BREAKING: U.S. Casualties Confirmed in Kabul Suicide Attacks

Breaking news today on secular US casualties are confirmed in the Kabul suicide attacks in human form. Then again, now this is at least three Americans. What wagon troops were entered in this suicide bombing attack want to hear from you Sharon, call one 800 683110. A firefight also broke out.

This was a complex attack.

I'm told from senior US officials. Now, your host Jordan circulating secular was breaking use of, as you do last night you may have seen a break was alert for the road that the US State Department put up a warning for Americans to leave any of the gates at the airport in Kabul that there was active a terror threat that you likely woke up to the news that you heard about their bid to explosions to bomb attacks.

It looks like at least one was a suicide attack at a nearby hotel used by Westerners who were on the ground and then of course one at the Abbey gate this that was at least planted in a car whether not it was a suicide attack. Still, that information is still a big develop at what we do know is at least 13 people have been killed and three Americans are among casualties.

So we haven't been clear yet whether they have just it appears that they've just been injured. Weather's been American loss of life. Those are US personnel there could be other Americans included that 13 number and of course I would just give you a warning now on the ground that ISIS is got hundreds of fighters in the area and to expand similar attacks is also the reports are that American civilians of also been wounded to get to these Marines. Let's go to Rick Grenell was our senior adviser on global affairs international affairs course, former director of national intelligence, investor, Germany. Rick obviously a sobering evening and morning as we watch this unfold. Last night I went your sense right now.

Obviously, this is things on the ground are changing and it's it's not looking very good devastation. We we would come to this. I think that we have to be very clear that this is not an intelligence right and we reiterate that people listening should be very proud of their US government warning since May or June intelligence officials, the Pentagon officials, State Department officials in warning for a long time. This is a political failure. Jake, this is the politicians were not able to hear what the warnings were and didn't react in time and so that's a real that's a real problem unless I was in and asked you this, when you actually get into this in the next segment but then there's also militarily I mean are some choices that the present will get into the details of that next segment but presence Make some decisions like now you absolutely in this administration, and Pres. Biden tend to be very risk-averse, but with the stranded Americans now told you came in, near the airport seems that the August 31 day to withdraw as absolutely obsolete and unrealistic. Basically, the bottom line is for now. This war is not over yet and hopefully the administration will accept that energy adjusts the mission. Accordingly, I think what it's got to be clear here to suggest it just to reiterate for everybody that we have not heard if this is going to necessarily change the August 31 deadline that we did hear from John Kirby that this has this has delayed the value of evacuation, including the military military backup so whether or not that was kind of it indication that could go past the 31st.

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The broadcast I let me just at the stage of you just joining us. So as we talked about time at all week. The idea that this could break down that you would have breakdowns attacks gunfights potential terror attacks of Bobby's that is now occurred.

Unfortunately, in Kabul right at the airport outside of delegates can't abrogate where there has been at least 13 people killed. We know that there's Americans mixed in these numbers.

We know that there's three US military personnel that are considered casualties. That doesn't mean that they that could just be injuries to be serious injuries but that we've not got clarification on loss of life of a specific number of Americans and who if whether not they were civilian whether not they were military and of course now the question was a horrible, horrible reports about Fox news reporter holding a five-year-old boy, as is the young boy died from this attack on this is very typical license here that that's always getting into. This is no this is not a Taliban move. I don't think at this point that the Taliban said they they denounce these moves. This is this is also as much attack on the US was also attack on the Taliban's legitimacy. We just set it there putting the question. See, they looked out tough with these airport barriers, but they were unable to protect yes so Mike and Megan wouldn't get records and go doing this because it one of things interesting here this this horrible sequence of events that started last night and when United States had warning of yesterday evening to play that bite from the secretary stated moment, but the fact is that this is not if you miss not go to the Delvin script, Peter. I don't think that maybe another may be more to it than that but you're the former director of national intelligence. I trust your judgment on this what it what you think about things that we do know Alabama has an agreement with Al Qaeda and with Isis to allow them safe haven in Afghanistan as long as they didn't try to enter their with what was happening in Afghanistan when it came to outside of Afghanistan.

The agreement wise that Al Qaeda and Isis get to do what they want in the Taliban and whatnot dictate what they do outside of Afghanistan. Again, the Taliban wanted to control Afghanistan, Al Qaeda and Isis got safe haven, but they couldn't get involved in what was going on so wanted to think this happened. I did that agreement is broken down with this attack or Taliban signed off on an attack and either way I think this spells disaster for the country to spiral out of control. We will wait to see if this means more terrorist on terrorist and pastoral not passion violence within Afghanistan spiraling into a civil war again.

I was asked was torn about the military asthma because it went with Rick is right amended that the goal is to get a would obviously to get every American out of there and then to get your allies out of there. To me, that would be the ideal situation, but you really situate you got it you got a crisis. Now that's not holding out as script right now. They were talking about convey what they were developing contingency plans the last couple of days. What is the student that I think our people need to understand what kind of the thought processes here now and when I said little bit ago.

The war is not over yet.

I don't mean the larger Afghan war. I think the decision is wise to just to stop the 20 year war and to bring our troops home, but at this point, the hostilities are not over to get our people out and there've been a lot of mistakes made completing up to this and we talked about that on the radio closing ballroom not getting civilians out first. Not either bringing the military equipment back or destroying a lot of mistakes but at this point military strained that when the situation changes on the ground you adjust your just that the orders the operation in order to respond to changing events on the ground. That's what should be happening now because what we don't have to do this. We can allow the Caliban to hold us to the August 31 date if our mission of getting out of Afghanistan is not complete, they cannot call the shots on that so we have to to finish the mission which probably is going to mean expanding their perimeter and never to protect US citizens and to finish the mission of withdrawing in an orderly way. Okay, so my concern with all of this is that is not done by August 31 and the President elects to skilled get people out of a can.

I could stop to who knows what can happen the next 2448 hrs. We got we could really be on the verge of a Crites hostage crisis last time that most of the a lot of listeners to the broadcast and probably been barely remember that Iranian hostage crisis, but it made dominated the media. It was horrible for America and are standing in the world and that's what I'm afraid we could be on the threshold of right now it does.

It feels like where the threshold of either a new conflict or extended conflict or that I think it's more likely still, at this point, I would be proven wrong happily by this, but that the bind he was going to come out today still kind of stick with their similar messaging of this kind of what we expected.

We warned you about this. We told this can happen so this was this not a surprise to us. It was unfortunate what that's why were moving out August 31 yes and that's I feel like they're still going to stick to. As long as they can instead of increasing troops which my love is that we have for over 5003 get there right know that airport so Rick, when you get actionable intelligence and you you posted. That is, director of national intelligence amine in an situation like this. What's the process like I'm actually disclosing the camp at what goes on inside your department what goes inside the White House and I know it from my side as the lawyer reviewing the present needed counsel, but cannot God bring that situation might seen it in their it's that's the truth of the matter is that you got actionable intelligence, but it's changing and it's hard to verify it with me.

I know there's a lot of sources.

What happens here will let boil this down actionable intelligence means new information and it means you must adjust any business, business information that you know, not unlike what our listeners get when something new comes into the situation you take that information and you adjust let's remember that doll from wanted to bring our troops home from Afghanistan a long time that when he first came into office, but it didn't happen because he Had to adjust because of the information coming because of real-time information, information on the ground. That's where I'm concerned now with this new information coming in the Biden team is not adjusting yet they need to be able to take the reality of the of the situation, not the white paper that Jake Sullivan has written right and stick the script. He's very academic, is one dimensional. He's not understanding that there are a whole bunch of other dimensions that fly in the face of what he planned on his white paper and you got me thinking. Nine dimensional year moves like nine dimensional chess in the situation. Let's this would serve her state said yesterday, which means the actionable of the intelligence that this was a problem came in. Yes, it was unfolding last night is that we been working on humanitarian side of this offer, trying to get some children on us with this LJ's been doing, but let let's go ahead and play this a sound from Treblinka proffering a hostile environment in a city and country now controlled by the Taliban with the very real possibility of an ice skate attack were taking every precaution, but this is very high risk from his limited. They knew it was callous because we are saving Washington DC because that one thing we know is it Washington. These members of Congress not to tell names of people with a big rate of it immediately responsive to us when we have said information over there do what they can. They been overwhelmed. They are overwhelmed with with with information on individuals who have already been approved. They have the right approvals of their Afghans if their Americans and that what I'm hearing on Capitol Hill. I want to hear your here is just that the logjam there and I will say that they are not.

They don't feel like they are getting a lot of coordination from the White House and the State Department during their completely overwhelming here in the exact same thing. We know one of these situations is one of were directly involved in your dad mentioned that a minute ago but I will just tell you in conversation after conversation with Capitol Hill this morning about that situation.

I'm hearing them say the same thing. We got a long list of people that we are aware of and are on approve a list to get out they can't get inside that airport during some of them know were at the gate shortly before even during when the witness attack happened to look this is just one of the realities that happens in a situation like this when you do have to adjust to a situation like Wes and Rick were talking about in those gates have to seal up to her and it creates a line of demarcation. There are people on the inside who hopefully we will be able to get out and get to safety, but look whether it's today or August 31, or somewhere beyond when United States is gone, Jordan.

The people who are in the other side of that line there left to the mercy of the talent and these these offices on Capitol Hill.

I'm telling you they're dealing with that line of demarcation. Literally everything else that we just got the breaking developer there specifically is at the State Department. The reporting is the State Department is now urgently telling congressional staff to stop directing people to the airport I we can confirm. I just with the situation were dealing with that. That is the case that people are are now kind of thinking for phase 2 of have it if you weren't already through those certain barriers that that they're not trying to get those lines were there looking at the next options for this so we can confirm that that's dedicated daily workings. They live during the breaks here for those that are watching our social media applications. If you listening on radio horse. You have a brief commercial not met by coming up there, but you're with us on social media. Let me encourage you to stay with us also encourage you to share this with your friends and a lot of people watching right now and listening force of millions listening around the country. Look, let's pray for the people of Afghanistan was preferred troops. I believe the power prayer. I know mostly was his broadcast to and pray for this minute we got young kids were trying to help uncle once helped we were trying everything we can doing ratchet. This will be right back secular Stateline with the online only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn Gold edition like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ Jesus were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the abortion industry and what Obama care means to discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right question for incoming mission in life today online ACLJ/the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those who are persecuted for their faith.

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You forgive today online ACLJ to secular get latest report is you gotta get hundreds of Isis K also Isis fighters in the vicinity of the airport.

They believe that attacks are likely to continue as were broadcasting right now there's a been there, been to attacks back to back very civil time over journalist yes equipment accordingly mostly airport and then of course they had were at the airport gate, so we haven't seen additional tax.

Yet, when I was and that is a reporting is better that they are there. The telemedicine said that to and they don't feel like they can prevent the attacks 5200 troops are US troops are still on the ground in and around the airport and probably inside the perimeter of the airport was was that look like, what can they actually do while they are there to provide some security within the airport itself and to help you coordinate the evacuation of civilians if we were to try and expand the perimeter just to finish this mission. I don't know that we could do with 5200 troops depending on what kind of troops are there. I know we have some Marines doing security work, what have you. I don't know this is a situation though is the chaos and the consequences of a poorly planned withdrawal and is now at a critical point and I think Rick is right. He alluded to the fact that business at as usual at the Pentagon and the State Department is over. It is not business as usual anymore. We've got to adjust.

So Rick, you were trained during the break that when you that the State Department, allowing them to be close while we still had MB embassy personnel there why they were not taken out toboggan for normal channels is mind blowing. Just my will not. Let's remember that when Donald Trump handed over the White House to Joe Biden on January 20. Afghanistan was stable and we had a functioning US Embassy in Kabul.

We had 2500 American troops and 5000 NATO troops. Today we have 5200 Americans were why did we have to bring somebody troops back in after we closed Bob on July 1 because we didn't get the embassy staff out and other Americans. We took out the military but we were able to evacuate Americans. Why are we there today. Why are US Marines patrolling at the airport today because we still have Americans there. We made I just ate a tragic mistake we To this July 1 Barbara shut down before we got all of the Americans that we should have adjusted that and this is the point, why did the Secretary of State sitting cabinet meeting and allow Bob to be shut down and US troops to be removed when we still had a functioning embassy local staff Americans foreign service officers still that it's outrageous to your phone call Rosa Virginia on line to view touches their 164 3110 Iris came on thinking that's all that you do on the question could logically think anything nowhere near the wealth of knowledge militarily, strategically, that Wes or even my husband with a former Marine who served in Iraq administration negotiating the terrorist distanced. I don't understand it. I can't wrap my mind around it just seems a very lightweight case, a restaurant Case restaurant is not love you.it's it's located Afghanistan's is been called the graveyard of kingdoms for reason and that is it's been a troubled zone for thousands of years and Russians learned that the United States is learned bad and the Chinese are not trying to make hay out of it by getting involved there but it's not really a question of negotiating with terrorists. In one sense in the in the typical sense we see negotiations on porch and I pray this does not happen. Rick is if we leave Americans behind Joe Bynes is August 31 is that we can get amount that's it. You would think that the negotiations going on right now would be you use a towel band have gotta give us a passage access to get these Americans and these people that work with Americans out of their that's what you would think would be happening. I hope that's the case. While we hope that's the case, let me answer the callers?

Want to try to be very transparent.

The Trump administration also spoke to the problem is not peeking to the Taliban. The problem is what does the Taliban here and how do they adjust at that point let's remember that engagement with art with our enemies is a good thing. If you have a strong negotiator when Donald Trump negotiated with the North Korean dictator. He did so when everybody said don't talk to him freeze them out. I think we can try freezing out. We can try sanctions.

But when that doesn't work, we have to engage and they need to hear a very tough message a credible threat of military action, not just a threat of military action what the Taliban heard from Trump was a very credible threat that they would be bombed if they made a move. What the Taliban heard from Joe Biden was something very different.

Because they marched through, they took over city by they took over the whole country and they didn't face consequences that that's the fundamental difference that is so true Rick because your prisoner. Trump's plan was condition based this whole withdrawal was in there were certain expectations of the Taliban and if they cross that line. They had to pay consequences and even now in the last few months as a tele-man swept through the country and they're going to overthrow the government in Kabul and yet that was one of the conditions, the present trip that you cannot do that. And yet we let them do that with impunity we did not do to my knowledge have one airstrike against the Taliban forces as a threat to the country. Not one reminisces this is the reality of what were dealing with the payment cost was drawn so Rick I with the last couple minutes in the first half hour just did you think the decision point for the Biden restriction is right, how are try to play this out for listeners or viewers is either stick with August 31 ignore this he had a move along or or then sit in more troops and potentially continue this conflict of is that the two options available as well. It's been really glad that we have really bad options to grant to torchlight that are terrible because of what they have done so whatever answer is going to be a really bad answer compared to what we could have had before. I think that the goal right now, the focus needs to be bringing Americans home.

Do whatever you have to do to get the Americans home.

If I were the President United States. If I were advising the President of the United States.

I would say to the Secretary of Defense, go get the Americans do whatever you have to do I care what you have to do right. You bring them home and so don't be tied down to you know not utilizing analysis, or too much or some sort of you know rules with in Afghanistan last upon you by the Taliban and or the government of Afghanistan get our people home and then let's get out.

We gotta get our people home not leave an American, but we cannot leave Americans behind.

I don't like leaving these Afghan translators at work with us behind either. I think were setting them up for a fiasco and Rick were dealing only a minute here were dealing with ISIS and we know we have seen it with our own eyes how brutal ISIS could be on Americans I'm talking about horrible things like beheading photo not saying that this is what they do and that's what I'm concerned about here. We've got to figure this out one thing it's not a popular opinion but it's really important. The State Department has very good roles about if you worked with us. If you are translator you the Americans you have to meet the rules.

I want to stick to the rules and one of the roles that you network with us for a year yet to demonstrate just because you work with us in Afghanistan does not mean that your work really well with us in America.

I want rules to be followed.

We have to be very strict.

Our heart rings will be pulled at the rules need to be followed another's reason for the rules for home second half hour, not to your phone calls you, it's 100-684-3110 is really hundred 63, 110 and it is always to be this great analysis for supply power grid for now is your support for the ACLJ we were meant to transfer this month course in ACLJ network. The American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the one who knew protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family.

Give a gift today online ACLJ keeping you informed and now is Jordan secular. This recent stage. We don't read US reads were wounded at least three sets be reported in the Kabul, one of the Kabul explosions like that out of the wood by the gate. One of the gates the airport.

The Abbey gave that was called on. There was a second explosion at a hotel frequented by Westerners, reporters, US and our allies in the military so that some to attacks.

The at least one was definitely a suicide bombing attack so they were driving it with Bob the other may have been a car bomb without somebody that they don't know this is not to be clear is that the Taliban this is ISIS K the ISIS group that's in Afghanistan, they've only been operating there for about six years. They are try to seize on this, of course, chaos at now one location because we don't have multiple locations at one location where US troops are in US allies are an African people are American citizens are and the reports are to expect this type of attack to continue in Kabul that is the headline right now.

We haven't seen anything out yet there's been those two attacks 13 at least 13 people have been killed. That includes children could include Americans that were still try to get the been wounded.

We know the three Marines and wounded. We don't their reports all over the place on this, the Taliban and said their 13 lease 13 people of God.

In this explosion that horrible story about the Fox news reporter was holding a five-year-old boy who literally died in his arm. I'll I'll tell you this and I want to defend been on this person that is. I know that we got a lot of allies in Congress that would mean working with a blast, especially last 48 hours to late last night.

Folks we were texting back and forth and communicating journalism communicating with members of Congress, as was standing and because were trying to help some families, kids get out of Afghanistan standing up sponsors but Congress is also been told to not encourage people to go to the airport right now, which means loss of control of the area right outside Yemen areas. The most dangerous area right now so were in a situation where, even those who are trying to help can't be sent to the gates for evacuation.

Right now there on the outside waiting for another opportunity in NJ you talked earlier in the broadcast about how it's probably get a move to unconventional evacuations Jim Banks carcinogen, banks talked about that earlier today. He talked about how there might eventually be a need to take another airport whether it's Bagram or somewhere else to further US evacuations.

All those are hypotheticals, but JI just harken back to the conversation you and Jordan had at the end of the last segment. What I have heard the most this morning from Capitol Hill Republicans and Democrats alike is a plea to Pres. Joe Biden to say luck mate. Maybe the Taliban is in control of Afghanistan. But you must send a message to the Taliban and that we are coming for the American come hell or high water were coming for the Americans and you have two choices. You can cooperate with us or we will come for the Americans over your objection. Status of the two on the course. The problem with those I don't disagree thin at all. But the problem was really quickly here is really a 5200 troops are even expanding the perimeter around the airport is a real challenge. It is and I don't know that we can do it with the trees we have there, which means we probably need to send more troops to to most of which is President George is not captive as it seems very unlikely that he would do that Sunday that though that would be.

They had a surprise for everyone and a welcome surprise baby at this point to fight back, to show that we are still United States a reduction with ISIS fighters be the ones who prevented these people from being able to leave the airport and of course this increases the risk to US troops with the State Department's new messages don't direct people to the airport and horse revisited question for the pipe tape. This would give the amount of time. If the civilian evacuations stop this because of the days pack up again. Yeah, I know that many of looking at absent home is not actually the amount that may be the sign of the wood you December and talk about during a break that's in the airport anymore.

Clearly process the remaining people that were Artie through these checkpoints and then they got 334 days down and I'm sure that stress.

I can imagine is not what is they live during our breaks for our social media of the worst, a radio officer taking a quick commercial break will be back in just a moment more from your ACLJ team and just literally a moment of counsel for me to share with the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom.

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As you are its unknown personnel, but really I don't open it had to.

There were two separate attacks of two different places and locations I and one was close enough were US troops that was the where the that that the outside the airport gate secular admitted at this hotel but that I get. It looks like then if this if you put all this together any attacks in the State Department follow-up statement which I mean it makes 6 to 7 exits with looking at this timeline through were all of you have through this. August 31 prison Teresa 26 so if you have that deadline and you're now telling people the State Department is telling people, especially his congressional offices that we talked about working with try to help assisting people or try to get to this airport without all the right paperwork and and and what he always plays the State Department is now saying do not direct people to the airport not don't direct people to that gate that had the attack but do not direct people to the airport. What is that they do if if it takes 3 to 4 days to basically pack up our current US troops on the ground and you're no longer doing evacuations pretty soon because there was good to be at the airport then you're on the August 31 track still so I think that's that's something where we have to keep in mind because you see these at events and you think okay this is gotta throw off everything. Not necessarily right so I go to Harry Hutchinson our Dir. policy because it's the policy by demonstration was obviously August 31 were out they haven't modified that yet. Obviously, circumstances have changed drastically in the last 12 hours, but is when you got a policy that says do this, but it's not feasible. Normally would say to be adjusting your policy when he things happening here. Well, I think a number of things are happening and I would just ask Wesley's comments. First, we need the will to evacuate Americans number two. We need to be willing to take risks, but all of this requires something that is sadly missing within the Biden administration. It's called spine and so I think unless the Biden administration recovers its spa, then a little larger number. Well, that means that they are prepared to do whatever it takes to rescue Americans. They are willing to take on the Taliban they are willing to take on Al Qaeda.

They are willing to take on any opposition anywhere. It can be found, but that requires guts and I think that is what is missing with respect to the Biden administration. Keep in mind the Biden administration miscalculated massively unlivable and yet what's going on internally within the Biden administration. They are essentially celebrating Jake Sullivan has suggested that this evacuation is a massive success. Well, if it's with a success. I hope I never see failure to be fair, he said that before the absolutely brought the tragedies were foreseeable, totally absent. On the right foreseeable predictable the white out knew it when they said it yesterday and then unfortunately happens.

But we we know when you're dealing with ISIS. What I can look like what you said, there's this important post understand you not to get this kind of analysis elsewhere where you got military expert policy experts, lawyers, government affairs people former directors of national intelligence members residential cabinets will try to give you what you practically could be happening here.

You said there's a couple of things militarily that with the size of the truth. We have come up with 5200 and I think we could do it. We might have to supplement some before example, this will only fly into the left of where we have assets like the one 60th aviation Battalion, which is a special ops helicopter unit in the Kabul airport.

Just this morning that you dictate where the chinooks they flew 200 yards out of the airport picked up Americans and flew back to the airport. We have assets to go and get Americans where they are, what we need to do is make sure we have enough troops at the airport to expand the perimeter and secure the airport I you have explained the perimeter. You don't know that airport but I don't know the airport but at least so that you don't have Taliban guarding your gate to nest, where we are now so we need to push them back. We need to tell the Telemann. As I said earlier, you take care of ISIS in your internal security. We will secure this airport in the meanwhile we are going to get Americans out you can you can work with us or what you can work against us. That is our mission will do it and then we also need to make sure that we actually have air assets so that you can't let terror attacks go unchallenged. You can't not respond to them.

So ISIS need to pay a price. We need user military power to go to a course on province were ISIS is headquartered and attack them there to send them a message while were sending a message to the Delavan that we are getting our people out secure the airport user aviation assets get the Americans in and out. We can do this and we probably have enough troops there to do it. He would not take more than another 1500 2000 Battalion's worth doing if we needed more. But this mission can be accomplished what it takes. As Harry said some some spine to go when you say this is our mission, we will not fail. We do not leave Americans behind, and this is a doable mission. If were willing to do it, go to Fountain Square, Virginia and Idaho on line 1 hydrogen welcome to secular you're the I and God bless you for all you I support you in my care and actually what I can break my question is with an credibly shield. Debacle from the White House. Are we ever going to recover our allies. How can I say this there there there will they still be our allies. We betray them, but I think listed to this Fox news report about average in exactly retirement with our allies so out and not not just Afghan allies but our allies in NATO take Alyssa by 50 this is really a worst-case scenario for US allies around the world. We saw over the past week. Places like Great Britain, France, Germany, basically begging the United States now extend that August 31 withdraw deadline and the situation now is really dire.

You have still foreign troops on the ground trying to evacuate their personnel and those who are left at the airfield.

We've also got a situation where there are foreign countries who say they have citizens not only trapped in Kabul but across this entirety of the Avenue Afghanistan. They go I think you Virginia right there. It is definitely caused our allies to rethink US promises.

Some of this, our political system we we change administration with things to write the middle of of of plans like this.

This plan was put in place by the Trump administration initially, though it is as Rick Cartwright severely deviated from conditions on release when they were going were not doing that here at this I can imagine Donald Trump leaving under the circumstances like this. Anyways I the disengagement of the orbit at this point, I think a bit explained if there was no explanation to the American people. It wasn't made clear, and so I this idea to that we first told people rush to airport and I guested set up the Intel that those people will be sitting duck targets rubbed not the Taliban but from the this ISIS K group so the Islamic state a and that is to get an Islamic state group that ISIS group that works within the African region for about six years or so they been on the scene.

I carry out some attacks for member those additional attacks, though primarily on your Afghan forces or Taliban forces.

They were not on US forces regularly because we were to have a backseat advisory role Kabul recently in Afghanistan so II think this will be knows that this is a very serious situation that another segment coming up to get it to gorditas will continue take your phone calls at 164 3110 at we keep being told that while were just told that American casualties are likely to rise as they ramble so there were there were Americans yet, so they got to where it soever this car got ordered or it was either near the gate close software. There were the US soldiers or there were Americans hanging out at that hotel in the advisors we don't know yet. The information this is still from a tomboy that happened hours ago yards ago now and word evening down Afghanistan so do we. They also say in the same reports. This is from the Pentagon from the US government don't go there. Don't send anybody else to the airport and they expect more tax so that that's where we are right now in Kabul and we I think it's very dangerous situation. Remember troops to their extremely chaotic situation every 21 put some trust in the Taliban I Jennifer Griffith talked about this. Take Alyssa by 46 x 46 Alabama. From what I've been hearing from ironically from the front Pentagon officials have been fighting them trying to kill them for the last 20 years. They have had to negotiate with them.

They think it's been a very fraught situation. Yet the CIA director after fly out and meet with Boulevard are in Kabul on Monday.

This is a very surreal situation for any military service member who served in Afghanistan was surreal free was served very real though for those who are on the ground right now and Jordan. Very unnecessary. A series of really stupid mistakes led to this predicament we come back will continue to ignore your comments Facebook periscope YouTube however watch Instagram as well.

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Initially we see this kind of information that we talked about as a potential it still is that these kind of attacks. If we see a wave of these tonight. You know where this more US troops affected the way the Taliban condemned the blast sent was quote in an area where US forces are responsible sows US troops were directly obviously targeted by this attack, they fell. I think they were not in control that area. Taliban but everybody was in agreement.

Both the Taliban United States.

There was this real threat from ISIS to carry out these kind of attacks which are the suicide attacks the body at the carbonic attacks initial reaction probably for most people. As we shoot back. We launched airstrikes is not, but it's a type quarter so you not see air sharing her happiness.

A second but but say you do think okay are you the US respond that is not what the general thinking right now is this is going to be just another impetus to get out there so that's loves and asked Herrick resigned to what you said earlier think is really something we have to think about and that is does the binding ministration use.

This is statement is that we we got the Americans troops are at the airport from our understanding. Thus, we can evacuate the troops working with civilians behind relieved other people that work with us behind, but possibly but we just stick to the plan. So they had a policy. The policy was to get out of August 31. I guess and hope that they would be evaluating that plan to maybe looking at differently. But what what your sense of knowing what they want to do and what the reality but were hearing on the ground is how would you do this and what where there has to be flexibility in policy is not that I think you are absolutely right Jerry, but I also think before you formulate a policy you also have to have some principles and so one of the great things about the prior administration was that they would put America and Americans first.

The Biden administration has essentially discussed decided to cave on the world stage. They have not been sufficiently flexible in executing their plan. Their plan was insufficiently nimble and they did not have contingency plans in place before they started executing the plan, so the Biden administration has decided to to do several things and to do them in the wrong order starting with evacuating if you will, the Bagram airport and then they decided oh while we have American citizens at risk. Let's now trust and depend on the Taliban and we all know that the Taliban which has engaged in terror.

In the past is an unreliable partner and so I think what we need now is for a President Biden to fire the Joint Chiefs of Staff to fire the defense secretary and to insert someone like Wesley Smith as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, someone with Ghats someone with foresight and someone with the willingness to use American force when and if needed, there is a political issue. There's military issues in the looking at the political issues and I'm trying to figure out and then you're up there Republicans and Democrats.

What's the consensus this afternoon as were life watching listen to us in the evening.

Obviously things may have changed the next hour.

Who knows weakness and evolving situation but then as it is right now what you think. I think it's distilled down to really two main items we touched on both but I think there's a desperation here that the administration secure that airport is jamming in and you can't overstate how high-value a target that is right now. And then secondly this goes back to what Jordan was talking about.

I think the consensus here.

Jordan Jake is is that he ministration is leaving their gonna leave and right regardless of who gets out there and leave by August 31. And J. I am not not plant trying to play semantics game and not try to click guy got you.

We just have to be real about this.

That will leave a situation where Americans are stranded.

It's not a game. It's not Islamic advantage in sake we are going to have American stranded. If they do that and so then then the question becomes the one that Jim Banks posed what kind of unconventional evacuations.

Are you in the budget you have to conduct them. You can't just leave them and I know it was now here to reports is a potential third attack Northgate certificate of the airport. The journalist reported her on the ground right now.

So we need confirmation from that week we had the two that have been confirmed, but they said more coming. It looks like that wave is beginning as its nightfall Genesis does next time. This is this is following.

I hate to say this, following the ISIS playbook. A lot of people gather together a chaotic situation a big two different side of it is likely that other right this is where the utilizing did this in Syria to ever there was multiple way.

There were people fighting ISIS from Hezbollah right and Iran, and then we were there to fighting ISIS on the ground, but also fighting the Asad regime sometimes so they utilized the situations they understand that is think in a three-dimensional way that we were talking about and not just an academic way of putting fees for those who died in CA 92892 Mark Bay and Germany every Bagram air pay or health care around the airport where you think that the airlift why what is we could do the six, less any right to be from Germany.

Specifically, we doubt him for the bog will be a pretty massive engagement because we totally let that be of exactly and then the second. If they need more people to airport up should they did to that the earliest weekly to increase the numbers like us they could Haverford be out of Germany.

But the bigger question is, could you get more troops there to secure this. It would be very costly to try and retake Bagram now tell a man had has taken over the airport and they have our weapons in our vehicles and our aircraft. Even at that at that air base that would be very costly. I think a more practical solution would be to have enough troops, even if we send in some more may not have to to actually have a huge perimeter around couples, airport security, airport, finish the mission and and go home. What's the risk area from late May. I was thing about this moment thought about this from our allies there be with us because we put them in Holland has stopped and Belgium stopped any kind of evacuation efforts right now totally state the name, people over there. Canada has people of their Germany, France, I think the long term. They will be less willing to trust America, they will be less willing to follow American leadership and if I were advising those countries. I would echo those sentiments because so long as the Biden administration is in charge.

We basically have a spineless administration which subjects are foreign allies to attack.

This of course Jordan was the ministration that said, the bringing America back to the national or international stage right. The international stage. They left the whole world is not just laughing there crying a lot with us to because our allies there have seen the US once again it's similar to the Obama years drought redlines of the red lights passing and our allies. They can't rely under Trump they were, they complained all the time they complained about his personality, but they did complain about whether or not we would stick it out on the Ford policy state that was the difference is we might've been feared even by our allies but we worked disliked in that sense of of that we can't trust you anywhere. I think there will be 800 has its remainder anymore to just jump into any kind of US conflict because of the way this is being handled really continue to monitor this, of course I with broadcast tomorrow. There is that report that there is an additional attack and the State Department is saying not come to the airport not saline the airport which could signal a wrap up of the evacuations and did a move into putting the military on the plains and leaving that is the that is what it appears to be will update you give? The American Center for Law and solutions at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most to you and your family.

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