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Who will be returning to the Carolina Hurricanes this offseason?

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June 10, 2022 2:47 pm

Who will be returning to the Carolina Hurricanes this offseason?

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June 10, 2022 2:47 pm

Luke DeCock of the News & Observer joined Adam Gold to discuss the upcoming offseason for the Carolina Hurricanes, including Vincent Trocheck, Martin Necas, and others.

Also, sports betting picks for the weekend by Adam & Dennis.

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Yeah, that lightning fan out cold. Probably was halfway there anyway. Judging by the way, that person was walking but any still be you can call Cox somebody like that but I believe that's been a crime was committed. Yeah a legit crime was committed.

Whether jail time will follow for something like that. I don't know I don't outspend work, but that was a criminal act so meets assault all the there was a criminal act sort of Aki criminal act merely committed by Jacob Tribble amid a self edit here.

Did you see the trooper yeah attempted elbow to Andre Pallotta. Oh yeah in the third quarter, third quarter. Geez, what a dope third.

The third inning at the top of their house bottom of the third is really the bottom of the my God skews me to. But I just can't that's going on.

Everyone is absolutely on everyone. If you Jacob. Trooper first.

Will that if you Jacob Tribble. We know Jacob Tribble was about.

Yeah, we knew he was about what the max don't make it at all the freaking apologizing by NHL people.

Well, you know, Dolby is going down and look at the freaking video Donnie's hands level never changes. Jacob trooper because the target was put onto unmatched domains back by match dummy at the end of game three. All of these things are true. Max told me did something stupid. At the end game. Three he went after Ryan Lindgren crosscheck them in the back like no need for that.

I totally agree with Gerard Gallant after the after the game, so Max told me to go to target and Jacob Tribble took the opportunity to pay max don't me back lined them up and did exactly what he intended to do exactly what he intended, he launched into Max told me and all of that finish through the head.

That was the point of contact necessarily to the head. No, but it was pretty close.

Any finish through that and he lined them up. It was obvious, but the hurricane did that of shorthanded there because Stephen Lawrence came in and was given the instigator penalty. Meanwhile, Jacob Tribble also crosscheck Lawrence in the face that was not called. You wish they were better wish the officials were better. They weren't. But the bottom line is Jacob trooper is a dirty player and we talked to Ken Danica three times daily cup champion from the New Jersey Devils. Now with the NHL network and he says Jacob trooper is the best in the NHL in making the guilty look innocent Bethany NHL at and I agree.

Troopers always been that player did to Sidney Crosby did it to Max told me a I actually said this during the during the playoffs. I thought this at this hit on Seth Jarvis was legit. I did not think that hit was bad. I didn't. And of course it ion under sin came twitter losing their minds when when I said I thought that was fine. I've spoken to people within the hurricanes organization. All agree it was fun, can't do anything about that. That's part hockey but trooper tried to get Andre Pallotta yesterday. Pallotta just ducted his head was up and he saw it coming and he went under it, but the NHL won't do anything because trooper didn't actually make contact and you can't get somebody on attempted penalty. Although you should anyway that was my my Is great and I think the close it out tomorrow in game six of home is Tony Larissa too old. That was our winter Dennis I mean what the answer is yes yeah yeah that's the answer. What is what. Why was Tony Larissa hired yeah like the White Sox. Why was he even so, this doesn't have to be about walking Trey Turner and one to count with first base open in the sixth inning of again the trail by one doesn't have to be about that and I said this earlier one. The worst thing I've ever seen. It just wasn't was the worst thing ever seen in baseball.

I mean I think it's not the right play but I also don't think it's necessarily egregiously bad mean. I said this earlier if I were Larissa I wouldn't go up there saying one to an account. Blah blah blah. I would simply say Max Muncy sent 160 Trey Turner sitting 300. I've got a base open and another run in scoring position I'm in. Take my chances with a 160 header that that would be the better answer going to 12 counted blow would left it now man don't do that. Don't do that right but just saying mean Trey Turner is the reigning batting champion the National League is at 300 that would've been a much better answer for Tony Larissa. But the. The answer to the question is Tony Larissa too old yes that's I think badly answer my big thing is that we've taken the nuance of the baseball out it's gone it in terms of everything is just determined by number now what's the point of even having the manager for just a look at a spreadsheet determine what you're going to do next.

For example, when the raise of the daughters point in the World Series.

Your best pitcher on the mound in a must win game, but analytics told you know I got to go to my bullpen.

Now that's my best picture I don't have any more – right yes and Blake Snell outline for Blake's nobody is my things there are hundred percent right. But here's my thing is that whatever happened to I have a one to count on a header like okay sitting 300 okay, great. But I'm still the 70% chance of getting the dune out. It's a great I get Muncy whatever you want to college I don't essentially water just get analytics just taking over the game the point where there is no more game you are absolutely correct about this because here's the better play sire, you lose fan again.

I don't think it's the right play. If talk to me the mistake Tony Larissa really made was making it about. He's this with a wanted to count all of that right because putting the guy on is not my move. You know what the move is always wanted to count. I have first base open my picture does not have to make a pitch that you can I can throw three more balls out of the strike zone and try to get you to chase a bad pitching's and get yourself out. That's what I can do. Tony Larissa apparently didn't didn't trust his picture to do that so we put them up there against the guy.

It went out the other way again. Max Muncy careerwise better against left-handed pitching than right-handed pitching. I'm sure that somewhere on Tony Larissa spreadsheet, but maybe it was in fine print, and he didn't have his reading glasses cozies up billion years old.

I just now thing is I give a one to college I go get them out right and again first base open gives you the luxury of not having to throw a pitch in the strike zone to get them out and again we look at analytics and analytics have hurt baseball more than they have helped baseball analytics have given us.

Oh home runs are way better than singles which they are but always going for the home run has given us home runs, strikeouts and walks the three true outcome game that we have now. So we have lower batting averages we have more run fewer balls put in play the games slower.

There is no good is no with baserunning.

There's no really put stress on the picture or defense right out of the open up a gap between the first baseman of the second baseman for hit fruit. I don't does that anymore right.

We like the games just ruined my opinion this is where baseball is going to die out and continue to fizzle out Lee cut out of this look to Crockett while talking to fizzle. I think it will. I would I'm dummy but there's there's no the fan base for baseball guilder. It's exactly but you're not building any sort of young faith-based because this is what your dreams become. We'll see if that continues.

I actually think that were going to start seeing more and more I think we already are starting to see more more young people who are into it based on some of the athletes that we now have in the game. But one thing analytics have given us, which is good for baseball less bunting what you like bunting, why not Lisa. Fewer runs what you like your aunt, you interviewer out. I like nuance and straddle. I am again I get there. There are times where where the bunt is acceptable, I might say the right move, like the sacrifice but I'm talking about not bunting for basic or suicide squeeze associates with him that those are fun of those voting place more phone plays a sacrifice, but there's nothing fun about a sacrifice, but in fact East Carolina sacrifice pointed in the first inning did not score as a result, nobody out man offer sacrifice one euro to got three runs in a current address can't, I would. I would not back if my coach told me to do that. I'm sorry you can have this on out.

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You have things figured out that no one else to match her in 2022 1983.

Animals were not were not there now. When an ugly know you have Ron Kendall to run out there anymore because he did just doesn't have those guys he was better when he had, you know, Maguire is very pro-Maguire when he had Maguire and Sosa resource's Conseco and in all of those guys in Oakland and the great pitching standards.

B was much better when he had that Eckersley out of the bullpen was. I mean it's it's not the same. The White Sox were better before he got there, I asked you if he was too old because we were. I was just talking about Tony Larissa very very short answer for that, and we managed 5000 not at all what I was prepared to suck you but I won't look let's let's get to to ice real quick. We had exit meetings last week.

In this guide said this and they want to return everybody wants to return. Hurricanes have 10 free agents unrestricted restricted. There are really four major ones.

Tony D'Angelo Martin natures vintage church Eric Meno need a writer if wanted to throw 1/5 one in there and say Ethan bear out of the keys major of those first four. How many do you think are back and what do you think the numbers I think to to our back and I'll tell you I think church is gone. I think he's going after the brass ring and that's fine. You know you made the offer cheaper you spare a cookie at me with the theory that he would eventually be a toxic center.

I don't know that he's ready yet, but you can either do a stopgap fill of the church at all or roll the dice and cookie at me and hope he's ready to take a huge leap forward. The other one is 20 D'Angelo. It's been such a good fit for him here. He's got a really really weird arbitration case I don't think he has nearly as much leverage as people think he does. Just because of it would be a it would be an absolute Gong Show and arbitration hearing with the guy was bought out all that all the things that that delivered him here so I think it would be smart for both Tony and hurricanes to find a deal that keeps them out of arbitration. I think in arbitration hurricanes come out smelling like a rose. Because there's nobody you can compare him to give in his up-and-down history.

So I think he has less leverage than most people do, so that those would be my one and one. I think Nina will be back.

I think what you're installing. And yes for cost. He may not be the goalscorer he was earlier in his career, but I think he's establish that he can be a legit two-way forwarders got some size. I see he did not score in the class that many people did but he's capable of getting and I think probably the questionnaire as you and I talked class can end up being firm and sort of you'll can you get a deal that doesn't ask you, in your corner.

I think two years maybe for me to write her a reasonable price make sense for him make sense for the hurricanes. If you willing at this point is career transition in the sort about from a toxics to a top Martin natures the things he said coming to the publicly coming on the exit interview that you feel he and Robin Morella same page and he wants to play center like this guy working him on the tee box and it was insane know, I know delete still had horny ages on a PowerPoint not a single other coach delete and then come out and you want to play center when you your your barely doing your job at weighing you that this is a guy who yes we pick a morning ages because his upside ceiling is all I but I feel like we reach the point with him and and maybe we had before the season where it's time for a change of scenery that I just don't know that it worked for him.

Here is we didn't see any of the moments in the class that we saw last year against Nashville where he was going. He took over the game. It took over a sequencing change the game. It was a complete nonfactor of just 0.0 Gutowski. Now this is he's probably got more despite his he's probably got more trade value than he did a year ago because his case for new contract is so weak now basically took care of it or want people that's their decision. I would do it but I'm not and I shouldn't be, they can get Marty Asia sign for Christ that is not what they were preparing to pay him a year ago. That is also going to make them attractive to other teams because he's knocking to come at the price. Quite frankly, that a guy who was drafted, where he was should be at this point in his career he's not there is a player. He's knocking to be there is a contract either. That's my two into an rising but I'm I agree also want to into, but I disagree with one of them.

I actually don't think Nino or Truax check will be back. It be great if true if if Nino project. Definitely not, but if Nino would accept like no 8 1/2 over to and yeah but I don't. Nino's probably going to get a little bit more than that on the open market is just a guess. Maybe he won't. And if that's the case becomes back on a cheap two-year deal than that would be great.

I actually think that natures I don't know what kind of value he has is a one as a standalone and a deal when I don't think they can get a first round pick in return for not a good one.

So and I think that if you're going to use them either have to use them as part of the deal to bring back something significant or you're hoping to recoup a first round pick, and I don't know that either is you have to throw in a lot more with natures to get something significant back. My understanding is that first bite tried to sign them in the office last off-season, often pretty good deal. He wanted to roll the dice and shoot for the moon. What scratch the cough was getting. And it obviously did not work.

I like natures may be on a two-year deal that made maybe pays him an average of about three 3 1/2 and I think that may be the comfort of having two years gets you more in natures and they could just let them play center in the preseason.

They know is he can be a good wing claimant. Claimant center in the preseason and let them say it, let them but I'm sure what he can do and if you can play center, then they have options and they can put him as a second line center and play Coke and AME as 1/3 and plays stall is 1/4 but I also think the judge or is to be part of this mix. Anyway, D'Angelo.

I think Tony will be back and I think the number will be less than people would expect for somebody who was it about .8 points per game this year and actually was almost at one point per game for a good chunk of it until the last month or so, when Tony didn't really have a good April and a good series against Boston didn't have a good series against the Rangers and that we have somebody to make God to to be mad at.

If Martin natures his back by my feeling and he kisses.

Yes, the hurricanes, the problem of we have an issue with natures.

The salary solid so that I'm so lost you I but I just feel like morning ages was going to be the player that we seen flashes of consistently is going to be a toxics center is going to be a toxics goalscoring winner. We would've seen it in his contract year like that was the time usually for Andre Whittington in Andre's contract year. We can see Goodyear yeah but you have less time in the league right you know this is a player morning ages has been given every opportunity great.

I just don't see it at this point I maybe I'm wrong.

I think you there's issues to discuss. Especially common: what is there ceiling for real. I don't know morning ages. The ceiling is I just don't know at this point I let me ask you. I know your horseracing guide to Belmont. We did not have the Kentucky Derby winner rich strike in the Preakness.

I actually don't even know who won the Preakness which is sad but once we didn't once rich strike was running it I wasn't paying attention. I have a pick for the Belmont but I want to hear what you have to think about the Belmont rich strike seems like a be a great pick with the way close the Derby shot out of a cannon.

The last furlong.

Would you like it Belmont Park Barber Road, early voting in the Preakness, brother and I Very nice so I know we know what you news has any of the rich strike in the Derby like voice training, I think you got a decent running style for this race have some concerns about whether the pace will fit him, but it 10, one which he was at one point dancing with what it's going down to today. Jan Maddox of the horses that are taking money rich strike.

We the people I'm not as big a fan of my carburetor value pretty good horse.

We the people just for current events, scissor gray doors no body. I mean that if you picking horses based on name just that's a good way there a better way you're picking the Derby based on names Michael Landon on Rick strike so the Preakness also very topical yet know III like Barber Road. I think that's where I would go in the Belmont hour. If I were a gambling man final thing Duke ahead of the curve when it comes to hiring essentially a general manager. A manager of an IL for their basketball players John Scheier, this recruiting is certainly not an issue. They seem to be ahead of the game when it comes to these types of things yeah yes and no. I think yes there are ahead of the game of where things are going to have a good sense any part of that I think is when you're talking to the top of the top elite level recruits on a daily basis you get a sense of what they're thinking and so you can adjust your strategy accordingly. After that's true for Kentucky and UNC Kansas as well.

You really can have a finger on the pulse of what you're oh what does recruits are thinking with that generation is thinking and escaping a private school. Unlike the other schools I mentioned, they can go on right away. It's not a state employee position reading John walk so the flipside is as we get deeper into the an IL error I would get in the collectives and things like that you I think there's another Duke is sort of been able to elide the philosophical question of duties one and done, spit with the East Coast of an elite academic institution as it does having athletes who are not necessarily a degree track of the certainly some of them to come back and gotten their degrees is that what we want to do is I think an IL schools like Stanford nor Northwestern maybe Notre Dame you have to ask yourself is this why we are we are participating in college athletic.

I think that's going to be more of an issue for schools like Duke and Stanford and other sort of academically oriented FCS school are FBS schools that it would be for your big state of Michigan or what.

How is it different to me. Michigan is a great school.

Caroline is a great school. Virginia is a great school they happen to be state institutions. I was in a different the bigger one thing and in the competitive athletics is is more revenue driver. I think when you get to the mission of these academic institutions that think of themselves as academic institutions. First and foremost not as land-grant institutions, not as as statewide universities. There becomes a sort of question of is is this why we got into this note it in and what I must hundred percent Pro when I hello you know that we talked about it. I think it's great that that even though the implementation is been weird.

I think it's great the players are getting a piece of this high initiative years ago, but I do think when you get into the question of what is college athletic supposed to be in the NCAA has lost control of that entire discussion. I think there are people on the academic side may raise a hand itself landing on the schools that could happen: I don't like that could happen and should happen from the academic side everywhere because nobody hack look. We'll have to go back that far.

20 years ago 22 years ago, the ACC doled out $9 million in shared revenue to their then nine member institutions in in 2000, the number was 9 million per school. That was tops that was ahead of the SEC.

Nobody foresaw this is where we would be which is if we were still at a normal level where it wasn't a billion-dollar industry. We probably wouldn't be having any of these conversations because it would be more along the lines of college sports. But it's not. It's these are now all theater systems for the pros and their major moneymakers. This everything is just different.

It just has to be looked at differently. That's what but I think it's the it's the live sewer day if you want to go. I want to watch a zero interest in watching about about 30 minutes of it yesterday. It was, it looked like golf to me. I just didn't look any different. I am not any kind of PGA Tour loyalist, but I'm just I'm so anti-live to were Newcastle United. All of this works watching stuff that I as far as I'm concerned.

The great thing about it is, is the nonsense that comes out of people like Phil and I don't hate Bryce is much as some people do whatever Patrick reads wife on twitter. All that stuff if you can compartmentalize it, put it over there it's fine I think would grant McDowell said was unconscionable. Some of what golfers have said reading the talking points is the task and sick. The inability to process where the monies coming from in front of pretended to know what all the greedy people are greedy and if money is what really matters to you then go crazy don't know that that's not how I would approach it is not I think the PGA Tour like we talked about last week needs to change in response to a certain extent that's probably long overdue and you need to create more guaranteed money.

You need to create more of a softer landing for guys at the top while still creating that ladder to get from the Korn ferry to work to the two words of the FedEx cup classic.

You can do all that without destroying the tour you just kinda have to break away from some of the things that that place wrong time at the PGA Tour can do that and is is you and I talked about these guys in the live tour.

They're not getting world golf ranking point next summer when they got to go to Rockville and sectional qualifier for the opening or go to Aberdeen the qualify for the British. They're gonna have a hard time. It it's it's good for the guys who are already establishing already done their thing, but it's not good for the up and comer it just to accept financially which maybe that's all they care about, look the talk of the news and Observer appreciates on talking. It's Friday sir I met with Dr. June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Carolina listen my the Los Angeles Angels snap their something team game losing streak and show how Tommy hit a home run yet it's the day so you once again runs believe. Was it the second or the third one of the game for East Carolina. They just tacked on another one that's Morel.

He just went yards.

It was world before it is now 72 pirates there in the for fitting having a good old time. So here I have what almost there. Almost into the black. Compared to where I was and that yes thing I've actually of the last week have gone about +700 absolutely your your completely on fire rights or let's place bets.

I bid +2 2995.

-1740 and still way better than you were. So let's go give me your lacrosse backhoe. They are because you sure we are tonight with a chrome over the redwoods with the wind redwoods have some injuries hammer in my guy McKay Montgomery looked. Trust me, I like the guy like I like Miles Jones but too many injuries on defense of other midfielders including Sergio Berkowitz, Anthony DeMeo was guys are out John Sexton's defense given the chrome over the redwoods and parlay that archers over action for the arch plan today I messed that one up, but given the archers as well. The wind today over the chaos I see Ms. Rebecca archers over chaos, +265 okay so it's archers over chaos chrome over read word redwoods. Yes, I'll be there tonight, +000.

Try your hand down right there headed down for that.

So you'll know right away, +265 excellent all right you weigh five nations league every day on based have to do it man, what a grudge match this is Ireland, Scotland oh, Ireland, Scotland, will match me a draw at +195 okay all right second one I have here PLL tomorrow in Charlotte. I will be there for you there. These games I have add something tomorrow evening here in Raleigh. Second, give me the Atlas in the cannons going over 24 1/2 okay right over 20 4/2 and giving the whip snakes -1 1/2 goals against the water dogs +27. I like Atlas and cannons. That's a very to eventually match up the whip snakes and water dogs I think are the same thing, though far from it. I think that this is far from it could be the gist of whip snakes sound like something that lives in water. Okay.

And that's where water dog. I I don't okay you all. I'll take your word for it just markdown wins now. I will not be able fax check. I will not be able to tell you a different II I've got tomorrow's hockey game.

Tampa Bay is going to wrap this sucker up. I'm tempted to go as far as to pick a final score of telling all of you to do that to take Tampa, minus a goal and 1/2 at +155 okay Tampa Midas agon amp is 155. I don't hate them right USC 275 this weekend flyweight championship in the women's division Valentina Shevchenko give me away, and by TKO knockout or DQ for Shevchenko +180 against Taliesin.

Is this the same fight that happened the last three weeks. No same fight that I did pick someone last week to win by you. You. You pick a UFC fight at basically every Friday yeah and I've won a majority of them didn't Shevchenko just fight. No, no, no, they'll fight every week now. Okay, I think they should addition fight every week. I Jimmy Steph Curry have a double double tonight.

Okay, Steph Curry, double double, and +800 man.

I'm hoping that'll get a lot of assists I think. I think Boston still waiting on what the odds are for dream undreamed of double digit point not get from +18,000 pipers were out of what they are. This is the atom gold shell June 19, 2006, but all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Carolina listen my