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BREAKING: Idaho Judge Sides with Pro-Abortion Left

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August 25, 2022 1:10 pm

BREAKING: Idaho Judge Sides with Pro-Abortion Left

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August 25, 2022 1:10 pm

Following the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe, we knew we'd see a flurry of legal challenges and judicial rulings in the following months. We just hit the 60 day mark since the monumental decision. Jay, Logan, and the Sekulow team break down the current state of these legal challenges, including the recent ruling in Idaho. This and more today on Sekulow.

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Breaking news George Idaho sides with the pre-abortion left as we expected was going to happen were to start seeing us of judicial rulings and what I call the post-Dobbs world, which is where we live right now. This is after the Supreme Court decision saying that Roe versus Wade was no longer the law of the land there would start to be decisions being taken in state courts of groups like Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion groups form to take the setting down obviously they've gone into courts and numerous locales now start actually with the Texas case because there was a initial order in Texas that was against Texas law going until force cc that's now changed yes so Texas actually in Texas. Texas was actually the one that brought suit against that HHS and they were saying that HHS can't mandate a Texas hospital to perform an abortion through the emergency medical treatment and labor act that is in direct contradiction with their Texas law and the judge in Texas agreed with Texas that the HHS had gone separate their authority by trying to say that the emergency medical treatment and labor act tromped. I Texas, a state law that outlawed abortion but their trigger lock load and what were seeing now this woman wanted from the Idaho decision and excitement broadcast, but I wanted paint a picture for people in this this issue is becoming both its was a legal issue but is also a political issue this early minutes I'd say it's more a political issue at this point is why think is important you take a victory lap you happy about the fact the road was overdetermined. I look to the states look to the voters and when there are more extreme measures put in place, you've a lot of people find themselves in the middle of this and maybe to get activated may be connected to vote the way they were going to vote three months ago. So that really does change everything.

You have to be aware of always said this, we have these conversations understand where people are at Morley for sure as to where they wanted to be legal, but sometimes you have to baby step this, make sure that people feel comfortable with where were going to gets too extreme for the. Not a situation for us maybe too extreme for the couple percent.

Most of the state that do the people see Idaho or Lacey Texas Lego why does this matter to me because my state is either super blue or super redwoods were a lot of people live for. They live in states where if you have a completely illegal or whether it's going today are very close to illegal or where to go California New York with Camille please in some states, you have conservative populace and conservative state government but the Supreme Court because the way they were appointed. Of those states could be very liberal, wishing that the number states ready right and we talked about that several times that again.

Don't just assume that you live in a red state you have, you know at conservative legislature.

You might not have a conservative at judiciary and that's where a lot of these cases are going and that he's making these decisions at this time so you know it's not just a given that if you live in a conservative state, you can have conservative opinion of the Jordan member on the phone with the Atty. Gen. for South Dakota.

Just the other day going over some proposals they have coming because Logan, like you said in that state.

Planned Parenthood and others are pushing for constitutional limit to have abortion recognized in their state constitutions to wherever to do the state-by-state but I will tell you Idaho South Dakota course Texas.

We are fully engage the resources of ACLJ are being deployed to fight these on the state-by-state level and it is important that the Dobbs club will bring versus Wade is now removed from this process with your kids should be. Some of this celebrated the five were able to get that done. But now you do turn to what could happen. What can happen in the next few months it's can be very extreme time such other meetings.

I think that things were sweating. One way tightening up there to tighten up the good kind of honesty I told you that the the you the rhetoric coming out of the liberal media originally was a Leader Pl., July You can give your present now just a matter of weeks. Things have shifted to look at Cooley is look at all the campaign promises that will talk a better set of campaign promises whether top there start that sort of spin heading into the midterms that you have some divisive issues that could motivate a moderate group of voters.

We pretty interesting see how it all plays out this week. It like a draft of all, you have to make sure you stay tuned, what's going on these States you are there not important I said before start of the shows were the people and watch the show on socially because I got out I don't know if it matters to me.

It doesn't technical delete hundred 684-3110 and 2000 684-3110.

These two segments to talk about the life issue because this is obviously since the Dobbs decision, the states have been very active across the country affected ACLJ.org we have a map up that goes state-by-state so you can look at the map and goes state-by-state to see where the laws are in your state. Now, Texas was a success. The laws going into effect as planned.

However, in Idaho there was a challenge to the wall. I CC been following that with that is how I was a little bit different.

Just like you said in Texas. Texas stated that Health and Human Services departments are basically see the Biden administration from implementing the emergency medical treatment and labor act that would tromped than their state law.

So Texas got a win and how the Department of Justice actually sued Idaho saying that the again emergency medical treatment and labor act tromped their trigger law and the judge eight a in other everyone saying that this is a big win for the Biden administration. But when you really look at the opinion that Judge says that in Idaho can't prosecute at Dr. for forming and this is emergency treatment only emergency treatment only they can't prosecute a doctor if they perform abortion as an emergency treatment, but there still requirement that it's necessary to avoid placing the health of the pregnant patient in serious jeopardy or to bodily impairment.

Serious impairment of bodily functions or Sears to function dysfunction of any bodily organ. There is no concrete harm. Health harm risk to the woman and there's still something that needs to be proven there. You can't just come and do not get an abortion, you're still not have to prove that basically it was to save the life of the mother, which is what the Idaho law said and at the first player so this was a very narrow defeat. If you want to call that probably goes on to the Court of Appeals.

Likely, but I think that we have to establish her Logan is that we are now seeing that the abortion issue is going state to state. And it's good to be in states are conservative to so Texas very conservative state would happen if I down Texas was Wyoming, Idaho was a very conservative state, but would have in a fight it out in and I don't get activated in your midterm elections. I think that's important something that a lot of people do not love people don't pay attention to what's going on. They don't care about the Presidential they will vote occasionally here and there, but they get distracted. Don't vote. And now we have situations like this that occur when you have a state real estate like Texas, 49% blue. Maybe Danielle is now talking about huge margins in these places states like Tennessee, which are those red states in the country. 45% of the people who vote vote for a Democrat vote for a pro-choice soap if 5% stay home don't get out there don't actually do their due diligence because you look at the President right now you know I don't care about how I'll deal this in two more years of how bad things of God.

This could become a cyclical issue over the next generation looking at this issue depends on where you're coming from. I think that there are a lot of people who it in my circle of friends of see that celebrated the way it was near the overturning of diverse weights of the meat they would see in our lifetime and the a lot of people who feed into the hysteria comes out of the social media, public opinion, which is concerning for those on the left. Like you said it activated that I did activate the minute we do this, it also activated them when Joe Biden is presented as a pretty much the one of me.

I'd say the words present our lifetime to all of a sudden the media has decided really that's what it is they decided to rally behind him because they saw them, or slipping in a have to be a get people to go out and actually still get activated you with the midterms because of Joe Biden's endorsement doesn't do anything for you, then that's kind of a big problem midterms.

So now the site you're touting MC every day. Here's where Pres. Biden has had some big successes, more so than we have seen the last couple months you're on the heels of Afghanistan one year after Afghanistan, exactly.

It's easy EOM history is very short in people's minds. So that's really about what's happening right now is gas prices spike to six dollars.

Now they're down to four dollars you laid in. People will look down was not really down but you still way up, but you can spend it as a window we start spinning things as a win. The tides are turning in your favor. We start looking at an issue like abortion, which is still probably one of the more controversial subjects and one of the most highly debated subjects. There is not a universal understanding or agreement on any level because it shifted where actually I think conservatives have stayed pretty consistent distance of here is why we believe that it's wrong.

The Democrat agenda. The liberal agenda has shifted over the last 30 years to well it's a blob of tissue to.

It's not a baby to its you doesn't matter if that's not the point. Women's rights don't dose those toads have changed because they can't justify their own thing. But you, when you have a social media presence like you do. It's easy to kind of manipulate your audience that's happening right now is kind of mass manipulation and contrition because the District Court judge here said that you interpret the bill which was a criminal enforcement against the doctor who performed the abortion lesson involve the real health of the mother. He looked at that and said it's not about the bygone constitutional right to abortion is with the judge said that this court is not grappling with the larger, more profound question rather, the court is called upon to address a fort far more modest issue whether Idaho's criminal abortion statue conflicts with a small but important corner of federal legislation and he says it does now the federal legislation you're talking about CC is the emergency claim that the people but there what's very interesting on the tightest instinct to gather because white level is just talking about was what we call the abortion discussion Valley spend things so this is the emergency medical treatment and labor act, and this is what the judge is saying this is going to trump what's very interesting as he quotes the language of the emergency medical treatment and labor act almost exactly here's what the language office actually says that I'm a medical emergency is one that places the health of the individual and get this part or with respect to a pregnant woman, the health of the woman or her unborn child in serious jeopardy, said the actual language of the emergency medical treatment and labor act actually protects the unborn child's life from being placed in serious jeopardy. He clearly in his opinion, leaves that one says. At that point he just talks about the health of the woman in serious jeopardy not have her unborn child. So even an argument can be made even under the emergency medical treatment and labor act that protects the life of the unborn child. So he is really not doing anything by enforcing this emergency medical treatment and labor act because a doctor should try to protect the health of an unborn child from serious jeopardy under this here's where the legal issues are to be a complicated Logan and Susie and that is, states are going different ways or some states are calling for total ban on abortion, no life of the mother. No rape or incest exceptions. I think those are not in a boat well in the body politic you lose, you lose those sailors even legally. But even if you don't agree with. You lose politically, you're gonna lose politically on most states if it's into the life of the mother. I think that is where people kind of have drawn the line. Most estates have not pushed from the Carolinas. Looking at that right now and I think it's a must. I've said it. I think it's I think we have a big win coming from Dobbs with the club of Roe versus Wade removed the globe and send the mythology that in our lifetime we did a great decision. Then we have to go to the next level which is how do we know when estates because search litigation in conceivable in all 50 states. I think it will be and this is where we got our lawyers being deployed, but also it's important to get legislation put them on some of these requiring constitutional amendments that the people actually understand because here's the problem.

Constitutional amendments generally when you see a state constitutional amendment. Your answer is no, I don't want to amend the Constitution. Right that sometimes it may be amending it to add abortion so you know is good.

Yes, sometimes they may be adding it to protect unborn life. So you would want to vote yes, but they're so convoluted right the populace can understand what they're voting on. That's right, and were breaking it down for you state by snacks and so what has happened since Dobbs is the work that the ACLJ does in protecting life has quadrupled.

I mean, maybe more than quadrupled because we have to look at we filed in this Idaho case and will file when they appeal again is that we are watching every single court case that is dealing with the issue of life or watching everything like you said ballot initiative were talking to legislatures, so we are literally on the front lines and dealing just immense work in this issue, protecting life. It comes down to it the end of the day we value human life and we want to protect the life of the unborn child and now were having to be really strategic on how we engage in. This is where you come in.

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The sexual happened in Ocala, Florida Abby Sutherlands alert is been primarily possible for this case and let's start with I think giving people the factual background of what actually led to these prayer vigils being called in the first place before we get into the controversy. Let's talk about what actually happened and the facts are that there is a kind spray resulting in the harm to several children occurred in a small community in Ocala. They day, the police believes they need to. He was responsible for the crime and that no one wanted to come forward and said the places they gave many times, began to engage community leaders and to work with them and to say how hot when we get on S.

How do we increase cooperation among citizens that leaders of the community decided to hold a prayer vigil to bring the community together to rally the community and and in response that the chief of police encourage people to attend a private wellness backup so you got this we got this crime spree going through the small community in Florida with Ocala.

Logan is uniforms were having so smaller communities pretty. It's a pretty significant community and we had the Central Florida area is Orlando. Within an hour. Rough looks outside of Orlando. They had a crime spree going on so there was but prominent community who decided that they prayer vigil would be a good idea.

It was a community was at the police or was everybody community leaders. Okay, what's a community leader meeting in Ocala non-city employee Ocala community leader.

Many of them are religious leaders, family members and NAACP okay and they were all sitting in a table meeting with the chief of police and and determined that this is what day is a community wanted today you have representatives from the Nashville NAACP you have representatives from other rest other media leaders within the area and the chief of police who is dealing with this crisis and try to get control over the situation and has the nerve to call for a prayer vigil with these other community leaders. The hotter the prayer vigil, then turn into an event and will and what happened at the event was the community leaders to cop a parent tell the chief a place just sat.

Whatever you decide, we will support your efforts and I went and stayed last community leaders plant the prayer vigil. They gather for the prayer vigil volunteer chaplain with the Police Department attended the vigil they would in any event and helped lead and citizens in prayer at the vigil soyou look at these cases and you say okay Congress has a chaplain for the house and the Senate.

Other departments have chaplain's fire departments have chaplains, police all departments have chaplains that this idea that prayer is divorced from America's public life is a myth that I think is been significantly shattered, especially with the decision in the Coach Kennedy case of prayer is not to be treated as if it's no toxic material dangerous to be around so that part. I think the idea that prayer is should be banned, so to speak. You have a secular vision, whatever that means, but prayer itself is still under attack by these right and will talk about the minute I like you mentioned in the Kennedy case and they are saying a prayer is historical to our society and our nation, and it is it's foundational I you see for that national Day of prayer you see Presidents calling for prayer. Prayer is a foundational part of approximate times right where our nation. So what we get to and I don't know if you want to jump in and this is you, you get somebody here is an offended observer that with me. I got these these prayer vigils hoping to let's talk about being instead.

Okay some of the vigils of what happened and they held that it vigil having important.

Another important fact to mention is that that kind spray to place in a faith-based community and that made sense that the response by the faith-based community was apparent until we say took place in the faith-based community. What you mean but it was like it was a small community with an Ocala okay and said the individuals in charge of leading the vigil were located and led church as in the past Monica and said the pastors gathered together along with private citizens plan the vigil. They help the vigil on and and a few of the plaintiffs who have since filed a lawsuit challenging the vigil and that the city's alleged involvement in the vigil. Essentially they objected to the fact that the city encourage citizens to participate and and ugly support that brought the cat challenge the American humanist Association has a law firm and and the plaintiffs are related to the members of these groups on EF and SMR are not okay. So they said their complaint that was. We knew this was happening so were to observe it so we could be offended. Basically in the test and any and discovery indicates that they intended to protest. I didn't intend to participate.

They specifically say we expected there would be a violation we attended today that we can witness the dilation and essentially be offended at SCC so in the 11th circuit Court of Appeals has a very bizarre rule on what's called legal standing.

That is who can bring a lawsuit is normally an offended observer. The answer of defendant observers don't go look the other way if you don't like the monument this idea that you would ban the entire event because a person doesn't like the event is called offender observer status and that should be it. Really, most circuits it's gone.

The 11th circuit has this bizarre rule that covers Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and it's it basically says if there's a metaphysic I'm not kidding you folks.

If there is a metaphysical harm that could be enough. Explain that one place while it's hard to explain. Quite frankly, because the spring questing, Claire, Derek, there is no offended observer standing in the Alanis Stark at just not after that decision came down said will we recognize something different it's psychological or metaphysical harm. However, even the judges in the 11th circuit have had difficulty explaining how is that different from offended observer standing if there is no other injury whatsoever in the plaintiff cannot articulate any injury other than offense or metaphysical harm and write my circuit say no standing, you can't. You can't even file a lawsuit to challenge the case so loading we are taking the case now on this issue of offended observer standing to the Supreme Court of the United States because we think this is a vehicle upon which these kind cases would stop just offended, so I want to then be able to sue. That's not the way it's supposed to work. You will that's how culture is right now it's very everyone is so easily offended, and it offended at everything that this is what get spun out of control so you actually can have a legal standing to say that's not a thing that would be fantastic and Lotta people get riled up about that you get people who own this is broadcast again, but I like to the laws earlier today. I think we had always break down why the support of the greater scheme because you look at about 11 Ocala, Ocala zero Gainesville and its 60,000 people. What is that matter to me because I'm one of the millions we will listen is broadcast that doesn't live in Ocala. One of the millions of people live lives broadcast that don't live in Idaho but these have much bigger precedent that could be made on old much larger scale. That's why we take these cases, not just honestly help people who are usually in these communities. And then in the singular, but how can affect the whole country and that's why were taking it to the Supreme Court of the states folks and word and try to file this petition by the middle of September, and the reason I'm doing that were doing that is because we fall by the minute. Middle September and they were to grant review will be determined. Determined this term so were to make a full effort to protect this right to prayer is right for this patient for this community will affect a lot of other cases around and that's again when you commit clothing to let you know how this matching challenge works that state actions were taken on the life issue go to the Supreme Court event states on the prayer issue you can support the AC okay this a great time to do with her matching challenge is very Cisco ACLJ.org matching challenge donate what that means saving donations are made during this month are immediately matched by another donor who is ready to go.

So you $10 becomes 20 effectively for the work of the ACLJason do that now. Second half hour broadcast, if you look at station by this on social media and the American Center for Law and issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the AC okay matching challenge constitutional and religious freedoms you forgive today online keeping you informed and now is secular, as it were technicals later 64 3110 Texas, the court upholds the pro-life at the Appellate Ct., Idaho District Court judge says this particular portion of the law involving emergency abortions. He's declaring the wall in Idaho unconstitutional, and in other states. We got fights going on at the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals on this so were litigating around the country just also heard that we got a case when the Supreme Court had states on prayer at a prayer vigil for say it was under distress because of a crime spree and American humanist Association lawyers and plaintiffs filed a lawsuit were taken back to the Supreme Court of the United States, but we also have positive and coming in on this issue will take your calls at 800-684-3110 Rick would also be joining us in the next segment is what was going to Kim's call it Kim Scully Pennsylvania earlier take him to call you all whole thing and play because all the time. We have been prompting kidding people who are in a car involuntary manslaughter. What you on an ongoing challenges now they're trying to correct any well, here's what you're right, there was laws in most states that if there was a vehicular homicide. Let's say that in the woman was pregnant that it would be to charges. The mother and the unborn child they had some states had with the cold quickening which was determine what stage of the pregnancy. It had to be at. But regardless now the framework of Roe versus Wade is gone so you so there is no federal constitutional right to abortion so it now returns to states really said it broke it's over, turn it simply returns it to the states.

Well, simply means in this particular case a lot of activity in these very states because states are nuanced and difference in their loss right and Kim's exactly correct when she saying you know. Yes, we know that if if you took the life of the pregnant woman you are charged with two deaths.

But then we have the abortion distortion span. Yes, it's a baby in every situation and alas, it's an abortion and then suddenly it's not a baby. What's amazing to you is we see this abortion distortion even in this judges opinion from Idaho when he saying he's basically quoting the emergency medical treatment and labor act of when you know you have to provide this emergency medical treatment on patients, but in the definitions of the act of the act itself. It says placing the health of the individual and with respect to pregnant women.

The health of the woman or her unborn child in serious jeopardy.

Even the emergency medical treatment and labor act itself acknowledges the life of the unborn child and that the doctor must take action to prevent serious jeopardy to that unborn child's life, but the judge mysteriously leaves that part out of his opinion so that now will be appealed. So when I'm telling you folks, is where your having to strategize on the 50 state basis and in logos and walk you through this. If you would ACLJ.org. We got an interactive map that shows law in all 50 states and it is constantly updated to show what, where, where things are.

Because of changing daily. That's really actually totally created the ACL tear website@aclj.org/abortion will come up, but you can really go through state-by-state sonatas your states that surrounding stage pick through just see where people because the states are very different, yet some have a more restrictive rules and some don't. We can't have a sliding scale. There you can see as well but interesting tool that are a digital team and are a development team created. As you can really quickly see from a a a legal and nonbiased labor telling of facts here what your laws are in your area and what could be coming again how that's constantly evolving to ritually stay on that as well come of the next segment we have Rick Cornell joining us. If you want to get on the air.

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I want to start with the announcement yesterday. What you see happening is the politically things are tightening up, which is to be expected as we get toward September. Things are going to tighten up yesterday's big announcement was the forgiveness of loan debt $20,000 the right thought it was bad. The left thought it was not near enough it did impact on the people, and solemn lips that it's not fair to others, but this is mostly politics right now, right yet is no question that I think they saw that they were facing a blowout in November and they had become some sort of ideas. The Democrats are trying to make sure it's not a blowout settled into a big getaways. They're spending a lot of money, as is John McCain used to say they're spending like drunken sailors and my apologies to the sailors and some right now that must reconnect with with Rick on the grounds of issue zero get on the phone stuff on Skype. Sometimes that happens on a video connection. They talk about. These are politically existing, being played right now that the loan forgiveness is your generation is been impacted by me and it is on the side of the file you're on if you're on the conservative side right now.

It is the talking point and I think maybe slightly unfairly. I want out of his bumper sticker he would come to it. I hate that when you just like everyone kinda says the same thing they say all it's just that it's just you gotta pay back the loans you understand that I believe you should the doesn't stop the conversation but I believe a lot of these loans, the situations that happened were not necessarily on the up and up and I think a lot of people got taken advantage of. Let's not forget that part of the story.

There are a lot of kids and families.

Parents got taken advantage of. And no, I do think we are having a mass exodus from higher education for probably a positive overall of it being the only thing the only option you have is to go to college. I'm glad to see some of this change, but no one wants to be the hit with a bill essentially to to pay off other people's your liberal arts degrees which is not the case it's not how we all feel, and though I have sympathy for the fact a lot of people got really taken advantage of. And I think there were, there is solutions, hopefully to that.

This way, isn't it always be you messed up now. It's not just the government pays work because of that we visit you have to pay for it so it's a nice little talking point, but it is again a whim to come into primary season night so Rick we got your back.

Now the strategic announcement time minutes you getting into the holiday September holiday and then all of a sudden we are really into election season, so the timing on this was obviously political like this people fortress people against it when you see the trendlines here will blame them for trying). 13 a blowout in November. Trying to make their spending like crazy and I don't blame them for trying.

I think the Republicans right now have to get very focused on beating back some of the bad idea and and not good enough just to say don't do it, but you have to talk about why it's bad for you know individuals who make more than the hundred $25,000 or individuals who have already paid off their student loan I'm hearing a lot of people say laminate $10,000.

That's not even enough to do anything for my $90,000 gender study degree that I got so I think politics can be in our favor. If conservatives go out and get it corrected 1 inch main fact here. I think this is Susan Rice's first large-scale domestic launch. Remember that Susan Wright is inside the White House doing domestic politics and and this is the first time we cleaner at the podium at the White House talking about a wall out and I have to say been a disaster in her first day. Domestic rollout has not gone well so we got that issue and then you got the Iran issue where they're talking about. The President launched surgical strike on Iran backed rebels in Syria and at the same time would do try to get to the table to get an Iran nuclear deal back on the table which will be good for two more years. While everybody knows Iran's violated the entire time. You not only have they violated the entire time, but what I've been telling our friend Bennett focused on is the outstanding issues that the IAEA currently have Ron there are three out the ending question about enriched uranium about the Bordeaux plant and this is a plant where they have not allowed international infection bears a secret program going on. They have not apply guided by the UN arm of inspectors and and yet we continue to move forward portending we can trust the Iranian regime and we've already seen this Iranian regime targeting Americans to kill them here in the United States. I don't believe that anyone thinks including company like Sen. Chris Murphy biggest fan of the file. I don't even believe that he think that Iran is pulled back on terror activity so I don't understand why were negotiating with an Iranian regime that Hatton pulled back on it. Care plan is secretive toward the UN question, and we know heaven they've never been on so if the trust factor we got 1000 in Washington DC trusting the Iranian regime. I think that the bad mystic trustee as Nestlé sounds like something you want to bring up with you is as I'm still your usually involves a lot of what's going on politically, as we see sort of a shift in tone from the Democrats over the last month or maybe two months, not only because of robing overturned in those situations, but you have felt likely prevailing conversation was will Pres. Biden be able to even make it to run in 2024 will they even keep that going. Will we even allow it. As Democrats now heading into the midterms.

I think YouTube is a build up a bit more credit form seems like the tone of the media. The tone of the political after site. Now there there celebrating Pres. Biden say look at all the amazing things it is giving that it really happened the last three weeks we every read article just open a CNN article that open with look. Now he's back to like you look like a feeble old Joe Biden.

Now he's back to wearing sunglasses looking cool get stuff done.

This feels very strategic in terms of the way the media is now presenting this presidency (that we all meet you learn from what couple weeks as the media, the Democrat have not given up on Joe Biden running for reelection. They are still pushing him forward at the successful President they are trying to spin that is on a roll that he found his footing and that things are going to get better which means to me that their convincing they've already convinced himself and are trying to convince the rest of us that Joe Biden deserves reelection and in another 2 1/2 years.

That to me isn't that that I'll take all day long. I think that he get pleaded fast acting acting director of national intelligence was headed to beauty be dealt with classified documents and secure documents and is obviously been a lot of controversy in the press of last week to week since the situation in monologue involving what scarves are purported to be classified documents but again, we are now entering September in just a week were to be in September and then everybody knows it's for real political time for the midterms so these calculated political moves that these things are happening in this timeframe. If you look at the correspondence now that look like negotiations were going on with the former Presidents team and national archives for a year.

Yeah, I think when you look at the memo what the White House That to you know they had every right to go after the document.

The White House literally giving them the green light to go do that. That can mean signal the day or so theories about Donald Trump running and want to stop him mess him up PR exercise more than a legal exercise.

I think that the reality is they want to make it seem like it too much drama around, but what I think Washington DC method is that the rest of the people across the country are looking at policies and facts. They're looking at their their savings account.

They're looking at gas price inflation in crime in the border and they're saying you know what things were much better under the other guy and I think that's a argument that Washington Mrs. Devin have to get out of Washington and go into the to the state and try this message and I'll just point when they try to go into the state they're not welcome. We see Democrats across the spectrum fan I don't want to appear with Joe Biden so I think that's either staying in DC because they're not welcome in the rest of America really appreciate your insight is always working L Senior advisor national student foreign policy. Thanks for being with us.

We come back from the break we can talk about more unkind of the military situations going on, but also didn't want the student debt issue because Nancy Pelosi had a very interesting statement number plate would come back right about the President's limits on his authority and also the justice mom is just filed a submission under seal to the court. This submission is involving the affidavit that justified the rate I suspect that when I could hear anything on that today, but I could be wrong mostly back with more don't forget support the work of theaclj@aclj.org we are in a matching challenge campaign and also subscribe to the secular brothers. Think of the brothers podcast secular brothers.com you can find all the links to our spot a fine podcast for you on what this debt forgiveness issue that that is out there looking to the good analysis of the pros and the cons were people on this, but listen to what Nancy Pelosi said about this just about a year ago. People think that the President of the United States has the power for debt forgiveness. He does not he can postpone it can delay but he does not have that that has to be an act of Congress is that tells you the politics of this rule was motivated.

He could not get that legislation through Congress.

We did by executive fiat situations are coming from this administration that really it just frustrates a lot of people because they see oh you don't like the way it's going here. Let's change the rules of change, loss, pack the court that becomes the constant spin that comes out of this. You're like a rose overturned. Too bad really try to codify all that did work now are going to executive is what you like that try to add justices to the Supreme Court that I get to unilaterally pick its an absurd situation but it it's the playbook currently innocent. What is the playbook of social media response because they're responding to what they think is the mainstream respond to what they're hearing, which is at all costs.

Protect these things at all costs. Protect abortion.

All costs, climate, climate change, even if we all go one step into it and okay well we all want electric cars.

What I think are cool with the new looking at one step for you how to make an electricity will you don't get that from prisons or from the state or doing now that it's worth maybe the child endangerment and child slavery that's causing the creation of some of these batteries that are needed and it may be that having other parts of the world. It starts spinning out of control, but you only read the first part really see the first part that's what happens constantly over and over. So if this is an interesting issue. So, Jason Furman, who chaired Pres. Obama's Council of economic advisors ripped into the buying debt forgiveness plan in a lengthy twitter thread instead. Inflation said an 8 1/2% high in July was already expected to remain elevated for the foreseeable future before the announcement quote pouring roughly half $1 trillion gasoline will have a trucking dollars gasoline on the inflationary fire that is already burning is reckless then. He also tweeted doing it while going well beyond campaign promises $10,000 student loan wave and breaking another all proposals to be picked paid for is even worse. So you got people on the left and the right that do not like the way this is going then were on the heels like any day now of a possible situation with Iran with a nuclear deal, and here's what so bizarre about that. The President ordered strikes against Iranian backed Revolutionary guard rebels in Syria yesterday while was mostly sitting down with them negotiating in Iran nuclear deal West. It is so crazy, the President, as we say in the South, bless his heart, his bungling his way through foreign policy under so much duplicity in DC you mention euros education loan forgiveness think another thing that is being done by executive fiat. Is this Iran nuclear deal, there's a reason why Pres. Obama did not and Pres. Biden will not try to put put this through the Senate this treaty because it would not pass. It is not what the average American wants. It is certainly not what Israel wants, or are Arab Gulf allies, but it appears by the signature of the Biden administration and the Iranians and surround the terrorist that there is going to be in agreement here very soon and you know if this is alarming for the national security of the United States but more so for Israel and the Middle East. If this goes through. Here's what we know right now it would give $100 billion annually today to Iran in income, it will stop all IAEA investigations of their own to clear nuclear sites they found three so far.

It will also keep the military site still off-limits to inspection there will be no restriction on the ballistic missile program and get this in these negotiations.

There is no discussion. The Iranians have taken it off the table to even discuss their exporting of terrorism in the Middle East. So this is a an extremely bad, dangerous deal, but the President will do a better signature yet but that what they're trying to do is chalk up wins there trying to blow when you said, there's not gypsum wins going into the midterm elections, working with most people will not follow the details of an Iran nuclear data will be like Mr. doom and gloom at his work. It's the poll show that his work spin like Rick just said is working for the midterms right now. So where was a sure thing almost a year ago that you have this basic once you have this provincially sweeping the red wave if you will. I don't feel that right now I don't feel that from a country standpoint a lot more rallying behind the Democrats a lot more rallying behind me see what time she was having all these different states. George in Georgia where the polls of your Titans or you had things vaguely know polls are what they are but I can tell you can read the room of the country. The room of the country is not as is just as doom and gloom is maybe it was a but their activating was a lot more active. If you select this gas was $6.50 a gallon and now it's down to $4.20 a gallon and this is great for getting that was two years. It was a dollar 89, exactly, and that a year ago. It was a dollar cheaper. Pres. Biden crawled his faults in his missteps.

He has survived and thrived in the political swamp in DC for over four years and there's a reason and were beginning to see some of that to. He is he is crazy like a fox. He's very shrewd, in spite of all the missteps that he makes and politically. He's very smart you trying to doing anything to tie one I do, but I think they will wait at least till after the midterms, but I personally think they're going to wait until the next Presidential election to see who's in office because that will determine a lot about the US response in Russia, Ukraine, six months into that war today.

What prudent by all estimates is in the long game.

Here he just signed an order yesterday, increasing the Russian military by hundred and 37,000 troops that brings your total force to over 1 million active-duty troops. I think he's in it for the long called. It's a little bit ecstatic on the on the front lines.

Right now, but yesterday his defense minister Serge Shaw group made the statement that their approach to the war and and Ukraine is what he called a maximalist war, and that includes what they started from.

At the beginning he said what did they start from the beginning to depose the Ukrainian government and to put in their oak government so that is still their goal and they even though that they've had setbacks and is a little bit of a drawl right now in southeastern Ukraine. They are in it for the long haul and they are determined to win what you think will do right now.

The people's interest right now.

Conservatives upset about what happened down to the present one present like that move politically lately is that impacting anything right now. I think it was the moment I think because nothing's come of it. It's sort of off the news would merely talk talk about here there but it didn't. Maybe I think it was it was a spark, but this I become a fire in terms of that of a rallying cry that happened around Dobbs that was became a spark deadness I become this huge fire on the country because you can see those protests in the streets like you did for other issues that the people are very nuanced on their feelings mentally talked about new it's on their feelings about abortion, but not necessarily all or nothing, right they have the sort of conflicted yellow these conflicted feelings, especially if they're not of faith that they they see both sides and you have these extremes on both sides really causing an issue that is something that is played out, and I think of a curious few weeks to see if all you got your talk about six weeks. There eight weeks until really let me 10 really, technically, would you got the weeks that don't count, which followed a week after the holiday, you are your seven weeks away from the midterm elections right and so you get the house or not you get the Senate were there not a note to be big rebukes were you just hit the reset button see where where everyone stands if that will really update the reset button here for ACLJ because our work continues regardless love is let you know that he could support the work ACLJ eight don't also forget to sign up for their podcast secular Brothers luncheon September 12 that's right you do that secular Brothers.com or find it on Apple podcasts modify the video component as well. Watching a little bit later on 12 subscribe to the later work ACLJ at ACLJ