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June 23, 2022 2:23 pm

Sports betting in North Carolina will have to wait

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June 23, 2022 2:23 pm

The North Carolina Judiciary Committee and General Assembly only passed one of the two sports betting bills (Senate Bill 38 and Senate Bill 668) to legalize sports gambling in North Carolina. Brian Murphy of WRAL joined the show to share the latest with the North Carolina House of Representatives, and what's the timeline for the bill.

Also, Brenden Whitted of the League Pass Lair joined the show to talk about the Charlotte Hornets and what they will do with the NBA Draft, the potential to trade Gordon Hayward, and an extension for Miles Bridges.

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Financial capital financial. This is the gold show in the treatment of the same gambler for sure he knows about 4000 years who started rambling who's the first week summer program work. Who cares why so long as I want. We went for a last go round will is the Adam gold shell yeah surprised nobody surprised you don't show that I'm going to been following the news is we have yesterday. The state legislature here in North Carolina did the unthinkable, highly predictable and did not approve mobile sports wagering could not prove, and they use the dumbest reasons to not approve it, citing morals and the Bible and a point shaving scandal from the 1950s. It's again highly predictable. What happened will talk about it with Brian Murphy from WR LTV five sports investigative reporter. He's been on the case. We talked to him last week he said still should know it's not dead yet but it appears to be on life support will talk about that little bit later on, man. All of the arguments against this are rooted in fifty-year old behavior fifty-year old behavior. All of it will get to again I say this as somebody who's not even a gambler. I don't bet on sports. Although once again thank Mark for fretting the coffers I appear to be limited in total, 34, 65 to the good yeah and you thought almost all the way back to zero. I mean, it still -835 but still present. Over the last three weeks about €1800 to hear. I might have figured this out after I got into a pretty big debt. At some point, even a guy hitting like 150 is going to go like 11 for his next 32 right and that's that that's you you you you fought all the way up to hitting to 28 is all I'll take that is absolute tonalities in baseball to 28 will get you 10 year deal. It might, it is long as you know foam run to 28 will work. Although some some teams are trending the other way. Some teams are trending the other way old mean actually getting on base and getting hit baseball is runs in cycles as well and I've said this before, about all sports. If you fall in love and base everything on analytics, you are doomed to be as successful as the teams who ignore analytics match just the truth. Analytics are really good as a tool not as a plan.

The home like I always rail on this movie and it was a wonderful movie and I enjoyed it and when it when I when I see it on my TV Guide I invariably will. Moneyball really good movie Brad Pitt as Billy being the guy was the architect of the Oakland Athletics.

Great teams still in charge. The open athletics right I keep pointing this out. The Oakland A's success in the early 90s had almost nothing to do with having a longtime catcher who was good at getting on base be there first baseman Scott Hatteberg. It had everything to do with having elite starting pitching and MVP candidates at two positions in Miguel to hot it short and Eric's job as 1/3 for that particular season. Yeah the Yankees got rid of David justice and essentially were paying $8 million of just the salary to play against them, which is one of the great lines in the entire movie, but it would.

It's a complete fraud that they are that they're trying to sell the A's success of that era on Moneyball a complete fraud.

They had great players get motor Hudson Zito restarting pictures out on rookie contracts. So guess what, that's what you could be cheap and to hot had an amazing it was, was an amazing player at that time Chavez was great look. They had so many good players. That's why they were really good but it's not. It doesn't help the narrative and that has spurned an era of of you know, really smart people not knocking these people who have sore throat a figured out a way maybe on the edges on the edges. You can you can impact the system but for the most part the A's one because of stars. Note that said analytics has a place. It just isn't a plan just like ignoring analytics is not a plan, either pilots.

We got a bunch of things I want to do to start off with some news in about 10 minutes with Brian Murphy's let's do it get off on that kind anyway NBA draft tonight Orlando Magic with the number one pick. They have three choices.

The consensus is that there are only three candidates to be the number one overall pick. Yeah super athlete with deep shooting ability and Jabari Smith 610 forward out of Auburn yeah super skilled 7 foot one playmaking use air quotes your center probably needs to physically develop inch at home when I say air quotes in center because honestly play like authentically does not play like a so these is a tall guy. He plays like a wing right and Holmgren is super skilled and then speaking super skilled you've got the super skilled really smart power forward who can initiate offense and pass but might not quite have the first step quickness that you need to be the best he can possibly be in the NBA Apollo banker that bank arrows probably of the three. The best basketball player right but I get what I don't. I think all three of them are going to be good NBA players the only one of those, I would hesitate to draft to be honest is Holmgren because he could break. I think you could break me that guys family, but I don't know and others probably a lot of people thought Kevin Durrant could break that Durrant has not really gotten me he's got big can't not as you as an adult you get big I don't know that anybody thinks that Holmgren is going to be as good as Durrant anyway.

J. Williams on why bank Harold Phil Dickey is the favorite now to go number one. If you understand a little bit of the situation in Orlando right Jeff Whitman is the general met you magic president basketball operations and for him. The reason why polished by the odds on favorite is because they posted workout video of Chet Holmgren and Jabari Smith when he came in, but there were a little bit more secretive about polyp and Carol almost in a way they refused to tell the media if they worked him out or not right so you start thinking about that narrative floating around the Orlando Magic and I will say Jabari has a talent and will get into MBA comps like a mess of a number of players. To me the totality so there jumps off the pages like overshot Lewis type ceiling for him when it's all said and done polyp and curl can create his own shot bank. I guess that bank arrows probably the best basketball player of three but Smith to me is the most elite athlete of the three and I'm not sure that he shouldn't be the first pick. I actually think he will be the first and I think Holmgren will be the second pick, and I think Ben Carol will be the third pick, and then I think the future best player okay will be the fourth bit but I'll get to that intimate again. I think Smith is the pick cases can be made for all three and this is where Jordan Cornett chimes in on their isn't any one got what makes it so exciting. There's not a set number one and I will get honestly drunk it's interesting or drop-off so she can bury it. The fifth spot in think of five guys you can change a franchise.

So I think there's a lot of ways that are warning different ways that hybridize their personal pieces gifted unique set of skills that can be puzzle pieces invaluable to different franchises in those first five but needed Chet Holmgren to the talk about what I think the biggest? With him is durability receiving body types like that is not possible. His back is kinda concave a little bit. You don't necessarily want the posture can that the toughness of the question because of his body, but one of the things about the draft is a misnomer to me. Amber Courtney is people always focus on people can't do yet again. Cornett got to it. I'm just not sure he can hold on physically 82 games against the guys you can have to play against even even if he plays wastebasket me he's going to get he's going to get body lot again on the on the low. I kinda like Jade Navi on time. But upon think you might be the best player ultimately in the draft are more about the Hornets should do in about 15 minutes before we get to Brian Murphy for WR yell about sports gambling say the Stanley Cup finals ended last night Dennis was hockey but it does appear that the elevator doors closing after last night's 32 overtime win by the avalanche we can get into the controversy of the game-winning goal in overtime in the second but first let's acknowledge this Colorado looks like the better team that night there faster team. There the deeper team. There is a healthier team goaltending is not yet materialized as the difference maker that could have been and I say this even though Darcy Kemper probably allowed the weakest of the goals last night Victor Hedman goal that made it 21 Tampa was probably one that Kemper should not have allowed. I don't know that you could say that about Andrea Slutsky from last nights game right now to Nizam congeries game-winner. By the way came back for the first time. Yeah, I wasn't expecting well.

They had been leaning toward this so he comes back in place.

First super athletic goal by country just dynamite is basically split the defense Brickell circuit that was on the ice too long.

He was exhausted should play the body didn't try to play the puck you lose when you play the puck we all should know this but it's I guess too enticing by the body and he goes underneath the blocker side arm of vessel of schematic, deflects up over like under the back bar so good goal, but it should not have counted. It was clearly too many meant too many men on the ice by the avalanche and I'll explain why it really matters in the second. But here's John Cooper on just not really record be ready to talk about this on Christine much more than others just because of it was taken on as potential why it's hard for me, this can be hard for you speak speak speak with you tomorrow to see what I mean when you see the one goal that my heart breaks for players probably still should be black will be available tomorrow while you could look I'm not shedding a tear for Tampa. Just not but does bad calls or bad non-calls happen all the time, but the way this is adjudicated all the time in the NHL is that when you notice too many men on the ice is blow the whistle. We don't need Tampa to touch or rather Colorado touch the book got too many men we blow the whistle and it was clearly too many men and PK Suman sort of admits that but then goes to a place where we shouldn't even go but it's hard to was already all the way down the ice. It was a stretch. Play the other side of the right. I don't think anyone saw all play everybody thought it was really impacted again. As far as ending goal one.

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Overtime anything that happens it bounces that he got and have a reason to be upset about it is that they came back about diversity another 310 that last of his true Colorado gets credit. They battle, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, you said you said the truth of the first part.

It's too many men does impact the goal because the way I saw it, contrary goal score was the replacement for McKinnon, the God who was lazy getting up I understand it, the whole place should if Condrey had waited for McKinnon to come off.

Then Condrey wouldn't of been in position to get the puck. But he didn't wait. McKinnon was lazy. It was simply a blown call. That's just a blown call. That's all. PK Suman needed to say. Blown call but them's the breaks and that's fine. Not reviewable should have been reviewable, but it wasn't an nobody here anyway.

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The road nobody here will shed a tear unless you might've had action on the lightning to where not allowed to have action legally anyway on the lightning to win. Why, why, because the North Carolina legislature and even if they had gotten it right. Yesterday the state legislature who voted against online sports wagering. It still would not have been in place in time to place a wager yesterday. It was still going to wait until January 1. And maybe it still will come into play January 1 but as we said last week, the clock, she is taking the legislative session ends June 30. That's a week from today, right to week from today, so I don't know if it's dead or not Brian Murphy, WR ale, sports, investigative reporter joins us on the Adam gold show right so explained to me Mr. Murphy how one bill passes, but the other doesn't, and essentially it was the same score 5150.

Guess you don't have to win by to the state legislature and how come we were missing voters were are there hundred and 20 votes in the state would really get hundred and one all requested. There was one change voted yes on onset of the 38 no one to go fix it. He apparently told told the doctor what are you going to do so wasn't a strike that, although I'm not sure they thought that the entire thing was to come down to one vote right. I've heard of heard from people I'm working to contact lawmakers who said they were before the vote of the vote one way you and so I think that through off the vote counts for the supporters of this on. As for where everybody went to question. There were several excused out and then there are others who walk that happens sometimes when you don't want to sport something that that leadership want you to support and so rather than voting against it, which would force them to find other votes. You just take walking to the it's better than voting no slip think about, not practically, that is that I'm sorry that's it that's that's a no vote in 12 different don't know that you don't have to votes, I totally understand if they want to know just have the courage and don't know why that's just me that you don't you don't get any bit in the business of opinion, I do. So I'll all work in that area and you can stay. You could just laugh or whatever. Why was this close. I just don't understand why it was this close. I think I think there's a little bit of your show. I've been on on right you'll certainly my friends. I think back on this issue. In particular, from people like us who follow sports very closely know a lot about sports gambling know a lot about the history of the issue and in the lawmakers who were casting votes on know many of them don't don't really know about online sports gambling is not something that they're very familiar with the thought of ever used in the past.

They're not sure about all of the issues that are involved in everywhere last night you a lot of a lot of complaints about potential point shaving negative thoughts for there is a disconnect between the people who operate in the space and think about these issues and the lawmakers were Brian Murphy from the Mario sports he's there sports investigative reporters joining us here in the Adam gold show is sound weird but if they don't really understand the issue which it's obvious that they don't job understand the issue or maybe put it. Put it this way of a pretty sizable majority of the state is pro sports wagering is almost 60% of the state is in favor of wire me. Why not just go by the pool and I don't want to know a broadbrush everybody moral you Mariposa gambling. They know a lot about the gambling there.

Others are worried about the final call.

There are informed lawmakers, but yeah, I think transport your question thing of the primary right of the house pushing the most on the record to go home and hear from their could situate whether they think they did a good thing or bad thing. Now everybody said That boat and maybe somebody will come back after the weekend or after that I was on which ones really want that for me, at least judging by my twitter account. You overwhelming amount of people want this you know I try to understand that my twitter account not rip the state as a whole. Certainly you have been lit up with people say hey thanks for the work. What can we do how can we help I think he thinks that now that the boats were made everyone, most everyone have taken a public stance on this that those who voted no.

They hear from some of their constituents and ended at a pressure if you're in favor of getting sport gambling that the president that breaks the logjam you you you wrote about a watered-down version of SB 38 real quick what was the watered-down version of the lease trip all college sports gambling out of the bill for Dr. Michael vote for the bill that passed right but they stripped all college sports gambling of Virginia that allowed people in Virginia about Virginia or Virginia Tech.

This amendment to this bill you would not bet on Alabama verse class and if you lived and worked on it which strip all calls but that would reduce the amount of revenue produced by the you buy this building of the tax revenue of gambling revenue by half, maybe slightly less than half it's it's like Vegas. I think I don't know.

I don't think Megan still has it. You can bet on Nevada games teams in Nevada in-laws. I guess it just it will all these things are silly.

The gentleman who I did reach out to left off the top my head. I forget his name, who cited the author, Audrey Hughes, who cited the point shaving scandal in the 1950s understood that that was not legalized sports wagering back then and that if we had legalize sports wagering that that likely would not have happened because all of these all these point shaving scandals and is not just one in North Carolina have been because people still gamble.

I wish people understood that. Let me ask you one final quit will get what you want to chime in here recently and have gotten caught because of a legal for large back fishing that the authorities get involved with student data to sport the number one way to catch point shaving scandals is are the legal books the MGM Caesars of the world they know what's up right final thing as you said, it's, it's not dead yet. Brian Murphy tell me, give me some hope that it will not be dead next week. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

I don't think it's going to cost nothing to try to find some way. Some of the supporters think they can find ways the most likely way is that it gets attacked or something else that has to get through the legislature. A budget deal some sort of bigger package write about but seeing that how divisive the boat was that it was divided both among within the Republican Party and within the Democratic Party. No choice.

Parties were split hard to see that it is getting enough momentum at this point in in the session to get to get over your ears a little bit ago and is only do it if you want to sport this bill wasn't going to effect until January. The legislature is back in January.

New crop of lawmakers after the election.

Perhaps some of that changes, who's in place and maybe I can get up and running quickly so that though it may only be a couple off the way that that would be the optimistic outlook month delay beyond January 1 Wednesday. What is the next legislative session. It would start January January 1, shortly after the summer not to have any more legislative sessions until January 1.

They can extend this to more think they can render and also talk about coming back in the fall to handle redistricting. One is one of lawmakers here in Raleigh there still a chance. I hope as long as they're still here, there still will you doing on and they're still there still hope I got pitchforks so I'm ready to go. Brian Murphy at Mercy in NC on twitter W RAL sports investigative reporter. Thank you very much for allowing me to vent from June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became presented by the Carolina listen as Cox produces.

NBA draft tonight bigger picture look at the draft a little bit later on the right.

Now we know that the 13th and 15th, they select 13th and 15th one of the day. Select anybody in this NBA draft printed would league pass layer at HQ, but we don't yet know where talk to Brentwood here in just a second. The, the argument can be made that the Hornets may be better served. Certainly not selecting twice, but maybe even not selecting at all, and packaging those two pics plus Gordon Hayward to get out of town. Maybe bring back a player maybe bring back a future asset create more Room. They have this this Bridges guy that they might want to make sure sticks around for a long time and will see where the Hornets are on the developmental time no timetable. How close are they to being where they need to be so will talk will talk about that in just a second, but the draft tonight has right now a not happy.

There is no consensus sure fire number one there are three outstanding options in Chet Holmgren from Zagat. The 71 just column the center because that's what they lets the mess. 610 Jabari Smith more of a small forward from Auburn and Apollo bank arrow also. 610 250 pounds. Duke McCarroll has the best body. Smith is the best athlete Holmgren has the wildest skill set of let's talk about the Panthers we bring in Brandon waited at HQ Cosell on twitter league pass layer graduate. I don't know what that means, let's talk about the thought about the bugs where they do the depict 13 and 15. What is what's the plan Brandon. That is precisely my question. What is because I do not like last and stable to ghostly warriors on one is fine because that's that's important part right type of culture have is important, and an indicator that a guy assistant coach UNEP ghostly working ghostly warriors and coach franchises. It's a little rough. I will not be like to know the names of obscene, probably so mostly clear. Mark Williams WILL rightly remember for.

Seeing a little bit about OG body and I like best is 22 years old. I was pleased that you would like to give him a little bit sooner straight is also start signs of rolling classes and decided not to play, like there's a certain boom bust don't know what it looks like the prep high school level. So I got to explain your you're in a place where we might be rebuilding may just be a good opportunity to give him ideas that he would take longer to develop that again. What is the plan that the kind of thing to figure out how to read.//This could end up taking a lot of Youngstown or would you rather let the master to address this position. Okay, let's let's deal with that. Is there a trade to be made where you send 13 and 15+ Gordon Hayward, in a deal to get something a lot a lot Hayward he's been floating with not a lot of people. David Russell Westbrook because what is this point in his career with the same numbers of similar parcels of x-ray and again I get back on what department will what's your plan is still wake you close are you taking a step back things that will rest overwhelming idea is that your team is not what Russ would be so years.right Russ is old this year, but is also this is a contract you write something you would have more next right there, is that there is also the place you get your certain veteran leadership presence velocity got screwed like there's I just don't know what the overall plan.

I because they were so close to the playoffs. They want to take that next part in one of the large nominee like this it takes to sell seriously to match whatever you get you heck you have to give him the contact they deserve it for years. $60 million of swing bothers me. Don't sell your player right now yes now being insulting. Then we see signs that he was going to become this after last year so maybe based on what he had done in the past. That's not an insult but based on what they hoped he would become and what he they clearly knew that he hoped he would become mean it's insulting which is with with with Aaron judge to a lesser extent. They did offer judge 30 million per year, but ultimately will be there differently here varying degrees of insult, but like me that Bridges is going to be. You know he's knocking to be necessarily a $40 million year guy, but is not a $15 million year guy either and I think maybe that's trying to get away cheap. Ultimately cost you in the long run.

And maybe they should've they should've been on board a little bit more projection or just wait it out and consult a guy try to do collaborates with what work is one of player not three uses this account is really kind show his great like hey you this fantastic lettuces and I have Morgan highlight I want to become a basket gets a lot more and become more efficient and effective score. And yes, you don't want to mess up something players mental reserve franchise right now. Get rid of or or don't or not is number one target host of issues that those two guys are the generational pieces of this of this team. If the if they are going to be generational just the core pieces of this growing forward everything you do will be built around them.

Is there anybody else on the roster that you say I did this guy must be a part of the team going forward or are they essentially all deck chairs shown three like there's some intrigue there.

I am not sure how play is not whether God not have to play him at the center position that you would start to see little difference on police to have more time to figure that out everyone else to our pieces in trace, depending on what you want to do if this team is a team that is going to lumber runway right like Glenn Glenn and whoever everyone and and you can figure it out there. If you're hey we need to be a first round second round make the legitimate playoffs yeah you probably do need to make it three or more stamps player like so my trade is Hayward 13 and 15 for Turner to Indianapolis when he think that peace like you're really really good player. Here a lot of workouts shot file that would like to be. I will give you so much flexibility so I have no problem switching any and everything you could have like a top five or 6.at that position basically gives you so much more talent, was right. Well, I'm not afraid to give up too much if you want to bring Turner and nothing Turner might make them possibly back to Annapolis I did at first.

But I pre-Outlook Mark Williams and it that's takes it takes a lot for you, a Carolina guy. I never got around that will hear us a lot is gone but like another guy basically has some versatility looking at.

They were talking a lot has to be better. I we hope we help wanted to do the right thing.

Whatever the right thing is, Brennan waited at HQ Cosell on Twitter thanks man appreciate it. We'll talk soon.

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