When do the Carolina Hurricanes take the next step?

This is the gold shell. Good pace to and Mike Maniscalco uses that term able to get to Mike Maniscalco in the roundtable model voice of the Carolina hurricanes first appearance on the roundtable and Randy Slack voice of Wilmington. Everything that happens in Wilmington ready Slack. Nothing more is that from ESPN Wilmington I think. I think Randy I guess he is a returning champion because Randy was here last week, I start with you Mike Maniscalco talk baseball here as I know your baseball guy and we are working to make ready a baseball guy is not already but I want to start with the with the hurricanes and the move that they made today, which I think will alarm fans. Although as I said earlier will call this a paper move and Jordan Martin look was placed on waivers today and the way I look at it and I was coached by this out this by Cory La Follette of North the journal in the athletic that this is just a paper move to get to the salary ceiling if you will, for 86.55 million, but man, how alarming would it be for fans for Jordan Martin look to not be here. I would be very alarming for some big reason why is when you look at what he does not use that emotional spark plug in the locker room he sees those guys that you look to be a leader. There's a reason why there's a letter on his sweater.

I think that's the alarming part of it. Also, for me, you need players like Jordan Martin noteworthy energy guys will place you anything for Jordan Martin. I always want him to get through the season healthy. There always seems to be something that is nagged him and we haven't been able to get the best of them. Along those lines, but Cory is right and with Jake Gardner being put on the old CIR you have to do these for lack of a better term salary Gymnastics meet it as close as you possibly can to that 86.9 repeating pie member that we seem to get to. So when you get into the rest of the regular-season you can start making more Space limits it's allowed to do that so it's stuff that Eric Kolsky and during your general managers and Don Waddell. People who are far, far smarter than I am a Nigel Wheeler is well there are in charge of this. They know the numbers they have to get so on paper. It's alarming and I will be surprised because of the kind of player that Martin is, he does at least garner interest from somebody will will see tomorrow at noon. It was interested in the teams alternate Capt. Jordan Martin and I would imagine that some team out there. I could use a guy who is a leader in the locker room and can take on players under his wing plays a great, yet he is a good penalty killer and you know the what they missed when Martin it's not in the lineup is nobody yelling. Mr. Spatz took off in the locker room before the game ready Slack the voice of Wilmington on the ESPN Wilmington what you think if I had asked you because I know you're a fan because you you constantly don't call me to talk to hurricanes on Slack on sport think the reason is that this franchise has not only become good, but has now become as people have said to me, the hunted. In the East well me and starts with the development and out you look at the HL Ross Field in Chicago. There always good. They've always developing good players in Carolina and I think that that you know it. It shows it feels a little bit like you know with the Tampa Bay rays. You know that it's a team that constantly's building within the organization and their teammate seems like logistically, the kind that they know what they're doing and they can consistently when and can stick can consistently compete.

The problem is it's great to be at this point, but I want to see when they're going to get to that next when this organization might give you. I do put a word on what the reason is, or I do know a name on what the reason is Meza probably the same thing.

What would be.

I will go toward natural around his lack of scoring the obvious and I can point to the top players where the often seems to dry up in the last year was easy to point to the power play that evaporated guys will reactivate the postseason but that's honestly the one glaring thing you look for a single thread you can pull from when his team had a great run four years ago nobody expected it to the Eastern conference finals in the office right up against Boston with with reason Boston was a really good that's that's been the thing you take a look at the consistent offense goes away when the classroom but by the way everybody occasionally but you got to find a way your best players have to consistently show up on the scoreboard in every series they just can't be initialed in the first round were going to happen you know sporadically playoffs your best players have to do that. I think that man/novel table turbine on refreshment off now that they are this deep into their careered this deep in the playoffs. They understand what it takes. That's the one thing that I think is the easiest thing to point to look for. For me, who is admitted I've covered this team obviously forgot 25 years on this 25th anniversary canes going to podcast people want to check out by the light canes cornered the show starring Mike Maniscalco locally in Raleigh at Becker bistro returns at the end of October. You can hear it on the fan of Michael be at the deal you do know your first guest is yet is it are you still effort and I still effort. I've heard some names bandied about but I'm not at liberty to share are not actively share any grooming tips if there's just I love it. I'm so glad you did that on October 26 at 7 o'clock.

Dr. October 26 7 o'clock just put his initials on my sheet right here.

I think the reason why this team is in the playoffs comes down to one guy. I think it comes down to the head coach Rod Brind'Amour and so much of everything.

I just want you take as I know Randy is much anything you're a fan to as much as anything about this organization over the last 25 years, Rod Brind'Amour, coming here, via trade, being willing to stay and sign long-term and then realizing that this was home. I think is every other organization would kill for somebody like this to lead them and I think that's what sets this organization apart what you think about that Randy yeah you know before Rod and you know when he's been here and whether it was a player as a coach. He does add that bit of legitimacy to end SharePoint you know it's nice to have a guy who you know the players can you relate to. It's nice the fans have that connection with them and it's so rare that you have a guy like that Hughes played and is now the coach of a team that you can that you had success with them both ways. A lot of times it's one or the other said to have it like this for the canes fans is really awesome right now. Let's get to get the baseball I'm curious ready Slack if you had Aaron Judges 62 homerun ball. What would you do with. I would offer it to as much as I hate the hoopla over it be overblown for the fact that the guys six placer seven plays all time. Whatever it is he seems like a great guy.

He's a genuine dude and if he wants that ball I would offer to an infant and then so be it.

If I feel it lets me sell it, then great, I'll sell it and I'll make a bunch of money and maybe I can buy a one bedroom house in Wilmington quickly. With that money bought out yeah I would ask absolutely offered to him first, and if he doesn't want any Yankee fan was over pay for is more than welcome to an auction house Mike in Southern California offered the guy who caught the ball offered him $2 million for it which means it's worth at least four so want to do it mostly granted by the way I think is really what Randy has the OPA system from the original Yankees Stadium on this call if you that I can put a price tag on this will be my Yankees bedroom coming out about might be seventh all-time on the list, use the American League all time homerun single-season champion so there's I guess little value to that writer's things when we used to never replace other play from me. I would the ball belongs to baseball Alonzo Hall of Fame doesn't belong to me. I'm I'm afraid I would give it back to where I give it back to you and if you know he was kind enough to do a Roger Marist.

Others years ago say keep it and sell it that I would go and do that but I know it's easy to say we don't have it, but for me that's that's always been my take is not by a lawsuit. It belongs to history along its $5 million in your hand and that is that that is the pull for a lot of people. I think it's it's an easier conversation to have if you're not financially, if you don't dissent like we could all use guide million dollars title is a guy who caught the ball is some kind of financier Simon. He doesn't need to know he doesn't need the money so if I were in his financial position. It would be an easy one. I would hand the ball back to Erin Judge but as I don't know what anybody's financial situation is I know what mind is like I could use $5 million you make a deal. All right give me give me season tickets for the Yankees don't give their year. Also the season to recoup money that way you go, you can make this a big question about it.

I would hand the ball back and hope that it would know that it would work out in my grandson.

But here's my list of the sun. However, I'm ready. The commissioner of major league baseball said that the record book is the record book. Let fans view the record however they want is is right, Manfred. Telling fans that he also views Erin Judge as the home run record holder mean there's obviously the New York bias with major league baseball is, did we ever get that document unsealed with the Yankees are cheating at all at some of those was the guilt I haven't heard about. So clearly he's in the back to the Yankees as it is.

So yeah, he's like if he wants to make them record God blessing he could make that the record the record 73 by the late 2019. Major league baseball at 67 home runs.

They had 52 home runs this year. If Barry Bonds had 2019 baseballs that she had 100 home runs in a season he might, but I saw a story yesterday that said that Erin Judge with the Jews because of the couple years ago would have hit 81. They said he played a few years ago right, but that but at that, wasn't Erin Judge of here, this is Erin Judge this year that if you use those baseballs. He would if it 81 view my do you think Rob Manfred was fueling the fire of the debate sure has ever made a decision is made, any baseball fan happy Randy as you know, everything slanted for the Yankees in the last 123 World Series.

One can roll right into Stan Adam right. Haven't we just been living in the greatest Erin New York baseball because I so I'm thinking Randy is right. 73. On the way I look at it and what I don't think is what is right is for like Jeff Basson said this the other day on Twitter that 73 is the Erin Judge had a remarkable season 73 is the record and of discussion and I say it's not the end of the discussion because it's it's okay to have the discussion because of what we know about Bonds and McGuire and so so the only players ever to get more than 60 home runs in a season. Not name Marist and Ruth of course at 60 so it's okay to have the discussion and I think it's healthy. But I also don't want to make assumptions that everybody in baseball. I'm not accusing anybody that everybody baseball today's claim because there's drug testing because we just saw Fernando tech piece miss out. He will not be on the field for the Padres because he tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs.

All right, very quickly. Let's get some baseball predictions from the two of you and Emma let you go radio making a baseball fan today got no choice was one of the world.

I love the Houston Astros. They are a model of consistency very very good for a long time way they keep churning out players is tremendous and honestly it's kind of just a fun little thing to have that storyline of the team that had a World Series champion ship tarnished for that team to come back and when one this many years later would be a fun story and they're really really good. My heart of the Dodgers tired of the Dodgers. Yes I am. I'm not. I don't disagree with any of that part of me. Also, even though he's been sort of a punchline at times would like to see Dusty Baker get one right 100% micros one. I was gonna save the Los Angeles Dodgers but after Randy told me that the fixed New York team series part two I would love by the way, I told everybody out of the abyss might have, or because you know how adamantly I am against the Mets and the Boston Red Sox. But if the Mets played Houston Astros in the World Series. It will be the first time since 1986 that I actually cheer for them! Yeah, I know the Yankees and the asters don't like each other now thing that I Dusty reasons I would like to see punctual to World Series me to highlight by love Buck. I'm glad the down the Mets 101 games. There's no reason to keep that they blew it and have gamely they 101 games. I don't see the problem. Braves really good. I think we'll get to see Houston, Atlanta World Series rematch with the other team went in this time, Mike Maniscalco, the voice of the Carolina hurricanes Randy Slack, the voice of Wilmington. I appreciate both of you. I will talk to both of you to Michael C Wednesday night they can. All I got was it was good for everybody thing Mike Maniscalco.

We thank Randy Slack talked little baseball talk little hockey.

Normally we spend all of our time here talking football but baseball playoffs underway official FI think officially berets and guardians played the first game of their series into 19. What is this sorcery of fast-moving was well pitched both starters I believe went seven innings. Actually Cleveland starter Shane Bieber pitched eight it was it was a well pitched game. Both runs were scored on home runs. José Siri so they Dennis Clement forget this right. Tampa asked Siri to hit a home run and he did at the hotspot and then José Ramirez hit a two run home run in the bottom half of that inning. I think both home runs came in the six direct temp Tampa took a one nothing lead top the sixth on a José Siri home run and then José Ramirez with a man on went deep and it was to one that was it. That was all.

The other one like it's either just not a lot action I saw couple good defensive plays of the corner of my eye because we have a game on the in the studio but to I think was to 19 officially was the length of the game and how we got the Cardinals and Phillies on ABC right now and we got two other games left.

We have DJs hosting the Mariners and then later on tonight on ESPN. It's the Padres at the Mets right we should do the best and worst of the NFL and there is a lot of competition for the latter arrived.

We have the with fancy all right to start with the bottom because the bottom is more fun and get all right coming in at number 28 in the NFL. This is fifth worst right we have the Giants the Colts the Bears and Rams all tied for 20th giant the Colts the Bears the rent like there are some good records are the Giants are three will the Colts or to two and one. The Bears are to into the Rams are to into they all stink. Yeah, the Rams just won a Super Bowl, but right now they stink.

And I don't know what the reasons are for the Rams stinking other than the Cooper cup with a throw into Robinson's been a major disappointment. Is he still there is a witness protection think I'm glad I don't have a mana on my fantasy team. Everybody else in life.

It is the Mr. everybody's and I don't care. But the Giants have a beautiful record and a bad football team. Now they are in the Giants are in London to play the Packers Sunday morning on your on your television at 9 o'clock. The Colts won a football game last night because they couldn't give both teams losses the records the rules say that both teams can't lose but both teams deserved to lose yesterday, so that is tied for 20th those those four teams are tied for 20th at number 29 fourth worst the patriots the Steelers the saints and the Broncos.

They also stick all four of them also stick now. I am sorry for your Steelers. I really really love Mike, do you think they're better than that. I think they are. I think they are think Kenny Pickett is going to turn them around that candidacy issue with that stiff, like, but yes I think so yeah unfortunately it's a team right yet so I agree with you.

I think the bigger problem is scheme right what they're what they're trying to do what I like some of the pieces I think they have dynamite receivers and who knows backpack I really don't nobody really knows backpack I love not you Harris. Although he's got injury issues all the time. It seems as Villa nicked this year, asters health difficulties right but I did. I just never saw him like dominate eye because their offense of light is been so just not good right so that's number that's not what what what what I just have bad bells.

29.

I had eight teams fifth worst in fourth worst combined right now we only have one team each okay number 30 Washington commandos.

They're not good for you. It's really funny about the commandos is that Daniel Snyder is blaming previous ownership for the culture of Washington as though we are all stupid and don't remember previous ownership of the Washington franchise because Jack can't cook and his family are you are you see are you trying to blame them. Yeah, this gave been around for over 20 years, the Cook family were really good owners. You, on the other hand, what's the opposite of that stink you. Daniel Snyder is quite possibly the worst owner in all of team sports.

There are people who have had their teams taken away. Robert Sarver will sell the Phoenix Suns Donald Sterling was forced to sell the LA Clippers Jerry Richardson willingly sold the Carolina Panthers. George Steinbrenner was suspended.

There are legitimately there are owners that have had their teams taken from them who aren't even in the same stratosphere as Snyder is as a bad odor if the NFL had a pair they would force him out, but they don't because some of the things that Snyder has been accused of, and is found to do is been found to have done. There's enough of it going on around the NFL where nobody wants dirty laundry aired so they are knocking to kick Snyder to the curb, which is not but remember when Adam Silver said we view it with that.

We talked about this Dennis when Adam Silver said that unit is all it is only so much I can do I can find him. I can take what but once what Silver wanted to do and I contend did work behind-the-scenes was to mobilize an ownership group to say to Robert Sarver. You got a go and that can be done if you're the NFL Roger Goodell could get an ownership group together to say what you gotta go. You put your team on the on the market.

By the way Washington football team would probably sell for $5 billion that Dale Snyder didn't buy it for five but it would it would sell for 5 billion. I that's number number 30, number 31.

The still winless Houston Texans. They are 031.

They have a talk that's true, they drew in their opening match against Indianapolis that the Colts tie in with will be sent to ties was the last time a team at two ties in the record. Gosh I have to admit, now it's worth going back to look at but yet the Texans are noted. I feel bad luck. I feel that lovey Smith is these that got there. I feel bad for that's the job he was left when they're no good and are knocking to be all that good for a while. 32 Hz yeah but the Carolina Panthers were stably yeah sad end of the were stably because they have no offense of hope right now. They have Christian McCaffrey and that's it.

That's about it, just that that is it.

Right now they have some of the good pieces of a DJ Moore's good. Please, but they don't get in the ball itself. What we don't. I roll through my bottom 503 but if okay so 28 for me is Matt Canada. The offer that it stakes guys playcalling is awful NC State fans disagree no to know they agree they are hundred percent of pounding the table. Yeah, that guy think they would take Matt Canada back though. Right now, no really know now to the poll question I number 29 from eight front-office executives who think they can revitalize former first-round quarterbacks because guess what, the only time he somewhat has worked in the NFL. In the last 10 years is right. Daniel rapid really. It was a particular style. You know by sits right on what works.

Yes, that's definitely work for what Tennessee wanted to do yeah have the ball.

Derek Henry all day, exact, and then write Daniel play action just throw a handful good passes. I will say that a lot of I will say jury still out Jerry Goff's put up good numbers for the line you are, but the be put up good numbers for the team as a wedding. Nevertheless, but he's fun. They're fun.

Number three. So this number 30 for me. People who hike the AFC West, the AFC West outside of the cheesesteak you and me yeah you admit I think the Chargers are talented. We say that every year as we know they are but they always they probably have more games missed amongst the stars and anything the right lasting 10 more games lost that they should've one yet the same time you and I were talking about this before the before the show that great quarterbacks in the league. I am hesitant to put Justin Herbert on that list. It might not be his fault. It might be the Chargers as a team might be their fault but I got to see more winning. Adam Justin Herbert before because I knew they got talent. Talent is not the issue got plenty of town.

I need to see more winning from Justin Herbert before I put them on. That was all right. Number 31 for me. Whatever college hires Matt rule that that's number 31 of the NFL for me. Beautiful. Number 32 dead last.

I got going. Nathaniel Hackett just keeps stakes blitzes beyond that guy terrible he is way out of his league. Yeah, but here's the thing.

His father was a respected football coach okay and is white so he's going to get a job right.

Please go to get a job that's a formula until Eddie was that he was in Green Bay so he was there with what's his name Aaron Rodgers won't know that Leflore, who was with had some connection to Kyle Shanahan, Gatwick, Texas, Sean, that's okay. They all they had lunch at Wendy's together. That was enough right now. These were very good. I love your list by the lake. Now the one through 505 through 15. The Dallas Cowboys. So they would all three games with the backup quarterback and I'm not saying the backup quarterback to continue play that's not the point. The point is what is demonstrating is that they have a very good team and they don't need that press got to come back and be a superstar. They just need that Chris got to be good. That's it. Wittwer set the bar pretty low for you – don't screwed up. I think the team can run the ball. They have good position to have good receivers. Have a great defense they can get to the quarterback that was number five, number four Green Bay pipe. I keep hereby Green Bay. There Aaron Rodgers that.that's not good. Yeah you know what will be fun and maybe they won't. But I'm pretty sure that they'll be fine and they're going to play the Giants in London it's football anything could happen if I did the giant steak and I did the back is really good. I get the factors number four number three, the Philadelphia Eagles in the Philadelphia Eagles. The class of the NFC and I'm good have to be proven otherwise by good team. Although analyzer teams and innocent no means cowboys packers box great offense of team timing the Eagles might have a great offense yeah and I love their different number two Kansas City and number one.

Even after a loss.

I had him and even after being down 20 to 3 talking to my wife who's not a Buffalo Bills fan but from that area. She was once what's up with Buffalo Mike. I still think they're great. Even if they're going to get blown out. She says what they feel they they could witness and I probably too far down they came back in one I think those are the best team bills bills. Number one part number five for me at Bailey's Appian Cooper Russ truther's is there loving life right now was no but the people is at all yeah I had that guy great high. By that I do that Cousy was elemental.

He was like yeah he might be a good development quarterback that one to say, those people are.

Love you hey looks yeah right I was yet listen to me then look out right.

I think Kubler Ross is going to get a starting job in the league. Now the moment I actually he's the next Kyle Allen is the next was that Matt Quinn, who is the Packers will Matt Flynn, Matt Flynn, yet baffling packers backup went to Seattle.

Scientists of free-agent contract and they drafted Russell Wilson. We have not seen Lynn since you play.

Maybe one more game to play preseason games and then went and did end up going back to the packers backup like yeah right number for TJ Watt, TJ Watt, the reported way the you know why since he's been drafted.

Students are not want to game when TJ Watt is mistaken.

Yes, everything of exactly everything over to find the one that you put wins and losses on quarterbacks open wins and losses on them on Don TJ Watt, Steelers I want to game or he's missed so they will zap. He went 10 to 15 for 99 yard that completes percentage sufficient if the Rituxan and total care QBR of the 15.9 there see exactly a QBR rating lower than Brian Hoyer the same.

I've never driven them also to the Eagles I think.

But here's my question about Philadelphia can they sustain their level play throughout the whole season's I think you're right now the best version of themselves. They are playing at their peak. Do that for 18 weeks.

The Eagles yes I think there are playing their best version of themselves as opposed to some teams right now who are that will continue to progress and grow during the season. I don't know if they will, I think you have, that's a good point and a smart way to look at the NFL, which is the way I've always looked at it. It's three seasons, there's the start, which can be fools gold yet so I think that there is that possibility with Philadelphia. There they will go through a long as every team will go through a funk. But I think ultimately the way their structured I think they'll come back and I think their game which is based on the run. I think their gable travel and will translate when we get into December and January. Number two. For me the Chiefs that that's because of their offense, but I think they've revamped their defense. Defense is much improved, another one for me is Josh out.shift.

What a dude wanted to see is there offense. He is but letting us because we're running their zero run well outside of him.

I think they have a running a beta they'll have one guy that they rely on, but I think they can run it and they have Stephan Diggs. Dingle is maybe the best wide receiver indicate this is the Adam gold shell