Biden's Careless Rhetoric Endangers Americans

Today in secular present by the rhetoric against Russia now they will have destroyed me at the studio right now. Later in the show you get here from some experts like Mike Pompeo or trouble he's going to roll to talk about the work we're doing in terms of life and what this all means opposed real-world will be what is stated that's right so we are fortunate here Daisy J because of the support of the ACLJ members and community that we have experts like Mike Pompeo, they can come on and really break down things like when you hear the present United States say things about nuclear Armageddon. What that means yes you had to hear from him I Pompeo as well said due to your support of the ACLJ which I encourage you I was encouraged to go to ACLJ.org to donate. We appreciate that. I really would appreciate. I'm see if you can please do not go there in reading credible content go there and watch and credit card to put good by her team.

People like my Pompeo ritornello part of our team's are just random contributors that you're seeing on TV talking heads even as a parlor team who were involved in the issues that we deal with each and every daily to deal with, so good ACLJ.org to read up on some of the stuff they put out over the last few years there's years of content available there right now. People use that website leaves again to donate support these and sometimes watch our daily broadcast. You should really go deep dive into the content that there is really great. But today you're going to hear him secretary Pompeo specifically on things like what you said when the present United States makes a sort of grandiose thoughts and threats of earth threatens with nuclear war potentially coming out to our soil into your coming from Russia and what this all means and that's why, unlike a lot of organizations. We are the best of the best we find people who really know what you're talking about C-terminal former Secretary of State who is part of our team can really comment out when stuff like this happens.

Hopefully give you not only maybe some comfort with some understanding globally what it all means. Also, we are going to be getting into some of the life issues that they shall J is working on.

We always said that once the Supreme Court decides, and if they do decide to get rid of Roe versus Wade decision that the fight doesn't end there. The fight begins there because then the states are going to have all different sorts of laws off different sorts of restrictions and a lot more work a lot more aggressive work that has to be done.

I can set a state-by-state away and look even if your state had a trigger law or something that when the place that doesn't mean that's permanently in place for a lot of the states. We know this is going to be what happens.

The ballot boxes activate a lot of people. Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice activate a lot of people to go vote to get involved in this midterm election and maybe more so they maybe want to pitch that more than it is but it's true. It is making a big impact surreal breakdown that is well here about how were doing this across the country because we are again going state-by-state with the ACLJ to make sure that these laws are protected or new laws are being created and we started doing that even before you Dobbs decision came out but what you're going to hear today is some of the direct action that's going on right now in states like Oklahoma and states like Kentucky, where the left and Planned Parenthood in the big abortion lobby is pushing hard to try to get rid of some of these restrictions on abortion and there almost right to relitigate Roe versus Wade. There trying to have a bunch of many Roe versus Wade's across the country much like an Roe versus Wade where they found the right to abortion in the United States Constitution now trying to do that same game plan again by state in 50 different, not the tuitions. So it's a it's a real fight. Our attorneys are on it but you hear about some of that today as well when their big help the President bind is what he says they do it somehow figures out a way to codify Roe into law or a talk about that and so much more on this broadcast again will encourage you to watch as a social media like share do all those things. What you do. That's what's on Facebook like and share watch us on YouTube.

Give it a thumbs up judge a rubble at the plus of the thumb something on which way you see it and comment. Make sure your partner engaged but also visit ACLJ.org download the ACLJ applicant involved. Unlike a lot of sources you go to news you can't really talk back. Can't really get involved here. You can call duration, so different things but also you can support the work of the ACLJ which directly get you involved in the fight that is@aclj.org can ACLJ.org to support the work today CR credible content to other each and every day brand-new stuff but also can support and make a donation if you can know his heart right now you can secular folks are doing versus counsel timing could be better, a former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo inserted Pompeo I want you to try to admit it but I want to lead off with a question, is directly because the reporting on Pres. Biden's remarks is Democrat fundraiser where he says if there is a use of a tactical nuclear weapon by Putin. He doesn't see any way around Armageddon. And just like direct question to you Abby isn't really the only other only option is nuclear holocaust. If if Putin takes that kind of step coordinator Mark were both in terms of where they remained, how they were made and exactly what he said no. It is certainly not the only option for printing method to use that language is seemingly kind of just wandering or randomly in front of a group of donors is is is deeply dangerous, but not been reported by report and certainly read that those around whether Putin regret that leaders around the world have read that our President is talking about that in this way, and things are doing it its own eat uses like the passive voice as if you have any role in this is the President of the United States of America to say that there is no other option that this is just as nifty as if he is a passive victim of this is is deeply dangerous and frankly reflective of the week by important policy for the first 20 months of their administration. Another are many other ways that you can proceed. But most importantly there's a lot of work to do today to make sure the bun recruitment doesn't use that nuclear weapons supposedly of said they've communicated to the Russian basis. One diplomatic family states that this event would happen if you do this, but then he goes to this group of donors to your point if if he honestly believes this is team believes this is where we could be potentially heading. Do you think you should be addressing all of us right now. Like right now, this minute I mean if a device is how serious it is a court. Pres. Biden believe that that we sit on and that there is very little that did not prevent it from going badly and that the ramifications are deep and as troubling and is unavoidable. EE should have been on TV. The moment he came to believe that speaking to the nation for speaking to the world about the theory that the moment that we are in. But frankly, I think this was just another example of present bike just off the cuff just kinda wandered around just speaking speaking to extemporaneously saying things that no President has said anything of that Google didn't say that, at least in the White House buddy but more importantly to your point to the nation from the Oval Office and evening presentation in the way that every serious event has been handled by every present date for decades and decades really tough people to balance like how serious they should take. I made one hand, we know it's serious.

We were doing Russian if it serious if they use any kind of nuclear weapon. He was a tactical nuclear weapon is certainly an escalation. It then to say you not to jump to Armageddon is just a it's a huge jump. I know our audience within their tune grossed because of time to get this balance of him to get the reporting of what should I be doing right now and I think if if it keeps it at LMC statement to Democratic donors.

Like you said that's that's not addressed to the nation. If you really honestly felt that way I don't care by your partial body should be telling everybody that by doing returned to you also get your distinguish fellow with with the Hudson's tune into this video series directly to the Chinese people and it got the attention of that the Chinese communist party. They got in the letter that was legacy they wanted.

It was like their version of a cease-and-desist and tell people about the series. I felt like it was important to make sure that as we talked about the rest of the Chinese government argued that the Chinese people knew that we love them and were with them and that we understood that not all of them wanted to take Taiwan destroyed Hong Kong torture Uighurs in the last so I put together this little theory to cleave to park the car for or more other short there couple three-minute than they speak directly Chinese people about where they find themselves, and how it is prepared to assist the black date.

This irritated that his party greatly. We got a letter that was sent to the Hudson Institute from the embassy at the Chinese Embassy in United States basically saying shut up and then setting up all that said that the Chinese people are happy that this call was conducted by person at Harvard who'd been a former member of the Chinese Communist Party as best we can understand why I assure you, Jordan 90% of the Chinese people are not happy with their leadership and I can also assure everyone… Much like the ACLJ is staying in the fight and never gives up on this issue that matter so much to American accident. The duty they organize, they added informing about the Chinese people, and most importantly American people about how we can continue our our freedom and our liberty. Now this is troubling is the pull the stick may quickly pick up all the date the Chinese Communist Party through their Embassy in Washington sites in their letter saying you stop doing these videos is a Harvard poll and you look at the poster and they've got direct ties to his admit former member of the Chinese commerce pricing. They have 90% up or even that number like no government has 90% approval even in a free and fair country in an apartment is behind that I mean that that's pretty shocking question. I haven't heard of Harvard is bonded to the or not. I inspected Harvard will be very quiet look kind of reminds me of some of them are grappling. They probably took a sample that didn't quite represent all of the Chinese people.

They may well have found Tandon got nine to say what they want the site but make no mistake about it, the that the work that America needs to do to protect itself includes making clear that were not against the Chinese people that we are only trying to preserve and protect the things that matter to us and we use the ways they are heard someone connected to Harvard without a pole, talking with them and their will is ludicrous on its face. He tells you how up how much this touched a nerve inside the Chinese commerce party and therefore how true it must be that 90% of people are happy with the second ACLJ that Harvard should Ansell's answer for legitimizing the Chinese commerce party back to this issue with the present find statements on this and if the Army gets to see my comments coming into folks watching the broadcast. Listen to the broadcast house.

How serious do you think they should take this to every light like we sent you.

It's one thing making the statement meandering to a audience of donors that if he doesn't do it that addressed the nation, but at just what you know about the situation. I really potentially at that point of a nuclear Armageddon or could could they buy bad policies walk us into that point, absolute, or I think American weakness encourages Vladimir Putin to take activity doesn't think will respond to in a way that will close real cost way… I think a couple times during all about the perception of risk in the head of Vladimir Putin, the risk is concerned about his continued existence and continued leadership in his effort to make greater Russia so as America faltered or wandered around at fundraisers or make statements that had people walk back what the President said, we enhance the likelihood that Vladimir Putin will think I can just do this I can use a battlefield or tactical nuclear weapon away and I can gain the upper hand when my military has failed.

I think I think Jordan is a serious moment. There's no doubt about that, I think what it requires is continued American resolve continuing to push forward by the Ukrainians what they need. The more we demonstrate that we are not going to permit Vladimir Putin to push us around to bully us, the less likely that he will ultimately conclude that using a nuclear weapon will prove advantageous.

As always as Sec., and we appreciate his time because of a more perfect Avion I today to discuss this and I think people are visiting last night with a lot of finance folks and they were to tell you one thing about the stock market. They said you know, it's one thing to type in stock price, and if it is nuclear fallout, and who cares so again we always appreciate. I want people to go to ACLJ.org to see your new piece. Harvard should answer for legitimizing the Chinese commerce party. Our senior counsel, global affairs, Mike Pompeo, thanks for joining us today with that insight folks will continue taking phone calls on this at 1-800-684-3110 to come back to this tax break.

I would hit a couple of the topics were hit. The Hunter Biden topic is that that's it in the news that again. It's all based off reporting it hasn't been actual action as a timebomb of broadcast with you as I'm talking to right now of any kind of legal action or indictment, but it certainly as appears that there is at least what they're reporting is that there would be enough if they decide to a database of prosecutorial discretion five mellow that little bit of Vesey as well on life and I want to take this moment, we were talking about a life as well to recognize one of our senior councils at the ACLJR attorney Walter Weber a lot of my entire life and he has been dedicated to the fight for life and he's receiving a huge award from the Christian legal Society the William Bentley ball award for life and religious liberties receiving it today in California and so from almost ACLJ congratulations Walter I and I I'm just so glad he got to see in his career that just the the overturning of Roe versus Wade. But this new opportunity and I will tell you from seeing he is the best the best it in this field in this world when it comes to writing briefs. The US Supreme Court. You can take the words of Justice himself of of how great he is well-deserved reward and I hope he enjoys a big account for today and it certainly that's Walter Weber from our team at the ACLJ and let encourages metabolite for a minute there as well.

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ACLJ action is how quickly online. One on the Trump matter and in order to get into actually in Kentucky. So life issues hey Rick, thanks for taking my call and my quick question is my understanding.

Maybe I'm sorry but this goes to Judge Clarence Thomas, is that correct you like to schedule event right episode goes to him, he will likely refer to the entire court that he's handling right now is with the DOJ has to respond which is October 11 without a case of this magnitude, even though it is a procedural issue.

I don't think they would handle it on their own that is selling it again. There's lot discretion was there's a huge call right now by the left to say just subsidies to be refused if this is procedural is not substantive to the case. It's important procedure and loggers you we understand procedures very important but it is not sepsis. So Rick a good question there, but I think because it if the court decides to take this up. It involves a former President. It could be the full court when you go right to fragmented in Kentucky as well. I like Rick was calling and frankly I just filed amicus brief with the Kentucky Supreme Court. Let's tell people about the following day we are porting the attorney general spending to pro-life laws that went into effect immediately upon the court's decision of his laws have been passed in years. Monroe held sway and they each said that in the event that Roe was ever overruled. These laws are going to affect the one that splits the most sweeping is the humanlike protection act, which prohibits most abortions in the state of Kentucky. Although it does contain a fairly broad health and life. Mother exception basically left to the judgment of a of a medical doctor. Basically I was also a heartbeat law which kicked in the affected first detectable heartbeat around six weeks but obviously the humanlike protection act is even more restrictive than that. So that is in effect now and stop immediately after the dots happen. Planned Parenthood. ACLU of Kentucky in the usual suspects sued, they went into Circuit Court which is a trial court here in Kentucky and they got injunction against those laws obviously not based on Roby later Casey and Mark but on the basis of an alleged right of private Kentucky Constitution Atty. Gen. Kentucky has appealed, obtained a stay of that that injunction from the Circuit Court.

So as of today, most abortions are illegal in Kentucky and that's the case that were involved in the Supreme Court has scheduled hearing on November 15, which incidentally is a one week after their appears on the Kentucky ballot proposed amendment which would specify that there is no light to abortion contained in Kentucky custard Supreme Court obviously wants to wait and see what the voters have to say because that will largely determine the case. That is, at least in our that's basically what's going on here to take basically talking to Frank's on the amendments 10 is Apollo again on that are ACLJ action were involved in those amendments throughout the country because there's some that are saying you recognize a right to privacy, which means recognize a right to abortion in the consciousness of others that are in the negative.

This what is in the negative. It's it's 2.there is not a right to abortion. The Constitution has a really polling at audit. They were getting close election that were about a month out all the coordinates and it's a little bit concerning the quality of the concern for most of the money that has been flowing mostly on the pro-abortion side I don't have the numbers performing yesterday, and let's put it this way, where's the pro-abortion side funding figures for their advertising campaign is in the tens of millions, it looks like the pro-life side is still trying to get to 1 million. So the TV ads broke out and I've only seen the mother pro-abortion side there, very slick, very smooth, are also very misleading as effective, but I suspect will be effective for a lot of people it's departed at this fracas. It was so used to dealing with us in the federal level and may release all of the day.

How about that bye-bye ultimately federal court circuit courts.

Maybe this report now that things have opened up because of Dobbs were instant state courts all across the country.

What is the makeup like of the Kentucky Supreme Court that day. They granted a stay of the lower court injunction and afford remote seven-member court.

That's a good sign. It's not it's not determinative of what to say on the merits of the case is developing don't have to go to a considerable degree by what the people say on November 8.

But here's a factor in Kentucky that we try to alert them to basically what we sentence recorded. You don't want to go down the road of the Supreme Court in the federal courts after the weight and become a super legislature, the nation's ex officio medical board getting involved in every decision involving the medical procedure of abortion, you just don't want to do that. And that leads to a sort of institutionally debilitating factor which Justice O'Connor first diagnosed with acting in the 70s that gives the court adamantly and not what should be doing either decision that should be left people any Kentucky think about that. This is an elected Supreme Court if the Supreme Court of Kentucky injected felt that this is a limit to find a constitutional right of privacy recovers abortion the Kentucky Supreme Court election to become the equivalent of what we've seen in Presidential campaign and U.S. Senate campaign for the last 50 years about destroying the independence and impartiality of the judiciary completely destroyed and become nothing but a political body as we appreciate the updates. We appreciate the work you were doing. Also just ate is unique and so I guess remaining ACLJ senior counsel and I leading the charge. Your protecting life in Kentucky really all over the country. Frank's part at that significant life advocacy that we do here at the ACLJ and it is it is the indifferent guy that's I would take as well as to get it all in Kentucky but their strategies going on in every state. Some are very different and separate Schaefer joyous because this was what we talked about the post on Sarah. It's not that you are outside federal court so you're the state Supreme Court's the state Supreme Court. Sometimes there artist elected sometimes a nonpartisan election sometimes are selected by this I can.

You don't vote as to whether or not you want to keep justice on the court or whether you would like some new and most people depending on the state depend on how it's made up for like they have either not much to say.

Or it's a lot of incumbency depending on how it's made up. This is where these cases are getting it up in less the voters take it really outside of court so that they finally seal amendments to the Constitution or clearing up what the Constitution does not allow some Kentucky of the submitted be put forward. Since we are not going to recognize a right to abortion center Constitution in other states. It's the opposite.

She had to be very educated here tomorrow states got those ballot initiatives very educated and not to not be misled by confusing language. If you're confused audit you should reach out to us. We literally this part of the reason why we exist at the ACLJ wave lot information audit@aclj.org/abortion. We had a whole map of of what was going on around the country when it comes to abortion rights. So ACLJ.org/abortion. You can see your state.

For instance, in South Dakota there will be a preview of a potential commitment that a vivid wooden try to write to abortion so we will make sure that was cleared for people they see this for the first time no see it in the November elections ended.

They agree to before you gather ventures to actually get it on the ballot next so so these are to be a couple more years from now we have more time to educate people, but is registered for freight. Others were passed in case the Supreme Court did what they did everything.ACLJ.org support our work. Second ACLJ's been on the frontline protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena several injustices on your side you're already a member. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ.org or you can learn more about our life-changing become a member today ACLJ keeping you informed and now is Logan Sekulow ratio luxury segments coming up for you to listen today will instruct me in the studio right now. Later in the sure you can hear from some experts like Mike Pompeo or terrible.

He's going to roll to talk about the work we're doing in terms of life and what this all means in a post-Roe world will be what is stated that's right so we are fortunate here. The ACLJ because of the support of the ACLJ members and community that we have experts like Mike Pompeo, they can come on and really break down things like when you hear the present United States say things about nuclear Armageddon area. What that means yes you had to hear from him I Pompeo as well said due to your support of the ACLJ which I encourage you I always encourage is notably good ACLJ.org to donate.

We appreciate that. I really would appreciate I'm safe you can least do not go there and read the incredible content go there and watch and cuddle time to put together by a team. People like my Pompeo root canal are part of our team. These are just random contributors that you're seeing on TV talking heads even as a Parma team who were involved in the issues that we deal with each and every day and that you have to deal with, so good ACLJ.org to read up on some of the stuff they put out over the last few years there's years of content available there right now. People use that website leaves again to donate support these incentives to watch our daily broadcast. You should really go deep dive into the content. If there is really great. But today you're going to hear him secretary Pompeo specifically on things like what you said when the present United States makes a sort of grandiose thoughts and threats of earth threatens with nuclear war potentially coming out to our soil into your coming from Russia and what this all means and that's why, unlike a lot of organizations we hire the best in the past we find people who really know what you're talking about C-terminal former Secretary of State who is part of our team can really comment out when stuff like this happens totally give you not only maybe some comfort with some understanding globally what all means. Also, we are going to be getting into some of the life issues that they shall J is working on. We always said that once the Supreme Court decides, and if they do decide to get rid of Roe versus Wade decision that the fight doesn't end there.

The fight begins there because then the states are going to have all different sorts of laws off different sorts of restrictions and a lot more work a lot more aggressive work that has to be done. I can set a state-by-state away and look even if your state had a trigger law or something that when the place that doesn't mean that's permanently in place for a lot of the states. We know this is to be what happens. The ballot boxes activate a lot of people. Whether you're pro-life or pro-choice activate a lot of people to go vote to get involved in this midterm election and maybe more so they maybe want to pitch that more than it is but it's true. It is making a big impact will breakdown that is well here about how were doing this across the country because we are again going state-by-state with the ACLJ to make sure that these laws are protected or new laws are being created and we started doing that even before you Dobbs decision came out but what you're going to hear today is some of the direct action that's going on right now in states like Oklahoma and states like Kentucky, where the left and Planned Parenthood in the big abortion lobby is pushing hard to try to get rid of some of these restrictions on abortion and there almost right to relitigate Roe versus Wade. They're trying to have a bunch of many Roe versus Wade's across the country much like an Roe versus Wade where they found the right to abortion in the United States Constitution trying to do that same game plan again by state in 50 different NAFTA tuitions so it's a it's a real fight.

Our attorneys are on it but you hear about some of that today as well when their big help the President by does what he says you do it somehow figures out a way to codify Roe into law or a talk about that and so much more on this broadcast again will encourage you to watch as a social media like share do all those things.

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There's a Bible verse and obviously put there to cause this issue. Mark 1231 love your neighbor as yourself.

There is no greater commandment in these and then underneath that you will see paid for by Newsom for California governor in 2022.obviously you aren't seeing ads about going to get abortion California California so right now where they running Indiana, Mississippi, Ohio, Texas, South Carolina, South Dakota, and Oklahoma. My question is this. Those states is really looking up at that and said no that that Bible verse that encourages me to want to go get the abortion will that's it.

To me it's almost like a slap in the face of people take the place it seriously and also maybe you think twice before abortion would revive her slick that I would think so. So probably backfires, but the fact that they used it any spinning like this that's was on. We both mean an interesting South Dakota. We just got word that October 1840 the argument before the eighth circuit Court of Appeals, a pro-life piece of legislation that after Dobbs's should be item surprising in having argument on informed consent so we got that going on October 18 but you have to look at this and saying this is the depths to which the pro-abortion industry and I'm putting Gavin Newsom in that industry. The depths to which they will go to get there way to get their message out, but then the Bible verse to does add it level of insult. It just does and I think that's that was probably the intention all along. Now California once again he's governor Newsom is not content to just be governor of California.

He's going to take his liberal beliefs and spread them into more conservative states that have decided on their own that they are to protect life and protect the life of the unborn baby and in a government. Gov. Newsom can't stand, that's of his pennies billboard top and those states and again like he said, using a Bible verse.

It's offensive to me as someone who reads the Bible and believes in it and I hope that it does backfire, and it's offensive to people. This is also coming out of the governor of California. California is the state of New York that is gone.

The Ferguson allowing abortion rights, including the perinatal issue that we discussed so many times, but there also the state that is trying to regulate out of existence regarding taking to the Supreme Court.

Man stays in one once, but the person that was trying to regulate these crisis pregnancy centers pregnancy resource centers are now called the guy that was doing that is now the Sec. of HHS. So this is the most hostile state in the Chi would say New York and California be our language one, but California is certainly even more in-your-face than New York right now with his ad and that Bible verse nine and are trying to spread their pro-abortion stance across the board across the United States. If you live in an estate now that doesn't that believes that she should protect them. The life of the child in the Lamb. Gov. Newsom has now targeted you and is coming after you and the perinatal law that we have thought the whole time in California on that lot right now it has passed and it's sitting on his desk, waiting to be signed and if he doesn't sign it before the end of the month, it will become law and California will not be able to investigate deaths of children after airborne it is that is that is so absurd but this tells you the level to which they will go to get the right were taking your calls at 1-800-684-3110. We want to know your reaction to this ad in this move by California's governor, 1-800-684-3110 coming up in the next segment is door and said they went on election integrity. Let's go take the next cauldron. Yes, it reader reads comment on YouTube.

Should she should he should be very careful in mocking God, and I think anytime you're invoking Scripture you better be sure Scripture is on your side and you don't that some thought because we get willy-nilly with it which is what this analysis is that yes this is just politics except that assailants throw this on the ad to get more attention right.

He wants us to be talking about right now so that's part of his. His goal doesn't like the way were talking about it but he also leaves the leftist document is provocative.

I think when you start playing with the Bible verses to be provocative better make sure you're right because I get your you're messing with a much higher power than governors or Presidents or leaders of the world and to me it also is trying to read again like take back the abortion debate to the Protestant church which it used to kind of sit it is a place where we does pro-abortion. It was that was actually not in conflict in Scripture limits at think that's exactly to hunting Nancy's calls come from California were taken. Others at 100-684-3110 Nancy go ahead and on the California on 25 Mary and Gail campaign." You can kill somebody into believing like they have to get a life. In order to fulfill Scripture and Karen had seen everything falling away from the churchgoing welcome CRT BLM at Franklin Graham.

He wanted everybody to get back people lined up Cory, do you think they could get nowhere. I think the Scripture which is Jesus is the greatest commandment love your neighbor as yourself. There is no greater commandment in these is that those were the words of Jesus and this guy is governor is using it. You want to say which one said I believe is using this at his own peril. I think I'm not saying the wrath of this is rather that I'm just saying it is a nasty heightening of this issue. Pictures that will go at any length to put forward their view on this train and and right in the face of the Bible and the word of God and like you said these were Jesus's words and the fact that he's putting this thing on a billboard saying, tell your baby which is completely against anything a Christian believes and the Lord believes life is precious and should be protected and it's just it is flying in the face and there is a higher power here and he does need to be concerned about how Jordan knew this was no accident. Let's think about a put that they thought about this before they put it on that yapping. This is a political ad so it's paid for. This was a paid for by the state of California isdislike involved in it say to that of the right, but here what he did was he took his political campaign account what she's been doing uniquely around the country and why is he doing that to build a national profile. He what Gavin is supposed to be a name was a pretty big name income for California but he wants to be a name, and considered in the top of the already jumps to like the top of the field. He's like a DeSantis in the sense that he he is kind of a major state governor who, on the left like to say to those of the right makes a lot of news right were pretty radical policies for the left.

So throw the Bible verse in their I think again it's it's tried to reshape the issue. I think it's very dangerous. I think it would backfire. Most of the states were his writing this like in Indiana and Mississippi because I don't think he was reading the Bible to say go out and intentionally taken a life now but you know it's interesting because this is a legal point and that this coming information on YouTube and the axon can use campaign funds to do this, the campaign funds are pretty broad where they can be used when you have to ask yourself what is the registry with the states. The course why what it does this have to do and you do a lot of that law what does this have to do with this campaign other than a building is national profile that's right for his next campaign as long as it is not violating any California law by spitting outside of the state, which I'm sure is that teams lawyers to make sure that's case and register the right way in the states you can utilize the funds this way them. Most political candidates would say why are my daughters really okay with that. His obviously are ready for him to take the next step. They want him to be considered to be the front runner to be the Presidential nominee if Joe Biden does not rot. I think people saw that CBS interview they think is pretty good chance the sky does not make it to a second term) from ascetics. Now we allow call from California immediately hundred 6431 that. Let's take a Genie online to go ahead and perspective callers that want to encourage only color and peril is on listening anywhere in California after not stepping up to the pulpit and calling without urge you to think the pastor of the church and in the church that the colonists got out and I just think that meant the church remaining silent on their part to monitor Nazi Germany. I don't think the church is the receipt of the said Jeannie I appreciate your enthusiasm but I don't think the church is actually being silent. I us… We just saw the overturning of the universe is to let let's put this in perspective.

Okay, so of course the running Bible verses to try to justify their evil position because he just had a gigantic defeat at the Supreme Court of the United States the case, they feared the most. They just lost basically 6 to 35 to overturn Roe six saying the law. Mississippi was constitutional. So of course I can add Bible verses to their assigned to try to promote this because that's what they're doing there doubling down on it, but I don't think it's fair to say that the country's asleep in the church is the back of the matter is it was it was the pulpit's talking about abortion for 45 years that This movement going. It was the spiritual leaders of our country that were on the front lines defending like I know that because I depended for 40 years so I know who's out there doing this morning I used to go to those prayer meetings with those pastors, 5 o'clock in the morning in Atlanta Georgia so I know how they were doing it so I appreciate the enthusiasm I want to give credit where credit goes to God.

These passes were motivated and some were members of the church. I think that's why the subgrade is filed amicus brief Oklahoma Supreme Court in defense of the state's abortion ban. The brief was filed on behalf of ACLJ more than 127,000 ACLJ supporters, including 2200, Oklahoma, and 41 members of the Oklahoma City and house, including sponsors of the bill that we are defending one of those sponsored lead sponsors who was also assisted us in bringing those legislators to our brief is joining us now on the phone.

The majority floor leader of the Oklahoma State house John Echols, John. We appreciate you.

Be with us yet makes a leader and for being with us today. I want to start the conversation and appreciate your efforts on this note. Oklahoma has a history of saying that abortion is not in good, states constitution but that's the new attack of the pro-abortion groups to have it as part of the Constitution. How do you see it playing out in and what are your constituent site. Thinking about this will proudly automate continuing life and you said you were instrumental in defending the build of the oval psychopathic honor to be the primary health sponsor of the bill that was elected people representing said we are going to respect life at all eight of all ages, including that of the low. I think the next step in the fight after we win the legal challenge. With your help showing.

This is an issue which decided the state you can't come find out the Obama constitution, but that will be the next bite will be coming and showing just as Rome was wrongly decided.

There is no right to death under the Constitution same right doesn't exist under the Oklahoma Constitution uses interesting legal Echols because in cc house with us as senior attorney for the ACLJ we have filed this brief is being filed how we have just filed in Kentucky and are about to fall into other states that this is a pattern is developing.

We said this would go to the states is gone to the state land about nine states that we will leave filed in tela filing Timor this week and then we have I think five more that we will file said there's nine that we are watching and engaging on to so let me ask you this liter. Echols and in looking at your your support within that have your two bodies of of your legislature there in Oklahoma. How strong is this pro-abortion law because in Washington they are still look at me. The truth of the matter is, Planned Parenthood is huge and there still a huge force when you sing on the state level very very well on the state level like Oklahoma pro-abortion lobby had kind of money used to attack legislators like myself and several others who were in metro areas that have a strong right to life stance. But here's what we're finding what we found is when you give the issue to the states, which is where it should have been from the very beginning when a federal system on purpose states are independent underneath the main sovereign of the United States, but this is an issue that always should've been left to the state for the state of Oklahoma are standing up to the big money and they're saying this is not what we want we want life protected. We want a culture of life in all areas but no mistake what you talk about Kansas.

What happened to that election for what you're talking right here in Oklahoma there is money in the abortion lobby and it is being spent everywhere. We talked about this we see for ACLJ action and what we've been trying to get out to the education process is there is a opportunity here post row wheat we knew if the state came in preparing for it and we were prepared for the possibility of it is that we have to do a massive education campaign that yes, there's the devotes is the electoral side of it, the politics out of it, but part of that is educating voters whether this is ballot amendments that were saying that it really brought in a written up in a way they're confusing. We went out to South Dakota where we we were able to help clarify that if it does make it to the ballot. The first line is this will enshrine a right to abortion in our state constitution, but it takes educating folks.

I know I talked to people about that to just talking to your constituents talking to voters about what's true and what's propaganda about what the ACLJ you guys are doing with that way I talk to your organization several times you help me with messaging you help me with ideas you're involved in the state level. I know it Oklahoma majority floor leader.

We had multiple conversations years speaking for and being able to go to our constituents and say here's what is really happening out there. Here's the real facts and you guys been on the forefront of that and I'm a Christian. Even here, not just on a national level, but even here in Oklahoma because and we appreciate your leadership on this job because the fact of the matter is this is now returned to the states and educational Georgia said is a big part of this litigation is a big part of the deceased was talking on the brace week.

This is a real challenge for the United States and to see where we come down state-by-state on this and it's interesting that in Oklahoma when once again they're trying to say. Working to create a right by litigation not go through the constitutional in the process of trying to amend the Constitution through litigation.

What's interesting to note is that your Oklahoma Supreme Court has specifically said I never found an abortion right in the Constitution. Yet that's right, Planned Parenthood will fight and fight and fight. Even when you have at their highest court saying there is no right and sensitively so leader Echols how was your Supreme Court.

There in Oklahoma recorded a wall to the left of the majority of I will say I believe her to get this right okay so I believe with the help of the ACLJ organization.

I believe they are going to get this right and it's also important out PC that we have an initiative petition process in Oklahoma. If symptoms really thought this was popular and they can win it on the ballot. They could circulate it and get a constitutional change are ballot they don't know it's unpopular. They know it's not in the spring, for they know it's not what the citizens want. And that's why they're trying to do judicially what they could never do for the political process across the country as their strategy changes state to state the substance states he looked at the CK we can with the ballot box will leave the courts out when they have to rely on the courts to create the right that's there like last step we know that that's when there in the most trouble we have to go to court to say hey Rita right into a Constitution that sat there, but we also like you said you can't just take that as well. Courts is given through that we take very seriously as we do with ACLJ so I put together this brief with with your colleagues with our supporters and with Oklahomans yeah John. We appreciate your leadership as the floor leader majority floor leader in Oklahoma and will have you back on his this case develops.

Thanks for your hard work on this unit. I just need to say right the acid here folks in Maine were engaging this literally state-by-state and your support in the ACLJ is critical. We got an email going out to get our email alerts or text messages sign-up form it@thewebsiteoraclj.org or or by any mirthless media platforms and will talk about the fact that we got.

Basically, they believe that with just what we said they got that the Planned Parenthood and those groups have unleashed a blitzkrieg of lawsuits out trying to enshrine a right to abortion.

The Constitution and then at the same time they are trying to damage the crisis pregnancy centers ability to even operate) on after right to fall that wealth probably fivefold actually because they got through ballot initiatives. They go through litigation and then of course they attacked their groups there on the front lines. The crisis pregnancy centers they're actually helping to save babies on some Planned Parenthood hasn't given up just because the Dobbs decision. They just reengaged and and they're doing more, actually.

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