Jesus Was a Charismatic?

JD Greer, Jesus and the apostles were charismatics really understand the word charismatic you'll see that it is impossible to be a genuine follower of Jesus, and not be a charismatic, at least in some sense variations on what we think, that looks like in action, but essential to being a Christian is operating in the power of the spirit question, which is why I asked her author and theologian JD Greer is clearly on this issue dealing with the Bible really says about the important role of the Holy Spirit in the life of believers as part of our new teaching series called rushing wind if you like to catch up on any of the previous messages you can listen online, free of charge. JD Greer.com but for now let's dive into today's message is castigating it out and opened it to the book of Luke to be between their acts and we are or tracing it easier for the Bible that is exhilarating and that is exciting, at least to me. I believe many of you one of the reasons that Jesus died on the cross was so that you could be filled by the spirit. And so it's very important this topic that we are discussing. I ask you a few weeks ago. How many of you lean more toward the charismatic side and I also asked how many of you are more know a little less on the charismatic side and some of you were courageous enough to raise your hands. A bigger side but a bunch of the rest of you looked around nervously at what everybody else was doing to get out of the general consensus of the room before you chose aside for those of you that didn't raise your hand about being a charismatic or maybe your hands are still up from worship or whatever, but for those you raise your hand. I have very good news for you.

Great news and back that is that Jesus and the apostles were charismatics. I try to show you that today and for the rest of you to try to show you that if you really understand the word charismatic you'll see that it is impossible to be a genuine follower of Jesus, and not be a charismatic, at least in some sense now there's a variations on what we think, that looks like in action. Talk about those in weeks to come, but essential to being a Christian is operating in the power of the spirit. Now some of you me a short terrible what what what are you talking about the word charismatic is a good is comes from a Greek word charisma time, which means simply a gift of grace I charismatic is one who operates in the gifts of the spirit.

Now the word has become associated today kind of our common parlance, with one stream of the church but one type of church that is characterized by really emotional Christians really emotional worship people raising their hands all the time. Some of you that are not from that kind of background that might freak you out a little bit you like. I don't know if that's me in and I you come here nurse people with their hands in the air.

I understand I came out of a very traditional Baptist background and that wasn't something that we did at my church. A backup told me this before, but my first experience after got a call me to ministry being in a non-Baptist context.

I was at speaker. This was a prayer conference of their work. A couple hundred people. There was real young couple hundred people there from different denominations and there was a woman in the middle of my talk about three rows back.

I know she can't get this pained look on her face to put her hand up like this and I kept looking at her face like she got a question this is a really inappropriate time to ask the question as I'm in the middle of the sermon. So what was wrong with his life.

This pained look. I was like if she does she disagree with what I'm saying this you will) challenge me to she have gas. I'm just not sure what's going on. So finally I was really here that I probably stopped and said what did you have a question or whatever and she got this just the ghostly white face.

She was looking at her face and then it just occurred to you. She was, she sees a charismatic is a way to she says I miss you raise Israelite benefit you doing to testify that confuses some of you when you think when we say the word charismatic for some of you.

You know the word has scary connotations that go with it. A lot of this will reassociate you. I charismatic is your people do crazy stuff like you know snakes here in a minute before the record, just so you know we do not do that at our church brought us make this weekend you keep in the bag right because we are not going there. That is unfortunate that the word has really been regulated to only one stream of the church because every Christian is supposed to move an operator the power the spirit we might again come the disagreements about what that looks like exactly an action to be charismatic but leather or not we are supposed to be charismatic is not a question.

So when I say that I want all of you to become charismatics, not me.

Okay that you can all go out get a bidding hand tattoo volunteers know what haircut that's not what I'm talking about. I am not saying that at all.

I am not talking about you necessarily learn how to speak in tongues is on the Golden series. What I do want you to do is discover the power that God has made available back to a select group of you the power, the got is made available to all because there is an extraordinary power stream of power that runs throughout the Bible that I want you to be able to tap into, so that whether your parenting your children loving your spouse sharing Christ of the person you work with learning how to deal with saving your old life you were not basing this on your own. You are tapping into the limitless power of God that is at your disposal. That is what it means to be a charismatic, identical associated with the repayment in one stream of the church just means that we live and move in the power of the spirit today what I want to try to show you is that Jesus operated in the power of the spirit, the gospel of Luke. Luke goes to great links to show you that every gospel every article in the Gospels Matthew Mark Luke and John are obviously about the same character Jesus else on the same story. I don't disagree with each other right so they're all your told one story by everyone of the Gospels has different themes that they will bring out about Jesus. Think of it like a diamond you know that you can't turn the diamond and you're looking at it through a different angle. One of the themes that runs through the gospel of Luke is that the miraculous stuff that Jesus did the source of his power was the Holy Spirit. Now I know that a lot of you hear that your initial reaction as well about the source of his power was the fact that he was God, yes. But Luke goes to great lengths to show you that a lot of the miraculous stuff, but he did. Whether that's healing seen in the people's hearts preaching and praying with power resisting said that he did in the power of the spirit really quickly take you to a whole crush depth in theology about that looks like something down big time with me for about two minutes is a very deep concept that's gonna make some of your head hurts, but is very important in understanding what were talking about this week. The Bible teaches us in places like Philippians 2 something called become gnosis and what it means literally is the empty means that when Jesus was on earth he emptied himself. Paul says in Philippians 2 of access to his God's not begging me that he ceased to be God. It just means that at times he limited himself. He limited access to his God power.

So in other words, Jesus was not sitting around in middle school. Every time a question was asked they can one of the answer that one, because I'm a Mr. Jesus was not a baby in the crib contemplating you know the quarks into the nuances of a particle theory in physics is not what he was thinking he was in the grip he was thinking in the crib baby thoughts and he was thinking when he was in middle school simplest middle school thoughts.that was possible to produce good because he limited his access to his God's. That's why Luke 252 says, for example, that Jesus grew in wisdom and stature. You think you remember something about how could God grow in wisdom God is infinitely wise. The only way that workspaces verse makes sense if you understand it. Jesus have limited his access to his infinite wisdom. Therefore, he grew in it with you when I grow in wisdom or when Jesus makes a statement like the one he does in Matthew 24, 36, when he says I don't even know the day or the hour of my return. Only the father in heaven knows that you read and you're going to minute.

How could God not know the time was overturned because Jesus had limited access to that knowledge.

He limited himself and that's what we call become gnosis. Here's the question. If Jesus limited access to his God.

This, how did Jesus do a lot of things that he did. How do we overcome sin. For example, resist the devil you do miracles. How does he see writing the people you have such communion with the father that he always is exactly what the play had exactly what to say just the right moment and Luke's answer is the power of the spirit and that is great news for you why because you were born the son or daughter of God. Virgin board repairs told you what you were the line you write you your sinful just like me. Jesus did not do what he did in the power of God that he limited his access to that he did in the power.

The spirit of the same access as a power that you have access to. See Luke wrote the gospel of Luke and he also wrote one of the book. One of the book of access right matching go together is, one unit and what Luke does Luke and acts as he draws these parallels between the experiences of Jesus and the experiences of the early church and shows you that both are experiencing in strikingly similar ways.

The power of the spirit that I mean that everything that one did the other did the church that die for the sins the world the way Jesus did what it does mean is that they were both operating the power the same spirit some of you may never have seen this on because you think of Jesus as primarily one who died as a substitute for sense and that is what he is, of course, but before he died as a substitute for sense.

He also lived 33 years before he died. And there's a lot of things in those 33 years that were supposed to learn from and a lot of times we just completely overlook that we jump right to his death. Right now his death is important to take away from that at all.

Right to doubt his death is the most important thing about his life, but if his death enables you to live his life shows you how to live. So why don't you see is what you see some of these parallels between Luke and acts, because what Jesus was doing he was leaving as an example of a model to you and I will try to show you before I take you into this like any to review at least clarify what we introduce couple weeks ago. That is the doctrine of the Trinity. Megan, we just touched on it but so many people struggle with this and they did so will talk to review it again or clarify what you could do everything it the doctrine of the Trinity is that there is one God, who is existed eternally in three persons that people come up with all kinds of analogies to try to explain as I heard a number of these when I was growing up as a school by well-intentioned people by Christian people, but the analogies while they might on some level be helpful. Usually the analogies that we use for the Trinity.

There was much to mislead as they do clarify if you are my favorite heretical examples that you probably heard it okay God is like water because water can exist as steam he can exist is limit as as a liquid and it can exist as ice so it's gas liquid solid.

Therefore God is like water know God is not like water because water does not simultaneously exist as steam as liquid and as a solid what you just don't. That analogy is you taught the heresy to recall modal was literalism is godlike like changes forms like dog like a ghetto like today I'm a father died and execute wrath in the number put on my diapers will go with the baby and Emma Naumann to be a holy God's E exist eternally as three persons is not whatever the will of God is like little like the JV I am a pastor and the dad, husband and three different roles.

One guy godlike� Like I got to give as little as you put on the father had put on the sun hat with the Holy Spirit. I heard on guys like the eyes. This went godlike guy you guys got different parts to it is got to Ira's and it's got the corny and step out the white part.

I think that is the technical name for the white part of the sclera I think is actually so you know and only when all three together is that before I godlike that no does not like the because every one of those parts is incomplete without the other of driving. Jesus was not 1/3 God and only fully God when he was connected to the other two person he was fully God, hunters are all like examples that while they are good-naturedly just do a lot more to in my view mislead entity to clarify the only it only analogy that I'm comfortable using is actually a biblical one. If you press it for now. It also will break down. But again, it's a biblical one. So I think once a ground that is the analogy of the word Jesus is called the word of God. This is an analogy that the early church picked up back in my favorite historical personages going to be the first was the first Christian to ever dialogue with Muslims. This is like the seventh century or a century use this analogy is fantastic. He said when I feel something I want to tell you about like it at all and say that I'm cold. What happens as my mind thinks the thoughts I'm cold I foreman in the words I am cold in my vocal cords vibrate the air so that it carries these vibrations to your ears, which tell me which tell you that I told now in the active your ears picking up on those vibrations you would never separate out my thoughts, my words and the vibrations are all one that you never say I heard the vibrations of JDs vocal cord made beer but I didn't hear JV that would be ridiculous and one sister separate but in another sense that the same but he said he said God the father is like the mind. Jesus is the word and the spirit is like the vibrations that carry the word to our years that I did that analogy to press it hard enough to break down also. It is a biblical one, so I would counsel you to limit your analogies to about one and otherwise just embrace the mystery that is the Trinity right God the father like the mind. Jesus, like the word the spirit like that which carries the knowledge to our ears, but there is one God was existed eternally in three persons, I will tell you what, always tell you if your head is not hurt you are not thinking about it correctly because it is something wonderful and it is mysterious and it is also because it is God right now. Will you lay out now for you. The case that I told you the layout and that is really quickly. The parallels between Jesus in Luke and the church in acts because Luke is doing this intentionally. Elements of this.

Some of you. I love it that you take notes. Always take notes okay but if you try to write down everything about the say you can scribble your poor hand off so let me tell you that every week I put the full transcript of the sermon word for word jokes, lame jokes, all of it are in the transcript and I make that available on my blog on the upper right hand corner. It's always there and Saturday afternoon work for transcript. What I'm about to say what I said I would take you to take notes.

Just write down for nurturing others right on the warm and fuzzy things I say whatever makes your heart you feel happy. Write that down and then if you want some of the details that I'm about to share with you or that I will skip over the goodbye transcript you can plunges deeply sources. It's awesome. Okay. Here's a parallels in Luke, Jesus's birth comes to the Holy Spirit, overshadowing Mary Jesus's ministry begins at his baptism. When the Holy Spirit descends upon him in bodily form like a dove in the same way the church is born in acts to the baptism of the Holy Spirit descends upon them Jesus first sermon, Luke, chapter 4 is about the how the Holy Spirit had come upon him to set the captives free. Peter's first sermon was about how the Spirit's power had come upon the church to testify about Jesus immediately after Jesus's baptism, Jesus was driven out into the wilderness where he was tempted by Satan and Luke make sure to note is the only gospel writer to put this detailing their make sure to note that Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit right. Acts chapter 4 write up of the apostles, do all the bad times in their drag in front of the Sanhedrin, which is a kind of temptation and ask for eight says they were filled by the Holy Spirit that enable them to respond to their accusers and overcome that temptation. In Luke, Jesus gets sent out by the spirit to travel around Israel, preaching the gospel in acts Jesus tells the apostles of the spirit will come upon them to take them around the world with the gospel. Luke draws a number of different parallels between things that Jesus would do in the power.

The spirit in the same identical things of the church were doing the power of the spirit.

There's a handful of them. Okay, no chugging down miracles, B. A.

Miracles regularly identify so if you little bit because I think pretty it's it's a pretty cool thing to seek help Luke 517 Jesus heals a paralytic, but in Luke's account of this miracle.

He includes the strangest little phrase 570 and the power of the Lord was present to heal through diversity like will, of course, it was present to heal. Jesus was there but what Luke is showing you is that there was a power that was Jesus would tap into the power the Holy Spirit and when the Holy Spirit power was there. Jesus would use that power to heal to their times in the spirit war was upon him to get on the same way.

In the book of acts, the power, the spirit comes upon the church at different times, enabling them to do some pretty miraculous things sometimes is to interpret tongs. Sometimes you see in the heaven. Paul is able to power the spirit accepted 13 says the blind one of the opposite one of the people is about the persecuted the spirit of God teleports Philip across the desert, all kinds of righteousness of miracles to seconding prophecy prophecy and by prophecy I mean speaking God's blessing and the people's lives were making God's plans known to other people to do a whole week on this coming I'm two or three weeks so you might get into really deeply.

But what she got. Luke is that is that the spirit of God comes on the various people and God give them wisdom and insight in the speak in the somebodies likes of the God within the note when you see it happening in acts. You see, for example, when equipment when the Holy Spirit baptizes the church it says that the first thing to do is to begin to prophesy and Peter stands up and says this is what the prophet Joel prophesied about all you that you would at the sons and daughters would prophesy you see all these places throughout after the spirit of God comes on somebody and they say this is what God wants you know right now that I noticed a helical miracles prophecy Jason freak me out rebuttal, the church, you know some you like I got my snake right here in the bag.

I was really ready for this moment back okay I'm getting get to that. I'm going to get to explaining more specifically about how we are to react and interact with this. Okay, I promise I will do it in the series, but today I'm just trying to show you a pattern and make one point determined at one point helping you write one point I'm just trying to build up to that point right so I'm a was miracle of the 5 mL preaching pretty. Luke chapter 4 verse 14 says about Jesus before his first sermon, and Jesus returned in the power the spirit to Galilee and wanted us, he preaches a sermon the same language is used when people in the early church preached, Peter was filled with the spirit asked to preach 3000 were say Peter and John asked for were filled with the spirit, and they preached and defended what was going on in the church acts 431 says the early Christians were filled by the spirit and they went out everywhere, boldly preaching the word. Acts seven says that Stephen was filled with the spirit and he preached a sermon that ended up with him being stone not stone like a drunk sentence� Roskam alleges that in that sermon was used by God to convert the apostle Paul. Jesus told the apostles.

In fact, they were to get on the spirit that he preached Webb when they bring hazardous first couple weeks ago for my favorite is about Luke chapter 12 verse 11 and when they bring you before the synagogues and the rules of the do not be anxious about how you yourself say for the Holy Spirit will teach you. Now what you want, spirit he will teach us what to say and what to do right when we need. We just need to tune in your listening to Senate life with pastor, author and theologian JD Greer will hear the conclusion of this message. Next week, but in the meantime you can listen again or catch up on previous messages in this study.

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