Is Baker Mayfield the Carolina Panthers' starter in 2023?

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Yeah and I went well. What happened to you Dennis hey I was around Hayes yeah whatever dream it up of Cruz Lucius too much that'll that'll do it. We do have a lot to do because when I leave when I scheduled vacation time things start happening it's it's an absolute right of summer gold going on vacation. Let's see how much crazy news, we can break so here's what happened either. As we were going to going on vacation or while we were there the day before I left, we had the bombshell news of USC and UCLA murdering college football right that happened the day before the Thursday at around 2 o'clock is what happened and we talked about. Obviously on Friday the are the ACCs demise was counted down by basically everybody with a great smile and a microphone so everybody like all on television. We were talking about how the ACC was done, the Big Ten is going to swallow the entire Pacific coastline yes and all the other schools were going to the SEC that I'm sorry the big 12 was going to regenerate as this super conference with 20 teams that don't matter. Yeah, you respond I just okay so but serious discussion about the ACC Baker Mayfield finally became a Carolina Panthers Tony D'Angelo became a Philadelphia Flyers and Novak's joke image one Wimbledon's 21st grand slam first of the year. He will be in the field of the U.S. Open will talk about that. So were dealing with a lot of stuff. That's the meeting on the mound during bull Durham when they go out there and they don't know what to get Billy and Millie for urgent was a Jimmy and Millie, Jimmy and Millie for a wedding present.

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Interesting sort of sexy but gossipy Peddy behavioral news like petting in the sport of golf, but we'll see if we have time for it today. Sure I'll figure out a way to work it will get a start on Main St. in Charlotte. For months we've been hearing about how the Panthers were in hot pursuit of Baker Mayfield and we had been talking about it and speculating about it, figuring well, it's probably good happen because the Panthers wanted to add the Browns have to get Baker Mayfield out of town. He doesn't want to be there.

They don't want him to be there.

They have DeShawn Watson who may or may not play this year.

We don't know they have Jacoby percent will be the backup and be the starter if DeShawn Watson, Mrs. well is going to miss time how much time we just don't know. So Beryl said at quarterback and Baker Mayfield wasn't wasn't ever going to play another game so here's how it sat, how it happens, Baker goes to the Panthers to Cleveland, a fifth-round pick whatever and the money the bonus money that was paid to me to Mayfield for this year is all they all stays there right so the Panthers basically pay $5 million of Baker's $19 million. I think that's the total It for the Panthers $5 million supplement lines look it's good that they're not giving up anything okay it's good but I found this to be hysterical because I'm not moved by. I don't think this is that big a deal and Panthers twitter was ablaze over how all, how could you be against this.

I know that and give up anything. I actually said that in my initial tweet, like, whatever. But Baker Mayfield doesn't move the needle for me. There's Keyshawn Johnson from Keisha J. Will and Max who takes it one step further.

Think he's going into the season as a starting point. I got know everybody thinks that based on his tenure at Cleveland and Carolina perpetrate for him so automatically. People being okay is better coordinate the struggle of Sam Donald of second half of the season. Last year Baker Mayfield injured if he was helping maybe click the browse a good bit different. He's not on the movie Carolina but I don't think that he starts to season the Sam Darlow holds them all in. If McAfee stays healthy as a differencing. I think he called them struggling Sam Donald is he running for president.

Maybe anyway. First of all, if Baker Mayfield doesn't beat out Sam Donald to be the starting quarterback of the Carolina Panthers everybody should be embarrassed, Scott Fitterer. Matt rule Baker Mayfield hugely embarrassed if Baker is not the starting quarterback for the Panthers against Cleveland in week one, I would. I did a against hit on ESPN radio. I think it was Thursday of last week we play cuts from that. Did you really did okay.

I was on the ESPN I so blown away that I was like, I mean how hard could the board be set any lower person like you think the chances are beating out Sam Burrell, Mike, did you want Sandor to play last year that good. Have you ever watched Sandor in a playful time looking has flashes.

I would even argue that Donald's best, probably better than Baker's best, but Donald's is at times this I don't think Baker's ever horrendous send Arnold likes to throw interceptions that get returned for touchdowns. I think he likes it. He's bigger is better athlete might have a better arm. I don't know what it certainly there's very little difference between the two, but I do think on the whole that Mayfield is an upgrade over Donald, but when we talk about like getting your team to the promised land right like Moses just showed up it still just Baker Mayfield so it's not like the net all my God are our long search for his franchise quarterback is over no what happened. They got a slight upgrade at the position over Sam Donald. That's what they did. I think Mayfield is a bottom third of the NFL starting quarterback.

I think Sam Donald is also a bottom third of the NFL starting quarterback just lower in that bottom third Baker so this is this is my overall point. What was the point of this yeah okay Mayfield's better than Donald but is he the guy objectively. The answer has to be no so what's the what's the point of all of this.

If he goes 988 or my gosh tenant seven and you sneak into the last playoff spot. All it does is mess up track position for the draft next year. I'm not saying you should tank right let Darlow be the guy and who knows, maybe if you get sick. Seven weeks into the season baccarat looks okay practice you don't mind throwing them out there baccarat play. Find out if you have anything but all this is going to do is delay the process to me again I will say this thing I could be wrong. None of us really know any anything about all this. I will really try to say but rules jump because that that was the comeback I got well Matt rule got a gun when James and Mike yeah you like Matt rule.

So what are you doing what you know. Arguing yeah and here's my question. Is it possible that we can watch a head coach and say man coaches good and I can't head coach of a losing season. Is it possible that we can recognize when a head coach knows what he's doing even in a losing season. I I will submit that the answer to that is yes right the first year of why my drawing a blank.

Brian Florez my, what are they for the six intent maybe worse right whatever the record was most of us watched the Dolphins that year went holy crap this guy knows what he's doing now. I don't know if that last I guiltily got fired he got fired because he wouldn't tank for the owner, but Brian Florez during a losing season tennis will okay this guys pretty good knows it is how are we able to tell when they were one of the worst teams in the league because there are certain things that are obvious. So another thing they asked me about what is better left to do is save his job. Mike I mean I don't even know how to answer that question when you believe like they can go tenant seven and we can still see the same garbage of wasted timeouts and unsure know how to game plan and all of the we can still see all of that go and I just made the playoffs because easy schedule.

The underbelly of the 67 playoff spots was kind of soft we can see that we could know you think that could so that should change your opinion of whether or not a coaches good and deserves another year just like going six intent might not be insert in some situations might not be the death knell of the coach so I these are unanswerable questions right.

Unanswerable questions I just Baker Mayfield doesn't move me. That's my point. And mankind will guide Twitter said that this is the most talented quarterback the Panthers have had in a decade process that for one second is to I have two problems with that. I assume that this was a Baker Mayfield burner account or a bot, but just process that for one second that same the most. Maybe the most talented quarterback the Panthers and had in a decade.

Your strong if you think that Baker Mayfield is more talented and candid.

Today he is but can preinjury what why we even have and that I not a television and then gets to what it would witnessing everything cam have the Panthers had more talented quarterback ever Baker might be on the top two or three if cam was completely eliminated from the situation. I would Baker Jake alone, Chris ;-) what are we doing Steve Burrell line. They bring Lawson Jimmy Rod will need will Greer run exactly call Alan understand all that but yet it was just that was just silly. I would say let's try something else.

Tony D'Angelo Vieira lasted one year on on Friday.

First of all, I can't decide or can't remember if we talked about it here. Dennis or if I just talked about it on a podcast. This is sort of the hurricanes MO right can't come to agreement or contract for RFA trays rights.

They do and it happened with Elias Lindell right know ahead of him but I think that was more about Lindholm that it was about head up and they tried to bring Lindell back and this was the year after Bill peters try to bring Lindell back and he had figured that he wanted to be paid and hurricanes at a figure that they wanted to pay him and those figures did not match training accept this or you're out. They didn't accept it. They traded it happened with Justin Falk. It happened with Tony D'Angelo what they do when not sitting around not waiting for an arbitration award and then D'Angelo son talk to Tony D'Angelo little bit D'Angelo signs two years $5 million year with Philadelphia and all I could think of was that doesn't seem like it would be so hard to fit and it basically comes down to this for me or for the team, not just for me.

They viewed D'Angelo as 1/3 pair defenseman who would run their powerful and D'Angelo viewed himself as more than that. So if you view yourself as more than that you're going to price yourself accordingly and the hurricanes were trying to convince Tony that he was worth about 3 1/2 million per year and if he had agreed to stay for two years 3 1/2 million or even one year 3 1/2 million. I think about anything that they would definitely don't. But no, that's not where it was and so because this is what the hurricanes do I just cut bait and regardless of what the return was we can go back and forth about all time.

I thought the 2.42×5 wasn't outrageous for the value. The D'Angelo brought 51 points. He partnered with Slaven. It was a much better partnership than I thought. I think the organization is giving it credit Jacob Slaven had a great year yeah D'Angelo had his best all-around season in the NHL. The underlying numbers while defensively it appears that Slaven regressed ostensibly he progress and the overall numbers are better than they were at any point in his career it's it's a tough loss. They're not going to re-sign. I don't believe any of their free agents, restricted mean natures I think is going to be re-sign Lawrence is going to be re-signed. Maybe they revisit Ethan bear now because they need bodies. Yeah but there didn't need three NHL defenseman and five NHL forwards three NHL defenseman. If Jade Galen Chatfield is here gives them an extra extra defenseman on the NHL roster five NHL forwards will give them an extra NHL forward on the on the roster so they need eight players with about $23 million to play that's less then $3 million annual, so we'll see. We got Donna one more thing I want to get to before we had our first break will Brinson will join us at the bottom of the hour. The ACC is still alive. Very exciting, I know a lot of you are surprised that the league hasn't shuttered their doors to seeing Greensboro right now. I would rather boarding up the windows and whatnot was further moved to Charlotte, that's true. I know USC and UCLA killed the back 12 so we and we always overreact. We overreacted on a Friday. That doesn't mean that long term that the ACC is on solid footing because they're not in a great spot league is not on on good footing right now, but it ain't good to be like the ACC is suddenly going to become Southwest conference's not going away. It will definitely in time. Look at different, it will either be larger or it will be smaller. I don't think you're going to see the ACC survive as the league.

It is right now. 10 years down the road. Maybe not even three years down the but we were sitting here on Friday. Plato sexually moving pieces around a monopoly board know that we were doing all those like a game of risk what territorially taken over here. It is interesting is that I may have mentioned this a ride. I've mentioned this before.

This goes back now's almost 10 years. We had a look at a college sports expansion draft and the rules of the game word you you you pick a school first and then the next school you take has to be the state that that school is in must be attached to the school due to some school in your roster. Okay, so if you took Ohio State with your first pick the next school you took in the draft that state wherever it whatever state that school is in.

Had the border Ohio so you could take Kentucky right you want to say about I don't even know Michigan or something like that right. You could you could you could do that so we we did that and we had four people drafting and we drafted 10 schools, and it was very simple.

There was a situation where North Carolina and southern Were in the same league as it's very easy to get from coast-to-coast Tennessee brings you pretty close so that was that was our fault right to get around. We had a we had a fun time at that. But a lot of people are under the something that's what's happening now and it's hard to say it isn't because college sports has become only about money, nothing else matters to the people who run it.

The people who watch it and consume it.

I don't I don't think a really mean it. On the surface there into it, but I think that there is going to be a lot of downside that people aren't ready for.

I will get to that intimate.

Anyway, the guy from swim swam here he was, he was the one breaking news last week.

I know he had four schools go swimming. I had four schools, including North Carolina actively negotiating with the Southeastern conference to join that league Reese Davis from ESPN on who would be most attractive. Ultimately, I think you see is still vulnerable doesn't mean that they that they can't make it but at the moment the brand it would really bring value to the other big competent debate to which is where we are headed, are few and far between but there are few, if those brands and I use that word because that's what they are now at Eagle North Carolina Clemson football. Those are the two primary ones. In my judgment, there are others, but those of the two that I think are most attractive and would bring some value.

Should they try to test that should they try to go in the ACC will have a hard time standing up. Yeah I don't think those schools are to test the grant of rights and will talk about what grant of rights mean with David Teal coming up in the second out, but the only school I think it is going to really challenge that is Notre Dame. If they are interested in joining the Big Ten think the ACC can still make a relatively attractive pitch to Notre Dame.

Hey, you can be big for sheer yeah and if you're if you are not about money. If you're not about raking in money then this is the way to keep college sports looking kinda like what it looks like right now and if that's good for you, then you should join this league, but that's for Jim Phillips to negotiate and honestly it might not be worth it to Notre Dame and I am not speculating one way or the other but I Notre Dame joins the Big Ten there just another just another body there no fence okay. I mean, I might be throwing shade on the ACC but Notre Dame steps in to ACC in terms of football there right there with Clemson in the Big Ten man-to-man there just another Southern California Ohio State Michigan I will hear from my man Coach Pete through the capital financial advisory group.

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All you got is call or you can text Adam to 21000 for Coach Pete. The root my friend will bring senior and a fellow writer CBSSports.com prefix podcast moderator that they did an emergency podcast for Baker Mayfield's trade from Cleveland to Carolina, I have to ask how many of you guys laughed when you did an emergency podcast for that transaction I'm so perfect time because I was long for sure. I podcast out your student had to miss it right now is a clear upgrade has natural arms.

May June July clinical teams alter all the way into the season proved what someone is clearly clearly you and I greatly just had you and I agree that Baker Mayfield is better than Sam Donald. I find it hysterical that there is some speculation. Keisha Johnson said today that Sam Donald will be the starter on it for week one. I don't see it. US USC along with you long for a little Carolina Panthers alum Keisha Johnson, so I was I was a guest on ESPN radio last week and they asked me what are the odds that Baker Mayfield on the seat Sam Donald Mike that boring hi I means say the other way around, yet not what we we agree that Mayfield is an upgrade many years and I and the fact is Carolinas not paying a lot of contract and they really didn't give up anything, so there are a lot of positives about the deals, but he's not the guy he's he's at best a guy I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise type quarterback so I just wonder why why why go through this. If he's not the guy. What did the wind.

Probably what happened to the win probability how much did it go up, I believe our city relations Verizon viral SportsLine, I believe in chocolate 6371 Baker important to is that like the Baker tree itself. Quarterback Regina clearly does not have a quarterback 2022.

Getting dollars off of her salary, which are the pictures make the playoffs, you get 1.5 crazy job. This whole trip the first place.

The problem is long-term.

In this particular trade is that you have to be reasonable about it like straight. You do have to take the trade off to get Matt corral Donald altogether. We do that, you realize that while the cost associated graphics is pretty strong team. This is a clear pattern of desperation and important management when it comes to asset allocation report basically 2nd to 3rd draft class. I don't think they gave up. I will say that they give up nothing for Baker Mayfield.

That's the way I look at it.

I do think is traditional for based on your playing timer team record or short writing. It's going to write playing time on whatever the threshold is it becomes 1/4 that's more problematic for me than 1/5 but regardless I will still I will still say that they basically gave up nothing for Baker Mayfield so much that he comes up for Baker driver or if you well enough were the just so this is where I basically am here that we really didn't move the needle too much in terms of win loss, play, offer no playoff. I don't understand what the urgency is from, whether it's Scott Federer or David Tepper to save Matt rules job because I think will all be able to understand whether or not Matt rule has made progress as a head coach. There are very easy things will we can stop with the preset penalties we can stop wasting timeouts for no reason we can make right so what wins or losses aside, I think it will be obvious to most people, whether or not Matt rule is any good at this and you know, going 98 as opposed to 89 probably isn't going to tell us so I don't even know what were trying to save Matt rules job because what fun it will be obvious to us by week six. Whether or not Matt rules good at this or not. I figure David Tepper – which are statement rules job. I think that David Tepper is doing exactly is acting owner exactly what we should expect to choose from. This plan's little girl take our time and our spacious kitchen crew.

Years later, that's not what people who have $60 like we now know were Christie Charlotte the couch right away. I can't write things happening behind the scenes and that will coach wouldn't talk to the players can't be there. Took the job you really want Tepper would like while you should probably already ready to go on for Matt rule. He's just remember your ability of Stafford Carson rinsed juror Dr. quarterback to one important time their availability called artificial acceleration David Tepper's approach and timeline that resulted normal tree clock just so to me this really bad money, bad money, but it is Mayfield. If Mayfield proves to be good enough or they win enough games then. What a waste it was to trade future assets to move up and get Matt corral in where they got him where he might've been available where they picked in the fourth round. So let me ask this question and will take a break. One of the chances that Baker Mayfield is the week one starter in 2023. You would guess cars during this class told clearly right clearly, this is not an attractive option. Probably never really had any interest. This is clearly a spot that is not extremely attractive to court right now so I think that as a result, if you're Carolina time somebody trade words if thinker is above average anywhere in the realm of 2020 2020 20 2020 Baker. It's a private year Mayfield with a chip on the shoulder 64.35%. That's probably specific, that's fine. I like 64.35% may be in a workout. I have my doubts. June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 1/5 anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen my senior writer CBSSports.com that will bring sit on Twitter pick six podcast moderator. They did an emergency pod for the acquisition of Baker Mayfield, which made me chuckle. So what sure what little relative to our like a little more underrated over the world drums concert downtown and drink. Preshow guy was working on the tour talk about talk about how he also worked for Robert, just wanted to install replaceable. I don't care I playing the stuff I want to play like blistered catalog they did. I saw him and Alison Krauss last month they did about three zeppelin songs exactly but he plays more art, you know, blues old traditional blues, then he does anything else because that's the root of all of that is right. Same thing with with the beetle. Same thing with the Rolling Stones. Their roots are all in the blues. So if you like the blues, which I do it so it's all good and I agree that I think zeppelin has become somewhat underrated is Lamar Jackson also somewhat underrated or maybe even forgotten among elite quarterbacks and is he going to get to Sean Watson money. What magnificent Segway. Thank you. You got it right back in terms of where people perceive him because even with his can be PCs or your purse for 3000 1000 probably Lamar has their agent showed immigration to the river and sprinkle the owners said Eric Acosta. He can just keep calling spot. You, your texting somebody interested each other text 2022. The same thing applies to GM to contract. There's only seven times. You can call the rug now desperate etc. miniatures to all electric – I happen probably end up pouring out my guess is a major way out the season ponders what the deal is making 21 purple. I can complain about the franchise to my guess, but it's primarily because Lamar has no agent, a lack of agent lack of urgency from a player perhaps to get a deal done because you have your agent on what makes it just a little more difficult than normal streamlined process the to me. Lamar Jackson is in a great spot if he stays healthy he could just play next year on the franchise tag and then play another year. I made the numbers that I read are going to be six I verbally wanted to try to route them to play out quail contractor put out to potentially over earlier would be $70 million in the market and get the $55-$60 per year as a free-agent court.

I we have two more minutes left of the right to the surprise with Will Brinson about a little over a month ago as May became June. The Mets were 10 1/2 games ahead of the Braves first of the three-game series tonight in Atlanta to in the loss column one half overall.

How you feel about your Atlanta Braves battle of Max's Max freed versus mixtures are tonight. I'm feeling pretty good Braves this is last year but I believe we are a team of the roster like the Braves were mostly younger guys, good clubhouse, Mark front office be. Last year they bolstered crazy Jock Peterson comes in just about perfectly like I should be aggressive and try to start and then you start to work your way back that brains are like crowded 29 and eight in the last 37 Mets are 15 and 14.

Since June 6 so good for the Braves. It should be a lot of fun in Atlanta this week we have three games Jacob ground still not back yet.

The mashers returns should be fun. Will Brinson I would wish you luck. But I don't want to. Well I would say that I don't want to thank you, love your talk you later you got this is the atom gold shell June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford whalers were coming to North Carolina transition of heartbreak. Figuring it out on the fly became 1/5 anniversary of the presented by the Carolina listen my