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I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning is a question of justice for all. Some 3000 people have been exonerated of wrongful convictions since 1989, the year a national registry began keeping count its estimated hundreds, maybe thousands more innocent people remain behind bars victims of mistaken eyewitnesses and accurate forensic science and racial bias among other reasons, Aaron Moriarty examines new efforts to right these wrongs. This is a picture of me in 1987, a faulty medical opinion.

Sent Joyce Watkins and her boyfriend to prison for life.

Joyce never gave up hope that their names would one day be cleared active had it in me. It was in spam in me to never give up coming up on Sunday morning a story of redemption. How an unlikely partnership is getting back lives to the wrongfully convicted on this Easter Sunday morning bells are ringing for our Seth tone sounds coming from the sport of the Italian countryside not changed much thousand years remove you have to smash the mold outside cannot duplicate every bill here is one-of-a-kind.

You bring in Easter head on Sunday morning Ben Tracy tells us about a new legal Porsche to make the fossil fuel industry. The next big tobacco. Dr. John the Pope talks with author Delia Ephron about her real-life love story David Martin asks if US military aid for Ukraine is enough to make a difference. David Pogue meets a man who stumbled upon treasure in the trash. Plus Steve Hartman commentary for the holiday and more.

It's April 17, 2022 and will be right back until proven guilty. But as Aaron Moriarty explains if you've been wrongfully convicted, reversing a guilty verdict can be all but impossible. I'm just not a person to give up.

I know that with somebody out there somewhere would help me. This is a picture of me in 1988 Joyce Watkins and her boyfriend Charlie done were wrongfully convicted of a terrible crime. The murder of Joyce's four-year-old great-niece Brandy took everything away from it took us from our families From his key took us from everything would work for Charlie done died in prison, but last December in a Nashville Tennessee court room 74-year-old Joyce Watkins finally heard the word. She had prayed for from the Davidson County Dist. Atty. Gen. Glenn Fong. I have been trying to get this done for a long time. How long it took her to value exonerations are rare, and this one might never have happened if not for an extraordinary partnership between attorneys who are usually on opposite sides, those who defend the accused and the prosecutors who put them away.

Her job is not just to see convictions job is to seek to do justice, district Atty. Gen. Glenn Fong says he is part of a growing number of prosecutors who believe they have to do more to uncover wrongful convictions and to prevent future ones would always have to be that only writing a perhaps wrong. It's also how did we get it will because we can't make that same mistake again forward in 2015 Fong set up a conviction review unit and to show how serious he was in 2020. Fong hired a lifelong defense attorney to run it. Sonny Eaton.

I think it would be fair to say that I probably have more heated debates than he might have with anyone else in the office but I wouldn't be doing my job. That wasn't the case. But there was little debate over the case of Joyce Watkins brought to them by her defense attorneys at the Tennessee innocence project you need to spend all of two minutes with George to realize that there is no way this woman committed the crime. She was convicted of doing. Jason Kitchener is the project senior attorney and it's not consistent with anything we know about Charlie or his family, either the couple's ordeal began late on the night of June 26, 1987 when a relative asked Joyce to come get her great-niece Brandy, who had been staying with that family member in Kentucky for two months. Almost immediately, Joyce says she knew something was wrong with the child and called Brandy's mother that look for pickup at the hospital, she said. With Joyce we all know why but by morning when Brandy's mother who lives seven hours away hadn't arrived.

Joyce took the child to the emergency room for-year-old seen here and she was transferred to Vanderbilt Medical Center was suffering from head and vaginally injuries. She died a day later, Joyce hit ever occur to you at that moment that you let me choose separate no, but the questions you asked for what happened to her. I told him I didn't know I could tell them something that I didn't know. I don't know what.

She also didn't know is that the assistant medical examiner had mistakenly concluded that the child's injuries had occurred when she was at Joyce's house. Once that opinion came out everybody just got laser focused on Joyce control you didn't matter that they cooperated with the investigation of the Meeting with the police over and over again without a lawyer and saying we didn't do this, the house can take whatever evidence you want photographed the scene, it just did not you heard at the hearing last December just how wrong her medical evidence was that you feel about broken broken real horrible Joyce Watkins believed the appellate courts would make it right. But the truth is without compelling new evidence. It's difficult to get an appeal let alone win one of their appeals were all denied with doing time you did Nathaniel.

John is Charlie's oldest son to visit him while he was in prison going to see her little no, have believed him down and hurt all over. Charlie done died of cancer in 2015. Later that year Joyce Watkins was granted parole and released after 27 years in prison. What was your mission.

At that point to prove I Joyce determined to clear Charlie's name as well. Was unable to do it on her own and turned to the Tennessee innocence project is a really tough road to prove that you are actually sent through our current appeals process. Jessica van Dyck is the director. If you're on your own trying to do this and trying to get medical experts to help you and try to get back in the court in litigator complicated appellate process doing that on your own is almost impossible and it takes time, time that Joyce didn't have so her defense attorneys did something that was once unimaginable, they went to the District Attorney's Office that once put the couple behind bars and asked for a new look at the case, there's often controversial political nothing adversarial about it. If there is evidence that these people are innocent went to prison for something that they didn't do. There does need to be a fight about it. We should all be running to the courthouse as fast as we can fix it.

Last fall, Sonny Eaton filed her report. Her conclusion the wrong people were tried for Brandy's death. We have so much information that these injuries with this child happened before ever getting Joyce in Charlie's custody. They were the only two people to help.

For this child less than two months later in front of a court room filled with Joyce in Charlie's family and friends.

It was official Watkins this charge against you is dismissed into the family of Charlie done charge against Charlie done is dismissed with a happy day. It was a happy day. There are now conviction. Review units in 28 states, but the process does not always run smoothly.

Some state officials, fearing that reopening cases will clog courts, oppose any efforts to make it easier take what happened in St. Louis, Missouri more than three years ago the city's top prosecutor Kim Gardner found overwhelming evidence that Lamar Johnson in prison for 27 years was innocent of murder, but the Missouri Atty. Gen. continues to defend his conviction. Johnson remains in a maximum security Missouri prison program stay do think it's offensive that some court or Atty. Gen. would try to intervene and keep someone in prison who the district attorney had properly investigated and determined to be innocent. What about all the DA states attorneys to say we have to protect the integrity of convictions we have it wrong.

Getting it wrong in the case of Charlie done in Joyce Watkins caused them to lose everything. Joyce will still need a pardon from the governor to get any compensation and so far there's been no justice for four-year-old Brandy whoever killed her is still free and have a category.

You never had time to grieve the loss of Brandy. No, I have a multiple of you could have great church bells are ringing the world over this morning, especially in the Italian town of any okay. Seth Stone has sent us a postcard Easter Sundays have been in this way for centuries here in the Ridgetop town Avenue only builds time from 14 churches. This is the lesion. One of the lesser-known regions of Italy, but this otherwise obscure location is at the heart thousand-year-old tradition home to the business. Pasquale Marinelli was born into one of the oldest built foundries on earth. It's not just work heritage. Pasquale, it's a love affair. We all got them. I have a wife, but here I have a harem. He joked adding. You have to love bells cared for, caressed and touched the Coke bricks make up the base then layers of organic cement form. The bill shape which is ultimately cast in bronze. These wax details will become a sort of stamp personalizing the bill, but each one is already unique. The molds have to be cracked apart and destroyed as part of the process of removing the bronze. How do you feel when the bills town ring than the one doing the combined they soon try to understand. He chuckled the mine.

Yes yes I wonder if some of my ancestors made that rebel Pasquale told us to get excited because I know everything the goes into it. We asked him to take us up one of those towers. This bill made by his great grandfather Wally couldn't help but chime in, playing another one made by his father and uncle. Everything is handed down Pasquale's older brother Armando Bonelli told us how many generations stuck want the general social concern. I'm 26.

He said my son is 27.

Over the years they've developed some prominent clients including popes, each bill is blessed by a priest, Pasquale Bob Easter is tied to bills because the sound of bells is a sound of joy. The sound of resurrection.

Armando said basically bells communicated events, important moments have been marked with bills for centuries. Guide Massimo preshow explained first holy Communion, someone got married someone died. The died is a very low bone and it's a big interval single goal force.

The total time. The first hour the second ring phone will give you the quarter past so the thing will be bone bone 1145 sucks on these proxies to or groups to this foundry units Museum for 16 years for Americans familiar with the liberty bill. Be sure to note the damaged ones.

This cannot be fixed. Once a bill is cracked.

It can never bring properly again but has to be melted down and refashioned the spell was hit by lightning. They showed us the most dynamic step in which the heat up the bronze mixture of copper and tin in the word into bell-shaped molds buried in dirt was excitement in the air, even for this little demonstration is zero shrug network Homer Armando added. Hope to hear these bells ringing, Easter, joy, joy. Finally, the most emotional moment with a quote book group Toyota or breaking for as many years as they've done this so hot itself. It seems never gets old will complement the buying administration promised some $800 million in additional aid and weaponry to Ukraine this past week, but will it get there in time and will it be enough. David Martin takes a closer look from German and our technicians to body on reviewer. Her shift from 10 million pounds of weapons and equipment bound for Ukraine is enough feel what we all will return general Ben Hodges, former commander of the US Army in Europe shows your support for Ukraine is just too harsh. You have exaggerated the potential for a so-called World War III to the point they were making policy decisions based on exaggerated fear.

Fear of provoking a man who has thousands of nuclear weapons at his command and is willing to deliberately bomb civilians in an attempt to achieve something he might call his transition to this medieval approach of smashing cities some poets motorcycle below. Please stop killing me civilians.

So which is the residual settlement last week Russia again warned the US weapon shipments could bring unpredictable consequences. But that didn't stop the body administration from ratcheting up its support for your brain with 18 howitzers and 40,000 artillery shells is a standard artillery piece release all combat system Dharma Col. Richard Hooker served with the 82nd arable.

How long will 40,000 rounds last weeks not months.

Howitzers are part of a new military aid package which also includes 200 armored personnel. It will be characterized as I used to think that given these atrocities in the depth of the depravity of the actions of Russia that the West would become involved, but clearly the West has made a decision that they're not going to go in there with direct force retired Gen. Philip Breedlove is the former commander of US and NATO forces in Europe by demonstration says it has spent more than 2 1/2 billion dollars on equipment for the Ukrainian military is not enough. I don't think that the amount of money nor the amount of times of equipment that we've provided is the measure of merit. The real measure of merit is when are these weapons in the hands of the Ukrainian military so they can destroy Russian equipment so they can kill Russian soldiers because that is what will in this war shows Western readers failed to save the city of Mary Opal from Russia. Siege tactics forces and model you will are surrendering because they didn't have enough food and bullets. Very basic things we need to make sure that those things are levered to the front where the fighting is going on US two. Well, I think that we've done it in the past habit we remember the Berlin airlift was in 1948 when Joseph Stalin through a Berlin blockade around the city of Berlin.

US called his bluff with a massive airlift.

I don't think that should be off the table for consideration here. If US supply flights fly into Ukrainian airspace are they liable to be attacked by Russian aircraft. Surely they are. We took the same risks in the Berlin airlift good morning and is this just a question of calling his bluff.

I believe we are accumulating risk right now by doing nothing. I do not believe there is a no risk way out of this conflict we need for the Ukrainian storm windows five. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put her mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts is take out with preacher Gary this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed. What about if not George. George is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like to have more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, author and screenwriter Delia Efrain was trying her best to handle the loss of her sister and then the death of her husband when she got mail. She talks about love, loss, and more with Dr. John the pool.

Do you knows a thing or two about romantic storylines and lately she's been living with. If you were to summarize what happened to you over the last few years and picture to a movie studio what you think the response would be. I think they would and she would know you think we should meet. She and her sister Nora cowrote the 1998 classic room, you've got mail.

Suddenly one of lands on me. It's so amazing to fall in love, and how lucky that I got but before look came grief do you lost Nora in 2012 and her husband Jerome cast just three years later both forms of cancer. Every time I came home, he wasn't there to shows about every single thing in the world and yet he was everywhere wasn't do you cope with her grief by writing about darkly funny 2016 New York Times editorial about disconnecting her late husband's landline. I absolutely hate Verizon I spent four hours on the phone with them on a recent Saturday morning. I know for sure. I was disconnected three times. She got an email from Dr. Peter Rutter reminded her that going on a date, 54 years earlier set up by who else Nora part of the amazingness of getting that first email was that he said that Nora had sent us. I mean I just couldn't believe it was like she was reaching down to me. What was it about the Verizon article that made you reach out to Delia. She was single. You have remembered her all the course who forgets and Efrain are enjoying yourself. Soon Peter and Delia were an item at the same time while Cornell medicine New York Presbyterian Delia's blood tests were being monitored at regular intervals by Dr. Gail Robles was a cautionary measure because of Nora's leukemia every six months I was going to see Dr. Robles and she would take my blood and she would say something like this is the most boring what I've seen all day and send me off Dr. Robles as Dir. of while Cornell medicine's leukemia program. Delia's results continue to be boring for eight years, but then in March 2017. She comes and she has a blood test and she was getting ready to get up and go and something flashed on the review of the blood smear and I went to take a luck and all of a sudden there's acute leukemia when you saw that what was your reaction to remember. I think I wanted to run away the shock of this, I gotta tell you it's a gut punch for us and it's a gut punch to the patient. I spoke with Dr. Robles and she said when she realized that you had leukemia. She needed to tell you she wanted to run away all my goodness, Delia writes about the diagnosis in her new memoir left on 10th as she is sitting there the rest of the results come in results that leave no doubt I have leukemia.

I don't remember her telling me I only remember suddenly knowing it. She's going from feeling fine to this awful news coming in the hospital catheter in her arm chemotherapy.

It's absolutely unbelievable sort of 180 and in one's life when lady was over, Delia and Peter reason to take the next Peter and I were having some Sunday and I was making French toast and will you marry me. I mean the sweetest and I said yes to cherish and we got married in the hospital in the dining room on the 14th floor with just a very few friends anywhere there, yes I was there long time friend capturing the whole thing on video and I had the hospital band on my wrist and the flowers exactly that there was such amazing disconnect and yet at the same time it very loving with her new husband by her side, Delia tackled chemotherapy and then a stem cell transplant you go to see your transplant doctor and what is basically on the 20% chance of survival and and I said we just fell in love sent economics.

It was Apsley relevant right. I guess in my head.

I wanted him to know this matter. She says love is what kept her going, but the transplant took its toll and she was having trouble breathing so she said to Dr. Robles. Please come and see me and I said I just want I can't take it anymore and she was calling in people and asking for that end-of-life conversation so I was mentally scrambling for what would be a way to handle this and she said so brilliant she said give me 48 hours and if I get somewhere. Give me another 40 so she gave me hope and an endgame in one sentence.

I didn't want her to give up.

I thought should be okay 48 hours later, her breathing began to improve. Today four years later. There is no evidence of leukemia on any test and she is still very much in love when something like this happens where everything fits in some way that is just extraordinary.

It just makes you wonder about life dumpster divers fantasy hundreds of artworks, possibly worth millions discovered in the trash there now on display and on sale with David Poe.

Let's dive in. Jared is a skateboarder in 2017 he got a call from a contractor buddy been hired to clean out an old barn disinterred nobody's been in there like 40 years with Jared and his friend George Martin arrived at the barn they found a giant 40 yard dumpster full of art jampacked with art from front to back every piece you see is individually thick plastic with dust and dirt as they unwrapped the pleadings, something clicked and I'm just like, man this stuff. Who is this guy were their signatures on the signatures on everyone.

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Hines sword Google and were googling and nothing's coming up. Nothing finally a lucky break to small painting from 1961 and he said Francis Maxson Hines. So now we have a whole name. All right here we go to Google Mr. Google. What were we at Mr. Google revealed that in 1980 artist Francis Hines had wrapped New York's Washington Square arch in fabric at that point it's like this guy's famous wise in the dumpster can't figure it out. Jared became consumed by the mystery of Francis Hines. I was obsessed with the research every day whether I'm at work whether I'm home. The first breakthrough was an old book. He found on eBay and it was a treasure trove. It was a biography. It was his family.

It was his friends. It turned out that Hines was born in 1920, grew up in Cleveland served in World War II and became an illustrator for department store ads. Francis Hines had his teen minutes of fame in 1980 when you wrap the Washington Square arch Peter Hastings fog is an art historian and publisher needed JFK terminal.

He was in the Port Authority bus station. He stands distinctly as the only artist to ever wrap the building in New York almost every piece of artwork shown all of the energy occurs within the pension, but then Francis Hines disappeared.

Francis really retired to his studio essentially care about one thing, creating every day. I got flow of profits of making our so he would create all this are in New York and then truck it to the barn that was a storage facility and just keep filling it and filling it and filling it and just forgetting about it. Hines died in 2016, at age 96, but Jared was determined to resurrect his reputation. He began calling New York art galleries. I got so many doors shut in my face. Is this a snob think I don't know what maybe I got I got a wrong etiquette. I'm a little old school and blue-collar. Finally he met Peter Hastings fog, who agreed to help. I was really impressed him him I was blown away by the originality that I saw is there value to these paintings.

Yes it's it's relevant of the millions of dollars. Once all is said and done in May Hollis Taggart gallery will exhibit the dumpster treasures in Southport, Connecticut likely to sell for over $20,000 apiece and by agreement with the Hines family.

Most of the art belongs to Jared Whipple you feel like the art world is finally taking seriously the art world right now is taking me more seriously than I ever imagined in my life, undereducated skateboarding mechanic you know I can't even wrap my head around it. It's it's happening fast now. Maybe Francisca wrap my head around what I can't wrap I can't wrap my head around. It's a new tactic in the increasingly urgent battle against climate change. Here's Ben Tracy is climate change were disaster film it would likely be accused of being too over-the-top.

Wildfires reducing entire towns to ashes hurricane swamping cities around straining legs and with the ring field and raging oceans redrawing the very maps of Arcos and now many cities and states are asking who's going to pay for all of this. This is real where all the line of climate change right here in Charleston John to convert is the mayor of Charleston, South Carolina. The city's been battered by an endless parade of floods due to sea level rise, some desperate homeowners have resorted to raising their homes by several feet in the next 50 years will see another 2 to 3 feet of sea level rise. The water is our greatest asset is also become our biggest challenge so the city is raising large parts of its existing seawall and the Army Corps of Engineers says Charleston should build another eat miles of wall. The city expects an estimated $3 billion in climate change related costs. Can you raise taxes high enough to cover these costs. It's like any big project you got a look under every rock underneath one of those rocks are the fossil fuel companies whose carbon emissions from oil and gas.

Study after study has shown, are major contributors to climate change. Charleston is one of more than two dozen cities, counties and states that are suing these companies, including Exxon Mobil shell, Chevron, BP and ConocoPhillips. I feel contributed to the problem that you should contribute to the solution. So in some ways it is a bit of a money grab well to the extent the they participated in what created this need is a money grab because there's some responsibility for what happened. The suits are modeled after the big tobacco cases of the 1990s. Use the companies and industry groups of making falls and misleading claims about climate change. I'm sorry Exxon Mobil because they like to us. No court. William Tony's Atty. Gen. of Connecticut. He suing Exxon Mobil under the state's consumer protection laws pieces internal company research done by Exxon and Mobil which used to be separate companies shows they were aware of the dangers of climate change since at least the 1980s.

There is a study from. I think 1982 in which they produce chart that shows as the levels of carbon dioxide rise, the temperature of our atmosphere will rise and that chart is almost exactly right in the suit also sites these 1988 internal draft memo from an Exxon spokesperson advising the company emphasize the uncertainty of climate science. This is a strategy document from Exxon Mobil that basically says let's lie. Let's say the science is not clear, let's downplay the fact of climate change home points to ads that look like editorials from Exxon Mobil as well as executives own words. Evidence remains inconclusive as to whether human is affect global climate somebody's internal memos from the company knowledge uncertainty about this. Does that strengthen the company's argument that this was not settled sign know it doesn't because the fact is, is that they knew with a fair degree of certainty that there could be serious catastrophic effects from the continued use of fossil fuels.

The fact that scientists have questions about their data is unremarkable. That's what scientists do to your argument is even if they did know everything they knew enough.

That's right, Exxon Mobil is named in all 24 of these lawsuits and says these claims are baseless and without merit.

In total, the case is accused more than 40 fossil fuel companies of a disinformation campaign, a doubling of the CO2 content of the atmosphere will produce a tremendous greening of planet Earth. Some point to this video back primarily by the coal industry promoting the benefits of pumping more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

As more and more scientists are confirming our world is deficient in carbon dioxide. We reached out to several of the companies some responded writing they are working to combat climate change.

In addition, Exxon Mobil and Michelle said, these lawsuits do nothing to advance that goal. Climate change requires policymaking.lawsuits. Goldberg is an attorney with the manufacturer's accountability project group helping the fossil fuel industry push back against these lawsuits. The attorneys in some of these cases, there would say that what they're doing is trying to hold these companies liable for deception. Is that fair so that this is not an issue of who knew what or when or who said what federal government is had very some information that they're saying that the energy companies had going back 1960s and 70s and 80s. The question is will do about it. Today this scope of problems one requires live national approach Richard Lazarus teaches environmental law at Harvard cities and counties and states are be the ones left with the problem with the business step up to the plate. He says even if the cities and states prove the fossil fuel companies deceive the public about climate change. It doesn't necessarily mean the win really good job of showing that the oil and gas industry. I think engage in fraudulent activity the child be causation to prove that there fraudulent behavior is what prevented the United States from passing laws we needed to reduce greenhouse gas suing for the industry has filed a series of motions slowing down. The case, Charleston, South Carolina is bracing for a long and uncertain legal battle so if you're not successful with this lawsuit.

What does that mean for what you're trying to do to find a way to fund the improvements that we need, but I bet you've heard the phrase hope is not a strategy, hope springs eternal right, but in the meantime, the water keeps rising happened this past week. Our son morning cameraman Efrain Robles became United States. Edison, 33 years after arriving in this country from Mexico with his mom and frying says he's really very proud on this weekend of Easter and Passover. We have thoughts on war and peace and more from Yale University chaplain Sharon Kugler in New Haven and to begin Los Angeles Rabbi Steve leader during Passover festival of freedom, we celebrate two kinds of freedom. Freedom from freedom to we remind ourselves of freedom from slavery is an narrative to use that freedom to liberate others who remain oppressed God granted us free will.

Human suffering is therefore a human problem, not a God problem, we cannot only pray for freedom and peace. We have to work for them. There are more slaves in the world now than any other time in history. Their anguish is in the clothes we wear our coffee, our phones and in many even sadder ways. There are billions more people shackled by poverty, addiction, depression, anxiety, abuse, loneliness, and of course this cruel and senseless war in Ukraine.

The religious question the spiritual question the Easter and Passover question is, what shall we, who are among the freest and most fortunate humans who ever lived do with our freedom, and good fortune. Let's not congratulate ourselves until we use them to liberate our brothers and sisters in Ukraine and everywhere from the pharaohs of today we have been living with a deep burden of global unrest, uncertainty, grief, and fear that is starting to feel really defiant in its staying power.

Our spirits are suffering under the stress of it all. And now here we are gathered in this imperfect way across these many screens longing for connection for reasons to hope longing for multiple kinds of peace.

What can we do thousands of miles away from a new war new invasion to bring peace let us pray for peace peace in Ukraine, where people are fleeing, hiding or losing their very lives in defense of their home. Their way of life peace in all places where aggression, poverty, ignorance and violence oppresses and destroys our human family. Peace in our aching hearts so that we can be part of the kind of healing that is restorative peace in our minds to create a more just world peace in the light peace in the dark peace in the big piece in the small piece in the week. Peace in the strong may you be, shall, may you be salon may be shanty may bring and be peace appearances are deceptive and this morning. State Department has proof 46-year-old Vaughn Smith, Gaithersburg, Maryland was reluctant to even store. Oh yeah, that is always about the fact most people didn't know you have the skill correct guy cleaning the carpets, although a carpet cleaner by trade Vaughn's real gift is for worms is what linguists call a hyper polyglot defined as a person who can speak at least 11 languages as someone who took four years of French in high school and only remembers the Quito. The idea that anyone could speak 11 languages is unfathomably Vaughn doesn't just 11 as the Washington Post recently verified he is fluent in or has a basic grasp of all these languages, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, this may take a while.

Speak some agreements because pretty well is become Estonian. He also knows Welsh nobody Norwegian doctor probably debunking Japanese corporatists Hebrew give up a shot even American sign language that I have Vaughn studies mostly with apps and books uploading new words and phrases with almost fiber-optic speed sucks and so far he is learned about languages people immediately like you more when you speak their language. Most of the time.

Yes, that part of the draw for you.

Yes you never diagnosed Vaughn suspects his mother Sandra agrees that he is probably autistic. All yes that was the problem he had lack of patient communication. Not able to express my feelings properly or misinterpreting other people's feelings or intentions with but over the years Bob has learned that when you make the effort to speak to someone in their native tongue squeeze because people are so grateful. Friendships follow what's Maryland. It's about being able to connect people were so good. You don't need to know any language to understand the importance of knowing up with yours. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning me, Drew Barrymore, all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new show business podcast and in each episode mean weekly gastric and cover other quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist on the wall because well I and maybe you do too. From the newest interior design trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to wash her arm. Also getting the things that you just kind of will probably not able to do in daytime television. So watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast. It's a good news on the got