Is NC State football at Clemson football the biggest game in school history?

Have financial capital financial USA.com. This is the Adam gold show the preseason friendly season of the NHL is here in the state of North Carolina polite bank holiday crowded. The arena last night for the games and the uniforms of the Tampa Bay Lightning that many occasional players. I did not realize Hayden Fleury was a light in his own son Aiden Flory got in the score sheet late with a crosschecking penalty with about six seconds to go. Personally big fan of Hayden Fleury is a is really good young man and he's got he's okay a lot of different things, but he just isn't really good at any of them it makes it difficult to crack in NHL lineup, especially one like Tampa, but hopefully can maybe makes the roster maybe reestablishes his game in the minor leagues. I don't know but that you Hayden was. He was there last night but I don't think he was noticeable which is maybe a good thing.

If you are Hayden Fleury anyway. If you are hurricanes fan you know by now that tonight's game at floor at Tampa has been hurricane out to the not going to Tampa for tonight's game.

As of right now the game at Florida on Thursday is on that game. That game is on.

I know this is the Adam gold show. Dennis Cox is we can get really, but I'm glad your senior producer. Yeah, but we thank you for your help last night was fun. It was actually my first time going into the locker room to do a postgame interview since before the band is to have here now done some one on ones with some guys outside the locker room you have special interview well set up but actually postgame in the locker room talk to members there first time since before the pandemic February 2020 yeah, that was the last time we were in the locker room February 2020 amazing how long it is been.

I really didn't think we would go. I didn't think we would get we would go back II thought that the way it worked, which was fairly efficient and controlled by the team. I thought that's the way we were going to stay because it worked. We all survived players. I think secretly, Doug that we weren't in the locker room but I will say this about Mrs. man you have to really care about stuff like this one won't. I will go any longer than like 20 seconds on it's more for us. That is for fans and for us to be able to write some stories will be able to talk about players in certain ways, establishing a relationship is important but I don't know if it really matters to what fans need fans just want to know is my team good on my players good over go to win black done a lot of that they can get from the team directly not to not to minimize our importance, but don't put that out there. I will go back in the locker room because the zoom calls and all of that worked. Bringing players into media rooms worked and many ways that's how it's done other sports right but I'm glad world were allowed back in.

Even though I don't have time to go. I'm glad you were there.

That is, got right we have a bunch things to do a talk.

Go Panthers of the top college football Chip Patterson Wednesday also be peopled by now understand that I'm a pretty big fan of football, American football yes but football and it was a disappointing afternoon. I thought for the United States men's national team last match before the World Cup and they sleep that you put a quote that okay tweet that if I can channel my my inner Dabo Sweeney tweet that are listed hurricanes with three perform the power plant, not counting the six second power play at the end that they weren't ever really going to possess the it's been cured. The power play will have been cured doing conga three power-play cyst the under especially cough Paul Stastny Sebastian home Seth Jarvis even most days. Drywall scored the great name the great name Freddie Anderson was good when he when they needed them to be good but context people Tampa did not bring a representative lineup. Now there were some NHL players search.

It was their turn neck was there. They brought the third line but it was not an agent change will look different in Florida tomorrow night.

They will not bring it will bring a similar theme. The Tampa brought Carolina will bring that team the Florida very similar and will likely get run by a Florida team that will probably play 60 to 70% NHL regulars.

What happens in the preseason play regulars at home and then you travel to Gonzaga to make so you have yet to bring certain number of NHL players, but in a Kabila all right.

We are for days away for long days. We 433 for an orderly account today. Yeah yeah halfway four days away in a sport about Clemson at NC State nationally televised debate. I'm sorry if my friend start. Also over those O's NC State at Clemson you really are.

She could go all the way back to use of these late nights doing cocaine's radio and all that's used to it. See getting you game rep that will give you two game J preseason for me to exactly so, somebody tweeted to me yesterday during aftermath how much they enjoyed it and I said to you sooner.

Are grading this on a curve because I eye my own critique of what I did last night was garbage, garbage will get to it will will get better will get better stick with it.

I start building over. We are four days away now that I've done the math and we know there were actually four days away from the game and it's going to be a long four days. This is a long week estate fans because this is I think you get some confirmation on this note at five minutes or so. I think this is the biggest regular-season game they've ever played.

Forget about rankings. There's a lot at stake here.

This is the aren't that many opportunities in modern college football were not going back to the mid-70s early 80s where you know the ACC was adorable with eight teams. We now have 14 teams played football in the legs a lot of teams and as we have gotten more modern college football.

There's a greater separation within forget about from power. Five.

The group of five FBS FCS within conferences. There is massive separation between the top and the next year and that's where NC state is trying to get there trying to get to work. Clemson is an it's sort of like a mama I've never climbed a mountain but it's sort of like the last bit before you get to the peak is the hardest part. That's were status there trying to get your your now how do I stay on the rock from where we are right here because it looks like I'm going to fall off.

It's just that big a deal. So I wonder if there equipped to handle now a quick conversation about Clemson that will circle back you will hear from some folks about this.

There's always a lot assumed about the Clemson Tigers.

We assume that Clemson is great because there Clemson. Of course, 10 years ago nobody would've assumed 10 years.

It I think the anniversary of the then giving up 70 points of the article West Virginia is either just past or at which this year I was a 2012 season.

Yeah right. Somewhere around that's on 1210 2012 so big again that white team who whoever did make 70 yeah they just got run in the yard will now Clemson was still a developing superpower what they are today is not what they were then. But we assumed that and it took a while to change that perception and now Clemson's reputation elevates who they are. I think Clemson is really good. I don't think Clemson is anywhere close to the top college football. They're not close to Alabama. They're not close to Ohio State or Georgia. I'm not sure anybody else is. I think those three schools of separated themselves.

That's a good conversation for Chip Chip Patterson a little bit later I will get back to the Clemson Tigers in a little bit to make of the NFL through three. Curious about this broad question and less than 20% of the season is been playing so we really can't draw any conclusions about anything, but this is down by about a touchdown again. Why is the quarterbacking been great all think so. Outside of a few no right how many truly great quarterbacks are the first ball let's factor in a ton of injuries to receivers tight ends offense of line right.

We know that we would like tapas got injuries to their offense of line. Dallas is injuries to their offense of line at quarterback and receiver like every team has been like oh my gosh there play without this kind of play.

Without this guide is right so I think injuries have a lot to do with both sides of the ball but I think offense is more noticeable.

Let me just ask this question brought how many great quarterbacks are there in the NFL right now. I mean bona fide great quarterbacks like just the leveler playing at right now like this moments or quarterbacks that you have confidence in being great. Six. It's I think it's a little bit more, but it's not much more than that, Josh Allen, you will more jacks up Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady. They haven't played that way because a lot of it has been injury right but wouldn't shock anybody if both of those guys have started a steep decline based on age. I'm not saying it's happened, but wouldn't shock you.

If it did, but still put them in the great category for and that's it okay of what upstart Patrick about smoke about everybody else you can say plot J, what hurts, it's kind early Cambrian point to a yeah but I don't think we can save it to is great. Now it's off to see more, but she certainly off to a very good start, Justin Herbert, we got word from Justin Herbert, I think we want Justin Herbert to be a certain thing that he looks like he will become, but hasn't yet become lazy or starting center and left tackle, and injuries at receiver and is his own injuries matter. There are there are doubts on so many quarterbacks right now in the league but I will say you'd tell you this definitively more than half of the NH of the NHL. Gosh Marty and talk is more than half of the NFL. More than half guaranteed knows that they have to find a quarterback more than half. That's why we have seen very few great games in the NFL this year hasn't been like a start.

We've seen before has not been all right let me get back to one thing about the Clemson Tigers saw this question today and I thought to be able to get into it deeply enough. But I want be, I want you to hear two clips from ESPN today and then we will circle back and talk about this, probably with Chip Patterson a little bit later on Piers Paul find Bob, this is a question. Can Clemson be in the playoff with the loss and the assumption is the loss I guess would be this week to NC State. Here's Paul find Bob from ESPN where everything is back up and screwed up because the defense is not as good in the offense with DJ is much better and you have to start wondering what the difference has been with Brent Venable having left. He was the stalwart of the defense or cleansing now in Oklahoma struggling thereafter. A lot of the weekends I think that's really the issue greedy and as far as what happens after this they would be in big trouble thinking they would be. I think here's Heather Dittrich from ESPN national college football writer on that topic hanging from a class has fired the entire factory, with half when you watch the game against Wake Forest greedy when I was very good for Clemson and put them in the driver seat in the Atlantic division Wake Forest receivers against Clemson secondary and my question was what Clemson play Ohio State.

That's where I was watching the buckeyes beat up on Wisconsin talk about that issue a little bit later on I will just say this before we bring in a very good friend of mine through four weeks of the college football season.

We all make assumptions without context and that's what college football has become really, it's one assumption preconceived notion after another politics but will get back to that topic in a little bit.

Tim Taylor, my friend.

NC State historian knows more about the history of athletics and probably the University at NC State than anybody I know. Also, is the unofficial mayor of Square North Carolina. Did I say that right Casper correct about that. All right sir, I have been framing this game coming up on Saturday as the biggest regular-season game in Wolfpack history and I'm sure that's wrong but how wrong is it to roll coming I can identify for five other games that may have been more important to NC State.

Over the course of his time in the ACC but you really do have to go back a long way and certainly I would say it is the most important ACC game in she state has never played against the highly ranked, comfortable, tubular zoning is one thing that I added to the Z intro basically what it would when I first thing I asked you was that a few years back. This was during the time of Ryanair. I believe state played Marilyn with a chance to win the Atlantic division.

This is before Dabo right this is BD before dabbler Clemson so they had an opportunity if they beat Maryland you win the Atlantic you go to college you go to the ACC championship game.

I think that was it, and they obviously did not beat Maryland that day. I remember the final score don't recall it being very close but the so that theoretically was a more important game because of the stakes is a time of the year last regular season game with you.

Okay, so that and that that matters. This has a lot of similar ramifications. Although nothing final. Because I've been watching Wake Forest and they look every bit as good offensively as they were a year ago now, but this is the first time they have ever played a regular-season game as part of the top 10 matchup and every all the hype that goes into this game that really didn't exist for the Maryland game. Does this elevated above everything else that they've ever really got into 16 games played between two ACC opponents were both parenchyma talk. This will be the 17th. Over the course of 70 years, but the pretty big deal offer NC State never played to talk to the opponent while right, talk to him though there were three other games where similar ranking. The combined ranking between the two teams which is 15 for this game were similar Duke in 1957 the rankings were 15 Nebraska in 1973 and she state route and the rest will both request to efficacy state was number 16 and then the first time interested ever played Florida State as a ACC opponent Horsley was number two. Interesting was number 19 ugly was it 1992 fax 30 years for a game that even approaches and how much do you think the sport of college football has changed in just the last 30 years. While I will say since that season. There are more than twice as many teams of the word ACC before forsaking him into it or almost one most closely acutely close but changed things to change a lot in the last two years. The last time the ACC is the top 10 teams facing each other, which happened twice in 2020. So the other if there's anything we know college football changes all the time to dealers joining us here on the item go to attack tubular on Twitter 16 top 10 ACC matchups ever that correct that somewhat alarming but I shouldn't be alarmed by it because we understand and the reputation of this league has been yeah it's okay it's okay for football and the to the real problem has been that the football brands if you will, in the league just do not have have not seem to be good at the same time. Whether it's Clemson, whose IQ reminding people of this, but until 10 years ago Clemson was almost perennially disappointing like that date. They wanted to be better than they actually were. And that was for them. You know, other than a couple pockets here and there I was at their national championship game against Nebraska in whatever year that was 1980, 1981 I was at an important point.

That was the first time an ACC team had ever or two ACC teams have ever been ranked in the top. Clemson was number two.

One facing number eight North Carolina Clemson won that game went on to win the national trick which are the only game in the first 45 years of the history of the ACC two teams in the top 10 have faced each other all in a regular-season game from the ACC. It took that long for the ACC to establish itself.

Clemson is the team that established the ACC is a national brand but it was a little force they got here in the 90s league really elevated itself to have multiple teams, it could even have the opportunity.

It's it just did this to me is not about whether or not state has elevated it's almost about whether the ACC like this is routine for the SEC routine year in and year out. They have multiple games in the top 10 against each other. It's almost a sort of routine for the for the Big Ten to routine for me to have such games.

This basket just like to give you a long line of where you put your resources and your brand and what you wanted people to talk about people leave for the longest time still is but you don't. It is been proven and is factually able to say, gotta choose how you want to do these things and the expansion was all about building entry ACC brand in football while someone ceding some of its brand in basketball to be able to build its football drama converts were, frankly, the television money is used to be 50-50 basketball use to use the equal football. In terms of revenue. Now it's at last look.

It was a 20 it might be 9010. At this point I will say we haven't mentioned it yet, but the most important game ever played by Nancy state its football history. Words in 1967 at Penn State, where an interest rate was a high strength.

It's ever been. Conflict was not right, but as it was number three there were nine and so had they won that game. They have one more game left at Clemson always had to do was score from inside the 1 yard line in the fourth quarter against Penn State and Tony Borchert was not able to get him on the remote talk about it will tell you to this day that he was then backed her foot and 1/2 interest rate could very well have been one of the teams in the con conversation for our national chair given 1967 they lost that game they went down the Clemson they lost that game on the liberty bowl when in the first postseason game and have one of the best seasons in school history. It was that Penn State game that will forever be the most important game ever played until we can historically prove the outcome of this weekend game changes that would be nice when you said to Chuck about all I could think of was Philip Rivers trying to run it in at Ohio State and then TA McClendon at Carolina which was a game that somehow is not televised Tim Taylor NC State historian. I appreciate you providing context to some of the thoughts that have been going through my head. Over the last several days. Appreciate your time. I'll talk to person.

The front anytime you got a Tim Taylor at pectin Taylor on Twitter. Nobody knows more about NC State athletics that I did that I know and I thought he would add some context.

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