Breaking: DOJ To Sue Texas

Breaking news today on secular apartment of justice plans to sue Texas heartbeat abortion law keeping you informed and now this is the most restrictive abortion line in the nation and the mine administration under immense pressure to do something about the general said that he be looking at all possible avenues to challenge the law. The Justice Department is now preparing to sue the state want to hear from you Sharon, call 1-800-684-3110 possible argument, the Justice Department could make that the law interferes with federal interest. I just got back from Texas into abortion provider. They say since this law went into effect abortion the state have all but stopped now. Your succulent signal. We are to your cause is to the 2064th 110 we talk to this broadcaster. The speed of the media logs in the left up in arms trying to get the talk about different ways to whether they want to codify that means pass legislation to to protect what they see is this right to abortion its covered acknowledgment to that. They realize that their argument in court is flimsy that the reasoning behind Roe versus Wade is being challenged and rethought as many scholars who are honest on both sides of this issue is said for decades that the reasoning behind that the rationale behind it was wrong and so they talk about that, but they've also been disclaiming for the department for the bided ministration to do something so the announcement was by present, but as a whole of government approach to go after this Texas law and that what we are hearing this this morning. Now is the Department of Justice is planning to file additional lawsuit against the state of Texas to stop this law that is now in effect in Texas after Planned Parenthood's initial challenges failed. We think about this for about using this whole of government approach, which is the watchword of this administration as a whole, about what to do on the Justice Department is going to file a lawsuit to try to stop Texas from enacting a law they enacted. Planned Parenthood is already challenging it, but I guess they're not not up to the stuff legally that they can do this by themselves. So the department just is making a political statement here and that is they don't like the Texas law.

Your work talk later about what goodbye ministration can be doing to the conscience clause objections, which are significant but they don't like these laws they don't like the way these things go.

So what they do.

Very easy answer to everything is will intervene now in the intervening, probably because visual or statutory right to read in the case. I suppose they do. But the reality is, why are they doing it. They're doing it because they're trying to score political points. Texas under its own legislative decree decided away, which they were going to handle the abortion is now there is a case of the sprinkler right now that could completely change the way this is being handled and we're not ready to announce yet but were a couple weeks away from announcing a major case that we are representing for the biggest boarding case in the country that were to be doing so when you look at this.

I look at it and he and I see government overreach is government overreach is government overreach of the worst kind is if Planned Parenthood doesn't have the resources to defend itself. You got to have the weight in mind of the federal government and in the form of the Department of Justice coming in and clamping down on the state of Texas because the state of Texas had the sense of the ingenuity to come up with a law they give a private cause of action to citizens to bring actions against the killers because after the divorce and is our and as we said at the top of the program. Somebody was in Texas has said that essentially all the abortions indexes of stop while in a way that's a victory and I'm glad to see it but we have to recognize that this injunction was denied by the Supreme Court recently which justice Robert Steve justice did not participate is indeed temporary and were going to have to fight it all the way through this is that there's two pieces to this law that were analyzed we come back from break. There is the wind is that man go into effect.

That is Texas heartbeat.

That's usually five week pregnancy and in the action is retirements of right of action is not a set, the state that the police criminal so all the those rules and protection going place are not what's in effect here is a civil issue and will talk about that rubric. This dancing affirmation that is out there in the media we write back on secular challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress to get in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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This is not criminal.

There will be no police involved. The state is not involved.

They're not so your.your taking out state actors is a civil civil lawsuit that it would read for the law itself. If this is a specific to just getting through the nonsense is that the media will allow on TV and is kind of. This is always with abortion.

We talked about Jester tease him about the next segment about the conscience protections which are under assault by the bite administration as we speak in the Health and Human Services, but that this law. This is specifically from the law. This this subchapter. So this part of the law may not be construed to authorize the initiation of a cause of action against the prosecution of a woman on whom abortion is performed or induced or attempted to be performed or induced in violation of the subchapter so right off right there in the law to get through this information that this is not people reporting on their neighbor who goes to get abortion because that person is not subject to any of this reporting or the law itself know this is aimed at the abortion assignment and that this is of course always be the argument that these pro-abortion groups make and you know Harry I when you study abortion law that worsened her friends for a long time and what I'm concerned about all of this is as the viability of the unborn child's life is more and more pronounced because of the medical advances and we just have to start I think being clear like we were in the 1980s and he got muddled lately were talking about a human like here so this is different than any other procedure that anybody would ever go under because there's somebody else involved in this procedure absolutely so in essence, the Biden administration is attempting to turn the world upside down so the Texas law protects human life and so how has the Biden administration interpreted the protection of human life as an attack as a form of violence and so they are going after individuals who are attempting to protect human life, something the Biden administration is clearly incapable of doing. Given what they've done already in Afghanistan, they have failed to protect human life. There and now they are attacking human life domestically and nonetheless there going after the state of Texas there going after the citizens of Texas are going after all Americans who support the protection of human life.

This makes no sense and I doubt seriously whether the Biden administration has a legal basis to launch an attack on American citizens. Secondarily, I would point out in this particular case, the Biden administration has unleashed or is preparing to unleash the FBI to do what to go out and basically attack American citizens who are protecting human life. What should the FBI be doing that you should be attempting to prevent terror attacks in the United States and the Biden administration has opened us up to future terror attacks by the its craven surrender to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

So again the world has been turned upside down the II think I right there and that is part of what the department Justice announces that they are conducting that with the FBI that they're utilizing the FBI and in week get Jack and Facebook wrote it, the DOJ wasn't meant to be political, how to get someplace I said now the FBI has been tasked with going after the pro-life movement yet again. It it going at her pull movements that and people were following the law did that the state has enacted that was not enjoyed by the Supreme Court so forcefully made a really good point being that the Department of Justice is going after the pro-life community. Again, because as I know and and he knows full well you know Chris you live it as a young kid I we represented the pro-life movement. In those days, and the federal government was going after the pro-life movement, including peaceful protests or sit, even acts of civil disobedience to the point where we had to take the Department of Justice position and they were basically arguing initially that a blocking access.

An act of civil disobedience constituted a violation of the Ku Klux Klan act. I'm not kidding.

Now there was a change in administrations and NSTAR became the solicitor Gen. John Robertson.

I argued the case before the Supreme Court and we want and the court said that opposition to abortion is not discrimination against women and that's a really important point to make, and I think what's happened here is when you when you start utilizing any of the resources of the federal Bureau of investigation to not just go after extremists. But anybody that's pro-life, including what's going on in the Texas law. This is an abuse of like the IRS when they were doing their abuse is abuse of the FBI. We call that out before. Believe me, we will be on top of the pumps we will be sending. I could tell you now, there will be if this does happen we will find out exactly what they're up to was, we will immediately file a Freedom of information act request and find out what the Department of Justice FBI is doing against peaceful call. I protest or protest. Sandy authorize her activities rather authorized under state law that is not been enjoyed by the Supreme Court right that's absolutely correct J what we've got here is the mind of the federal government now being invoked as the President said the whole of government including the federal Bureau of investigation is going to be used as an armed weaponry against citizens. I find that abhorrent. Taking the premier law enforcement agency of the United States.

As Prof. Hutcherson said we should be looking at things that like terrorism. The things that really matter in this country and using it as a weapon against its own citizenry is an abhorrent act and one that I disdain and find to be absolutely on defendant indefensible whatsoever, but using the fat of the federal Bureau of investigation against our own citizens with respect to this is something that I cannot support that I find to be absolutely detestable. This this December in Washington DC because then this is bid that the pressure we played this the break in the media. There's been this push on the Biden administration by the left of the base of their party state just do something you have to do it. Congress think that nearly floated the idea fan of trying to codify that means to legislate Roe versus Wade that we know the votes aren't there for that right now in Congress. But there is that there was this pressure in in Washington to utilize these levers of government against pro-life states in our seeing fan. The lawsuit by the Department of Justice against Texas during I really think it's a matter of pulling out all the stops, regardless of the marriage and of literally throwing everything against the wall and see what will work they're doing it through litigation and challenging the Mississippi law they're doing in challenging the Texas law and Jordan. We talked more at length about this yesterday, but they're also doing it legislatively and we talked yesterday about the efforts to to repeal the Heideman indexing want to codify the repeal of the Haida minute, which is the taxpayer subsidies of abortion. The other thing they want to do Jordan is is codify row so look I think they see that they are slipping in the courts that the arguments that they had in the defense of row really aren't holding out that their debt states like Texas are finding creative ways to get these cases her unit head that they may not like the enforcement mechanism.

That's what you would have in a post-Roe world you would have states doing lots of different things to pass restrictions on abortion. It would be outlawed. It would go back to the states end of the left doesn't like that.

So Jordan what they're doing to pacify their bases literally throwing everything against the wall of the bad news for then no door and they don't have a strong legal argument to make in court on this and ultimately at the end of the day. I think what you can see is more latitude for the states to do things like Texas is doing now. This is still Richard's former head of Planned Parenthood listened they love the fact that the Department of Justice and the and the federal government is taking up their fight because then they don't have to use their resources, they haven't been successful in in their legal challenges meticulous and they love the fact when DOJ goes after the pro-life movement. This white that's really good news came that the administration and the Department of Justice is taking action against this unconstitutional and cruel law that's got into fact is, you know I did last week. More than 7 million women of childbearing age lost their rights really literally overnight. They don't know why it's good legal challenge, but when it comes to abortion multi-but this would just search these Dominicans. You would think that after all the victories at the Supreme Court, District Court's Court of Appeals state courts on the abortive the abortion pill mandates from Obama care that that's been settled, but it's not there.

Bringing that issue back is it doesn't matter what the law is on this one issue of abortion that so-called abortion distortion doesn't matter if the federal government really has a right of action that format a plane. It doesn't really care about the law because they know this issue where if they've won the judge judge on this issue. They will come up with the reason why it's not it's not something that they don't care for statute or provision.

They just with the lawsuit filed by the US government and that's what your taxpayer dollars are going to do now is to sue Texas for law that they've already been successful so far.

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Thank you, are not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ back to secular joy never see your counselor with ACLJ Jeff certainties Jeff. We talked about the situation where the Biden administration had dropped the challenges. By this time they dropped the child is by Department of Justice and the federal government on the violation of federal concerts laws when it came to the nurse in the University of Vermont Medical Center. We talked about that horrendous story before, so they dropped the challenge that they that the trumpet ministration was bringing a directly against that the University in the hospital there and now they're taking the second step Jeff where they are looking at the abortion pill mandates yet again. I feel like people may say it was as a reply from 10 years ago five years ago with fought this battle out so many times it feels like it came to a conclusion. Jeff they're back at it again back at it again. All 10 years ago.

The Obama administration imposed the HHS mandate on employers throughout the country that Rick mandate required that these employers include free access to abortion abortifacient drugs in their healthcare plans even if the employer had religious objections to doing so, we filed after the first that the first team to file on behalf of a perfect for-profit corporation against the HHS mandate. We ended up representing authority to both business owners and corporations against that mandate in that all ended up in the hobby lobby decision which said that it was a violation of the religious Freedom restoration act for the Obama administration to force employers to pay for these abortifacient drugs in their healthcare plans. Well, that didn't stop the Obama administration is able to come up with this fake accommodation process which was really just an accounting gimmick that the Little sisters of the poor. This differently objected to and the Little sisters of the poor have been involved in cases throughout the country challenging this mandate, and last year. Last year the Supreme Court upheld the top administration rules that said that the Little sisters of the poor as well as all employers with religious or moral objections to complying with the HHS mandate are exempt they don't have to comply.

Well, that was not good enough for many states and states attorney generals then filed suit in California, Pennsylvania, Washington all over the country saying that those moral and religious exemptions violated emit administrative procedure act.

The Supreme Court said no they did not. But those lawsuits actually continue because of the concurrence that Kagan Justice Kagan wrote, saying that while the administration have the authority to grant the exemptions. Those exemptions still might be, quote unquote arbitrary and capricious in violation of the administrative procedure act. Well anyway, in one of those lawsuits that going on with the Little sisters of the poor indicate actually originally brought by Javier Becerra, then Atty. Gen. for California now. HHS Sec. The administration has announced within the next six months were going to take another look at those moral and religious exemptions and come up with some new rules doesn't take a crystal ball to know what those new rules are going to be President Biden when he was on the campaign trail last year announced what he was going to do. Should he become President of United States when he was denouncing the Supreme Court's decision in favor of the Little sisters of the poor, last summer were going to probably go back to arranging where no one gets any exemptions except houses of worship that houses of worship of always been exempt under Obama. That's of course a very small minority of employers to go back to accommodation prop.

This accommodation process.

This fake account to get the process that the Little sisters of the poor have objected to. From day one after restart the whole litigation process. Until we get once again to the United States Supreme Court very radical and this was part of their gender. They came in as Jeff just said voting is a bike when he was campaigning. Maybe didn't get as much attention in the campaign, but that we talked about how that they put in the most radical of radical people in place, including Javier Becerra was leaving HHS who are radically pro-abortion and and totally in favor of elbows like the Biden at politically by the abortion industry will Becerra's course that we took to the Supreme Court of United States when you try to basically compel pro-life pregnancy centers to post signs advertising for abortion but let me say that again I will Becerra enforce the laws. Atty. Gen. of the state of California to force pro-life pregnancy centers to ready for this post in their offices where people can get abortions is called compelled speech. You're not supposed to do, compelled speech is unconstitutional. Its course and then you would follow what Jeff just said, which I think raises a number regarding area and any others on the 90 person Eric this idea of a right of conscience is as old as the Constitution itself. Now especially the situation where you're being compelled to do something that really does violate your sincerely held religious beliefs or moral positions, and which is exactly what's happening here and we been successful as a Jepson report but these groups don't stop now and I don't stop and they're not going to stop conscience means nothing to these left-wing killers because that's what they we have to say the truth of what they are.

You have a child, which I believe begins at conception, the courts have said in Texas. The law says that heartbeat, but I believe in Thomas Aquinas's view, but nonetheless that's because I live in the 13th century.

Nonetheless, conscience means nothing.

Conscience means nothing in the Constitution to them. Conscience means nothing in the performance and the rendering of services and that is something that we have to fight against and we have always been fighting against conscience means a lot. Conscience means that you're not going to do something because of deeply held moral, spiritual and religious principles that you have and that we have to uphold those feelings of conscience that somebody has who has religious beliefs that are contrary to what the left is espoused and in general carry out your blog is up and ACLJ. Our debt, not just really quick for Harry.

Harry looking apart from an academic standpoint, the right of conscience and the load is quite ready conscience is been recognized by courts for decades absolutely and it's been recognized throughout human history. However, we now live in an era which basically is driven by the preferences of elites and elites are grounded in one thing and basically one thing only moral superiority that is their view of your own conscience takes precedence and so they don't believe for instance that a woman should be deprived of the right to an abortion. So basically they are rolling out of bounds. All conscience objections whether there grounded in moral, spiritual or religious views as Andy so eloquently points out, even coming from the 13th century. So I think at the end of the day what we have to confront is this whole notion of moral superiority that is a guiding principle of the Biden administration and that is a guiding principle of the mainstream media and most social media enterprises. I felt sick about Jeff, thanks for joining us.

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If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ keeping you informed anything. Now this is Jordan's secular back to the broadcast is reset state for Bryce. We got this log, Texas little discussion about the law that white was a source discussion because it was I think a surprise to the left that as they made their way through the challenges abortion industry brought against the law that ultimately they would be able to get an injunction against the law stop the law for being able go to force before even getting into the merits of it just to say of this law violates the rights of been upheld by the court, but the Supreme Court didn't do that. The Supreme Court decided not to enjoy this law and they decided that Planned Parenthood sued was the wrong person which is a judge try to got to the judge in the case to to bring the force the injunction's reports of that is not the right party so that they've had this issue with with this law that they said was so horrible and so bad I can't figure out who to sit because in practice it's not doing what they're telling you it's doing on television. I think yes you know abortion is more regulated by its more restricted by the courts never said you can't have any restrictions on abortion. Courts ever said you could have any regulation and debt on this specific issue where the novel approach the text is taken is enforcement is not by the state C. Quezada criminal law is not a it's not a police action is not state action is a civil action against the abortion providers never against its prohibited against the person who got the abortion procedure or is even thinking about getting the abortion procedure so the women are not going to be held liable for anything here it's it is the abortions themselves were people tend to forget in the abortion debate is that when you're dealing with abortion you're dealing with the one unique medical procedure that actually takes another person's life.

As a consequence of the action and when you think about that and then you think about any of the restrictions that allow the states of now adopted, you realize that you can't compare this to anything else because it is a another person we call it personhood under the Constitution, and we believe that the unborn child is a person entitled to life, exactly what is set forth in in our documenting document and the idea that you could just terminate that life for no cause at all, which is what you why.

Trust me, that's what they want they want unrestricted rights to abortion at any time, including partial-birth abortion, or the child actually delivered partially delivered. We litigated those I have I have deposed those doctors. This is your talking about a fundamental evil here and that's what this is is a fundamental evil and sin evil known as infanticide. In many cases, but I believe it's murder and we have to call it when we see it if were going to be principled people and have consciences and were going to espouse the doctrines that we believe in and that we hold true, we must admit that it is murder.

And when you go when you take the FBI and the resources of the FBI and you directed against a person's conscience against what they honestly and mildly believed to be true that as a reprehensible misuse of the power of the central government and that is with the Biden administration is doing right now they're trying as he says a whole of government approach.

In other words, Biden is going to use every resource of the federal government from the Federal Bureau of investigation to the Department of Justice to the Department of Health and Human Services that every agency of the federal government to see that the agenda that he has espoused and put forth is put through.

I think Texas has enacted a very ingenious law giving a private cause of action. And now there they're scrambling to find out how in the world with an account of this because Jordan said is not state action is not police action is private action Heidi to get around that. Folks, we come back I will talk about particular questions or comments. 164 3110 going on the 2000 684-3110 heater comments and Facebook, YouTube, Rumba periscope Instagram every watching the broadcast because I was a fundamental thesis change here technology, science on our side is not on the side of the abortion industry anymore and that's why they they are having more more difficult time. Every time you bring a challenge, but that doesn't mean that that could be aggressive and they have political allies and with an office power will be right back secular challenges facing Americans or substantial time in our value freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades now ACLJ is going on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

But here's the bottom line we could not do her work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms then remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side, you're already a member thinking you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing become a member today ACLJ only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally support the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question for you, mission life today online ACLJ/secular get into this a good question about the legal side of the department of justice getting volunteer with the West with great West of the conversation as well rested for a long time. Throughout that this movement I see they grew up around it that the the pro-life movement was was based off there was a lot of faith aspect to it still is this idea of when life begins in the life beginning at conception and in the fighting back and also the confident talking about the issue, addressing the issue that that's that's changed.

But now, technology and science on the side. The in the pro-life tree new always that this would start catching up and make it tougher and tougher for the abortionists to make their arguments at this is just a cell and this is just it's it's like a tumor being removed right and they can get away with that didn't try to make those arguments anymore so it's a weave check.

So in this progress to where you have the faith and moral aspect, but the nuance of that the scientific aspect where we can this unit see the heart hear the heartbeat see the child development that this is not just your human tissue material. This is a human being and we now know know that that like we always believe life begins at conception, but we have the laws about heartbeat. You also have the fact that that infants in the wind can feel pain. These kinds of things confide combined with infants who are born very very early are viable to actually survive and can live a normal life. Although the science is pointed these kinds of things.

I think the abortion issue along with what's going on with national security and terrorism are the two defining issues of our time presently in America and I don't think there any issues that are more consequential than these two issues here and let me say Jordan is a Christian and as a member of the clergy.

This is a moral issue in a deeply religious issue for me and millions of Americans and what I see going on here is the federal government is aggressively and arrogantly minimizing the moral issue and the religious issue for millions of people along with the fact, as you said, science is on the side that life really really does begin at conception tomorrow. On the brighter side. I did and want to get all those aspects I would let people know as well. I record as to be inferior for the full hour with us and again, and we've also got today launching right after this broadcast on our social media accounts at heroes of 9/11 video for social media really get that through tomorrow with with Rick because he was at the United Nations in New York at the time of the attacks having served at the beginning of the war on terror through the Bush administration and civil let the opportunity to be in studio with Rick R's are Senior advisor for national security and foreign policy that one of the big questions we we've got a few times of social medias. How can the federal government and the Department of Justice to the state of Texas. Now there are ways that they can think if they believe that there protecting such a constitutional right that that the question here is this is not at there's no law there is no legislation. It's never been codified. It is an idea that is completely judicially created yet. So what they're going to do though. I mean, is there to say that the Texas law itself is constitutionally suspect and then the Department of Justice is going to I guess try to intervene in the case or perhaps make some kind of other challenge on understanding is an interesting issue to me. Amanda and look at the standing issue. What is the base upon which the Department of Justice enters into a state law issue like this, other than as an amicus I mean you'll see them as an amicus in cases like this, but it's rare that but I guess this is a deprivation. I bet this is what they do. This will be a stretch but that's probably what I'll do because now the people running the civil rights division would do this they will arguments can interfere with dignity think I'm I'm making this up and I'm not there in the Sandy. This interferes with the right to the interstate travel, and that's that's how they that's how they view things and try to come in through that white while Jay that's an ingenious argument, and that's the argument here that was used in years and years and decades ago to allow the federal government to inject itself into the private affairs of states. I remember the case in law school, involving Ollie's barbecue, which was centered in one particular state, but they said it impacted interstate commerce, because as much barbecue for pigs as always bought from other states cause people to travel in interstate commerce, and therefore interstate commerce was affected in interstate commerce having been affected gave Congress the right to legislate and therefore the Supreme Court said it was constitutional.

So there's always a way to cook it yourself and if you can possibly get in by using some sort of mechanism that is made up just like that interstate commerce was very effective, very ingenious, but one of the things that you brought up that I think is really important is what is the standing of the Department of Justice and the federal government to intervene in this lawsuit that is really governed by rule 24 the written federal rule of civil procedure is that it isn't mandatory know they don't have an interest in the outcome that affects United States is a permissive, I don't know whether it is or not.

But those are the kinds of issues that are going to have to be hashed out in the days to come. If they persist in trying to get in this case and interfere with what Texas has done yet but Harry, I wonder. I can't think of what would be the basis other than something like interstate commerce where the federal government would have standing to compensate this I guess is it interferes with the federal constitutional right. We can litigate it well certainly that's what I thought they might a large and so the real question is what is the specific federal interest in abortion. In my view, however, there is a distinction between the constitutional right. Let's say a citizen in taxes, and the so-called federal interest, so are we really saying that the federal government has an interest in expanding the number of abortions that Take Pl. in Texas or in the United States. I think that's an absurd argument, but I would not put it past this particular Department of Justice under the leadership of Bob Pres. Biden. I think at the end of the day what we are seeing is an upper floor, which is led by a number of unprincipled individuals, including individuals within the Biden administration and essentially this uproar indicates that modern elites are particularly within the mainstream media and within social media companies have accepted Frederick Nietzsche's claim that it is all about the will to power and so more and more of our debates do not involve any appeal to truth or principal, and so I think at the end of the day rather than vindicating Immanuel Kant's view that over time human savagery would decline. I think at the end of the day what we are seeing is that the pursuit of limitless power, particularly by the federal government elevates evil over good and verifies that barbarism is indeed a pathological development of modern civilization that they say this goes right to the heart of this issue. Every week we outnumber talking to all of you on this broadcast that the majority of you. I shared the same pro-life position we do and you want to see his laws be advanced you want to see the of the continued protections utilizing the technology utilizing science of the medical community which which is there with us, but ultimately here we also have to deal with heavy political lift fan. There is still at it is as partisan as any issue in Washington DC.

You literally have a party political party who believes it. This is human life were protecting and another party who who denies that that life is a worthy of protection during think about how extreme the pro-abortion side in DC has become their no longer just after abortion be legal. You must pay for that abortion are no longer just after that insurance coverage cover abortion, but religious entities must cover their no longer over just for a woman's right to seek abortion every medical professional must be forced to participate in that abortion.

This is about forced participation in something that is morally objectionable to tens and hundreds of millions of Americans. Jordan I actually known during the last break I actually think this would be important to point out I just got a notification that Jim Lange event, a congressman from Rhode Island. 11 terms been in the Congress for more than 20 years, always campaigned as a pro-lifer Jordan. He has announced that he is now coming out in favor of codifying row so that is how extreme the pro-abortion industry in Washington DC had a DC has become even a 22 year veteran of the House of Representatives that is always told his constituents.

He's pro-life Jordan. He is now campaigning for reelection on an issue of codifying row the ridiculousness of saying that every time it's for Qu�bec to break it. I'm personally pro-life but I don't think that that should be imposed. If you can't believe that is if you believe you really truly believe that the human life. You can't be okay with the light that life being killed can't be okay with no conscious protection that life doesn't work that's been a political argument, and you see when their feeder to the fire. Talk talk talk, but when it comes to actual legislation. They will quickly fold this industry.

There'sanymore I think it's fair to say that in the Democratic Party of 2021. Thisanymore for her like pro-life view, not a real one, not one that actually would be backed up by legislation or actions may allow some to talking is that language I just did, but it's absurd.

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Thank you. If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us. ACLJ.org where you can learn more about her life changing work, become a member today ACLJ talking about is Abydos congressman again, not a name. It is here a lot in the media, but he's been there. I is status of your 20+ years I congressman Langevin of Rhode Island as second congressional district whose taken that position. This is what he writes. And this is why said this is no longer acceptable anymore on either side of the issue in my opinion can't honestly believe this silly city rights quote although I remain personally opposed to abortion as a matter of public policy. My position has evolved. Now he wants to codify the protection by the court is using the Texas lot example. So even people who had 20 year long positions on this fold and but they fold with this this art unite they have to live their own conscience on this Texas conscious protection.

This idea that he could believe this personally opposed to abortion as a matter of public policy but as a public policy maker.

He wants to he wants to codify the right to abortion. Even though he's opposed to it so you can have that position.

That's up that's pro-abortion, so never except from a politician that they personally oppose it, but they don't want to legislate do a thing about it. This is not an issue that you can honestly believe that you can't honestly believe and be opposed to murder but did say but I don't think we should legislate protections on that murder were saying during the break. This is like saying you know I am personally against murder, but I don't want to impose my belief on someone who most go out and kill someone you know you mentioned this congressman who switches vision position.

He says he swished it is a matter he doesn't think that abortion should be a matter of public policy. You know at all, but it is a matter for him of political expediency in the same goes for the President.

He was it was for the how to limit now is against it on virtually every political, social and moral issue of Joe Biden's career.

He seems to have switched, and it makes you asked the question, does he have lasting uncompromising moral convictions. Is he a principled person and it seems that the answer is no. But in this case.

This is a matter of life and death. The sad commentary on politicians in America who claim to have evolved so that it's okay to take a human life or the phones at one 800 684 31 to the top was Kathy in Illinois online. One hey Kathy, I hope that you are right about the money issue to but you know in your new know this. The problem is that this Congress is not going to do that we can hardly get Republican Congress of they could address that more specifically to get Republican Congress is the really do that. Unfortunately yet, the color matches Planned Parenthood. They continue to get more than $600 million in taxpayer funding.

Every year there's a couple different layers to this J the first one you mentioned Republicans did come up a vote short of defunding Planned Parenthood the last time around.

So both parties have to be pushed on that issue. But again, I would circle back to the conversation and Jordan and I had just a little bit earlier.

It's why he did sign that letter in defense of the of the Hyde amendment to put at least block direct funding of abortions in the United States. JI. I think that's a hurdle that's a threshold we can get over with this Congress. I want to say this, though I graduated something you said I think we got_and we had a really make this point and that is were talking about the taking of human life. Okay were not talking about anything else here other than the life of the child that is being disregarded in Planned Parenthood's view. In Planned Parenthood's worldview and the unborn child.

By the way when they talk about the fetus and you know languages. This means unborn child with a complete disregard for they do, they have no regard for whatsoever. Life means nothing.

Life is just a passing fancy like a sparrow then came into the window.

In the Middle Ages out of the dark into the lighted room and then went out into the dark again, we don't know where we came from where here for a brief time we don't know where were going, and that's the idea.

This is just transient is just a blob of flash.

It's a fetus and so it's a tumor. As I've heard it said so you can remove it. You can take it out.

You can swells and you can do away with it and this is to use some of the analogies that my colleague Prof. Hodges and used this takes human human beings and makes them into barbarians and confirms when we yield that this kind of thought of Planned Parenthood. What Jonathan Swift called human beings, the most pernicious race of odious little vermin that God ever suffered the crawl up on the surface of the earth. Is that what we want to be. That's what we degenerate into when we don't recognize the sanctity of life and we are we've looked at this here for the policy level II is any touches on account of how we view ourselves and and the fact is that we have the most extreme laws of this the world and that the rest of the world your approach. I see 05, far exceeding where we are liberally if you then allow this to these kind of that procedure to be there.

There's abortion is legal in most of Europe, but with heavy restrictions is not an industry quite like it is here. Absolutely, you are absolutely correct. And so if you look at Europe and if you look at Canada. Those two areas of the world are far more secular than the United States. And yet, in many respects. There are far more pro-life than the United States.

They also tend to respect conscience objections. So what we have going on in the United States is a curious move by the left. The left has always emphasized tolerance in clerk inclusion and diversity. But now, with respect to this barbarous procedure of abortion.

They are trying to enforce conformity.

They are trying to enforce uniformity. They are not allowing any deviation, and so if you go back to the University of Vermont case.

That case basically would protected lease of the conscious conscience objections of a particular nurse but the Biden administration doesn't believe in tolerance. They believe in one thing only. They believe in power within this West with regard to justice, the moral aspect of it that this argument if I wanted let you, this art this this idea that you could say why I totally oppose this. I don't support these moves, but we we are we. I don't think we want to be morally if the outline the world on this issue. When the rest the world is caught up to to some technology set 100% there, but we are footwear far behind that that the rest of the modern world is like and was commenting that the left and those who are pro-abortion have always wanted to note this the holy grail of science is think about it is that holy grail of science is leading more and more to the pro-life argument. This truly is a matter of life and death, and there are no guarantees. How this is going come out that I have thought this morning. Thank God, at least for now, for the makeup of the US Supreme Court. Yes, if these are to be significant challenges. Anyway, she got the abortion industry data if the weight of the Department of Justice coming. If the states and we know that other states will look to texts, they will look to the Lyda Mississippi that is being a child 15 week abortion man at the Supreme Court.

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