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Vaping: Clearing the air; Almanac: The invention of carbon paper; Cindy Adams’ bold-faced life; Love thy neighbor: Helping Florence evacuees; Kerry Washington on calling the shots; Doris Kearns Goodwin on whether we are living in “the worst of time”

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QuickBooks backing you good morning Jean Paul Lisle today I'm a maraca in this Sunday morning. By the narrowest of margins. The Senate yesterday confirmed the nomination of Judge Brett Cavanaugh to the Supreme Court. Read a braver will have the latest from Washington in just a few minutes and then will be clearing the air about an alternative to smoking.

That's a source of both controversy and cautious hope. It's called raping and towing the copal will be telling us all about it very everywhere sales of electronic cigarettes like Joule are booming, but what a lot of us see is a bad habit. Others are calling a lifesaver. If you think you will means the end of big tobacco as we know, ethical ahead on Sunday morning.

The promise and potential perils of electronic cigarettes now on Broadway Terry Washington who starred in the popular TV series scandal. She draws on a lifetime of experience. As will be hearing from Michelle Miller, your back always carry Washington seems to be taking a page from the character she played for seven seasons. We are never down power broker Olivia Poe. I'm a hustler.

If I sit around and wait for other people to create magic in my life and I will be waiting till the day I die later on Sunday morning carry Washington on her days in the Bronx, and now on Broadway. Then it's on to the New York columnist who seems to know everything about everybody. Have you heard her name is Cindy Adams and were asking them for million dollars for nearly 40 years. While I giving you information this event to give me something gossip columnist Cindy Adams has covered them all from Hollywood heavyweights to A-list authoritarians.

What was Noriega's complexion like up close. Not good, but how many people got that close to said not everybody is mother Theresa, if it please the court.

Cindy Adams with Judge Judy coming up. Steve Hartman finds the sentiment love thy neighbor alive and well in South Carolina.

Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin offer some perspective. During these tumultuous times and more all coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues clearing the air of tobacco smoke reducing the toll of disease they think is a hotly debated subject of our cover story hears Tony to copal what you did in the South and we are 13 years old think things are little different down here probably grew up tobacco country and try her first cigarette when she was barely out of middle school for the next 20 years. She couldn't kick the habit. Such, I think I might try the patches on title lozenges and stuff work will ultimately did work may surprise you. It's called in e-cigarette or vaporizer an electronic device that heeds what's called an E liquid. It contains nicotine and produces vapor but not smoke.

I realized immediately that I was feeling better.

I can breathe better doesn't take long for your lungs they can heal themselves that you feel like there were changes going on and I wasn't talking when I woke up in the morning anymore.

That was a big thing out.

Think a lot of smokers go through that a caucus is a wake-up I wasn't doing that anymore and I haven't been Nicole Crumley is now hoping to share that feeling and she's convinced hope save lives as a volunteer for an advocacy group called the Tennessee smoke-free Association, but he cigarettes are winning over more than just former smokers. In fact, they're getting closer support from a growing number of public health experts in June. No less than the American Cancer Society noted that while the long-term effects of E cigarettes are not known. They are markedly less harmful than traditional smoking.

But if you're still skeptical.

Well, there is good reason for decades. Tobacco companies use misleading science to sell cigarettes and smoking first is safe and that is safer more doctors smoke camels than any other cigarette but Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Commissioner of the food and drug administration believes this time really could be different thank you all for coming last year. Dr. Gottlieb proposed stork plan to help save the lives of America's 38 million smokers. It involves reducing the amount of nicotine in cigarettes and encouraging committed smokers to become vapors instead. If every smoker today switch to an e-cigarette would America be safer. Yes, the hope is that you can wean smokers off of tobacco altogether off nicotine altogether for but for component smokers. If we can migrate them on to less harmful products. Noncombustible products.

The presumption is going to be reducing risk in adult population so nicotine to be clear is not a cause of cancer. Nicotine is not. It's all the components of combustion nicotine is not a completely benign compound. It has side effects, but the cause of cancer and the carcinogens in tobacco are the products of the combustion in other words, it's not the nicotine that will kill you.

It's the smoke, but Gottlieb and others are quick to point out that what may be helpful for adults looking to quit is also enticing for teenagers maybe deliver nicotine to your brain reprogramming you to crave more and more don't get hacked. How do you balance the interests of adult smokers with the risks associated with teen years.

This is the challenge that we have your hooking a generation of young people nicotine and some of those youth will become long-term uses of nicotine or maybe long-term uses of E cigarettes makes America's best-selling e-cigarette is akin to marketing directly to teenagers. I just want to be crystal clear about this. We do not want a single teen using this product. Ashley Gould is chief administrative officer for Joule California startup that makes the best-selling e-cigarette in America and whose marketing practices are under review by the FDA. E cigarettes are now more popular among young people than traditional cigarettes is Joule.

The reason have no idea I can't. I have no idea the device is a sleek rectangle paired with colorful nicotine cartridges as potent as a pack of cigarettes and sweetened with flavors like mint, mango and fruit medley so people look at your early marketing and they conclude, how can they not know this was going to be attractive to young people, bright colors, cool flavors, people seems obvious is incredibly short-lived campaign and we headed over to do again, we would not do it that way.

The company wireless you know it was not done in a way that helped us achieve our mission. That mission according to Joule cofounder James Monsey's is to give smokers everything they like about the ritual smoking without the dangers so I love smoking and I know I'm not alone in this. It's been part of civilization has been part of human existence since about 5000 BC. Not so long ago. At the beginning of the jewel phenomenon you gave a talk where you said that there was something beautiful and wondrous about the ritual smoking. Do you think in creating Joule you've created something equally beautiful and wonderful. I think so here that I think we must wonderful parts of the design for consumers, since the finally been able to free themselves from cigarettes. You know I think what it takes is an equally beautiful experience, but a key part of that experience is under threat this summer, Joule watched as all flavored tobacco was banned in the company's hometown of San Francisco. Other cities are now considering similar restrictions, fearing that flavors attract young people have a lot of hate mail about this. The tagline was hashtag adult fluff felt flavors to earth. I don't love neighbor and you know what brings me to the table is less concerned for adults are really focusing on children, Leah Cohen led the campaign to ban flavored tobacco in San Francisco where she is president of the city's Board of Supervisors. What I learned not only in the tobacco initially but also taking on the sugary beverage industry is that they also falsify data and so that's what's most alarming if the FDA is going to really be studying that I want independent pure empirical research and data to drive this policy. Conversation: this policy fight is also personal. My grandparents died of smoking-related diseases and I remember after I finished finished college. I lived with my grandmother.

I'm in my early 20s and would go by her cigarettes for her. Cohen argues that e-cigarette makers are nothing but old-school big tobacco companies with the Silicon Valley phase walk into a vape shop anywhere in the country and you see another side of the industry. About half of the market is still made up of small businesses mostly staffed and owned by former smokers like Steve Nair and his wife Brandy tobacco product for purposes of regulation were not really connected to tobacco in the traditional sense.

You don't see any tobacco around here Nair's are co-owners of Mountain vapors a small chain that sells vaporizers and manufactures its own. This is the beginning of the process. Yet this is the flavor components all kinds of different flavors from the fruits, bananas, peaches, mangoes, melons, it's okay to touch it yet access to food flavoring you would use in bakery or candy making a home.

He says the liquid that most people vape is a mix of propylene glycol nicotine in flavors like these. If the FDA concludes that flavors cause kids to start raping and they restrict flavors or even band flavors so that when the shelf this shelf, I would not business you're done business would be gone were based on flavored products raping as an industry is really revolves around flavor products. We would not be able to compete very successfully with the cigarette if we didn't have these flavors.

Keep in mind the potential end of the vapor industry could drive more people to smoke but legacy tobacco companies are betting on it.

They to see e-cigarette's is the future you imagine a future in which Phillip Morris is no longer selling cigarettes that would be electric to foster the bet Andre Collins. Opelousas is CEO of Philip Morris International, which last year manufactured some 800 billion cigarettes and also Aiko's a new device that the company says could make the cigarette obsolete.

Can you say with confidence that if you smoke Aiko's, you're less likely to get lung disease. Yes, I consider less likely to get cancer, heart disease is all that is Aiko's heats real tobacco leaves producing an error so that Philip Morris International says is less harmful than smoke. The company has asked the FDA for permission to sell it in the United States. How after years of acknowledged deception on the part of tobacco industry do you convince not only regulators but the public to trust you.

This time when you say it's better look very nice to say forget mortgage company of them today because you can believe them yesterday and so do we think any smoker will move the figures without the will to change, the FDA is still reviewing Aiko's and figuring out how to regulate the entire world of smoke-free tobacco products, a process that is expected to take years. People like Nicole Crumley though waiting. She's now trying to convince her father smoker for years to try vape while also enjoying what she says are the benefits of a smoke-free life. I wish I never started smoking again with other health.

Health is improved actually went to Colorado last month and elevations a little different height when there is no way I could have done this before and now the page from our Sunday morning almanac October 7, 1806, 212 years ago today date for an achievement that was anything but singular for that was the day carbon paper was patented by the English inventor Ralph went a member of the prominent pottery making family in Wedgewood's Styler graphic manifold writer message written on the top sheet of paper was simultaneously transmitted through a thin sheet of carbon treated paper underneath to create a somewhat smudgy copy on the bottom page impact primitive as it may seem to us today carbon paper was the way most people made copies of documents, the following century and 1/2 eventually devices such as photocopiers and computer printers, carbon paper, all but obsolete and virtually unknown to the young people of modern times.

As this Saturday Night Live sketch makes plain looks so, but you did beat the deadline back to carbon paper on though it mostly is carbon paper is not entirely forgot to this day. A person sending an email to people in addition to the primary recipient will use the initials CC for carbon copied in that way at least carbon paper is still leaving its mark. Have you heard I just paid a visit to the inner sanctum of gossip maven Cindy Adams you've seen them come and go Avenue this is not been around since Lincoln I knew everybody, and they're all here in these overstuffed Rolodex is the famous the infamous Andrew and the forgot what can I get off you find phone lines connect the world to the Park Avenue penthouse of gossip columnist Cindy Adams. I like giving you information this event to give me something since 1981. Thank you, sweetie.

Her column has been a fixture of the New York Post -like care for Saatchi's final hours. The tabloid doubles as wallpaper in her home office staff is who remembers it. How do you define gossip. I don't like the word gossip because it's pejorative. It doesn't have to be nasty and biting. It should be chatty.

It should be funny. It should be something you do over coffee in the morning. The 88-year-old is guided by a very practical philosophy. If you were good to me and you, my friend, I will be loyal forever. If you are evil to me. If I don't get you in this life on get you in the next one in this life.

Cynthia Heller was raised in New York City by her single mom, Jessica.

She moved my hairline back.

She fixed my nose. She made me lose weight. She sent me to a drama school. She sent me to an elocution school. Usually when someone tells that kind of a story. It's followed by and I resent her for doing that.

I'm grateful if she hadn't done that for God sake, I would look like Bloomberg. Not a bad looking guy. He's a rich guy. That's what makes him look good.

She modeled she says she 157 beauty pageant titles and did 1952 Cindy married comedian Joey Adams not to be confused with Joey Bishop. He was not the Seinfeld of today or the Bob Hope yesterday they had a number one lifestyle.

So how old were you when you got married, depends, I lie so much.

I would say about 17 I think you were 22. No I wasn't. That's what some sources say.

Some sources have me as 105 also but no one said that I can barely walk and then I'm dying Thursday. I was about 17. Joey was 41 and seemed to know everyone in show business and politics.

I was going to dinner with Joey's friends like Frank Sinatra those of the people that I grew up with.

Joey was writing a humor column in the New York Post when the newspaper asked his well-connected wife to write a column of her own. No, I never wanted to do this, never. I wanted to write the great American novel. But what movie stars and mobsters revealed to Cindy often made front page news.

How sweet it was secret hotel romps of Donald and Marla. There's Marla Maples. Cindy was especially drawn to authoritarians, the Shah of Iran and Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega. What was Noriega's complexion like up close.

Good people that that close to sit. I'm really close. I did not Americanism.

He wasn't attractive, but something about dictators, etc. active who has been your favorite dictator would have been Sukarno because I live with him for so many years.

This is Sukarno. For those who need a refresher. Sukarno led the Indonesian independence movement in the late 1940 and then seized total power. You were helping him write his autobiography wasn't helping.

I was writing it was as told to me, autobiography of a make a pass at you.

Oh well. Naturally, I would expect it to turn down a dictator.

Alisa oh, honey, take it easy way for Pete's sake. I'm not the type right now I need to get a story.

Joey's 80th birthday party was a famous event and infamous event. If you're indicted, you're invited. The guest list included crime family boss John Gotti, queen of mean Leona Helmsley and certain noted shoe collector mother Marcus with my friend when she was on trial. I was with her every single day.

She couldn't remember where she put US$800 million. It happens. That's what I said. Joey Adams died in 1999. He and Cindy never had children and a friend gave Cindy a Yorkshire Terrier Jesse became the love of her life today. Juicy is the new chassis every December.

Juicy takes part in a ceremony that Cindy started at Park Avenues Christchurch the blessing of the animals had llamas. We had goats with head pain. We've had chickens without horses outside get the dog don't dog because I travel too much I travel. Also, I also have a dog when you get a staff you can't have staff what CVS is. Peggy is so little, well to be honest with you, Cindy also has human friends including Judith Schein plan, known to millions as Judge Judy. If I'm not getting the true story ugly and unpleasant and I am ugly and unpleasant person they met 20 years ago. We play gin and we can play gin for whole day we play Jen on a plane right judge Judy readily testifies to her friends character love of America is very serious love of New York City is very serious love of animals is very serious for loyalty to friends is very serious.

Other than that she will pay on anybody.

We spoke at Frisco by Scotto, a favorite restaurant of Cindy's and the presidents. I know Donald Trump longer than you are alive, the night Donald became president that was with him in Trump Tower and he leaned over to me and he said can you believe this, he was always good to me and I will always be his friend.

The only time he was ever angry with me was when I thoughtlessly did not go to his father's funeral why I didn't go. Who remembers and he was angry. He said you didn't respect my father at this point in Cindy Adams's boldface life. The only ring on her finger is the one she received from former New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner and my names on it. If you see my name on the side because if your name is not on it. It's not legit. This way they know. If you try to hock it or sell it. Did you ever encourage her to date again. You know that's an interesting question. Men were in their 60s want somebody was 19, they are what they can do for me there is Rudy Giuliani a single way. Love thy neighbor. That's our real life lesson for the day from Steve Portman for many people flooded out of their homes in and around Myrtle Beach South Carolina.

The most welcoming port and storm has been a total stranger comes to my house and pool. You can go about you, not really how so big 70 room house really is to suss out Bill Whiteley, Jared Cox owns the Midtown income throughout the flood. He is been open for business.

Jared talks, most of which were more like open charity will take care of today. Jared has given away more than a thousand free nights to this community's poorest and most vulnerable evacuees. I don't know what we would've done. I don't know where were they right now so many other ways what they think you there's no words to describe what it means to our family and Jared has taken every member of these families, no pet policy be damaged. Midtown is welcome. Dogs tortoise even a rescued baby squirrel named Mr. squeakers love the labor are supposed to read that somewhere no more to a mama told me the loan, or you don't trip so far. Jared has given away about $50,000 worth of goods and services even more important. The generosity is inspired. People started running to me right away cannot help what can I do brought diapers, ice and plenty of food. Anyone staying at the Midtown now gets three square meals a day that from the new shoes on their feet to the hairs on their head. We did not see a single need go unmet. Here, especially for the children who now play wonderfully oblivious to the suffering that surrounds them in an attempt to return the favor. Some of the parents of been picked again with housekeeping another chore jerk appreciates the effort when he says the best repayment has been the clan on paper.

Thank youse and the just knowing with absolute certainty that he is made his mom proud her name is Kerry Washington soon to open on Broadway. But first a conversation with Michelle Miller today determine your political survival is Kerry Washington and Olivia Pope left an indelible imprint on pop culture. I she made the deer. If we see our broker irresistible seven seasons on ABC scandal your back always as incredible as it may seem now. Initially, Washington wasn't even in the running for the role little bird told me the network wanted to cast her as a white woman. I think the network when they read the script assumed that she would be a white woman because that's what privilege looks like training very much like Kerry Washington the first African-American female lead in a network trauma in nearly 40 years, the audiences said that you could do that then people would watch that if you build it they will come. Now Washington is building on her popularity as she enters her next act. I ran about being on stage way before. I thought about being anybody screen anywhere she's producing and starring in American sign began performances last night you said in the police station. It's the story of a mother and father trying to find her missing team will know she wanted to play the mother I'd never seen a character like Kendra before on stage and yet she's a black woman that I think I knew I wanted to be able to have people meet her and hear her and know her heart is certainly applicable sons and mom straddles world is Kerry Washington did. She grew up the daughter of a professor and a realtor in the Bronx and was educated this Manhattan private school.

We went to Spence. I did go to span did you live that life. I'm deftly navigating being a kid from the Bronx riding the bus to the subway to go to the wayside to one of the most private for girls in the country in the world. That's one of those places where I feel like I understand what Jamaal is going through crazy and there's a lot Taylor Washingtons photo Sears along with fellow mom Jennifer located in the day, boys and girls club. This is a it was in a dance class that their instructor gave Washington in early lesson in standing tall.

He gave me the wet and the top of the dance number and then the next week he that gave it to another girl to Ron that I had getting only have to speak up 41 Washington says she's still speaking up and in control you're producing your day. You are acting you are in the film and television series carries making that happen because Kerry has to flare if I sit around and wait for other people to create magic in my life and I will be waiting till the day I die. I get to bring my own black girl magic into the world as best as I see fit and and that's what gives me the life I have today NFL player non-Diaz and their two young children while she doesn't speak publicly about her private life. She got look back on this step she took to get here.

That's her and Mr. and Mrs. Smith like climbing up and out and bought anything I and Jamie Foxx playing two different wives one the other in Jango unchanged. Just knowing that you so much. That is my husband life.

That movie was produced by Harvey Weinstein one year ago, became the focus of bombshell allegations of sexual harassment and assault which is denied when you heard about what took place.

Did a flash come to your mind with dealing with this man. It's funny, I had to spend like five places that revelation and awakening that we had as a culture has been hard for a lot of us because it made us flashback to all kinds of things with all kinds of people at work or in our personal lives. It's hard to not be in a state of PTSD. A lot of the time.

Despite the challenges she sees progress. Good thing that has come out of it is that there is more truth telling and there is more truth that we have been able to come together and say enough is enough. Whether it be in the Weinstein Company or in the White House, there's no turning back. I denied the allegation immediately, surrounding one Supreme Court has stirred so many memories of that other one from 27 years ago, my name is Anita F. Hill hearings Washington says she knows something about me graphically of his own sexual prowess. Having studied Anita Hill. She played in HBO's confirmation she's really taught me what courage looks like.

I realized in playing her places in my own life where I have not told my full truth and I'm just so grateful that she was willing to on your kneecap for me and I see your mind spinning. Will you tell it now.

Well, some of it. So what did she do instead thousand 18 she joined fellow actresses and producers to start times up an organization that helps combat sexual harassment and assault in the workplace. We are creating work environments that are safe for women because we are in charge and were saying we won't stand for producer who thinks he can say that to an actress because she's doesn't feel empowered were calling the shots and she keep calling the shot until change, because as a culture we tend to look past women are look past women of color. When we put ourselves at the center and we give value to the stories of women of color, it becomes a social act of rebellion. It's not what I'm intending to do, but I'm not to make myself small. What to make of this complicated time in our nation's history. Some thoughts from historian Doris Kearns Goodwin everywhere I go people stopped to ask.

Are these the worst of times know they're not history reassures us imagine Abraham Lincoln entering office with a country about to rupture into a civil war that would leave more than 600,000 dead, imagine Theodore Roosevelt thrust into office when conflict between the rich and the poor had grown so intense. Talk of revolution filled the air. Imagine Franklin Roosevelt coming into power. The Great Depression had paralyzed the economy and the spirit of the country. Imagine Lyndon Johnson taking office in the wake of Kennedy's assassination in a civil rights bill was mired in Congress and racial issues. Here the country. Although these four leaders possess skills and strengths uniquely suited to guide us through leadership in a democracy requires a two-way street at each crisis healing change percolated from around citizens joining together with their leaders toward a moral purpose. The antislavery movement the progressive movement, the civil rights movement all laid the foundation for enduring change.

While today's disunity is not as dire is potentially deeply damaging the inner Roosevelt warned that the rock on which democracy would founder would be when regions, classes, races and parties regarded one another as the other rather than a citizens marked by fellow feeling pending together for the best interests of our country.

We must remember as Franklin Roosevelt insisted that problems created by man can be solved by man. So long as we pulled together toward a common end and there are many encouraging signs of healing, a wide and deep burst of citizen activism young voices. The NRA is made up of American people like myself who support our Second Amendment a diverse raft of new candidates including record-breaking numbers of women whether the change we seek will be positive and inclusive depends not only on our leaders but on us what we as individuals do now how and if we unite can make all the difference. It is time for us to heed Abraham Lincoln's plea that we engage together and come in enlarged consideration, ranging far above personal and partisan politics. I believe the renewal of the moral vision and purpose that built and sustained us in past turbulent times can do so again I'm maraca thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning progress and crazy to its final season is the point is we need people in the best way to protect good people is to convict final season Millstream