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BREAKING: Another MAJOR Supreme Court Victory

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June 27, 2022 3:22 pm

BREAKING: Another MAJOR Supreme Court Victory

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June 27, 2022 3:22 pm

In breaking news, the Supreme Court of the United States just issued an opinion in Kennedy v. Bremerton School District. The case involves a high school football coach who was fired from his job simply because he would kneel "at midfield after games to offer a quiet personal prayer." In a 6-to-3 ruling, the Court reversed the Court of Appeals verdict and stated that the school had punished the coach for an act that was " doubly protected by the Free Exercise and Free Speech Clauses of the First Amendment." Jay, Jordan, and the rest of the Sekulow team break down this major victory for religious liberty at the Supreme Court. This and more today on Sekulow.

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So he goes there is another major US Supreme Court share with family talk about as well. Now go after. On Friday, the supreme today in favor of religious liberty. The free exercise of religion on wanted the court ruled for a former prepaid to this case former high school football coach lost his job after leaving postgame prayers at midfield. The court's latest decision. They have again said of this is just discourses 6 to 3 that the prayers of the coach are protected by the Constitution guarantees of free speech and the free exercise of religion clauses of the free exercise of religion so you have a get a case on Friday monumental. The Roe versus Wade case. This case very much staying in line with where the court is the building when it comes to religious liberty in the public square.

Especially when it involves young people, students, miters basically were talking about. But again, the court said that this coach and the constitutional right to make that prayer said firing of him for doing that I was wrong yet. It's interesting because the biggest aspect of this case was was the court can leave in place what we call in the legal world. The lemon test and this was a very complex three-part legal test to determine if an activity violated the establishment clause. Separation of church and state as the left likes to call was interesting that this case is they not only said that the judge they are asking me to coach had the right to engage in that prayer was private speech, not government speech, but they also said that the fact that there were students around the area did not make it immune from First Amendment protection will go into the particulars in a minute. But the court also did away with the lemon test what they said was that the application of the lemon test. In this context, and in the end they talk about history of cases has been met, misplaced, and then they said, in place of lemon and the endorsement test. Those were the progeny of lemon if you will, the court has instructed that the establishment clause must be interpreted by reference to historical practice and understanding and that really focuses in on lack of coercion you not you will have an establishment clause violation if the government suppressants for you to be a officer of a police officer you have to believe in this religion of that religion or if if you want to get your diploma you have to go to this baccalaureate service at a high school or if you were to play next week at a game you have to participate in the prayer by the coach that would be a violation but individual student speech is fully protected. Get into the particulars on that in the next segment. That's good decision finally gets rid of lemon. Even the dissent says lemon's gone. That's a big when it's important I think is important to emphasize. These cases are still to be very fact specific. Yet after their talk about with it when they say look at the historical practice is the understanding, but did say to that at at and I think this is important to have time at the free exercise of religion meeting something again the and and and the it's not just all about the establishment clause.

The court went on to say, a natural reading of the First Amendment suggested that clauses have complementary purposes, not warring ones where one clause their time at their the establishment cause is always sure to prevail over the others, and analysis focused on the original meeting in history this quarter stressed and as long represented the rule rather than some exception within the courts or cause a jurisprudence so I think that this is important to note is that the free exercise clause which is meant nothing to courts for decades means something to this current court they've done that time and time again they show that and that they don't just bow down and say well if there's the exercise because the establishment clause issue. The establishment clause always wins. That is no longer the case.

No.

In fact they cited our case of Morgan versus Board of Education for this proposition of the establishment clause does not compel the government to purge from the public sphere anything an objective observer would reasonably infer as endorsement overtakes of religion.

In other words, you cannot. The fact that there is a religious connotation to it, doesn't mean it's immune from First Amendment speech and free exercise protection something when you get into the particulars we come back from the break will take your calls on this well 1-800-684-3110 800-684-3110 back with more among the second is a lot of victories at the supreme word in just the past couple of days of the court. The pig is Friday, overturning Roe versus Wade and Casey future were not done analyzing that by any means. We have a really gotten started on explaining she about the next steps will be taking at the ACLJ we are getting it into some the next of Planned Parenthood started taking in court in places like Utah, which is interesting because their legal arguments are all over the place, to say the least. Which means that they were prepared but not prepared to make really anything that doesn't seem like anything to be convincing based off the Supreme Court opinion eviscerating all these federal rights, and then today another religious liberty victory that this court case that went on way too long years of litigation just to say that there is no constitutional crisis for a football coach at a public school to go on to the what is the 50 yard line at the end zone and pray on their own and that's what this is about is there a constitutional crisis of the courts in the courts against the report said yes I Supreme Court 63 said absolutely not.

This the first of free speech issue and a free exercise of religion issue. The establishment clause doesn't always win and they said I think was important as well. This was that from the court's opinion in place of limit, which is the test. It really because all these cases because living was so involved, factually, didn't do this for you involve this way, did the government have to look at it this way that what three-part test is not like an ABC test. It was very fact every what the courts of the days in place of limit and the endorsement test, which had a follow lemon by this court is instructed that the establishment clause be interpreted by reference to historical practices and understandings that still opens the door to more cases of literature. A dozen in in that it's not like Robert says this is not I said it's not the federal law.

It's not in the Constitution.

So come to us for to find this right that this still keeps a lot of these cases in federal court, but when I do hope it means that they will have to be seven year-long battles. It will not, and which interesting also is the court on page 22 of his opinion cited our case in Morgan's versus website Board of Education was I community schools versus Morgan's for this proposition establishment clause violation does not automatically follow whenever a public school or other government entity fails to censor private religious speech. So I think it's fair to say that the battle line.

Harry has been clarified that private religious speech, which is been true since Morgan's is constitutionally protected when when you have the mechanisms of government involved not so much. I think that is precisely correct and so I think coach Kennedy clearly establish that his conduct, the conduct at issue in this case was private religious speech and that speech was protected by the free exercise clause as well. As the speech clause of the first amendment and so if we look at this particular case going forward. This is an important case because it really emphasizes that private religious speech is a protected right and we can no longer utilize the establishment clause to infringe on private religious speech in Paris cases of the Supreme Court has allowed what could be called the heckler's veto, someone who simply objected to the kind of speech engaged in by coach Kennedy or someone else this court.

I think has now firmly established that the heckler's veto has now been sent to the grave. For purposes of future constitutional litigation.

That's a welcome development and I'm glad to see that the ACLJ has supported through an amicus brief the decision-making of the supreme. It's also interesting that Justice Scalia wrote in the cases also cited in the spring lambs travel which was that the ability of the church new school facilities for educational film series, Christian perspective, which was denied and we one that unanimously also which interesting that that case, Justice Scalia said that the lemon test was like he called a ghoul in a late-night horror show that scares school districts and evidently schoolchildren because it continues to come out of his. He called it the grave to to wreck havoc on the free speech and free exercise clauses in the guise of an establishment clause from his reasoning in that case was utilized here so I think it's important to point out Jordan that the court is finally said that the shortcomings associated with the lemon test. The chaos that it created in its wake.

You could never really determine what was legal and what wasn't that what we reach the new season now.

Yet it was completely against subjective tenant what just what kind of majority. You had, you can always say the lemon test prevented something you could always say that you can also ignore the lemon test cycle justice, the late Justice Scalia would talk about is that most the time they did ignored until he felt like they need to bring her back from the dead to me that that six guys that were said and eyes that some commentators are said today. Maybe this is the final nail in the coffin so that he can't keep coming back from the debt. I wanted to play.

This is the exchange between Paul Clement, who argued this case injustice Al Gore search for think is probably the heart of where where we got to this decision today because it was really a is there coercion here. No particular said by 39 one of the difficulties in this case is hitting one's hands around the district's rationale and as I understood it was based on kind of our lemon endorsement test, and you are arguing is not as I hear you, that that's that was a mistake in test and it is a mistaken way to think about with the establishment clause requires you had a colloquy about pollution alternative just like your thoughts on that subject that I appreciate the question. I don't think I'm in.

The people are trying to dispute this record.

I think it is very clear on what motivated the district and was endorsement endorsement endorsement endorsement again.

Not enough coercion not to worship so it's interesting about that you picked up on is it again coercing people saying electro play next week on the team. Unless you do the prayer court set into that writing over the loudspeaker coercing a guide be part of the prayer courts not into that right now.

Students individually as a group, the entire student body and early but I do stand up and say that you know prayer and a footballing Princeton students are doing that what they're doing is he doing it without the mechanism of the government.

But here's the test that is now in place, replacing lemon is at the line that the courts and governments must draw between the permissible and impermissible has to do with history and faithfully reflect the understanding Harry of the founding fathers of this is very much a textual test is being put in place.

I think that is correct and I also think that the court has rejected and we did to the lemon versus Kurtzman analysis, which was the result of a deliberate attempt to remove all traces of religion from public life and this particular court opinion restores the viability of religion within the framework of public life so long, is there that so long as there is no evidence of coercive intent or action by the individual and so in this particular case coach Kennedy simply knelt by himself at the middle of the field. He didn't coerce anyone.

He didn't demand that the district endorse his religious perspective and I think the court finds that his conduct falls within the history and traditions of the United States yells for the fall 2064, 31 to them, but I'm not worried to question about row two.

There's plenty of those. And I understand that's of your questions on that. I still from the last week absolutely will take your calls, one 800 684 31 to this industry went on from Daniel in South Carolina online. What he did of Daniel, but I'm from South Dakota. I did that's okay I just wanted to ask you this question. But before I do that I wanted to complement J very much. He never shows age even after working in legal cases for 40 years or more like his wanted to leave that complement to him that's on the outside of the area to help. I heard yesterday at the look driving locally in my area from a radio station that according to CBS the majority of Americans do not approve of that change that Supreme Court made for us by abolishing goal versus Wade. Is that correct.

I think it's all based on how you asked the question so people thought that real versus Wade is really about women's rights in general. So when people get asked that question yeah I think you start to see a little it favors not overturning overspray for sets. That's just it's not reality. Now his reverse weight is been overturned when you change the question to say you believe that there should be abortion after 50 weeks that the shift happens right then write some people actually know what they're being questioned about when is the abortion going to occur.

What are we going to allow in our state there exists a seismic shift where the majority of the country says no should not be abortion after this meeting. Lisa should not be late term abortions they should not be abortion on demand with no restrictions. It also that the difference I think that Roe versus Wade question is way too broad of a question to pull people out because they don't exactly know the full ramifications of what it means, but it's fair to ask that because you get to hear that a lot from politicians who want to codify row either at the state level, but even at the federal level. This new plate at the federal level, say get us to more Democrat senators and let's abolish the filibuster legislative filibuster completely and codify our Roe versus Wade.

There is a move by that by Democrats trying to seize on this election cycle to get Roe codified. I don't think it's a witty message but I'm not a Democrat and not Democrat voters to their speaking to a different group to be be right back on secular take your calls back to say that's understandable. Friday at the people that we could take a breath and realize he was asleep for my state and people start to look at that and therefore ACLJ action.

We arty radio we know what it means for your state right now and were starting that process as we speak really into more detail that as we go on at the ACLJ but we do want to answer people's questions about it, but also talked about again faithfully and this is what you what I was most concerned about Friday was happy about.

Of course with the decision Is the right word to say but you knows that it's not see violence in sudsy police officers get hurt since he a ton of vandalism a fleet.

There wasn't mass know what I would say was at a mass in chief and certainly showed up at some events, but it didn't look like they were able to take over the crowd, but there was some in order to put up on screen to show you this ad of Virginia. Let's go first to Virginia so you see there. I smashed windows using daylight images and the that that message from Jay's revenge. If abortion ain't safe. You ain't safe. That's in Virginia and then also in Colorado at this is that night and eight that firebombed she will see the fire.

These arrogant pro-life crazy sitters and get pro-life organizations that have come under attack but thankfully that they did not up those attacks the sense that they did try to attack people you know it's interesting to me that the it still being talked about, but I think that that the protests were actually pretty muted. If you really look at it now. The but the focus is on the crisis pregnancy centers clearly that these conflicting prevents CC art are focusing on the crisis pregnancy centers and they always stand because they are the ones that are on the front lines and legislatures. By the wettest trail and that they're the ones on the front lines and they're the ones that are making a difference. There provide free and confidential services. Pregnancy test ultrasound statement provide life coaching life and parenting skills, coaching and post abortive counseling as well and so there that they are the targets. They're the ones that are cutting and to Planned Parenthood's bottom line.

And that's why we see these firebombs and the Advanta analyzing and leasing 66. I think now since the Dobbs opinion was leaked like Jordan said only three, I think over the weekend after the actual opinion on Friday. Statistics of the calls 164, 31 to worry servicing the battles as are the court case found in Utah that Planned Parenthood will talk about later. The broadcast of Rick in Montana with a history question online.

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Hey Rick how the dog.

I like all applicable Roby Way You Bring Ct., Montana Supreme Court said no it bill protected under the Constitution, though the Montana brain court have jurisdiction order the fall back on the US, in part, so now it goes back to the states.

So what we were doing at ACLJ action is looking at a state like Montana like if you got a precedent like that where either the court read into that from your state Constitution one. 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ConstitutionatthestatelevelisverydifferentprocessandIwouldsayeasy,butisalotmoremanageable.Sowewereputtingtogetherthestatesthatwebelievewillhavetoputinconstitutionalamendmentsbeforetheirlawswillbeassessedsafelyupheldinthecourtsforuseknowthey'regoingtobeofhowthecourtssooutinMontanalookslikeitmightbeoneofthosewouldworkandthatasalepartoftheproblemiswhenyounotedthatitisreturnedtothestatesofthisessaycouldsayyesthisistheorganhappilyhasauthoritymayhavetheauthoritytosaygetwerecognizerighttorowtherighttoabortionforagonizingRoe.Here'swasn'tunderthesinkoxygenifitwasbasedonRoseequalprotectionclauseandkindofanalysisthatisnowtotallysuspectsoworkrequiregoingbackintocourttotakealookatthoseandthat'spartofwhatweredoingrightandsoififthatConstitutiondoesn'tactuallyhavetherighttoabortioninit,buttheyfounditfollowingrowthroughtherighttoprivacyinEastjudiciallycreatedrightslandthat'sworkingtogobackandandweregoingtohavetohavethesamebattlesthatwesoughttheSupremeCourtwherethejusticesrightfullyfoundthattheirprivacyrightsinthesejudiciallycreatedrightsdon'tstandwithdurabilitycourtsthatweneedtobeclear,this30statesmancourtstakethatundertheirstateconstitutionisrighttoabortionallhavesomethingintheopinionthatprohibitsthatabsolutelyreturnsittothestates.That'swhatRoeversusWadedidincorrectlyfederalizetheright.Thatreallywasbasedonshouldbeendecidedbythepeopleandtheirelectedrepresentativestotakeyourcallsansweredquestions164,31tothinkthisisinterestingtofromJohninNebraskaonline.Wantajoblikeallallhimwithwiththiswholething.Youknowitfromtheget-go.LikewhentheyreleasedtheletterwhenIgotleaked.Ireallydidn'tbelievethatitwasaleak.IthoughtaboutwastalentattachedtoseehowtheAmericanpeoplewouldreact.Also,IcanputthiswholethingishappeningreallyfastanditismotivatingtheleftismotivatingalotofDemocrattocomeoutandvote.AlotofDemocraticwomenareraisingtheirvoicesandicingonthenewstheotherdaythattheythatthereweresayingafewSupremeCourtjusticesliedunderoathaboutthisissue.Idon'tknowexactlywhatImean.Iguessthatisinthatthatistotalnonsense.Welistenwhattheysaidtheysaidexactlywhatstaredecisisis.Thatisapreviousprecedentandhowyouviewpreviousprecedent,butitdoesn'tmeanthepreviousprecedentcannotbestarted,suchasisnotmeanitcan'tbeoverturnedbecauseofthatwasthecase,youwouldstillhavetheinternmentofJapaneseAmericansafterWorldWarIIseparatebutequal"inPlessyversusFergusonandIIcangothroughalistofcasesthatweredecidedinabeenonthebooksforalongtimeeventuallywillreturnasaviolationsofthelawsoughtthatpartIIIthinkthat'snonsensegoingafterthesejusticeandIthinkthetruthisIdon'tlikeisthiswherethepeoplearegoingtohearalotofthisdisinformationfromtheleftontheirsin,andsoyouhearthingslikethatthejusticeliedunderoath.Knowtheydidnotthinkcarefullyansweredquestionsandthatlet'sbehonest,alltheseeveryoneisjustaspeopleknewthattheirfeelingsonthisissuerelatedtherepot.TheDemocratswhovotedformore.TheRepublicansarepro-abortionvotingform,youknowwhoyou'revotingforyearsI'veheardBarrettCavanaughandcorsetsyesandlooktheiropinionsthattheopinionthatLenawroteisextremelywellreasoned.ThefactofthematteristhethisisabutIcangettobeclearonthis,werecelebratingthevictoryliketorrentsandsamewerethrilledisanunderstatement.Weworkonthisfor40years.Butwealsowereawarethatoncethatwassuccessful.Thefightscanbemistakesandtherearecurrentlystatesthatallowwitnessandhestatesthatthatrestrictedhismistakesairintakemiddlegroundthatit'scanbeverymuchdependentuponconstitutionalanalysisunderthestateConstitutionAvenueandwe'vealwaysbeenveryclearthatthatyouknowifinfrontoftheWadeisoverturned,whichitwasthankfullyatthebattledoesnot,andtherethatnowthebattleturnstothestatesandtheredefinitelystatesthatweregoingtohavetobeengagedinfindingandinfactworkingatalkIthinkaboutwhenlateronIUtahthat'sArtiebeenattackedandsoweknowwherethefightsgettingoutweeklybeenpreparedforthatandIwerereadytotakeaction,andinthestatesaswell.TakeMicrosoftquicklyonline60Michaelherwishyouallwellthankyouwhattodo.Ihaveaquestiononentity.IliveinWashingtonandalreadystarttousethesanctuarycitytermyesandIwonder.Iwonderifthey'repreparedfortheinflectionandcircumstanceinonewayortheothercitiesyouliveinaprettylittlestateinWashingtonandstatesthataregoingtocomeabortionsitters.Maybethat'swhattheywanttheirstatestobeknownfortheirresidencewillthinktwiceabouthisessaythatwouldliveitthebasismuchattentiontothiscelebrationoftheendingofahumanlifeofitsearlierinexistingNewYorkandCaliforniaandNewMexico.IthinktheWashingtonstateweretodobattlethere.Thefolksbecausereallyexposewhatthesepoliticiansaresupportingunitsbeensofocusedatthefederallevel.Nowyourstateelectedofficialsaregoingtohavetoconfrontitfirsthandlikethefacingkeepingyouinformedanythingnowisahugevictorylife.Theoverturningofrovers.WadeHeidibytheUSsupremewords.Buttoday,abigvictoryforreligiouslibertyoftheUSSupremeCourtthatfortheKochicase.Ittookwaytoolongcoatshotathighschoolfootballcoachpublic-schoolcoachtoafterthegatewouldgoouttopartofthefieldandpraythisbecameaconstitutionalcrisisbecauseofacivilclaimthattheirstudentwasanatheist,oreventhatwasquestionablebecauseitwasinthefamilywas,butthestudentbutokaythestudentwasn'tbeingaskedtopraythestudentwasitthecoachdidsayyoumustprayandthestudentthatpostedandusethosetermslikeifyoudon'tprayifyoudon'tshowuptothisplannextweekareyourrunninglaps.Nothinglikethat.So,theSupremeCourtclearlyinfavorofthecoachesoffreeexerciseofreligionrights,butalsoFirstAmendmentrights,andIthinkthatisgetprettyclearwherethecourtiswhenitcomestoreligiouslibertyinvolvingatleastyoungpeoplesoIknowthatsomepeopleinhighschoolarestartingfiveadultsat18,butmostlythey'relookingatminorshereyet.AndimportantlyIthinkforthisis,therewasalegaltestthatwasbeingappliedforthestepsinclosetwascalledthelemontestanditwasadisaster.Itwasathree-parttestingtodeterminewhatwasthesecularpurposewasherentanglementandwhatthecourtisinplacewithhishistoryandbasicallyacoerciontest.Ifthere'snotcoercionaboutnumbersofthecustomerstheylistenunnoticedtothisprayerandifyouparticipateinit.Youcanplayfootballnextweek.Ifyouknowprincesmaynotwanttoplay,thatwouldbeunconstitutionalbutthatstoppedthatthecoacheswantstopraywhatthestudentswanttogetmetogetherandprayintherighttodothatandthat'swhatthecourtsaidyoucan'tusethemechanismofthegovernment.Let'susethePAsystem,butyoucan.ThestudentscanintheentirestancetogetupandsayLord'sprayerwhichhappenedinSantaFeinthecaseinvolvingprivatefootballgameyoucouldnotusethemechanismthestateconstitutionaltodaywhatIthinkwouldstillnotbeconstitutional.AministerRabbiPreececominginbeforeatthegraduationceremonyandofferinganinvocationnow,afterthetownofGreececaseit'salittlebitsuspect.Ithinktheremaybesomewigglethere,butthecourtinthisopiniontodaydidnotindicatethatthatthatanythingwhereyougotcompelledattendanceforstudentswouldbeproblematic.Butaccordingthousandstudentsthemselveshavetherighttodothatkindofactivityforitsvaledictorianoftheclassoncegiveaspeechandtalkabouttheparticularfaithjourneythatcanbeallowedtodothat.Underthistest,yeahthat'srightseculartakebecauseofthat1643110peoplestuffquestionshonestly,IthinkfairlyreallyansweralotofquestionsforforweeksonthewhatittrulymeansthatovertheRoeversusWadeisbeenoverturnedandhowthatcouldimpactyourstatesellingit.Youcangothroughliterally50differentbroadcastsfocusingon50differentstatesweretobedoingitasneeded.AsyourquestionscomeinoverallsecurityfolkstogetACLJactionandutilizeACLJ'slegalteamonsomestatesthathavehadarightinthemiddle.Theyneedalittlehelp.Theyneedaconstitutionallimit.Thestatelevel.Theneedtochangesomelawsoit'snotjustthattheywilljusthaveatriggerlogplaceinthereadytogoandeatalittlebitmorework.They'vegotthevotes.Theygotthepro-lifesupportoftheirtheirstatebuttheygotyoualittlebitmoreworkinordertobeinvolvedinthosestatesverydirectlyfirsthand,whetherthroughadvertisinglobbythroughACLJaction.Ofcourse,utilizingourlegalteamtoputtogetherthoseconstitutionaldebitsthatmayneedtobemoveforwardinyourstate,butalotofquestionsalotofcallsaboutthatat1643110.Thiswasinteresting.Ithinkit'sveryquickly.LoriataffairsonlinetoheyLori,thanksfortakingmycallwithroadwaybeingoverturnedisthatthattherewillbenofederalfundingofPlannedParenthood.That'sadifferentbattlebecauseplaintifftechnicallycan'tusethosefundstopayforabortionsoutsideaccountinggimmickisitfreesupanotherdollarforthemtousetopayforabortions,butthatisadifferentbadalegislativelythatwilltakeaRepublicanhousemajorityataSenatemajorityandaRepublicanPresidentandevertalkingsignificantmajoritiesbecausetherestillisalegislativefilibusteredbyrequire60votesevenwhenthepresenttrumpetsoftenhadthathouseincident.AsyousawfromSusanCollins.Lisareallyhasveryfewotherswhodon't.Wedon'thave60swithoutsniffingsixthatPlannedParenthoodyetsoIthinkhehadjustbecomefacilitiesbattlescontinueweredoingisorganizingsoweknowhowtoapproachthesenewissues.Thisisnotcatchingusupgarbageandplanningthisformonths.Themorewecomebackone80068431somethingcallsaswell.Theaverageproductivityjoiningusaswellisyougoingonintheworldtomajordomesticcourtdecisionswhichbytheway,putusinline.EspeciallyRoeversusWadewiththerestoftheworldthatwerenotanoutliercountrywhenitcomestoinfanticidelikeNorthKoreaandChinawhichweusedtobeinthatgroupusedtobetheUnitedStates,NorthKoreaandChinathatthefederalnationallevelhadbasicallynorestrictionsonabortionwerenolongerinthatbadgroupifyouwillthatclubandeveryreturnnowtoreallywheremoststatesandmostrestrictionsweretalking.ThatwillbeinlinewithwhereEuropeisincludingyouputalotofproductivelyCatholiccountries,includingevenLatinAmericaSOIagainputsusit'smoremainstreamfortheUnitedStates.Actually,insteadofbeingthisextremecountryasitisassociatedwithworsehumanrightsabuserswhenitcomestotheabortionissueearlierrecruitoursenioradvisorforforeignpolicyandnationalsecuritybecauseit'stoobigmeetingsoccurringrightnowRickoneistheG7thatisoccurringinMunichaswespeakandit'salotoftalkagainabouteconomics,butofcourseUkraineaswell.ThesearebigissuesthatareontheplatefortheG7.ObviouslytheUkrainianswouldliketoseetheG7doalotmore.WeclearlyhaveseentheGermanstalkaboutdoingsomemore.TheyhadreallybeenshockinghowlittleEuropeisdoneledbytheGermansandtheydidthisfunnythingwhentheysaidareputtheUkrainiansandintotheapplicationprocesstojointheEUandthentheGermansq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bersoftheGermancabinetthatwerereallysupportivedataencouragedmetobestrongerandinmorepotentandthenothertimestheywouldsayno.YouknowwewanttojustbeEuropeandworkweredonewiththiskindofWesternallianceofpickingfights.IthinkthegreatestchangethatIthinkthatthere'saflippingthepoliciesandtheyrealizethattheyhavetobemoreWesternandwhite,saiddowntownwasright,butIhearapoliticalquestionforyouRicksaidtofinishuptodayandthatistheDemocratsseemtobeseizingontheRoeversusWadeoverbeingoverturnedasliketheirsavinggraceforthemidtermelections.Ihavemyownthoughtsarethattheureaearkindofreactiontothatthatwillsomehowpeoplewillignoreinflation.ThisforeignkindofinsecurityforRoeversusWadeoversoIdon'tthinkanyonecanignoreinflationorgasprices,buttotheextenttheDemocratswanttomakeabortiontheissue.RepublicanshaveanopportunitytomakeahorseintheissuingshowtheworldthattheDemocratsareradicalyoulookatothercountriesaroundtheworldandnobodywantslate-termabortionsisveryunpopulargovernorNewsomhereinCaliforniaismakingamovetoenshrineitintotheCaliforniaConstitution.ImadeitclearhetriestodothatwewillfindhimhardbecauseIdon'tbelieveprintsizeCalifornianswanttoseelate-termabortions.Let'shavethatdebateandIthinkthattheylosethiswhenweareabletotalkabouttheissuesandwhatthey'retryingtoputforward,let'sbeveryclearwithwhatthey'retryingtodoRick.Asalwaysweappreciateit,buttheinternationalinsightthatforeignpolicyinsightandthepoliticalinsightisalwaystakesplaceformajorityisariskofcoursepartofourteamwithACLJbecauseyourfinancialsupportoftheAmericanCenterforLawandJusticesaidsotohavehimasourSenioradvisorforpolicynationalsecuritywithintheinvestortoGermanywhohasbeentheactingdirectorofnationalintelligence,butalsoveryinvolvedinpoliticsinvolvedwiththeUNsensoryissuesthatcomebeforeuscanprovideinsightthatothersjustcan'tisahabitheldthispositionwithoutyou.Ithinkthat'srightinyoursupport.TheACLJmakesallthepossibletomeettoGloriacausinghimbackonRoeversusWadeandtheimpact1-800-684-3110.Thecostof106843-1106PlannedParenthood'sfirstlegalchallengessincehisWadedecisionoverturningRoeversusWade.OnFridaytheyarebackincourtinUtahwilltalkaboutthatabitbutIdowantkeepansweringpeople'squestionsonRouteit'sunderstandablethatpeoplestillhavethosequestionsgotoRobertforthefirstonlinewhatheRobertallthedotscasewasdecidedona5to4.AlthoughJoeBidenweretobeabletoappointanotherSupremeCourtjustice.WhatyouthinkthelikelihoodofwouldbethatthenewcourtwouldquicklymovetoreinstateRoeversusWaderesultwas63thatthelawwasconstitutionaljustice.Isidroshouldbeoverturned.SixsaidthattheMississippilawthatbansabortionin15weekswasn'tthatconstitutionalsotheyhavebeenalotofreplacement.Itwoulddependonwhothejudge.JusticeisbutIthinkthisdecisionissaferforthetermbutIthinkwehavetoreallyfocusonwhichweregoingtoisyoulookatbloodUtahPlannedParenthoodfiledalawsuitliterallywithinhoursofthedecisioncomingdownagain.TheywentafterUtahUtahhowtotriggerlosssoabortionsarebannedinUtahexceptforinlifeandthemotherrapeandincestandseverebrainabnormalityandthebabyandofcourse,andPlannedParenthoodseenimmediatelyandadayonaledgethatthelawviolatesUtah'sConstitutioninsevenways,andthesearerighttodeterminefamilycomposition,andparentrightofequalprotectionrightsuniformoperationoflaw'srighttobodilyintegrity,rightsofconsciencerightstoprivacyandtheprohibitionofinvoluntaryservitude,secondaryyessaidthey'rebasicallytryingtodowhatroundjustsaidthatthejusticesintheAndyDobbsdecisionsaid,inarow.CreatedtheserightsfromtheConstitutionandtheycan'tdothatandnowthey'retryingthisinUtahandUtahSupremeCourthasnotpreviouslyfoundinabortionrightintheUtahConstitutionbattlesinAbinameanthiscouldbethestatecourtyetgottoputovertherearguingantislaverypositionintheUtahConstitutionisoneoftheirclaims.Thecauseofactionhereinvoluntaryservitude.Ifyoudon'teatequalprotection,meaningthatthisissomeanti-womenandsidingyougotIgetthere,whatisinthiscase,whichisinterestingisthatunlikesomethestateswhichhavesomeinterestingconstitutionalamendmentsthathavebeenmadeorlawsofthebooksthereaskingtheUtahcourttodowiththeSupremeCourtjustrejecteddoingwhichisreadingintotheconversationinstitutionabunchofrightsthataren'tthereandlegislativelyhaven'tbeenlegislatedbythepeople'srepresentativesandintheSupremeCourtoftheUnitedStateshasheldsince1991.ItwasreincorporatedonFridaythatoppositiontoabortionisnotdiscriminationagainstwomen.SothewholeequalprotectionclausewhichallthisisEmilyfromdoesn'tapply,butlookwhatwerenotshockedthatyoutowanttodothiswilltakemorecallsyet1643110let'sgotoCherylinNewYorkonline6Teixeira,MichaelMarkandyouknowIheardthatthegovernorisquitetryingtomakeitawelcomingstateofWashington.I'mtotallyagainstit.IampoliteforthewayI'mamemberofALJactionwantedtoknowacomplaintonACLJgoingtogoafterNewYorkbetrayedWashingtonIbelieveUntilBarrickgetitbacklikethisareplayedsureIdon'tgivetoomuchawaytoheropponentsputourplanisIwerelookingrightoutall50statesandwilldeceiveyouwiththeresourceswehaveavailable,speakacoupleofsimilarlysituatedstatesthatareverypro-life,acoupleofthemiddleofthecouple,likeNewYorkandwearegoingtodoworkthere.Oneistoexpose.Ithinkwhatwefirsthavetodoiswriterunadcampaignstoexposetheaddtothevoters.LaterCherylwhatexactlytheymeanwhentheysayabortionwhentherestrictionisyousetabortionupuntilbirthsometimesareusinglanguagenowthatwouldallowthemtohavethebirthandthendecidewhetherornottokillthechildisthePalatinateapparentlyyetweheardthatfromGov.NorthamofVirginia.Remember,hesaidthatyoukeepthechildcomfortablewhileyoudecidewhethernotkillthemornot.SowearegoingtoexposethepoliticianswiththerealfactsbecausesofarthisisbeenreallyfocusedatthefederallevelandtheybeenabletohidebehindrowinWashingtonDC.Theycan'tdothatanymore.NewYorkit'sreallyit'sgoodtobeNewYorkthathasthoselawsthatthefederalgovernment,nottheUnitedStatesgovernmentNewYorkpoliticianswhohavetoownthatinordertomakesuretheyownyouandIthinkalsotheonthedepreciatedvitaminratioyetbywhathecouldjoinACLJactions$25onceayear.Youknowitwillfeellikebutthat'sallitisbecomeamemberofACLJactuallyhurtyoudothatmaybeanarmoftheACOJsotospeak.Simpleorganizationsothatwecangetinonthelegislativesideofthisandlikeyousaid,takeadsoutbyexposingwhatisatplaywhenyousaysomeonesaysthatthat'swhythesepollsaremeaninglesssummonsesarepluggedpro-choicewithinabeaskeddoyoubelieveinabortioncouldtakeplaceintheseventh,eighthorninthmonthofpregnancywillknowwhatyetalotofstates,anumberofsectionsalotwhilstanumberofstatesallowrightnotonlyallowedbutnowIseelegislationwherewesentaperinatallanguagewhichmeansafterabortion,saidthebabyisbornandnowyoucankillababythatisbornaliveandtheyhaverightsnowthatthey'retryingtopushthroughtokillababyafterit'sborn.Sothesearethethingsthatwillwillcalltotheforefrontandpeoplelikeyousaidaren'tgoingtobeabletostandbehindthefederalgovernmentandtheRoeVWadedecisioncircuittotakephonecalls100-684-3110SallyNorthCarolinaonlinethreeheySally,ruddywayorwillorifittaketothepicnic.Ithinktheanswershecouldandwouldyouutilizingtheabortionpillbasedonstatelaw.Soisthatpilleffectivepast15weeks.Ifso,youtakethepillsprescribedafter15weeksandonlywhenmydoctorthatcouldbeviolation.Ifit'sperfectifit'sagainprescribedbeforethatwouldnotviolatecurrentlyaddingMississippi'slaw,buttowriterightnowwhatI'minterested10statesthathavetriggerlawsgoingattheplace,thisisgoingtobeahugepartofthedebate,though,isthemedicmedical.Itwouldbesaythatit'susingMedicaidMaticmedicationabortion.Thisisnotamorningafterpillrightthisisareyou,46,andothermoreinvasivepillswhichusuallyneedtobeunderdoctorsbecauseofpeopletobleedout.SothecourtsaidthatwasnotaconstitutionalrighttoabortiontheConstitutiontheydidn'tsaythattherewasnotaconstitutionalrighttoamedicalsurgeryprocedureabortion.Theysaidisnotaconstitutionalrighttoabortion.Itsaidthereisnorighttokillyourbabyandthatdoesn'tmatterwhattheprocedureisright,whetherit'sapillwhetherit'ssurgical.Thiswillbethestatesthanaregoingtohavetoframetheirlegislationtosaywhattheywillallowandwhattheywillnotallowandthatwillbesurgicalabortionsmedicalabortionsthatwillhavetobeaddressedinthestates.LetthatlegislationisagoodtimetoremindeverybodythatwelaunchedACLJactionandthisbecausesomanythesequestionsfallwithinthepurview.WhatACLJactioncandowhenyoutakeamomentornearthe]witnessestoit'sinlinewiththeoftheSouthDakotaGov.ChristienoManasses.YouwillbanabortionpillsprescribedonlinesoandwerepresentthegovernorreadyInternetandabortion.Pro-lifespeechcase,unwantedpregnancycentersinformedconsentbutACLjigsactuallyexisttodo.Ireallythreethings.ThefirstthingistowadrightintothestatesForcourtpurposes.WegotACLJforthat,butforyourlegislativepurposesforyourrightintothestateswhatitenablesustoisoneofthehigherlobbyistlobbiesthatareworkingonbehalfofyouforthat.Thatwewerewritingthislegislationandnewlegislationonlifeprotectivelyaboard.WearepartofthateverhavingRTreviewittomakesuresometimeswriteittomakesureit'sthebestlegislationpossiblethatthesafetywouldtargetthoseconstitutionallimitsthatarenecessary,wewillweverymuchwillbedraftingsomeofthoseconstitutionallimitsforstatelegislatorswillalsobedoingwhat'supyou'llseewerepubliclythroughACLJactionisadcampaignscallingoutthebadpoliticianspraisingthegoodwhat'spraisingthegoodpolicyaswellcheckitoutACLJaction.orgispracticingthisbattle,youcanjoinasamember