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BREAKING: Biden Admin Was Warned of Afghanistan Collapse

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August 20, 2021 1:00 pm

In breaking news, we have learned that in July of this year, the Biden Administration was warned by a State Department memo about gains made by the Taliban in Afghanistan. They knew that Kabul would likely collapse, yet the Administration went forward with their bungled plan of U.S. military evacuation. Jordan and Logan Sekulow discuss the fallout of the chaos in Afghanistan as more information becomes known. This and more on today's Sekulow .

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Today I'm secular. The binder ministration was warned to stand collapse back in July.

Specific to Kabul, joined by Rick Trammell and Mike, keeping you informed and now this is a tough week for the President was that confidential cable that Fox News confirmed it was sent by State Department officials on the ground in Kabul to present Terry's state and the blinking warning of the rapid possible rapid collapse of Kabul. Soon after the withdrawal date and offering mitigation methods and also recommendations for speedy evacuation want to hear from you Sharon, call 1-800-684-3110 and it constitutes the clearest proof that the administration had been warned by the officials on the ground that the Afghan military may not be able to hold up Caliban creating some questions about whether the President even sighed now your secular reviewed all this a great show for you because we really enjoyed the first half hour by Rick L. R. Supervisor for policy national security second half hour Mike Pompeo. She really get both of their reactions to what is going on in Afghanistan and responses well to to the idea that the potential finger-pointing that we might see next week or this unfortunately could dissolve the partisan politics by saying while this was actually present. Trump started the withdrawal process were talk about that with both rebel and Pompeo because if you really look at what they were doing.

They were beginning a process that had benchmarks that had goals had obligations that had to be met. That's very different than just a list all that out. Just go in the. The differences that you have something to judge about this. It's complete chaos again. I went over today of the broadcast would love to hear from people served Afghanistan are your thoughts on this as well. Your thoughts of the present by blaming the Afghan military for four disappearing and I know that there is some truth to that.

They kind of dissolve. But the more we looked into. The truth is inflated their numbers by double their culture about 100 3000 50,000 and they have been on the front lines of the battle the last 15 years. So the reason why US casualties of God down is because of on the front lines a bit Afghan soldiers so they been depleted their military.

While the Taliban was hiding out so I get. There's a lot to talk about their but the breaking news is that in July July 13. So with plenty of time to change plans before the withdrawal was made before we got to this chaos, there was a State Department confidential dissent channel used that warned of rapid territorial gains by the Taliban and the subsequent collapse of the Afghan security forces also called on the State Department to use tougher language to describe the atrocities being committed by the Taliban. There were 23 US Embassy staffers all-American side onto this cable and cable. I we do have recognition from the State Department that Sec. Blake does review all of those cables. So the question is did get to Joe Biden or not, and that's that is a big question, but Logan. This is huge news because now we know that the State Department, so the Biden administration, the political point is new from the embassy staff that they that they their plan was problematic and it was specific to Kabul follow up. Following this was just about Afghanistan in general or specific to Kabul, falling much like all the stories that keep coming out until the last six months whether that is is was happening in Israel was having down Afghanistan. It is history repeating itself. You're sitting the same kind of stories as we did back this. This has sleep shadows and shades of a fast and furious people work told what was happening beforehand.

We were involved somehow didn't get to the right people and chaos ensued. Even though our intelligence said this is what happened. I love to hear from you. Doesn't feel the same to you, as well as billing history repeating itself. 1-800-684-3110.

Thousands of your logic right now online, encourage you to share your watching a Facebook like if you are watching the thumbs up on YouTube. Make sure you subscribe share this into as many fees as possible to break. We are also filing a FOIA ACLJ taking action on will explain that more we come back on this State Department memo and more supportive workplace yields a matching child with August ACLJ.org will be right. The American Center for Law and just as were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those faith uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we simply would not occur without your generous heart wrenching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you. You forgive today online okay only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive.

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The indications were that Kabul was not going to fall so yes, these other territories northwest of different parts Afghanistan may be situation there gets more chaotic but not where our Embassy is not where our people are not where the medias had court over the majority of of Westerners are hanging out and in George Stephanopoulos last night and others criticism ABC news is getting because they did some editing that was out of the edited to make Biden look better because his responses were horrendous on their own. But if you execute the transcript. There were times when he was just rambling. They didn't think they cut that out. But here's one they didn't cut out. They did play about the takeover of Afghanistan by the Taliban directly by 19 put a timeline on when he said it was highly unlikely.

Dissent flat-out is highly unlikely. Taliban would take over now. Well, the question was whether or not it.

The idea that the Taliban would take over was premised on the notion that the somehow the 300,000 troops. We are trained and equipped just collapsed or agree to give up. I don't think anybody anticipate except for your own State Department in July that warns you specifically that they warned of a rapid territorial gain by the Taliban and the subsequent collapse of the Afghan security forces. So both the fall of Kabul follow Afghanistan and the collapse of the security forces the military that he is talking about present. Biden is talking about this 300,000 number. His administration was told more than a month ago that they are going to crumble by the people who are actually on the ground. Afghanistan we know base of the State Department's report in at least Sec. Blake and reads these memos that comes through. We don't know if he took it to the present or not. You would think that the secretary of state would not be having the President make statements.

This broad saying, well, no one thought that this military was going to collapse except for your experts, your people on the ground like Logan said with a fast and furious with the gods of the people on the ground are being ignored once again, instead of utilizing their information to your advantage. Which is why you have them on the ground if you're ignoring them for your political purposes within you get the chaos that we have seen since Sunday so I want everyone to understand. We are filing a FOIA ACLJ is to take action on the supreme information act request one on this that this new report that there was this memo that went to the State Department warning that the Taliban would Kabul would fall to the Taliban shortly after the US military withdraw that it would be chaotic. But second two are for hip. This is interesting and I'm a talk about the secretary of four secretary state my Pompeo the Trump administration created the State Department a contingency and crisis response bureau.

The CCR that was abolished by the Biden administration. What time would you need more a contingency and crisis response bureau in a time when you have 10,000 to 40,000 Americans stranded in Afghanistan.

By the way the last eight hours. The last report out of the news it still on the ground and working to see less and less imagery on the ground from front we might see from people using their social media orders. Most of the of the news outlets, including print, pulling their people to grant CNN is still there in their last report was that there had not been a single flight out the last eight hours by the United cement is a bit more by 9+ that is something that I think working to have to look into. The concern is you you start having these major media outlets looking understandably leaving its dangerous situation and no upside the liquor in wartime were there. They are covering what's going on jerk covering what's going on, but becomes unsafe for their own people and not even again like a wartime kind of press course, but you have that action. CNN you have someone there to guy give them props for having someone still there because this quickly could leave the new cycle we all just forget and that is even maybe even more dangerous to forget what happening why think that there's a thought by the Biden team that you know with with the mask encoded and the spread of covert and people trying to get back to some kind of normal eyes back to school begins this issue as bad as it is will somehow be forgotten. Here's where I think that that runs into a problem though so many thousands of Americans fought Afghanistan and their families remember that their lives were lost Afghanistan or that they came back their lives were lost Afghanistan. Their vision was lost to fight for this word I can let, then I can forget their families are going to forget were not going to allow to be forgotten either at the ACLJ were to continue on this but I think that what has to be again underscored is that we now know that with all the information and all this talk about how we had no idea we had no idea whatsoever.

This would happen.

They warned a month ago by their officials at the Embassy in Kabul that if you do this, we believe that Kabul will fall and that the Afghan military will be dispersed, it will no longer exist so that again is very serious that information is there. This just came out. I think this is pretty interesting.

Sec. Glinka just tweeted that you have a bit of follow-up, but I spoke yesterday with the Deputy Prime Minister Mr. foreign affairs about Afghanistan and Cutter's generous support to safely transit US citizens to the missing Kabul personnel and at risk Afghans through dough how we command cutter for its efforts to promote regional security and this came out to Clarissa Ward from CNN again. Probably one of the last people on the ground. He got a give props a sheep just tweeted soldiers by the runway. The Kabul airport tell me there are 10,000 people here process and ready to go but nowhere to fly them because cutter is refusing to accept more Afghans as it reached capacity. It's abysmal. Someone needs to step up so within his tweets. She Artie responded that she is said that it's not happen.

That was done already. They did. They took it with a code is a small country can't take and I mean it is not Connecticut taken a million people in there are plenty of governors who have it in the states have said hey send your refugees here and in your EE whether you like that are not something that I feel like I missed in the United States feels like when you do it because there are people who are really suffering and look at the excitement of record elevator show in my Pompeo want to think they should probably address some of these issues to it comes to when you're speaking out of both sides about the of what you had that someone like secretary blinking, but not a statement of very definitive and then you have Clarissa Ward on the ground. It's in Afghanistan from CNN said a not so fast. I got to give a get sick get prompted to honesty. All the networks is the first time in a very long time and it feels like there is at least a hint of being mostly journalist and unbiased.

It would then still that would bias their still different delay being pointed but more than I've ever seen in the last six years you actually see criticism of their own party and their own people and that's up that's pretty wild thing. We know that Congress is going to be looking into this and next week.

Nancy Pelosi talked about four different congressional hearings. I think this that's it's an opportunity to be bipartisan because everyone of those districts you got people who fought and served Afghanistan. At the same time we know how quickly things devolve into partisan politics on Capitol Hill. You don't want it to become a distraction but there are a lot of questions that need to be answered by this administration now Joe Biden will think is helping biting the interviews is that we don't know where VP Harris analysis are asking that on on YouTube and Facebook where is she. She said she's the last person the room. These decisions are made. I'm not sure her or Joe Biden of the last person people in the room, not Joe Biden doesn't talk like with the authority of being the last guy in the room who is saying, okay, here's a policy thing you he's consequent wavering, and I think that because of that you get a six to the are we going to be back in a crisis is now sending troops back to secure an airport that the Taliban can outnumber very quickly and it got better equipment now because they are vehicles are weaponry our night vision goggles and instead of following what prison trumps of which is either getting that out or destroy it and destroy it. They've left it.

They left in place the ports they left in place these the structures that we put in place to to be there. I'm not someone who is a component of endless war in Afghanistan. I supported them.

The idea of a withdraw but I think that we we we talked about yesterday. The idea of what withdrawal is. If you look at where the US is been successful over the years and decades it militarily. We never left.

We look at where the US it's questionable what happened. We left so we left Vietnam we got the images of the helicopters on top of the Embassy try to get people out left Afghanistan. Same thing goes, why though there we see a difference in Korea where we kept our military Germany are kept our military.

So even when you say it's over. We don't usually do these mass withdrawals don't usually indwell usually keep enough people and what they thought Neff gives in 2500 troops very small number of US troops could be there not have to be in harm's way all the time because you have the Afghan forces on the frontline entities would Taliban wouldn't be in control or say they're regarding mostly guarding the Embassy right in their still saying that somewhat, which we know the Embassy has since had invented yet there is no interest US Embassy in Kabul right now there's a building that was US Embassy but now they're not there that they move the Embassy to the airport.

I it's it's it is you know it's not funny but I will say this, what did you expect from the people that brought you fast areas of Benghazi and the Iranian nuclear deal is a people as I can trust the Iranians with nuclear the nuclear same guy takes over is the top advisor to the present on this top advisor and he said he has faith that the ayatollahs he thinks of course say that Taliban you still give a safe haven.

They have a worldview of just that is not realistic about these individuals that were to be joined by Rick Grenell in annexing the broadcast second half hour. Might Pompeo be joining us re-into all these issues dive into the State Department memo dive into what's happening on the ground in Afghanistan and how this could've been done differently. Support the work in a sealed tape of her father for you on this@aclj.org only one.

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We are joined by our Senior advisor for policy national security record now to get down into the weeds.

More on what we are finding out about Afghanistan. Rick, I wanted to write to this new report on the Wall Street Journal about the State Department and 23 members of the US Embassy staff in Afghanistan and Kabul a warning about three things. July 13 the cup the Kelly. The collapse of Afghanistan to the Taliban.

The collapse of the Afghan military and the collapse of specifically Kabul. They sign this dated it. And we have heard from the State Department at Sec. Blake and take so seriously has read it. We don't know if it got to the President but that people on the ground.

The assets we have on the ground were warning the binder team that this was exactly what we are seeing play out was going to happen 10 years and I and of the last days have been speaking to a lot of the foreign service officers. Here's what we know in early June, the foreign service officer started to warn their superiors that they believed Afghanistan was in real trouble that the Taliban was taking over forward to July 1 and the Biden administration closed Bob Graham, airbase removing our troops not remember this is one thing that that by team fails to mention every single time they talk about the 2500 US troops. There were also 5000 NATO troops. That's the deal that Pres. Tromp made is to make the international community do more Afghanistan so we had 2500. They had 5000 troops. NATO troops there on July 1 we closed the Vibram airbase troops were removed by foreign service officers and other Americans in Afghanistan were staying.

Now that's a recipe for disaster. When you remove the military from a conflict zone that you leave behind the State Department and other American.

It boiled over the point.

On July 13 22 of the 23 people who work in the economic and political political sections at Embassy Kabul signed a descent cable which is a very rare thing. They went out of the chain and set we are not being heard. We are in jet and dire straits. We are in danger now that was July 13. Fast-forward the political teams in Washington at the White House, the NSA, and at the State Department and the Pentagon ignored these warnings for two months and the disaster unfolded.

They should have been listening. They should've listening to State Department officials and intelligence officials.

This would happen, Rick. There's a lot going on terms of the way media is also portraying this. Do you actually see the told joined actually do some props give to some of the outlets. Maybe we haven't given props to for the last six years fractured being a little more aggressive to the Biden administration, but you also had Sec. blinking yesterday or just weeded actually just I just tweeted that he spoke to the Deputy Prime Minister foreign affairs for Afghanistan and cutter and they were to help get them out and get you United States and also Afghan refugees to cutter immediately. CNN response and says that's not happening here on the ground. There's 10,000 people. White ghetto planes there and they're saying no principal it is like he was bending spaceship is just a breakdown in public relations or is that a concentrated affect our effort. Do you think to say hey get this out there so then we know the majority people see this in… So that we can come spend it both ways. Integrate question. I think the fundamental answer is we have a bunch of people at state political appointees would been hired who are NGO type activist, they are not America first people look no farther than on the plane, loud C-17 packed with people coming out of Afghanistan is when Americans those were a whole bunch of other people. Now I am all for looking through applications to figure out who's in danger who help desk we have very clear rules that you can come out of Afghanistan as an immigrant, a special immigrant visa. If you can prove that you actually helped the Americans for a year. We have standards the State Department has instructions from Congress that they have to uphold but that claimant C-17 should been loaded with thousands of Americans.

First, we need to remove the Americans you don't remove the troops and leave American foreign service officers. American State Department employees and Americans in Afghanistan in a conflict so you do that you remove those people first and the last thing you do as President trumps as is you bring out the troops and Lenny just finished quickly by saying Pres. from top to the telegraph. So did Joe Biden's team. There's one difference in talent and heard a very different message from the Tromp administration don't make a move. Don't go forward and try to take over the city by clearly date the telegram didn't care is Biden's demands that something that's really interesting Rick. We talked about your show earlier in the week is the demands what would actually be the rules and regulations of getting out doing these deals. One of them was a baby. Some of the destruction of weaponry and we talked about my prepare was well on this just came out just about an hour ago on the Taliban been showing off pictures using we had the photo, I believe you're watching on social media, shows off captured US weapons of putting pictures himself holding these United States that they replace the AK-47s Rick with the taxpayer-funded machine guns and assault weapons, but you an indent that is a bigger question and and it was only got two minutes to this a huge question, but were now sitting troops back in the try and secure an airport. Are we with the amount of Americans were told somewhere between 10,000 40,000 huge number. Their big difference that are all around Afghanistan and with these foreign service officers to reverse must be operating though I cannot airport now. I think at an but they still talk about the USMC this this is it to me means bigger than Benghazi, in the sense of the scale of what we've done Afghanistan sacrifice their but were also not out of the woods with those kind of incidents occurring either when we are putting out messages to why the Taliban's promise safe passage to people to the airport.

I mean that that came out from the US government.

Local France and the British out there collecting their citizens and not relying on the talent and I've already heard people inside Afghanistan who are faced with multiple checkpoint.

The Taliban controls everything around there. But this is not a one simple checkpoint where you just show your your idea and you get through. Not only is there Taliban checkpoint, but Americans and NATO forces had at checkpoints and that's difficult to get through. The Americans don't always believe the paperwork to be presented so it's not an easy thing and for John Kirby at the Pentagon suggest completely act light up get to the airport and and that will help you is outrageous. This never should have happened on the weapons question very quickly.

I'll just say Donald Trump was very clear. You bring the weapons home you bring all of our equipment home. If you can't bring it home and you disable it and destroy it so they don't and that that was not done here. That was clearly not showing it off Rick as always we appreciate your insight really to have you back next week I did to get in. Further, we hope that your things improve. We also deal in reality.

Here, folks were found that FOIA hits the bottom of where this memo went at the State Department and we believe it was read by sec. blinking base of the State Department marked the questions that he ever brief present Biden can't remember his briefings regardless what he sitting down is a no no no, boxes don't recall if I was told that the right Mexican empower my cocktail joining us actually today will be right back at the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be managed $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the world who knew protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ.keeping you informed anything. Now, this is Jordan secular now know reset the stage and that was great with Rick regarding the summative should he's able to share for people on the ground with this is actually like what the trust administration was going to do how this would been differently and also just reiterating that we part of this withdrawal was, not to deliver speech at a UK LSA pull those remarks from member parliament, the UK served Afghanistan who talked about how they this scares me as an American. They no longer want to be reliant on the United States is it to me times you been burned. We have our people there that we have NATO why are we saying that because the US withdraws. Chaos ensues now so that's because US military, even compared to all the data combined can even compared but second liquid.

Rick said they would double the amount of NATO troops there were US troops. Why were they better utilizing coordinated because I is what will play for you that this said that what happened in the House of Commons on this speech. It was remarkable. I was talking basically about not in any way that they were happy about the fall of the United States as a world leader with that. That is very troubling.

But when you have a present who is at best just doesn't remember, and at worst is a lifetime politician who was lying to you and Joe Biden somewhere in the middle there now deftly lifelong politicians used to tell lies, but he's also see what he's losing it. Take a listen. This bite 30 when we now know that there was a cable that it was very unique soda stood out so Rick said this is not some that happens often. That said, hey, is going to fall is about a month before the withdrawal, will fall the Afghan military will not be able to defend the country, they will disappear and the entire country will fall. Ultimately, we are not safe in his Rick said. For some reason which I don't know. It's been reported yet the military left. We left all these American diplomats people like you and Libby who could not defend themselves who were there with the military to defendants that they could do their job to take a listen to Joe Biden, military advisers warned against the tremendous timeline they wanted to keep about 2500 for no they didn't was split there that I wouldn't. I wasn't true. They didn't tell you that they wanted troops to stay. No, not at not in terms of whether we were going to get out to the timeframe. All troops they didn't argue against that to know and no one told you military I should not tell you know we should just keep 2500 troops. It's been a stable situation for the last several years. We can do that we can continue to do that know no one said that to me that I can recall usually so definitive located snow that is not that it was that there was is that is the word that you look for right there. There will that was split people or pleasers people advising you to people not advising yet say that sailor was a split within him to double down at the end in sight.

Now know know that I can recall anything, he clears himself that he can remember. I you might be the biggest issue with with all this to events as ever touch my pump it up as well but is is one of course on the gap on the ground still losses the American blood that was shed in Afghanistan and again you stress the questionable. For what purposes that if you kept 2500 troops there who were relatively safe because they were they were kind of directing the Afghan forces and if you keep your airbase. Then I think it's a say the words overcoming World War II is over. We still have a massive base in Germany and we been there to celebrate 4 July.

There is yellow mini America. Yeah, I mean soap what would be the problem with that. Maybe who were canceled when data where you even would draw down to a lower number but you keep why keep your making America the week of the world stage. That is where I think the bigger geopolitical issue here. You get outside of the moment Afghanistan is the world is saying saying you know what like in Vietnam. This is another opportunity is kinda chaotic in the US and letter protesting the US is a lot of uncertainty about election in the US is been over the pandemic and now another Vietnam part two. So the theses on these moments. So, the Chinese were they doing the Russian errata recognized Kelvin as the official government of Afghanistan.

By the way, though going to be able to work easily. In Afghanistan you know like they have no morals. They do not care how the women are treated or how people treat girls to school or not, will be right back on site. The American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom detecting those who are persecuted for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 oh $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ. The work we do.

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Now we know that on July 13. There was a memo put together by 23 US Embassy staffers all Americans. On July 13 sit through a special State Department up a program called the confidential dissent channel that said all that, it said that Afghanistan would fall the tallow band that the Afghan military would fall apart and the cobble would fall and we also heard from the State Department. The secretary blinking at the world your former office at does review these because they are rare. So the only question is whether got to Joe Biden or not, but it certainly got to the top of this administration so they will be worn Sec. Pompeo by the people on the ground.

Why do you think they ignored the eye and almost certainly the case that that the think cable got Dr. blinking is almost certainly get productive so many and I'm confident that there were other dumpster on the military side as well as told the exact same thing. I can tell you that because we we were concerned about that as well wait. We knew that we had to get the conditions right fully executed on the plan to get our final set of soldiers at that wedding equipment out we had to get millions already do all of those things it's unsurprisingly today.

The they got on the fact the present by myth that nobody told us I thought would deeply and consistently that I knew senior leaders inside the government believed about making sure we had the conditions right before the withdrawal was completed talked to him was it you truck to Ms. Fisher you were serving.

Yes, you have these meetings. Yes there with the obligation once you have that opportunity for our audience is is so much going on right now in Afghanistan just to tell people the difference between how the Trump administration was planning this verse is what the Biden administration did this kind of just full on withdrawal without the precondition said to me reminds me of how they go about dealing with Iran how to go about dealing back today with in Libya. It's it's just crisis after crisis instead of following kind of checkpoints currently at a methodical approach that you can see it right.

I have yet to speculate. You could see how we battle for four years you completed. We drew down our forces and each time we evaluated the condition democratically. Make sure that we accomplished the twin that he put the President that output will be extra get are going to go home to quickly as we can present was determined to do that. But second to make sure that we did in the and orderly way that prevented ungoverned spaces Inc. the opportunity for risk reduction measures something like this never happened again unimaginable to me that they pulled the military. I prefer the civilian defendant back to be there much equipment they hadn't thought this through with our allies and partners week we were determined when I met with the Taliban. We will clear you violate the agreement, you will pay multiple times in the course of our time in service.

They did that they pushed on checkpoint.

They did things that were inconsistent with what they promised they would do the brightest when you trust them.

These are evil butchers when they did that we respond.

We imposed real cost of memo, we began to develop this deterrence model the deterrence model that permitted us to go from 15,000 American dollars to about 2500 and keep things stable that that Afghan stable right.

Keep a lid on this thing, all the while going from 15,000 2500. On the lifted the deterrence model when the Taliban pushed on America under Pres. Biden America retreated when you retreat in the face of an adversary going to get exactly what you think they get an American retreat. Get America without leadership when you get enormous credibility lost from United States of America, Congress asked the other day talking about holy hearings next week. I think that there is an opportunity chemically seen in the media to some extent that these could be more fair and bipartisan, but I am also always conservative Congress right now is so partisan, so hyper, parts, and that it will devolve into finger pointing, which is why I wanted you to comment on that directly because I think that there there are those who say what about Trump wasn't that the Trump demonstration started this year meetings with with these nerves and tabby. But as you said, there's a butchers and it you hold them to align you tell him what it is he saying here the consequences. But we do know.

Also, the consequences to the US global you got a new piece of ACLJ.org, where you called a disgrace that this is this withdrawal has been a disgrace. We cite SE China and Russia rushing back and even Russia rushing back into to Afghanistan ready to welcome the tallow band and the atrocities that come with the Taliban because they don't have that moral viewpoint that the US does, but to call you to use the language like a disgrace at this distant have to have to happen this way did it started thing I did that word very intentionally because of the implications that go far beyond Afghanistan. It is certainly disgraceful that we didn't do right by those folks that we met, sister not only are partners and allies but the people who serve alongside our soldiers there on the ground that is that is disgraceful. Think of this.

Without American role, but second I can promise you that leaders around the world, that the chance to talk to over the last week are deeply concerned about the other commitments. The Pres. Biden might be willing to walk away with with no notice with no strategy with the theory of the case is the kind of things that are just so utterly incomprehensible and credibility good. You know that it takes a long time to build back.

I hope America will start doing metadata. Pres. Biden will demonstrate to the Taiwanese to the Ukrainians to the Cuban people who are simply demanding freedom that America will stand with those who are friends and allies do not walk away with them when times get just a little bit tough receiving UK members of Parliament.

There's one who served Afghanistan. It was speeches about questioning whether or not they should be so reliant on the United States when a move like this is made as NATO and NATO forces there and that gets the US makes him a unilateral move like this and kind of leaves in place, you know, these countries are doing what they can to get their people to safe places. When asked you about that. We were told that there's a number that's a very broad number somewhere between 10 and 40,000 Americans in Afghanistan that we know summer there's NGO work. They may not want to leave.

They may be willing to risk the debts to okay but that but that there is a show a huge amount of people that need to be removed that were not removed. So what what are the chances that we see actually more violence and conflict because we gotta put troops back in to go get those Americans out to our neighbors yard work by now had to cripple the number of horses that we had in our administration on the ground with cripple number the forces that have chaos with 1/3 of the horses we had relative stability and certainly safety for American demonstrate that we have the right end of the stick with understanding how you deter threats against America. Second, the aren't you now see our European partner so that I have to just take a moment there I remember there or at President from ending. Remember when we were trying to build NATO to be in that the stronger fighting force. We left NATO better. It's not that the administration punched a hole in our NATO alliance and our friendships with NATO that is going to have to be rebuilt but I'm counting on America to do that, but the irony of it was by the trumpet was going to destroy these important security and intrusion present right now just seven months has destroyed them should be lost on anyone. Speeches that are being made again. You would think that this was the saw the Alireza and the presence of a lot of criticism of each of you present company by supported that looking at the world in a new way but yet again I meet some of it is like when you have the Jake Sullivan types his national security advisor that did that Iranian nuclear deal. Think you can make deals with the Ayatollah and without really any checkpoints and without any kind of real us surveillance of their program and they not let you to certain sites is the same people who are advising on on this issue. The question is can this ship is there still time to right this ship when it comes to Afghanistan and when it comes to securing that the Americans were still there or not. By the.

Couple things by the market a little bit right here is what he could do.

He could make clear.

Not only does America have the capacity to get every American. I will going to do it will do whatever it will take whatever time it takes everything quickly several months, so be it will going to deliver American security and working to get them out will use whatever tools we need to do tell Taliban will going to begin imposing costs on you immediately. Until we deliver against this important American object expected layout for the American people today a plan.

How is that working to secure America from threats from Afghanistan as we move forward in the coming weeks about years.

How is it that we make sure that were now 20 years on from 9/11. How is that we make sure that we never see another day like that come from that flight.

Yet.

And finally he should tell the American people he could get accountability for what happened with that cataclysmic failure. People need to be held accountable and I hope for the vital make clear that the intensity that there is a great new piece of pie you on our website, ACLJ.org, you'll see it's like a Pompeo is divided administration's withdrawal from Afghanistan is a disgrace. You can read that chair that is wealth you also provide great content and secretary Pompeo for the last month, new blogs, new pieces, every couple days. You can find that and so much more@aclj.org. I suggest you all go and take a look at the content is actually free but also support what is he okay visiting ACLJ.org, click donate button to challenge alterations are effectively doubled only one.

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We were just this broadcast today joined by two members of our team who I don't care if you anybody could shed more light on all the things that were be reported right now because the central role of the State Department since role the intelligence community to have record now in my Pompeo on the ACLJ team for serving these issues and with these crises and chaos develop to get their insight.

How could things change. What could be different about this.

What is the truth about what the administration was planning to do in Afghanistan. How is that different from what the Biden ministration has done in Afghanistan were able to bring that all to you it's because your financial support ACLJ we have a matching challenge this month of August. Double the impact your donation@aclj.org were able you know we were RT with people like my Pompeo and Ricker now. There's a lot of people behind-the-scenes to that joined the team as well so we can best utilize all that the and those resources that you don't see on the screen or don't hear on the radio broadcast this because of you that during a pandemic. During this time of Al Qaeda, chaotic time in our country, to say the least and the world that we been able to grow as an organization and we've not just been able to maintain it to grow and to bring on these experts.

They see adjacent. I always wanted remind you of that.

But also thank you. That's why were able to have these team members of her doctors guest but are part of the ACLJ team that I talked about this with secretary Pompeo. I'm pretty pleased with it. It touched me up. Deeply I when I heard it because to hear a member of Parliament from the United Kingdom who fought alongside the United States and our NATO allies and his friends. Many lost their life fighting in Afghanistan. Specifically, he delivered our remarks in Parliament yesterday. Take a listen because about it how troubling this is about the United States as well. When it went. When the world was saying.

While this America first off fellow that inserts a Pompeo talked about that. Oh that's so horrible. That's the worst, but there were no problems.

You know the world was young places like Afghanistan as I like a secretary Pompeo Sims Afghanistan called but take a listen to now how a member Parliament is also the chair there for the fair select committee, this is Tom to get hot from the UK who is also a veteran of the Afghan war of this is a harsh lesson for all of us. It could be a very, very difficult lesson from allies doesn't need to be we can set out a vision clearly articulated for reinvigorating European NATO partners to make sure that we all know, dependent on a single ally on the decision of a single leader sticker that we know who the time that they love him.

This is the UK this very unusual yes he perceives not the minority party. There is a majority party. There he sees his role as a foreign affairs select committee chair, a veteran who fought alongside the United States. But when he says we don't rely on a single person country are single leader is the United States you UK is even recently come to grips with the fact that they are the superpower they once were.

They have to rely on people like the United States. We do not of a giant country in their power has certainly shrunk over the another influence is still massive. It's one of the big yellow powerhouses of the world but still in there saying specifically on camera making statements, we can't reach a spear lien on the United States and a lot of that is because of the mishandling of the current situation Afghanistan something that again heartbreaking for all of us here but in good blame is being pointed it's just a mess yet and he went on further to talk about how this was, not something he wanted to have to do, but he also talked about the rights of those Afghan forces earlier broadcast of Biden ministration tried to blame them in the Afghan government.

Truth is, though they have taken the brunt of the casualties last 15 to 20 years up in Afghanistan.

They were the front lines, so he talks about working alongside the, the 82nd airborne for the United States and those Afghan a special forces take a listen by 48 until it is grace that I now criticize one of them. I was never proud of them when I was decorated by the 82nd Ave. of the Service, is a huge privilege huge privilege to be recognized by such extraordinary unit incumbent to see that commander-in-chief call into question the courage of men on foot with the claimant they ran strength those who have never fought for the colors they fly should be careful about reciting those who have an geopolitical consequences and the devastating nature this can have the United States.

They why, why would we trust this team to get involved with Iran, but we trust them to start any conflict. I mean if you're American abroad, something happened to you. Would you trust Tony blinking and and the and Adm. Kirby who you can't keep himself out of the US government had to come back that to keep the lines the American people you trust them to get you home. I don't think so, like I think when you look at this from international point of view me. That is a damning statement is coming from the UK. I have I have really close friends there UK and the cliff they told me that the last book they want exactly thrilled with trump. Either they spent many years criticizing.

They showed you how they had the parades of the antitrust rallies, but apparently the way the news is covering not unlike here I said that given the proper is gone from well this person they don't feel was fit to do the job. They also felt was a caricature to that. This is a massive mistake that not only affects America.

In effect, pop culture, if you well. This affects their own troops and their own, our own allies and land that is that is tough to hear someone who honestly supports our country and support Yankees America to hear members of Parliament, making the statement yet how the world could shift away coming so quickly. The world can make also kind of has a role in deciding whether or not you're the that the superpower forgot we have the superpower should bad in China and in any kind of a lesser Russia who were rushing back into Afghanistan rushing back into Afghans and I and I just want to make it clear that while right now were reacting to on the ground and will see what present by this essay after our broadcast is over, but will and that's a lot on the ground reaction. What we aren't doing yet is thinking about that he was starting to how bad this is for America and American leadership is one thing when they are afraid of you and I think they were the trust administration.

Even summer allies.

They were afraid.

Fear is different than no longer trust no longer being able to rely on the United States and it doesn't mean you have to agree on the time of your allies but you work together.

We secretary Pompeo talked with the NATO forces that were there utilizing those NATO forces more. It appears that they would be willing to of done that and that we didn't have to live through what we've seen, but it is the United States that made this decision is the United States government that made this call and it will input it will have an impact. It doesn't matter who you voted for who you think. One election, it will have an impact on the United States now can we write the ship. Of course we know we can is been done before, during Vietnam. It was a true it was. There were cavities are much higher. The, the kind of toad on the ground in America was more chaotic and but we were not as connected global so they were still not that connection. We did write the ship them.

We remain the world superpower question is after this debacle you get another three years of these guys and gals. I guess if if VP pierces around you have a asparagus, if present, by what will America be like them. Just to get reelected to a second term. End of this term. Look at the mistakes it doesn't matter what side of the alley or on anymore. You can see, you can call the South. What is massive, massive, chaotic stake by the United States putting our status of the world of the American several injustices were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate, it will be now $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in the world who knew protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms are most important to you and your family. Give a gift today online ACLJ