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CBS Sunday Morning hosted by Jane Pauley. Lee Cowan looks at how Russia's state-run media is painting a false picture of its war with Ukraine, and David Pogue finds out the risks facing Russians protesting in the streets. Plus: Anthony Mason interviews musician Keith Richards; Gayle King talks with Oscar-nominee Will Smith; Luke Burbank sits down with Amy Poehler; Rita Braver chats with Broadway legend Harvey Fierstein, author of a new memoir; and Martha Teichner examines lessons learned by schools from the COVID pandemic.

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Of course Vietnam was our very first television for this is what the war in Vietnam is all about cameras brought the horror of war into America's living rooms as never before, helping to fuel the growing antiwar movement, Russia's Vladimir put in is well aware of that now much amplified power, which is one reason he's clamped down on the press and preventing the Russian people from learning the real truth about his invasion of Ukraine Lee Cowan this morning takes us to the front lines of this all-important battle over information. If there's one thing led to fears 60, the better they actually don't have access to information that would make them doubt what they hear from the government expressing any doubt.

In fact has been made a crime all and yet in the face of those restrictions every day. Russians still finding ways what their outrage be no better story coming up on Sunday morning a fresh Prince morning television can walk in one interview and as you'll see, anything can happen at the age one.

I had just begun on my journey to the GOP to everybody knew what was a helluva see, but will Smith reaching the GOP wasn't easy and I look back on most pain in those difficult moments and if I could change it.

What are you know the answer is probably no a very different side of will Smith ahead on Sunday morning really set out front, the Rolling Stones, Keith Richards is a music legend with some legendary exploits to prove it.

Still, Anthony Mason found Richards in a surprisingly reflective state of mind.

Less than a year after the Rolling Stones lost drummer Charlie Watts, Keith Richards says he and Mick Jagger are writing again.

What happens when you guys get in the room a lot of music there. And this past week Richards had a real reunion with his solo for the soul back together little or no will be Keith Richard later on Sunday morning Looper Bancshares a few laughs with Amy polar plus a story from Steve Hartman and more on this Sunday morning March 13, 2022. Russian state media calls the war in Ukraine a special military operation. Words like war and invasion are for men by law Lee Cowan will tell us more about this information blackout, while David Pogue looks at why Russians are taking to the streets in protest. All the same. We begin with Lee Cowan just day except Russia began its unprovoked attack on cities all across Ukraine 22-year-old Julia Timo Schinkel called her relative in Moscow. I told her about spending a night in the basement of our building. Kyiv waking up at 4 AM to the sounds of explosions and fighter jets. My aunt told me well you don't know really know. Yes, she said well we're saying one thing and being used here, seeing another thing on the news. My response was like it's not been used. For me it's my reality. And that's what I see with my own eyes to motion go went a step further. I sent her pictures of my mom being in the bomb shelter us fleeing on the pack train and she blocked me she block you sent the pictures. Yes yes exactly, are you okay I don't know what's going on but are you okay and not yeah it's a yeah it's shocking for me.

I know that everything that they receive is like sort of flipped the coal black, white and white, black and that's how Dave have been living for decades. She was beside an overnight process. It is a sheeting through the petition, you must be request immediate goods is divided into knots of the systemic exclusion for those living in Russia, the singularity of the state run media is impossible to escape Russian military traders doing God's work in the Russian Orthodox Church endorsed the so-called special operation is a moral imperative. And if you're wondering just how Vladimir Putin can convince so many good people to believe in such bad things. Consider this propaganda rests on what people already believe what people already think they feel the things that they accept the deepest level Mick Cole studied propaganda most of his life is a professor of public diplomacy. The University of Southern California by alleging that Ukraine is dominated by Nazis that it is necessary for him to repeat the historic mission of the as it was then Soviet Union in defeating Nazis. This is incredibly powerful stuff to invoke his emaciated which different he says is just how many lives are being spread the volume of disinformation coming out of Russia over the last four years is unprecedented.

Something like two thirds of Russians are in favor of the war because war that they are proving is not the actual war that's happening. Just this past week with disturbing pictures emerged, bloodied, pregnant woman stumbling out of a bombed out maternity Russians were told she was an actor probably was given pregnant. She gave birth this past Friday so they're buying right most part it's hard not to buy it. They have now blocked Facebook block twitter they're slowing down you to basically all of Russian independent media has been rooted out there or what was left of it was rooted out in the last week.

Now that's all gone completely and it's just state media Julia Joffe discovered the Kremlin for more than a decade, and is currently Washington correspondent and founding partner of the new site.

Talk Russians can be very good at suffering for because they believe is just and I think that's what the Kremlin is counting on.

If they keep telling the Russian people that this is a just war in a war of liberation. People want rise up and demand change when their economic circumstances get worse and worse which they will. If there is any good news. Experts say it's the propaganda usually backfires. Anytime you introduce a distortion into the meteor environment. Somebody has to pick up the tab down the road when it turns out that the world is not as described and in Ukraine the first Russians to recognize that may eventually be the invading army itself in their seating when they roll into Ukraine. There, seeing the resistance there.

Seeing how much people hate them there seeing tens of thousands of Ukrainians time to go home and cursing at them and it's one of the reasons the advances in going very well because everybody was lied to and they can see it as Russian troops continue to result Julia to motion go hopes that why won't Vladimir put one day prove to be the spark that ignites a revolution was the one thing you want the average person in Russia to know about what's going on. We fully support those who find courage to speak up into resistor government knowing that most likely they will go to jail and I just want to hug those people and tell them thank you.

We just need more of those kinds of people in Russia to speak up and to stand up against their own dictator, this is David Pogue from the beginning of Russia's war on Ukraine, protesters have filled the streets around the world. But now we are testing a horse than it is in Russia. According to Russian human rights, the government arrested more than 13,000 protesters in the first two weeks of your stop. Nothing things they need people to weeks ago. 18-year-old Eva Eva nova was among 1500 protesters in state even in the says that she was holding the police station for 28 hours in order to sign it of guilt because I don't think that crazy trying to scan yet years of J, but that wasn't the worst part thinking, change your mind and use…) I so people broken.. If you disagree will be criminal. So it's five years.

Demetri calls was a Russian parliament member from 2011 to 2016. He openly opposed Vladimir Putin's regime after receiving threats. He and his family fled the country last June. He said he could get all up on all politicians seem to parliament because he was planning an invasion in Ukraine to protest do anything under these conditions, not by impossible Eva Eva nova knows that protesting won't stop the war. But that's not why she doesn't. I don't think that just can't stop as special operation that I believe that's how we can show our protest and I were expecting rain and people. Furthermore, he wants people from other countries to see that our government is not rational people is not Russian government. Are you afraid now to do another protest. Yes, 10 g that I can get in trouble, but it doesn't stop me. You have to go and go, go, because you know that correct people position. Are you at all worried about showing your face on television little bit but I want people to see that I am the person that I have faith voice so we are you a very unusual brave courageous person were lots of people like you, I don't think I'm extraordinary girl.

Now I'm just just go. I'm sure that there are a lot of people like Russian I can see that time for a pep talk compliments of Steve Hartman Westside Union grades California we found all the recent delivery just hit record asked Frank to pearls like that little unscripted motivational gems are being collected and catalogued for this brief telephone hotline project I was at school. If you feeling manifested Internet express what you whatever your worry they've got a solution if you need a press kit.

Whatever your insecurity will restore confidence in capacity hotline is the brainchild of teachers sure Weiss and Jessica Martin they thought family and friends might enjoy calling the number but we could've imagined what happened is very shocking. Pep talk is now giving up the 9000 calls per hour, roughly half a million total and counting. It turned into a big thing spray all around the world. I would not expect this file. Jessica making her think you guys people want school did great job. Sure did give a gift to the world and the teacher saves more than those messages I don't support children, but we don't really celebrate how much they support and to be able to be comforted by them gives us great hope that maybe were all going to be okay.

If you ever don't know who to call it Sunday morning on CBS news radio and here again is Jane Pauley when many are well into retirement guitarist Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones is writing new music and getting back on stage Anthony Mason caught up with a man whose is legendary for his lifestyle as he is for his music expensive what you want to know he's in Steve Jordan on United rocks NYC benefit concert at New York's beacon theater Thursday night last solo album main offender in the watch chain we noticed he's notorious for his price is finally his most persistent addiction.

The cigarettes are going to think about it much anymore. Two years ago I quit smoking after five. Coulter a few patches for a few weeks and yeah sometimes you know the bell rings and something inside says in you just put why do you think the bell ring. Luckily I just don't miss it. And that's makes me feel good and tell I started rehearsing for the two muscle and then I realize 10 times more when you notice any difference in his vocal when he took over from stone last summer was filled Watts who never missed a stones gig died just two weeks later he was 80. That came as a surprise to you that it's me.

Yes, absolutely. I think it been trying to keep it under the reps for fruit, while last year so that he came to the car to show he had had around with cancer the year or two before the beat that one just got hit with the double whammy… Oh, did you will talk about whether the torture go on for a brief moment I think Charlie wanted us to go on the road. He wanted that to happen. That's my feeling without semi spoke to him where to look back and see Charlie. There is that is strangest since 7 million you know you are through these is usually expect faces with Jordan on drums, stones towards steadily for 60 years now except for a seven year stretch in the 80s when Mick Jagger wants to so Mick wanted to do separate things and I didn't. You went reluctantly. The since the did you know who you were outside of the band. Maybe that's one of the attractions of doing the winos find if there was anything else in the enemy just to look over the fence.

Richards has released three albums with the winos who quickly develop their own cell. It didn't.

We were on the line, save, we can get away with this new 30th anniversary box set of main offender include some of Keith's songwriting notes.

This is a facsimile of one of the envelopes you wrote. You interpret that for me will is that how you write songs yeah basically back of envelopes and just phrases strike Richards, now 78 says he's been writing again with the stone that would be interesting to find out the dynamics now that Steve is in the band's metamorphose something else so is working with Mick last week and Steve Lee came up was eight or nine new pieces of material riches overwhelming. Funny how that happens. What is that exactly the times like doesn't. You know why it happens.

You can't make it happen know is it's the muse could find her address stones planning to be back on all celebrate 60 years of making that going on what you think. Mick and I have not spoken about it. Serious level.

I don't know if you read it is dragged out. Most of seven. You can't load the sign of good and old you rest yourself, how much longer can I do if I did that I wouldn't be, and then I'd be always thinking about tomorrow.

July 5 to 25. You can't know I'll find out Sunday morning on the radio continues after this. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states something we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and purely as our strategic situation or situations not being matched up follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts take out with page again this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia.

Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just don't like you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts forever. You get your podcasts you are listening to Sunday morning on the radio writer producer, now director Amy polar is a woman of many talents. She's in conversation with our Luke Burbank Amy polar has been on some of comedies biggest stages and has delivered some truly memorable line when it comes to torture. I just spent three years married to James Cameron but before all that course. She was just a kid child to public school teachers in Burlington, Massachusetts, who couldn't quite put her finger on it but knew there were something she liked about making people laugh. How big of a deal was being funny to you when you were a kid like that part of your personality? Yeah feeling of knowing I can make people laugh for if I tried to be funny. It would work didn't try last that was mostly though the laughs. Polar got were intentional, especially as she honed her comedic chops first in Boston where she attended college, not Harvard. People should know that you know that it was Harvard when the people don't clarify.

People say I went to school in Boston Harbor and it was Harvard, plus more and then in Chicago, where she joined the legendary second city improv troupe and later cofounded upright citizens brigade okay since your your dancer with these national tours no strip clubs see and it was in Chicago where polar met young Tina Fey, whom she connected with instantly and then reconnected with a few years later Saturday night live. I love the people most important. I also love letting things go fighting for things you feel really excited that you survived. Also show not wanting to die polar left S&L after eight seasons play the role that may very well end up defining career Leslie no, I have personally patronized each and every one of myself, Tanya, I'm sorry about that. I stand to avoid talent and other discussing things nope could have been just another two-dimensional sitcom character polar and shows writers manage to do something pretty remarkable with Leslie. No, they created an entire approach to life. This is a whole thing. A lot of people, particularly women see as a way of viewing the world and their existence. She represented what this person in a job that fell like a low ceiling which had a lot of big hopes and dreams and she was trying to figure out how to work the system. System work for her without losing her sense of joy. Without it crashing while Hollywood can have a crushing effect on many people, women, polar has found a way to thrive and grow into an influential producer in her own right, relaxing nature documentaries and magpies crap shiny things to build inside her production office. She showed us some of the mementos she's accumulated over the years the Piney see all that was on sat behind his desk still, this is your real desk where you actually produce things for your production company paper cut. Along with producing a variety of projects. Polar also directs, including most recently, Lucy and Desi documentary about the famous couple and the only reason I love the sea exists because they wanted to be together so they could have a family and make the marriage work. So they made this show, and now the rest of the universe has it and they never got what they wanted, strongly believed that she shouldn't be labeled as she works really hard at work really hard at her craft women are causing I think that a lot but it's often not get into when I like to call his teaching is even I know she made it there are some parallels between your career in her career. I feel very connected to what I believe she was feeling are going to balance work and family. How do I take advantage of my currency opportunity amplify the voices.

How do I take up space in the room.

See had to deal with 50 years before I women like me media profiles of polar often focus on her role as a woman in the comedy world and is our interview drew to a close.

Just one more question, I had to get answers. They asked me to not ask about this, but I can't let this sit here and are meant funny yeah getting right now I'm really really proud of you.

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We need your help cover agent to fighter pilot to Fresh Prince Wels Mathis played his charming self and countless roles over the past 30 years. Now he's up for an Oscar for his work in the film, King Richard Gayle King has our Sunday profile just so you know where no, but will Smith is a pretty good instructor. Okay okay serving up to your knees okay it's all fun and games with some of those in our and quips are you distracted by my beauty is like this. Smith picked up a racket for his latest film, King Richard, and the Oscar-nominated performance. He plays the father of Venus and Serena Williams his daughters into champions on court for many people it didn't seem that Richard Williams knew what he was doing. He wasn't doing what people thought he was doing. He was he was trying to do his family right he was using tennis to cultivate his family to call to cultivate values just to represent you to be represented first. 53. Will Smith knows a lot about value superstar selling millions of albums billions at the box office conquering the big screen. This smallscreen and now is a best-selling author. Make no mistake, this memoir is not sugarcoated my suffering helped me to become who I am. It's a candid confessional of a boy from West Philadelphia. I was a weird kid with big ears what you think made you a weird kid. I can't live in my imagination.

I couldn't help but see things and why they were funny but there was nothing funny about his life at home, Smith had a very complicated relationship with his father, a veteran who ruled over the family with discipline here and for us at nine. Smith saw his father his mother and I didn't do anything. It is a little boy will what are you supposed to do you know the child mind doesn't work like that. I expected to be a superhero. At one point when his parents separated. Also, Smith says he thought about taking his own life and it was the only time in my life that I consider suicide, and it just was. It was my fault that you not all kids do that in their mind with you know it was it was somehow my fault that my family was falling apart as a child Smith coped by being a class clown's nickname started with the teacher, Ms. Brown's brother gave me the name was called the Prince charming for astronomers that I was the prince and then I added the fresh in its day it stuck with your car so did his you said you did your first wrap 12. Do you kinda remember what it was one I had just begun my journey to the GOP to everybody knew what was a helluva see actually wrote the on the way to the GOP he would reach the top, then so is the Fresh Prince of Bel Air new to acting Smith would memorize the lines of the entire cast, something he now laughs about today rookie mistake all 430s not going about but he did is always good all these years later the house is still fresh, so are the lyrics born and raised on the playground is where I spent most of my day chilling out Max and let all Smith could have stopped with the hit TV show. But that wasn't part of the plan you are asked what you want and you said you want to be the biggest movie star in the world's mystery came true with a string of blockbuster people make movies in a row about boys and men in black is did you ever think of your race as a deterrent for you in Hollywood, considering the success event. I never looked my race as keeping me from being able to do anything and been a really firm believer that first and foremost you gotta believe and when you believe and if you believe in the level of your belief will determine your ability to bend the universe. If you don't believe no bite really good advice right back to family is the father children tray from his first wife, Sharee Santino and Jaden in Willow with his wife of the past 25 years. Jayda Pinkett Smith. They are a power couple. Many believe they have an unconventional marriage.

So how you handle all the chatter then will about your marriage. I have decided that chatter about my life can be of benefit to people. I think the chatter is a really chatter chatter is the first stage II having a real conversation and been able to truly explore if some of the things in your heart are loving or poisonous you both of talk very candidly. It's a very famous story infidelity in the marriage and how you navigated that there's never been infidelity never been infidelity.

Jayda and I talk about everything and we have never surprised one another with anything ever what may be surprising is how Smith came to terms with the pain from his past. He made peace with his father was dying in 2016. In those last moments with my father when I was able to forgive my father had a shocking realization that I was able to forgive myself. My father dying started a new phase of my life and that new phase continues with the mission to make a difference.

Build a legacy that is lasting and meaningful.

So as we sit here today, there are many people looking thing will Smith is at the top of his game. Will Smith seems to have it all what you have left to do that you want to do. Life is gotten really really simple for me right now right think I'm a better actor that I've ever been and I think I'm going to know these next 10 years of my career I think will be the top of my acting performances but I also feel like I can help people. There's a teacher inside of me there's trying to get out of learned how to be happy here and I've learned how to create love here and I want to I want to share your listening to CBS morning on the radio today is the day. Remember to spring forward and set your clocks one hour ahead as we began daylight saving time coming up next weekend visit with Dr. Sandra Bullock then asked for carnival. I'm Jane Pauley. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning on the radio. Progress and crazy to the point is we need people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream