BREAKING: Former CDC Director Says COVID “Most Likely” Originated in China Lab

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The former CDC director tells CNN 19 believes likely originated in the Chinese lab and will talk about that and its implications today live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow suggests.

Fires started transmitting somewhere in September October September October.

That's my opinion I'm allowed to have opinions now know I am of the point of view. I still think the most likely etiology of this pathogen and Wuhan was so from a laboratory escaped other people don't believe that that's fine. Science will eventually figure it out. Not unusual for respiratory pathogens that are being worked on a laboratory to affect laboratory worker phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110. That's not applying any intentionality. It's my opinion right but I am a virologist I have spent my life. I do not believe this somehow came from a back to a human head at that moment in time the virus came to the human became one of the most infectious viruses that we know humanity for human to human transmission and now your host here from CDC director is the former CDC director for those you may say focus or who would see the good reminders he had the beard with a mustache that CDC directory was a CDC director truck presidency during the big origins of covert and now he can speak freely. That is no longer the CDC directors. He said he doesn't buy with the world war help organization which was owned by China and with the Chinese influence they doesn't buy this idea that a bat all of that could stem from a single back any single person that could create a wide pandemic that in his opinion it came from the lab. He doesn't say it was intentionally died he said is very Cobbett adhesive, a virologist that very Cobbett people who work on these verses in the beginning of that somebody there is up getting infected by it, and then they would be the one spreading so at a minimum.

It's cut, it's the he's he is now saying he does not agree with the CDC or the World Health Organization and the CDC by way of your watching on our social media platforms will encourage you to share this with your brain thinking on radio to your post was me a lot to talk about that right now understand this original theory was this came from the wet market so that it was it was a virus that was created by remember back. Now we know at least the indications are split with the world health organization saying that this is something the Chinese government was creating so ask yourself this question, why was the Chinese government creating a virus and why isn't the world, organizations, WHO and others asking that question. We're funding that will hundred suit to hundreds of thousand US dollars, which this Institute, which is a Todd but the ideas it people putting money into these studies and we know that they are reckless either the Trident and that if he's right and I trusted people were specialist is that when they create these viruses, it did try to figure out how you would fight them that it's Copaxone would get it if if how would they think they should have known how serious it would be that if you person just walks out onto the street. That's a quick spread.

But the question is, what was the reason for creating the Bible.

I mean your problem near the Chinese government which are not their policy director.

Fortunately for us, what would be the policy to do that. It has to be in there cannot be eight.

Maybe there is some medical reason, but it just sounds the Paris it could be a viral weapon. In other words, a bio weapon and so I think the truth is slowly seeping out regarding China's culpability and the truth is emerging. Despite the politically correct censorship by both politicians and the World Health Organization, which seemingly is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Chinese government, our folks were taking your phone calls, 1-800-684-3110 at 2000 684-3110. I we come back was to get deeper into this take warrior because he talks about the bide press conference of Chile not making a lot of news because there was a lot of news made by Joe Biden if you could stomach that that hour-long press conference felt like days, 164, 31, 10, square matching challenge ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad.

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He said, and he said he disagrees with the World Health Organization assessment. This was a bat that somebody ate because at a market and that person Vincent caused a global global pandemic and that instead it that it originated in the lab, and likely leaked out for the lab at that, you know, at best, so unintentionally, because when you're working with the these kind of viruses. As he said as a specialist, it's likely that somebody working on it does get infected. They not know their infected yet the hits the streets takes a flight. That's how it spreads, but not that the CDC which he was the head of the last update. He was still director seems I was getting a ton of pushback from even having dissipated as he calls it, you would say on the website that they believe that what the covert that was in the US I was similar to when the child initially posted and they said, suggesting a likely single recent emergence of the virus from animal reservoir so he is he is now saying up free of the change. The CDC was unintelligent. Let me tell you what I think one of things it's interesting here and and when can we go to any of this. I want to see get a Washington reaction to one of things it's interesting to me is that the narrative that the left is putting out there had been that this virus was started in the wet market in China because then it doesn't look like there's the various actors behind it. There's a there's a link on the law of mens rea and attempt write something now you got at least the CDC director saying hey look I think this thing originated inside the lab, someone got it and it's bedspread. I'm not saying it was intentional or not, but it's that's very different from that was a haphazard situation in a wet market in China freed from the bonds of government control that he had as director of the CDC and unable to speak. Instead, I want to express my opinion.

I'm a virologist who worked on my life in viruses and let me tell you what I think. I think this originated in the lab and it was a little lab born airborne pathogen and he was very fell short of saying it was intentional. I'm to say that I think it was intentional.

In my opinion it was an intentional creation of a virus that was intended to spread and to do harm to the world which there is no doubt that it did. And this idea of a wet market batch in communication from batch to humans, I think, is nonsense. This was part of a Chinese scheme that was put into do many things and one of them was to create havoc in the world and it did.

Okay, so let me ask this thing. Is there a sense within Congress, but I would think this would be be bipartisan to get to the to do an oversight committee, but not exactly what happened here is great question Jay. I'm not sure there is a bipartisan consensus on that I may look if you if you take a step back.

It's really remarkable that this is even considered a controversial theory. I mean when an airborne virus originates next door to a lab that studies that very thing. Of course the very first thing that you would investigate and rule out is that originated in that lab. It sort of Occam's razor. That's the most likely scenario and yet J over the last over last year or year and 1/2. The left has mocked this. They have derided the idea that he could have originated in this lab and so I go back to the question that you ask a minute ago.

Why would they do that JI think it's because of the narrative of things like funding for the World Health Organization and if it originated in this lab, and yet they are insistent on rejoining the World Health Organization and reinstituting US funding that would undermine that narrative. So I really think they're done again against this narrative, even though it's the most likely explanation look they may have been developing this in the lab Harry to work on it so that they could develop it and then find a cure to it that could be what they were doing. The question is this so the narrative that is been out there has been this. It started in wet market, so it was kind of a natural occurrence if you will. This other looks. Here's one intent.

I understand people things not intent to commit a crime per se violation of international law.

One intent was. They were obviously growing the virus absolutely. I think that is true and what is tragic.

Of course, is that millions of Americans have been adversely and seriously affected by this virus. Think about the United States.

How many people lost their jobs, lost their houses are now suffering from mental illness. Why because China has engaged in my judgment in a cover-up. I think if we examine for instant satellite photography of Wuhan as far back as October and November of last year. You can see the hospitals parking lots in Wuhan were overwhelmed. That gives rise to what inferential information suggesting that the virus had already struck in Wuhan and third, I think we can argue. I think effectively that there was a dead giveaway with respect to this particular virus with respect to how the Chinese government reacted. They reacted by engaging arguably in a cover-up so you put all of that together and I think Dr. Redfield's analysis sounds very sound to me in terms of an explanation and I think the American people should justifiably be outraged with the lack of transparency so not much happening in the congressional and but there's supposedly a team of international and Chinese scientist that an issue its report on the joint search for the origins of the coronavirus and the working with multiple theories. One of the there's a clear front runner in the theory. According to experts of the reports will be published in in months. The question I think becomes whatever the theories we now have the former director of the CDC, saying we think this was intentionally created virus. Not that they intentionally leaked it, but that was certainly a risk when you actually created it.

That was originally created.

I think I listened back on broadcast back in February with Mike Pompeo RR's senior counsel for global affairs former secretary state. Take a listen to how he sees it at this virus emanating from China.

33 those very things we know for sure about this virus with the spec Jennifer's. That's where began is in fact the Wuhan virus.

This is indisputable in spite of enormous propaganda with the Chinese are trying to foisted on America sang this came from frozen foods or from America's laboratories is nonsense and propaganda. Second thing we know immediately the Chinese commerce party you an awful lot refused to share that information with work. Your responsibilities. A global player says if you got a problem, you make sure you keep everyone safe, they didn't close down travel inside of China but allowed people to travel to Milan and all across the world spreading this virus and they knew better. They knew that human to human transmission was taking place. Finally, we know they operated a slap and we know that there engaged in research on these kinds of viruses.

We know that they've had trouble securing viruses in their lives before 2003 we know they leaked with SARS.

Though they are not world-class when it comes to securing viruses in their laboratories.

I want to say something to ACLJ members because you just heard from our colleague Mike Pompeo, former secretary, state, and former director match former CIA director.

We have the expertise to discuss this issue which is complex and has global ramifications because of your support for the ACLJust want to say that we normally say that till the end.

But as I as we played Mike Pompeo was a sound there. I'm thinking myself. Your support of the ACLJ allowed us to retain Mike Pompeo was a senior counsel with the ACLJ for global affairs and I think that is something we want to thank you for because you're hearing it now from the former Secretary of State and former CIA director. Now there's something else going on here Jordan, that is the politics of all of this because this lease. This panel that's been put together has four theories. One of the theories as it was from a bat through an intermediate animal that was about to an animal to human trait from a bat from a leak from the laboratory and in Wuhan and they they say that in that it looks like that's can be the least likely. Although, now that former CDC director Frank note that's the most likely yeah me that this is a lot of politics going on here to including global politics.

People need to be aware of that yet global politics, especially pressuring the United States to save it out and it just so instead of saying where was all the info. The China destroyed.

Why were all the people who came out who were Chinese talk about this discredited so quickly by the Chinese government by even the US media and etiquette.

I think it ties into another.

She retired about today, which is that so many people in the United States on the payroll of China.

They benefit economically from China that there they're willing to feed out there propaganda take out those who oppose the propaganda, yes either crazy and that the they don't have any authority people disappear all the time. There and they accept that but we have seen now in Tennessee, the governor finally sees Confucius institutes which pay billions of dollars to US professors State University or they did it to the CS control buying influence has banned them from the moment I might come back and think that they forget that's how you get all these expert professors and scientists who are also professors to go along with what the World Health Organization wants which is the Chinese story that it was an accident.

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You can destroy them.

You can so that maybe what they're doing, but the fact of the matter is whatever they did we send this earlier, I want to get to planning and to to annual the first thing somebody on our government know, maybe they are should be looking at this, no question about it and they were looking at a J descendent homeland security committee under Ron Johnson in the last Senate word that doing an investigation into the origins of that. I have no indication that that investigation has continued, it should JII would say this to the caller. And even if you stipulate everything sensei said that there was for a good purpose and was accidentally released.

The fact that the Chinese government instituted a domestic travel ban, but not in international travel ban even if everything needed up to that point Jake was on the up and up, which I think is a big stipulation, but even if you grant that that move alone not stopping international travel while stopping domestic travel date they would have to be held to account for that. You would think so and Andy.

We talk about this during a break. I want to share them with the with artisan organ drawn to the goodness Confucius and Richard to but legally if you look at intent issues or negligence.

Both of those are actionable globally under global legal system. Institutions. They are under international law. Whether it's intentional or whether it's negligent.

However, it may have originated what the intent was whether it was a nefarious intent which I happen to believe it was whether it was negligence. Whether it was just a mistake or an accident.

All those are adjudicated bull in a tribunal in an and the Internet in the international sphere.

The question is whether the Chinese would submit to the jurisdiction of one on the one of these cords or these international tribunals. I doubt very seriously. I was at the stray break. Also, I want our audience to hear this radio and that is the economic consequences of this for the globe global economic impact on the gigantic, absolutely.

So if you look at the unemployment rate just before the virus had the United States had record employment, African-American, Asian, and Latin American unemployment levels were at record lows. The economy was going full out and after the virus we had shut down, some of which were arbitrary, some of which perhaps were unnecessary, but in any case that happened largely due to a pandemic that China is at fault.

With respect to their at fault in several ways. First, allowing the virus to likely escape. And secondly, because they failed to warn. There is a theory in law, particularly tort law called failure to warn and they have an affirmative obligation. I would argue to you should've warned the entire globe about the effects of this virus of Ella Lemmon in international human rights, international law there. There are serious consequence.

I don't think the government of the guard with the answers right is not what it is that is right there knocking to do it. You don't think they're going to do it, but there are serious international implications of this year.

Whether you did this intentionally or not you created it intentionally in the lab and you'd couldn't secure it and you've Artie gotten. You've Artie been found your SARS same kind of thing where you could not secure these viruses that she have no business doing this.

Then there any debt. Again, there can be serious consequences if the world wants her to be, but they don't. So instead they go to buy a scenario which doesn't make sense to the CDC director let let him explain schedule and to hear that the transmission process here because this idea that were being sold that one back one person's credit to the entire world and it wasn't that, but he talks about how if you're the lab in creating this you actually try to make them worse with the virus to be bigger so you can attack in different ways. Take a listen by 32 only when a pathogen goes from a human.

It takes a while for it to figure out how to become more and more efficient. I just don't think the biological sense. So in the lab. Do you think that process of becoming more efficient is happening is that what you are so gentler to say I have coronavirus and I'm working on. Most of us in the lab were trying to grow virus.

We try to help make it grow better and better better better and better and better so we can do experiments and figure like that's that's the way I put it together so you think about that so that it makes more sense than a virus that could spread so rapidly around the world would not be want to just randomly came from an animal right, but it would be one created a lab to be as strong as possible because the good intention would be to figure out how to defeat it like we talked about whether not the Chinese have any business doing this at this lab, which has begotten US funding by the way, after that date they have not been able secure these viruses. That's the whole idea of were doing all this research inside the US to but there secured and we also have a much more transparent government unless it involves China and suddenly we start buying foot like foolish setting stories. I don't give our for your team more work to do but I did think about this than and that is you. I see things like my thinking that's I did think about this wouldn't be good to know what communications went on between the CDC HHS State Department and these various governments as to what is the origin of this don't you think of me. I think the American people have a right to know is where is kind of a great war with the reg and I will call the Cold War but it's a very difficult situation with China right and we begin to these Confucius Institute will get back because you can't abide influence but go ahead. Why you'd be especially interested in what may be on Mr. Redfield communications were right. If he had these concerns while he was in this post, and if the bureaucrats were actually overruling Hannity. Another indication of the power of the deep state. The team is very busy day, but I do think we should probably look at that. Look, here's the thing I'm concerned about the J if this is the posture that we have were taking this approach on this issue because were afraid. It's units that Pres. Biden. Biden's China policy.

What if that posture leaks over intact. How were addressing their economic threat or their intellectual property threat Jake the ramifications is the way way way beyond her response to coven, but I could tell you, you know, our team put together a briefing paper process morning and this international team of this investigation is pretty clear what they're going to do so based on what we've heard so far. Expect the report will likely lend some credence to a link between wildlife farming and coven. 19 but without full evidence about exactly how the move from animals into humans might've occurred is the important part right that was happening think you want to know the answer to that right, but then I can have an answer for that, because we've heard from Redfield.

It doesn't make since it could happen that rapidly.

It would take much longer for that the virus develop to be that strong. It seems more like a lab created virus because it the strike that hit the world. It and it was still dealing with mutations as we speak today will take your phone calls to segment are coming up on secular 1-800-684-3110 if you were to talk to us on air 164, 31, two, don't forget to match challenge ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ matching challenge for every dollar you donate will be managed $10 gift becomes $20, $50 gift becomes 100 you can make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms to you and your family.

Give a gift today online ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow and now secular so that we have an you know if there was anything really to talk about Dubai's press conference at the affiliate site is that he be willing to wait out the filibuster and so he's no longer really holding back on that if you get the votes forward and that that remains to be a question though I will say that Joe mentions wife just got an appointment from Joe Biden's administration, $260,000 your job, which again is she someone who is consequently supported by the way she was that of the Board of Education of West Virginia and so it's always kind of been the drifting like situation, but again when you put your their wives in the ministration or husbands or whatever. Certainly you have a more influence may maybe think I try specially when it someone who tries to play that they're not immoderate that that that they are not totally in line with the Democratic Party would be different if he was the far left liberal, his wife at this position. So what, but he is someone who again is right so that that's the news there also the misleading numbers on the border that only 13% of the people across state have actually been removed and he said the majority or be removed. I think if I come in for some number they said having people stop before I get in things like that. Not a lot of news made there.

Other than that he hopes to run again for President in 2024. By the way, talked about the former President more than I've ever seen a current President do in my lifetime.

Certainly he loves to talk about trump. He's got the definitely TDS with the trip trump derangement syndrome. Still to this day I can't see him, and which is interesting since it that he sees one of the White House right now. I think what is important to focus on with this China issue is that we now have a four CDC director is not like someone in line which prompted his business people boarded for 10 year time. He did leave after the bite of his fish patrol person in that's fine they could do that now that he's free to talk. He is certainly telling the world a very different view of how he believes the virus spread and that we played it for everybody but did you see you understand.

He said he believes is out of the lab.

It was created to be stronger out of the lab, it was likely someone in the lab, took it out on it, intentionally or unintentionally carried out to the world because that's only way would be strong enough, it could beast that strong coming from the animal to a person, but the weather was intentionally or unintentionally, whether the lab created the COBIT virus to be able to work on the COBIT virus or whether is Mary said could end this again to speculation was a big to be a biological weapon. Here's the one thing that's really clear they were negligent, malfeasance, negligence, gross negligence in the way in which they did not disclose to the world was happening and that is where any legal issue arises issue joints that thrived well extensive and it's like the Chernobyl situation. The failure to disclose by the Communists about the meltdown of the planning Chernobyl lease of the Senate. These are the ways that the Communists operate and I'm not talking I'm in don't make me feel.

You sound like you know this is 1952 and I've seen the communist menace, but the condors Chinese Communist Party which is in control of this fascination with vast resources has got an agenda and the agenda is not to share with the world what is going on that is nefarious in my estimation within their labs and their production capability so secretary was intrastate my Pompeo Senior Counsel for the ACLJ global affairs was on this very broadcast is in working with our team on this and here's what he said now there's handful more piece of evidence to wish that the Chinese chemist party was capable of sharing this information will but you will know that's right just just like with Chernobyl.

Just like with communist regimes all along the closedown they disappear people who have the information.

The couple will solve this serious problem it. We had sizes coming out of China say they're lying to you and report discredited by our own media right and we'll we bought into the propaganda and I think the reason is because so many people are living. Their salaries are being inflated by having relationships with China and on about everything I combine family. You talk about that going all the way to investors and universities across the country who are educating your kids some time and that we come back on secular 164 30 wanted to talk to so there be a part of her matching challenge ACLJ that only goes to the entire month of March, starting today. W impact ACLJ.org the American Center for Law and Justice were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in Washington fighting to protect life reports and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes 20 $50 gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we simply would not occur without your generous take Courtney and her matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms most important to you. You forgive today online okay only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you personally.

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Hey Bill, welcome secular goal face-to-face count is evident totally out of the mouth of the Chinese that their pension is world domination right on every platform. I do not in any way that this virus bought a portion of that platform of their whether or not they knew related intentionally right Avenue belief that it came out was intentional or unintentional I could. I think there's evidence showing that they did not properly handle the transparency afterwards, which would save lives and not room so many global economies.

I think that's all true but you have to understand something a journal.

This will get into it right now. The Chinese government is using global domination.

They are on my Pompeo was set this to. They are on a 4.7 yesterday. Yes I said as gzip and told him on the file they want to be that of the world leader they would be the superpower, the world, so they make no mistake about this a talk with the computer center so these Confucius sinners are at universities all over the country and what they are, what they were beat other. They are funded by the Chinese government and they are set up as like nonprofits. They didn't provide grants to professors students to do research. So who do you who do get loyal to who's who's feeding your research programs feeding your grant. The Chinese government who are you not going to come out and say well they're committing genocide Chinese government who gets a talk about that.

If your scientist and your taking money from them yet to blame them for the virus to blame a bat and the Trump administration had a proposal going to the place that would required universities to start disclosing the therefore monetary ties. Where are you taking for money from Biden scrap that immediately what the binary fission rollback all that transparency that was put in place by the Trump administration to Tennessee and other states are following this to see if she got legislation through because of the governor Billy oppose legislation to the to the state legislators they put it through and it it it kicks these chart these Confucius Institute off of all of the campuses they can control they can control the private universities, but they can't control all the major state universities. They have kicked the Confucius Institute.

Off campus in Tennessee. Other states are doing this same thing there in the same process and Harry. I think this this is huge because this is where you get the experts and specialists who weigh in on everything from is a genocide to could have originated actually in a bat absolutely and you generate apologists for the Chinese regime and these apologize apologists are bought and paid for. If you will buy China, either directly or indirectly make all of the grant, but some might also call it a bribe and one of the things to keep in mind here is that the Biden administration, which lacks transparency with respect to the nations ongoing border crisis also does not favor transparency with respect to China, and China's ability to influence the United States and so the Biden family has to some extent acted as grifters with respect to the Chinese government and it's no surprise that the Biden administration is basically saying to the Chinese government come in again grants to American universities gain greater influence and I think as you rightly point out, Jordan. What is the objective of China domination and control and and we need strong action to oppose it. So I talked restaurant. Actually, here's what I don't understand there is not me. I realize that the Republicans will control either chamber so it's it's difficult but you would think that governments are government would want to get to the bottom of this and would like to find out what's happening now that this report that's going to come out from these field signs committee already know where this is going, and this is by no later the pundit was from the Confucius Institute but that's hyperbole.

I'm just saying that the fact is we don't know where this is going on this group and it doesn't look like it's gonna be real comparable lease with CDC director saying.

So what is Congress to hear what can the American people do that working to get the word find out what kind of communication we going I'm coming a normal reloading the Barb are for your team would increase the team because I'm coming up with coming up with new ones every day here but there's got there doesn't appear to be congressional action on this is what I'm saying. Well, there's a moral and a fiduciary obligation for there to be congressional office action here J but I would say the reason that you might not get that is if you have a infiltration into Congress and we know that that has happened jamming. We've we've been over the Eric's wall while Nancy Pelosi. Adam Schiff, story time and time again, but at the disincentive to crack down on foreign infant influence in our government would be ratcheted up. If you are one of the people that is compromised and so you're looking to the very people who have had ties with China or have family members on the payroll to come up with that action I JI just don't think that is can you get the job and I think it's can be incumbent on people like us and people like news media are willing to look into it to actually bring this into the light of day. I just don't see the initiative starting with Congress because they're Artie so compromise their 545,000 Americans that have died from this disease.

This virus that is ruined businesses all over the country. In fact all over the globe and then you have this international group that's put together and people that are concerned that it's not can be a real report also say I'm writing this plan a real-time research would be the next thing, but noted there's no guarantee future trips will find all the answers, but Andy we know who has the answers. The Chinese government were not going to inquire into the Moroccan impress them with the site or not, or whether you like it or not, this administration is not going to do with the Trump administration was doing.

It is soft on China. It has ties with the Chinese in the family connections. I know they do. There's no doubt about it. Look at this wall while talking about that I can get.

That's not forgets what we forgot to swallow completely. It's over with.

He had a Chinese operative in his office did need to tell anyone on the intelligence committee never was a Chinese operative also write Barbara fights is that all California and California politicians.

The Bay Area recruit outside my essay. How much influence and Pelosi also comes at a Bay Area so all the Northern California influence from China is very direct and eight-day air in full. They are buying their way in, but then often also infiltrating with their actors and then making no mistake about what they want to be. They want to be with the United States is and the question is are we get to stand up to it and I don't think there was a question about that.

Of the four years of the Trump administration. But now I mean I can imagine after that press comes yesterday.

Joe buys it into our phone call. Another mistranslation of them share with the Chinese. Present you think it's trace present can understand anything the Job. I was trying to get across to him if it was really just Job I'm talking it that much of it so garbled by the time it was translated that I think he was saying was what Joe by judge. He understands it. China need to strut these autocrats in the leaders and they need that their need them. Basically, there man with to get to operate the way they do. Meanwhile, the entire globe should still be outraged by my direct reports to you all seen them that there are still portions in the globe of sophisticated countries.

With sophisticated economies that are having to re-shut down Paris France absolutely so Germany I mean none of the pushback is been unreal, but the Germans are talking about the UK saying maybe May 21, we can start opening again, absolutely. And so what we have done is we've asked people in the Western world to put their lives on hold. Why because of a lack of transparency from the Chinese government and at the end of the day. The Chinese government.

I think benefits from this pandemic because it enhances and expands their control of the end of the world's economy.

So at the end of the day. This pandemic actually advances China's interest and then they continue to advance their interests through operatives that are connected to the so-called Confucius institutes which are really cover for grants and some might say bribes to American academics who continue and insist upon apologizing for China's misbehavior relentlessly and this needs to stop immediately. Second of folks as we go to the exit. We are taking phone calls 100 684 31 to the 2000 684-3110. Let me encourage you right now if you have a moment, and you're financially able right now in your position to do so. This is a great time to support the work of the American Center for Law and Justice at ACLJ.or you can double the impact of your donation. I weave a matching challenge. What that means a group of donors that have come together and said that we will match. Every donation comes through the month of March was that taking takes you take that first step you take that first step and donate $25 donors will match the $25 with a $50 for the ACLJ in it together. You can figure out the numbers from their donate online ACLJ.org West Smith's got a new piece up to on China.

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That is, the People's Republic of China military buildup in international waters threatening Taiwan human rights abuses on the mainland China oppression in Hong Kong, intellectual, thrift and Internet fraud, unfair trading practices where they use cheap labor and often forced labor to flood the market with inexpensive Chinese products and of course the whole coded 19 thing and concerning the World Health Organization as you've been discussing their credibility is in shambles, and there are two large reasons for that are more than two but one of them is the loan American who was on that investigator board for the World Health Organization is a guy named Peter � sick.

He is the President of the eco-health alliance from that alliance. His organization has received millions of dollars from from the virology lab and move on China right so let's go back and restate this because this is why you continue to listen as broadcast through every segment. What was to restate that this is our representative on this international committee right in this committee and their preliminary report says oh it did not come from Wuhan, China from the laboratory and here he concurs with that but peters doesn't get his name is the President of the eco-health alliance. His organization is the President has received millions of dollars from the Wuhan Institute of virology and of course you also have the fact that that director to address various who is the head of the World Health Organization was nominated for that position by the People's Republic of China as this is all going on.

Listen, it gets worse. China still to this day refuses to let international medical teams have access to their own documentation of the bars they had to this day refuse to let this board that is there with these gentlemen have access to the two labs in Wuhan when Chinese doctors tried to speak out about it last year. They were silent.

One of them was in prison who later died in here in the last few months. There were 18 international journalists in China to investigate the origins of the virus. China expelled every one of them.

Okay so you look at that person� Got a great article up will get this out on all our social media platforms to and you need it. You need to read. It is called the new China syndrome why the People's Republic of China should worry everyone but the violations of international law.

You're so clear and then as West is shared the reality that this whole board, making this investigatory board is nonsense.

Yes, it is the end and the idea that was your jury would have a great year I was your defendant is also funding your juror and all my witnesses are being paid by the defense and the judge is owned by the defendant, summing it said about Melissa's article which I've written is absolutely excellent Chinese expelled also for 18 foreign journalists and put limits on research into the outbreak and still prevents their scientists from speaking to reporters. This is just from Wes's article that I've just read the Chinese are not will not and and have never been transparent. They are not going to allow inquiries into the origins of this virus they put on the board this guy get braces which Wes points out as an Ethiopian who is not a medical doctor. He is the head of the World Health Organization and as Wes has pointed out, has a long-standing relationship with whom senior leaders of the Chinese government and the World Health Organization delayed revealing the initial outbreak of the virus last year at whose request China's request. What are we doing here today.

You know doing nothing, letting them do this.

So if you don't think there's influence of the Chinese government.

The stuff wake up folks know where to do something because then you're telling me that basically Congress is a no go on this does not happen. I think Congress is a no go. I might add something though JI think we are doing something, I think by demonstration is choosing to rejoin the World Health Organization, which is the entity who is advancing falsehoods because the people that initiated those falsehoods are on their payroll. JI think our role is finding out why they're doing that and who by the way is still there in the administration advancing that theory drink politically and then I got a course was politically you would think this would be a big issue I think that what's happened though is that while it's a big issue for our audience is listening in on this when you get to business leaders. You get to not just politicians, business leaders and even medium-size businesses I'm talking about. They might get apprehensive when you say rent cut out your cut off your biz with China that that's really see the criticism leading to his right ultimately to to to slay the dragon if you will get to cut yet you have to cut off its sources of income and source of income are directly flowing from the all the goods in the United States that scares big business medium business small business manufactures people who import parts from manufacturing and so suddenly you get these stories that pop up. There's not a lot of follow-up and and and and there's not a lot of they are there and I think it's because people get nervous when you say we need to cut it's not like cutting off Iranian exactly. So Wes based on your research and your analysis. What is our riskier great risk, and as Jordan is indicated in this.

It appears that our business leaders and our political leaders are not willing to confront the risk. It has risk economically.

Our national security and assist earlier just the world order and we are not willing to take a stand on mentioned the Confucius Institute.

You know Pres. Biden could take a stand on that. The Senate passed that bill your by what to call it and reconciliation silicate will not reconciliation but was unanimous approval and Nancy Pelosi refuses to bring it up on the house floor. They do not want to take a stand against China because a lot of it is about the bottom line. So that is just as we just need to know this is the Chinese government almost be untouchable here. Well, sure. I mean J weight when you can get a spy into the office of the sitting Congressman.

I don't think that's an outlandish statement to make any needed the very people that you're looking to in Congress to provide a strong response are themselves compromise so until you expose enough of them, and you have a majority that can actually do something about their own members.

I think it's outlandish to say that you can't trust them to respond look China is trying to become the world superpower. The current world superpower United States. They're the only ones I can stop that we have to hold ourselves accountable first, and I don't see that happen inside the house represented you do that when you guide them up really quick and in the door and went to the closing up really quick and how you do that when your jury witnesses are all paid for by the Chinese government. Well, the answer is they don't own right. I mean, you know I have to find out how we gotta find out what the what the ties are working to do that. That's with the ACL. Jade is working to find out what's going on here can take time, take efforts, take legal work will find out what's going on is support the work of ACLJ you matching challenge continues throughout the entire month of March just outside double the impact of your financial support for the ACLJ ACLJ.or donate today that ACLJ.org and double the impact of your donation. This is a important time to support the work.

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