong Kong with our guest David a the next Christian worldview speaker series and is on Sunday, September 15 at 7 PM at Grace Church Eden Prairie. It features Darrell Harrison presenting on how social justice impacts the gospel and the church. Darrell is a former fellow of the black theology leadership Institute Princeton theological seminary and expository Bible teacher.

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Let's get back to the second segment of that interview is speaking of the Chinese military David, they have quite a military how is their military compared with the United States military and is it true that they have gotten much of their military technology by stealing it from the US Gen. technology by stealing designed American investors and she is going through old kind of goofy methods to get all technology that they might look a lot alike on that road and probably get the US was always under the impression that we have China, strong not been able to gain they became a successful capitalist country, they would be just like volcanic smog. The Chinese Communist Party want to be just like America at all. In fact, they look back to the days of the morning state China about 700 to 208 BC when it will all the individual cave-in complying in China into one guy became the T complete copy and imposed a totalitarian state became the first of the imperial dynasties into one PC so they have long basin to pay the plaintiff United States. Do you think they have long-term ambitions of actually taking over the United States.

Well, yeah they do throughout the United States from its preeminent position as global superpower and particularly at the end of democratically instituting countries against Chinese conversion and external aggression if they succeeded in placing the United States.

Their ultimate goal would be taken over much of the United States that it could have. I don't mean by physically occupying it all that encoding indeed amount so that at some point, pot basically depriving the United States of freedom of action that it had held in the world basically unchallenged by anybody Soviet Union since 1945 David with us today on the Christian worldview is a PhD in Russian and Chinese history as part of the reason our having him on today's also a author and geopolitical analyst very informed on the region of the Far East, specifically China. How is this conflict going on right now in Hong Kong going to affect Christians in the church, both in Hong Kong and in China because there is been a recent within the last year. A major crackdown on underground churches and Christians in China. How do you see this developing.

David made Christianity in China goes back to the very beginning. If she didn't think being a "technically back in 2013 and Christians in Hong Kong China and everywhere else view the current situation is very ominous development, it. The Communist Party succeeds in persuading the Hong Kong government to the Deloitte old Lisa had abandoned dependency and suppressing opposition in all, then that she had the Chinese Communist Party will be able to almost any other activity that they they dislike mainly Christian evangelism of any kind, either in Hong Kong.

Only China so it could very file the situation. The Chinese Communist Party is in the issues and elusive that God of any regime in the world.

Stalin that's a big statement and maybe I Kim Jong-Il and in North Korea would be right that little rocket map and trumpet gold and maybe a little bit older predicate is in control. Many people write exactly David Aikman again with us today in the Christian worldview.

Speaking of Pres. Tromp. What do you think of his dealings with China.

So far in his administration with regard to trade with regard to tariffs on Chinese goods coming back into America. How he deals with the militarily and really the bigger question is part two is should the US be actually engaged with such a human rights abuse or a communist government such as China where you are right question David, the issue is whether we should being gay God being magazine is doing and current issue about what the people who are protecting the United States, militarily, all diplomatically against all" China is the single most important habit initially as a single nationstate, Gordon Chang, frequent commentator on Fox News told me in an interview we should disengage from China, which means we should be encouraging businessmen to go to a recent cut outside. We should have a noneconomic type that is inclusive, local alternative so that he factually for American goods instructed in the use and we should really be vigilant watch what Chinese opportunity within United States functioning that that an agent of administrative state security, which is basically China devotion of the FBI, CIA, combined with us today and also in geopolitical analyst talking about lessons for America from the protests in Hong Kong. Now these protesters in Hong Kong are generally unarmed. They don't have weapons firearms essay they're up against day on authoritarian communist government that is extremely well armed. How should this be considered by Americans with regard to the current battle over the Second Amendment right to bear arms in this country. Considering that with the political views of the majority of the left in this country right now hello my European tool and rapid a great new mass shooting in the United States. I believe we have the Second Amendment is to protect old Cleveland citizen including the First Amendment and the basic constitutional cleaning and many Americans. For God the right to bear around the house and went protection.

All the other right that I don't think in terms of Hong Kong.

Any of those arguments really apply because even the protesters in Hong Kong. The vast majority of them are not advocating violence of any kind. These civil violence involving my real issue is in principle at least, his father, Second Amendment bikes in the United States go out you essentially protect basic rights of the American people without getting people the necessary protection they need in an election. The defendant felt from an intrusive government.

I don't think there is any doubt that that's something I've often considered especially in light of being a Christian where our government is one of the few I think in history that was specifically intentional about making sure that citizens have the right to bear arms, not merely for sport shooting out hunting and shooting targets, not merely just for self-defense against criminals, but really against the church. When a government becomes tyrannical. That's why the founders instituted the second amendment and at the same time David. As Christians we read what it says in Scripture about submitting to governmental authority, even to those governmental authorities like in the time of Christ. Roman government was terribly tyrannical and he and his apostles never advocated for, took up arms to throw off that government.

I think there's a lot of people in America who believe strongly in the Second Amendment and would take up arms against his government as of the time of our founding.

There was this debate going on as well amongst Christians about resisting the British government know was that biblically ethical for Christians to do that so maybe you can talk about that argument for us today in 2019.

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Christian worldview.org talking today about lessons for America. The protests in Hong Kong that might seem like quite a disassociated thing Hong Kong protests with the Americans and persons. But there is has to do with how Christians interact with a authoritarian government. Governments have the tendency to do this and what should Christians do, and David Aikman's can answer that question just a second has to get back interview to give you more context on David. He spent day 23 year career at Time magazine. He's now the editor-in-chief of God speed magazine's author of 10 books. He was a professor of history at Patrick Henry College in Virginia.

He speaks six languages.

His PhD in Russian and Chinese history is a graduate of Oxford in England exactly coming to us today. In the interview from Ireland where he is now 75 years old and he was diagnosed with MS in 1994 and now today he is in a wheelchair so that I can remember to pray for him. In that capacity as well. But God has given him wonderful mind and a wonderful grasp of history and were thankful for his perspective on this topic today. So let's get back to the final segment with David Aikman.

I think there's a lot of people in America who believe strongly in the Second Amendment and would take up arms against his government as of the time of our founding. There was this debate going on as well amongst Christians about resisting the British government know was that it biblically ethical for Christians to do that so maybe you can talk about that argument for us today in 2019. Well time of the American Revolution was great debate among many Americans will lead you to taking out and the Americans decided that they wanted it would biblical is unanimity coming from the Old Testament when a king or ingratiating collapse or unrighteous. The people rebelled against that regime and the Lord actually vindicated them by co-opting the on the Houston. I think any argument against the normal Christian ability to next to tyrannical government you found Christians you well, God himself will intervene at the last minute to protect people from voting.

In a imposed upon them from about five there were many examples in the history of the English-speaking people coming in the 18: the Wendy's Puritan the English Puritans talk about who gets child and a deep posting and they momentarily imposed public awning to 1847 that eventually child to think of the town of Chavez Gorbach that the event of a line should remnant overthrowing the tyrannical government is writ large in the history of the English-speaking people, both the goodies and not states and the goals Americans best in the based on the legitimacy of the relational rebellion against the school. Thank you for going back in history and selling.

That's a very interesting question. I think this one's needs to be considerable from history and from.

Of course the Bible as well final question for you.

David Aikman is that as we look at these protests bumping up against the authoritarian governments of China.

I know no one can predict the future. You have a lot of history in this region. How do you think this is going to end up eventually.

With regard to Hong Kong, their freedoms, maybe even Taiwan and what role should the US should be playing in this and how should Christians be praying for this region was the question why think Christians should pray that reasonableness and harmony will prevail and that is one" this will lead to a Clintonian crackdown similar to what happened in 1989 Tiananmen Sq. in Beijing. That would be catastrophic. Unfortunately, given my experience of the Chinese Communist Party. I was one of the few people depicted that they would shoot the demonstrations in 1989 and I was correct.

Unfortunately, I think one case scenario is technically a pop that you might have Chinese People's armed police and soldiers literally storming into Hong Kong not to try and arrest everybody that is essentially to intimidate the court demonstrated that they can identify and then maybe alleged that the ideal solution. The goal the demonstrators to agree to speak some kind of mediation between the Hong Kong government elections from Beijing and fell to a faith saving resolution on both side would provide a mutually satisfactory half way point, whether that meant removing complete need the additional bill to extradite people in Hong Kong all laying it on the shelf and postponing that they ideal about once you had people in Hong Kong. I come into show that they've strictly don't buy one concrete to Houston from and currently managed by Beijing.

They basically done like any kind of communist and I'll call as you are saying. Talking about one country to systems and I'm thinking as I'm watching the political conversation in this country right now that we almost have one country to propose to systems going forward. On one side with the right you have more of our traditional free-market system, and the last what's being proposed is a remaking of America in a socialistic type government or big government mentality is that inaccurate to say that the battle for America's further this concert of this one country two different systems going forward. Well, I think you do a Civil War wedding that Evelyn could be admitted and connect suggesting I receive that could impose his own music growth animal. No country and that program will enable the suppression of independent share issues, possibly due to questionable flea connectivity and major complication of old weapons from everybody. I mean that the idiot eventuality which would I think unquestionably lead to a leading Civil War.

I loaded a novel based on this planet. Many go when the almond tree blocking and that I tried to convey just how awful a communist type machine would be the majority of the United States and what kind of interested David, thank you so much for coming on the Christian Realty today sharing from your experience and expertise. Your commentary on the situation in Hong Kong with regards to communist China and how it relates to America in Christians here so we just wish all of God's best in grace to you. Thank you again, thank you very much for having me on even listening to an interview with David Aikman.

He is a geopolitical analyst has had a long career in that field, author of many books you can connect with him now. He's even in his mid-70s. Here he still working as editor-in-chief of God speed magazine Godspeed mag.com and if you missed any of the interview. As always, you can go back in here on our website the Christian world you.org so this is something to pay attention to not only because of what is taking place here in the Far East between a country of a territory guess you could call in Hong Kong. That's really for generations only known Western-style democracy when it was under British rule, and all of a sudden, in 1997 the flip the switch was flipped to go back under mainline China communist control. You can imagine what kind of the abrupt reality check that was for the people of Hong Kong awaiting what this might mean one now we know what it means now. China's exerting ever more control over Hong Kong saying that they want to be able to take people out of Hong Kong to try them in mainland China and the people are say no this wasn't this wasn't the rule. This was in the agreement. Back when the changeover want to place of one country to systems. We have a different legal system. Then you communist China to the north and the problem here is this is not a fair fight and protesters can be out there every day and every week, and you're raising your arms and holding signs and covering your faces that are not seen.

But the reality is government were all shakes down to whittle down to the bottom line government has the guns and that's why. Eventually this might turn into a situation as we saw on Tiananmen Square many years ago were China just cracks down on Hong Kong and sends a message and these people in Hong Kong have no way to defend them so they can protest all they want march in the streets, but eventually when the communist China government comes in with firearms.

The public and be out of luck and so the lesson is as we think about this in America one side of the political class is saying we need to basically disarm America really really what they want.

All governments want the citizens three disarmed because it makes it a whole lot easier to get your way.

When no one can push back come back will talk more about this in the final thing the day here in the Christian will view the next Christian worldview speaker series and is on Sunday, September 15 at 7 PM at Grace Church Eden Prairie.

It features Darrell Harrison presenting on how social justice impacts the gospel and the church. There was a former fellow with the black theology leadership Princeton theological seminary and expository Bible teacher. He has a passion for helping Christians understand what they believe and why. He'll do just that with the issue of social justice, followed by a Q&A moderated by host no cost. No registration just come. The event will also be live streamed on the Christian will be Facebook page for more information: Tripoli 646-2233 or visit Christian world.org the Christian will be speaker series with Darrell Harrison Sunday, September 15 at 7 PM at Grace Church and Prairie: Tripoli 646-2230 or visit Christian world.org the prosperity gospel is a prominent false gospel that God offers health, wealth and prosperity. If you just have faith and give money costing can crew up on the inside of the prosperity gospel movement. His uncle is world renowned prosperity preacher Benny in custody sought all the manipulation staged healings, luxuriant lifestyles and perversion of Scripture before God opened because these eyes to understand sound doctrine and believe in the true gospel. Now a pastor cost. He has written an important book entitled God read in the prosperity gospel which chronicled his own experience and gracefully points the reader to the truth of Scripture for limited time you can order this 224 page softcover book for donation of any amount to the Christian real normal retailer 1799. Without shipping to order: 1888 646-2233 or visit the Christian world of you.org final thing the day here in the Christian worldview radio program.

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We have the club has to know how many people are coming for golf and for dinner, and so forth. That deadline is the day after Labor Day ends Tuesday, September 3. Okay, just a few summary thoughts about our conversation with David Aikman today about lessons for America and also for Christians from the Protest Taking Pl. in Hong Kong and one lesson is left-wing governments communist governments socialistic governments are always the most authoritarian and repressive governments and people often think the right wing and the come fascists and so forth your fascism. You know, a tyrannical rule by a 1 L that's actually left-wing. Usually there any kind of big government that's left-wing anytime there's a limited government that's more right wing no government is anarchy okay so left-wing governments are the ones that are the most authoritarian and repressive, take the Soviet Union communist China and North Korea. The authoritarian governments in Iran and so forth. Though those are also left-wing get their big government imposition of everything. The exchange that takes place is they'll talk about social justice for you will talk about the things that you get from them from government.

They're going to give you free healthcare and education there to give you a job there can give you a little apartment to live in there to have a great public transportation system seeking that you can get around main give you food okay to give you the things but the exchanges you have to give up your freedom, your freedom of speech, freedom of religion, your freedom of self protection. The right to bear arms because inequality and security are always in opposition there is either have one of the other either IV quality and security in one side. If you have that you to take away people's individual liberty to do that. So if you want perfect security and equality. You can just kiss your individual liberties of of speech and religion goodbye and self protection. Goodbye now there is a balance you can have some of each. But when you start no tipping toward the side of why want I want perfect equality in society. I don't want anyone to be able to be discriminated against right. This is what takes place today. We want a nondiscrimination society so if you're Christian photographer Baker in you is against your biblical conscience based on your sincerely held belief to service a same-sex wedding that you find offensive.

According to your your beliefs well in the in in the interest of nondiscrimination you've lost that personal liberty and if you if you hold to the personal liberty. You can be punished for it is a perfect example of if you want a quality don't expect to have all your same personal liberties individual liberties of freedom, religion, speech, and self protection. Another example of this.

Do you see this Taking Pl. in Canada for someone who's transgender now and can't they have laws that you have to call someone by their preferred pronoun. Okay, so if someone is born a man. But now they consider themselves a women woman.

You can't call that person that he always you'll be punished for it.

You can use took the liberty to do that, but you will this be punished and sent to jail. Okay, you'll be a mess at the jail but you lose your job or whatever is going to be again. If you want perfect equality you want perfect security.

You're gonna be giving up individual liberties to do so. So that's what we did this topic today to think about what's Taking Pl. in Hong Kong. This is a freedom loving people who have been used to having individual liberties.

All of a sudden they were given back to communist China. Now you have a huge left-wing government of communist China imposing ever more control over this people whose used individual liberties is a project that forward to what is being proposed now in the United States with the Democratic Party in this country and all these candidates promising free healthcare free education student loan debt and free everything in government control and invite unending immigration and so forth.

All under the under the guise of social justice, equality for all. Everyone gets everything okay we know what happens when that takes place they start to control everything. Then they enforce their values on those who may not agree with them by Christians who may want to have who do want to have freedom to read of religion and speech, and being able to protect themselves and this also gets into the the right to bear arms. This is a huge topic right now.

Always has been actually in America we see these recent to mass shootings down in Texas and in in Ohio and the left is constantly clamoring to have gun control.

Now they'll say it's we want comprehensive gun reform the speak of in terms of of you know we we not try take your guns away, but ultimately they do want to take your guns away. All governments want to take the guns away of people they just do because it it it eliminates any opposition to them. It it it creates this Gorka situation Hong Kong will get people to hold signs but that's all they can do when when Beijing decides it's over all people are gonna die people would be hauled off to jail. Families are never to see them again, and this can be an ugly situation.

So Christians need to consider that very carefully as you think about your individual liberties in this country and what the unbelievable governments environment we've had in this country since our founding in how this leftward turn is attractive from having only quality in and give people things and there is more is less is less difference between that the those rural or wealthy.

And those who are poor list created equal society and nondiscrimination to be careful what you wish for because when you wish for those things and work for those things.

All of a sudden you find out if you have biblical convictions and people who don't, it doesn't matter to them. Though the score right along with it like people in China that they know they're happy to get the free stuff. A lot of people in this country are happy get the free stuff to they don't have the don't care about being able to live out their Christian faith is not Christians, they don't care about being a having a AAA conscience based on Scripture because they don't have one so doesn't matter to them that is not the free stuff, but those of us who cherish what we believe is the most important thing in life. We don't want to be told that we had that we have to do things that violate our our our conscience based on Scripture. So I think next week we might do a program going back to the Revolutionary war because Christians battled with this back then should they revolt against England. Is that something is biblically justifiable or not. That's a very interesting discussion and might be something is very relevant for Christians going for nothing or some Civil War coming at all. But you see the movement of the nations and what goes on around the world.

These classes take place very, very often, thank you for joining us today on the Christian review radio program and we do live in a changing and challenging world, a world in which governments do seek ever more power over citizens.

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