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Evaluating off-season ACC Basketball with Luke DeCock

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June 17, 2022 2:48 pm

Evaluating off-season ACC Basketball with Luke DeCock

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June 17, 2022 2:48 pm

Luke DeCock of the News & Observer joined to discuss ACC basketball, including Duke basketball, UNC basketball, and NC State basketball. Plus, conversations about the US Open, the Golden State Warriors beating the Boston Celtics to win the NBA Championship, and Steph Curry.

Also, sports betting picks for the weekend by Adam & Dennis.

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We always allow you to decide what we talk about 1 o'clock 919-860-5326 you want to chime in. The choices were first warriors dynasty second is stamp a top 10 all-time player third Stanley Cup finals game to is it a must win, and the U.S. Open round to and right now I could tell you that in the clubhouse, Scotty Scheffler and Nick Hardy are both at three underpar. I don't know who McCarty is Scheffler.

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There's a bunch players at three bunch players at two and Rory McElroy who was one of those players at 300 parties often about 20 minutes, the number one choice is Steph Curry is a top 10 player so to me this is not controversial and it is competitive when you are talking about the absolute upper crust of the greatest players that ever lived. Now we just what we celebrated the NBA's 75th season this year so they had an all time NBA team. Steph Curry is obviously on it. Top 75 players this actually I think they went to 76 my short because when ESPN ranked those players and they rank Steph 16th and argue even though I have a much higher than that but because there is sold are so many rude to carelessly great players is not just basketball menu could do that for any sport me try to put together an all time starting nine for baseball, knock yourself out. Ruiz Ruth on it is Aaron on it is Maison it is Clemente on it. I just get some nuts like how you've narrowed the Mickey Mantle will be there so many amazing players that it's really hard by a pattern we forget Barry bonds light can even can even narrow it down so in the NBA's same way but I think Steph Curry is inside the top 10 and would probably annoy people if I told you that your favorite player who might not be Lebron or Michael or magic if your favorite player wasn't in top 10 mine my list may not be your list, but Steph Curry.

I have seventh all-time. I think there there are certain things first. Did he change the game. Yes, Steph Curry in the middle of last decade changed NBA basketball forever. We have players today always had three point shooters always had you go back to the 80s and we had three point shooters there and then we you know them. Reggie Miller and Ray Allen and we've always had three point shooters for what we have now are three point shooters that don't need to be anywhere near the line, and Curry was the pioneer of that and now we got Damien Mueller or Trey Young know these guys who do not need to be close to the three-point line to be in range leather shoes from the bench it does and Curry mean we saw in this series, Curry pulled up I mentioned this the other day game in game four. Rather, game five in which Boston really defended him well. Curry was frustrated and was so looking to shoot before the defense got there that he actually not in transition but just coming up the court. It wasn't a transition opportunity.

He decided to shoot before the defense would pick him up. It was essentially on the logo and it's in San Francisco at the Chase Center of the warriors new home. The logo is not big, but he was shooting from the logo is like a 40 footer crazy and did that a couple time you shot went but he's got that kind of range and he change the game but it's not just that Curry is an elite finisher around the basket.

Is he a dunker, no. But did you watch if you watch the series you saw Steph. Steph knows and understands the angles and how to get shots off around bigger players just an incredible player and while he's not an elite defender. He's an elite leader and an incredibly clutch player great teammate.

All of that simply one of the best handful of players with ever seen in the Lakeside guy got mad at Kobe.

I have met of the ramps that was that. That was the conversation this year talking about just individual skills that has to translate to something and I think Curry's individual skills have translated to winning as well as anybody's really ever but does he have as many titles as Russell or Michael or for Kobe. No, but Curry's been just absolutely amazing talking about this for a couple weeks. I think his where we we think back on those two Warriors team that won the title with Kevin Durant is the finals and beeping and Masters numbers. Durant was a big wheel of their big score a great player not knocking the rent and nothing is one trick pony.

But those were those were still Steph Curry steams his work there and they were Curry steams he to me.

He is the reason that the warriors have four titles, other other things to get to.

Let's let's leave the. The warriors talk out for second talk very quickly and begin to get into this look to talk in a few minutes Stanley Cup finals game two tomorrow the the lightning fell in overtime in Colorado. It was a joke, really. But is it a must win dentist you think it's a must win for somebody for Colorado law to see for God is blessing you want to do is go even into Tampa Bay's neocortical table would have home ice advantage over the next five games. Temp is a different team on their ice absolutely. I think if if Tampa wins tonight. Don't be shocked if they dig through one seriously. I will I will be shocked and I think they would take a 31 series.

It'll be interesting, what, what happens when we get to place your bets at 140 50 if if we support the Colorado Avalanche in this game to be Colorado in terms of skaters. They have the better team will see if Tampa plays little bit better but Braden point plays a little bit better in game two point seen the little anxious, a little antsy to me in game one but I just at some point hundred Slutsky imposes his will in the Sears. That's what I think will likely happen when they get back to soon. This would be a big deal for the Colorado Avalanche to get this to get this with golden studio in Monaco speed the router with the capital financial advisory group. We are talking retirement coach. Let's say I have more than $1 million balance in my 401(k) revelations that determine how connect actually come back and bite me because this is something that we did we get the Mirage received the Rogers of the desert before you see what's what. Her head was not there when your financial garage is thinking that that total balance in your 401(k) diary is yours. We have two people to want to get a hold of her two uncles buckled North Carolina and Uncle Sam write both of you to do some damage to the balance depending on what kind of other income you have lose 40% of your value. So if you're looking at a million-dollar IRA because we were 6000 you. So how do we get around as we don't get around it could end up in jail. If you try to do what you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The text train is coming out and we need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of a financial accountant for the next 10 people will do it at no cost or obligation. Put together your very own tax and retirement plan 800-661-7383 or text Adam to 21000B to route right before we place our bets announce their retirement yesterday. Sue Bird really at the end of this WNBA season. She is done.

I'm not sure there is anybody with a better resume than Sue Bird for time, WNBA champion, 12 time All-Star first time all first-team five-time Russian league champion five-time Euro league champion, two-time NCAA champion five-time Olympic gold medalist four-time world but is she top 10 yes actually. In retrospect, put neurotic kicking Wilt off all gates at zero word is number 10 all time. All right, I was placed bets but is you do yesterday. I want one of my two beds for events so you only lost I lost 80 it was that it is not bad. I lost 80 now. I was very disappointed that I had Steph Curry heading at least three three-pointers in the first half year to get to two of three and I had so like six minutes left in the second quarter of my all were getting 1/3 one of course looking to go on this run never got no intercourse in the following minute. 15 they took democracy, got clipped of Ron desires something I think we came out for little bit never went back harsh. I think of 11 when the Hartford 15 or more points and had the warriors of plus money because riots slide on use or right you go, you go first.

I went to Colorado this weekend. The Colorado mammoth National Lacrosse league championship game. Colorado mammoth versus the Buffalo bandits give me the name of that +140. I have no idea who that is but you do the mammoth.

That's a very underused animal nickname. The mammoth it's extinct exactly the author all right. I will do a prop on tonight's hockey game so very nice, like a prop hello props Dorsey Kemper and Andre Bessel Lipsky, each to allow at least 2 1/2 goals. Okay I +230 so high-scoring maybe similar to what we saw in game 1+230 each to allow at least 2 1/2 goals. Okay, I'll go with it, is go to UC fight night this weekend as you always do fight I still don't know if you want any of these have one them actually have one.

Several of them have I UC fight night Donald's roads, a lightweight batch of Donald's Roney versus Joe Elizondo was on his actually been out of UFC since I think that's obvious is FedEx first bite since late 2019 right so he's been out of action for a while though Cerrone is a little bit of losing streak himself. I like Cerrone. He's the favorite but I have him winning by KO, TKO or disqualification of +165 Cerrone love all of that you know everything was earlier this week I got the lightning at plus money at +160 yeah now it's a +210 give it to me again all I was thinking about take that, but I might I might jump on it if they lose the game… Capital just did to get a ride that all right.

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All right, what you do yeah absolutely so I have two games in a take on the money line I will parlay them together right Atlas play the whip snakes tomorrow at 845 Atlas look like the best team in the league and the archers play the canons on Sunday at 1 o'clock canons still might be without the best player in the league. And while Thompson to give me the archers winning on the money line and also the Atlas of the whip snakes on the money line those two wins parlay together +144 Atlas whip snakes can be a great match that honestly will be a great game. No question about all right, I'm going to take the Chicago wolves tonight is tonight not receipt whenever the going minor league HL called a cop. I know we are going minor-league hockey, lacrosse, urinal minor league hockey give me the Chicago wolves at the Carolina hurricanes top minor-league affiliate minus going to half against the Springfield whatever the Springfield czar, so the wolves might as yet. Maybe the wolves might is going to have to night at +120.

Go to join us. We come back commuters and observe next June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen my words were in the second wave the afternoon wave players out of the course. Lori McElroy saved par save farming.

He made par along.

He drove in the left rough so give himself pretty good look at Bernie didn't make it, but ultimately made par and he is at 300 par he is two shots behind somebody named Karen an Englishman playing on the Korn ferry tour, who is at 500 par today. Not for the day, but is five under.

He was 300 yesterday so is 200 today. Lori McElroy is I just hit the second green a long par three. The green in regulation so we'll see if he can roll in about 25 footer for birdie or she makes par and whatnot scoring looks like it's pretty similar yesterday to talk of the news and Observer joins us on the uncle Joe as he does every Friday. Do you think that you and I can talk about the U.S. Open without mentioning that other thing the Gulf emirate thing.

Yes I I've tried to make it special last couple of days a blank free zone because I like I needed a break. Forget about whether the listeners needed a break. I needed a break from having you just consume my every thought. So what are your thoughts so far on the U.S. Open through around and 1/2 I grilled for MJ Depew Trumper not get his name wrong.

I was joking with another writer that it's actually Duffy.B yeah I get that but yeah that's all that were in different names for the wine everything yet.you know it's just I want the unit guide to have him grind and work their way out of Avenue push that at the same sort of conversation with with Ryan Blom lives in Raleigh now played at Duke at the at the Rex you know a guy who worked his way up on the mate is to work hard, got her lofted and is now trying to play his way back on the URL. I love the story a look succeed and was talking with another writer about it if you could get if you get Duffy across the cut line that would be great for my drafting team this week and I okay and he replied like a big story about them two years ago and it's just a great story and he got a terrific year on the corner love seeing him play this well and no my brothers in a big cut survivor will reaching lower to pick it up. Yes, Lori, white shirt with the Celtics logo on the back yesterday which didn't help him, or the Celtics. By the way, I think it was the Shamrock command virus, but, yes, no, it was a Celtics logo Celtics in the back in the maybe I'll know maybe about it meant like you know the Scottish Dockerty Kelly Kelty gets right, the down Duffy by the way, finished 100 par so he is going to make the cut.

My guess is that the cuts can end up being four might even be five over depending on what the weather does in the windows in half in the afternoon Harold Barnaba for work he does have some work to do. Who was your pic going into the week. Don't be afraid to tell me that your pic was this guy did tolerant or whatever his name is Noel about our know why I was on the record Wednesday with with Samberg and around 300 par 67 today Scottish and the 300 par 67 to yet.

He's been an ER doctor want to couple time. Your buddy if you like the kinda guy was ready when his first major he put himself in a good position. The first two days yet know I was I was I was on the record on this when I feel pretty good about it.

I don't know if you can a win or not, but you like to certify like Sam Bernstein so I talked a lot about the warriors and Steph Curry today just your thoughts on, let's stay in the present before we kind of expanded where your thoughts on this series and what Golden State was able to do the Boston point out in your in your building on Monday. Constantly yes you are with Joe and we talked about because at that point it was very much anyone.

You very much up in the air and I said what I think.

I think the warriors are in the wind and you know why neither the Tampa Bay Lightning of the pages they know how to where I think the Celtics are probably more talented. I think they played better, a kind of anger probably other thing and stuff and maybe Clay more explosive, but once that series got to where it was then I just felt like the warriors know how to get more winds from here and they're going to do it and and and they did so.

So to me that the straight line from Tampa and Oakland are going out with teams that have championship pedigree that have been through the wars that have*talent that know how to rise to the occasion. Whether it Steph Curry or Roger about the luckier the key driver Clay Thompson or whoever.

Maybe, maybe not dream, and even an and know how to win in the pockets moment they daughter when clinching game they daughter. When potential elimination game. I just like there's a line between the two team that that is it. It's hard to replicate unless you and let you donate what you want it and when you done it a couple times.

I don't know that it becomes any easier, but there are situations that probably become easier and I think the Celtics found themselves in one of those and didn't quite know how to handle it the way the warriors to me. The Celtics were made you is that you draw the comparison because now that I think about it. I think Colorado has the better team than Tampa and I think that Boston had the better team then Golden State, but there was an intangible about the warriors in the there's no goalie in basketball and they don't really have shot blocking Batman event Boston has better shot blocking then then Golden State did but there's an intangible about basketball and knowing how to do it that it is similar between Golden State and Tampa will get the lightning in a second. But the interesting thing to me was that Clay Thompson wasn't really all that good last night's dream on green saved his best for last. He was outstanding.

After Wiggins. He was probably Golden State's third-best player noticed you. I didn't even mention when help finally the player that everyone thought he was going to be coming out of out of high school, but Wiggins is. He's not even that player because I look at Andrew Wiggins like he was by default Golden State second best player.

He was simply consistently good because car and not doctorate Clay Thompson at this point is all over the place. We just don't you don't know because he's not fully back you know you have the Achilles you have the ACLU missed two years basketball two half years basketball so is not fully back yet. I'm hoping that we'll see something closer to the Clay Thompson of old next year as he still is not an old guy so maybe we'll get that Clay is it like no stock market used up down up down up down dream on his game is definitely on the back nine and everything else is a bunch of up-and-coming kids, except for Curry and Wiggins is just become like if this was if we thought this that Andrew Wiggins was good to be this, he wouldn't be the first pick like the eighth pick is he just a solid player do something about that I think are the common line. There record a famous triangle basketball player and coach. It both the lightning and the warriors. When that when it comes time to when it comes time to gotta make shot.

They can both make your they make shot it scoring it really stopping them in hockey or warmaking shop about why just feel like you talk about ball movement, defense, and all the things warriors. They make shot and you know they do it when it matters, and they do it as much as anybody ever have really obviously step of the big part of that but it is sort of part of the culture and and they have the experience to know how to handle the situation and you also did like I thought you say they run their own race. Andrew is race different different triangle different tribal coach, but the gotta make shot no absolute fluids so very good, so real quick and I know you and II didn't talk mentioned to you that I wanted to get this but just kind of a from a 30,000 foot view North Carolina really only had to replace one guy Brady manic. Looks like they would in the portal and did that Duke is a completely retooled roster NC state has also is a completely retooled roster delved heavily into the transfer portal and got maybe the biggest return he would. All the guys a return for Carolina maybe the biggest returning in the triangle was the impact of to Qualey and Smith coming back to Kevin Keats and NC state how do you look at these three schools here in the triangle and what they are white, you are each dealing with different challenges that are dull composed in a way like North Carolina hi everyone is did not deal with expectations well at the beginning of black people expected that to be a good deed now, but even more expectations and they have the experience, the body point for national title. But that's always it's always different to be the guy they went to the NPH argument and not the guy they're going to be the guy at the start time. How North Carolina handled that and what Hubert Davis maybe done differently. I think when you look at their season over 40 games. You did a really good job of making sure that they peaked at the right time and and and honestly again that if every thought of nothing against Dr. but his departure was was sort of what made all the court together you know and and and that was known that. Not that it was addition by contractor Bridget allowed everyone else to flock into their proper role, specially Brady manic so know how you deal with those expectations. Again even even higher do you have experience of going to the final board meeting point at the end of the year and employing candidates with everything on the line but it's still going to be new, it is a new expectation that my Unity in terms of talent they have everything in and out of your paper should be a better coach doesn't mean you did a bad job your one, but that experience to get to be invaluable in any or interview turning the entire roster over and starting over with the recommended obviously a few more transfer this time I actually have a ton of competent John Dreyer to navigate that and I think with the X factor you could get to be yelled tired and unbelievably basketball IQ is unbelievably high. He's also the kind of guy would not contradict by kinship him a voice opposition, and he may be, you know Grady is a double advocate position a but I don't even he would be easy understood his role on that. I think there's no doubt in my mind that over the last 10 years John Dreyer had been things that if you were head coach. He would do differently.

Not now. You get and maybe that something that helps you write. I think losing K will hurt them just in the sense that he understood all of this so intrinsically.

It was also second major damage on fire like you were David R to be in charge in an and make the vision but I do think you can happen, different tactics, I think you think I'm a bit with the transfers that he brought into sort of add more experience in this don't happen to Jalan come together all that and then the young empty state.

I know they have the same issues in terms of gelling on the roster getting to Qualey and Smith is back it back is great, but that also was a great team with them last year so you know I mean everyone knows that the area was for his job effectively.

There's no mystery about that no one can I have any allusion so they gotta get off to a good start and build some momentum there but I do think they have employers with some talent who may be the one on the best teams work the greatest. I should have something to prove that they want the problem and if you get enough of those guys together all going on the same rope you got a chance to do something in and work. Note that that Kevin and Keith need some good news out of the program this year.

This is the gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak.

Figuring it out on the fly became 25th anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen