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Debate Analysis : Chaos Erupts In Cleveland

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This is Logan Sekulow takeover Jay Sekulow live and you are talking about the fallout from the first debate my Jay Sekulow live in China and later Joe about 2 million people.

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One 800-6801 10 funding the nightly that is not because of any law he has no law or site is almost name one group that supports you. One group became unsupported. We have done we don't have time to do a law enforcement group back and I want to get now, your host will God praise and radio show takeover of J secular logs Logan Sekulow your body will Haynes, one of the producers ear and out were talking about the fiery, but mostly I have seen it last night. Probably you did the early regular coming is not great sort of cover that rigid phone calls assuredly about your thoughts on this debate one, we will never forget. Andrew joined the next segment by Rick Grenell.

He, gives his analysis on that as well as other topics well but I think we got it get straight to it. The night kicked off with a bag if you want to know you got to go back and look there's an interesting fact. We need to start with how the chaos started right.

The original originator. Could you maybe was not drug but actually the first person you said interrupt to stop that two minute of uninterrupted behaviors with uninterrupted speeches and getting rid interrupt the best way to it actually got kicked off by Joe, but that's right so this was Pres. Trump was talking about his nomination of Amy Tony Barringer, Texas got a boring 10 minutes and this is a snoozer there's there's not a lot of jazz is lower talking but then not present. Trump is talking this is like five let's go ahead and play it because you'll hear who initiates the interruptions okay.

Justice Ginsburg said very powerfully very strongly at some .10 years ago or so she said a President in the Senate is elected for a period of time, but a President selected for four years were not elected for three years.

I'm not elected for three years so we have the Senate we have a President elected to the neck during that period of time during that period of time.

We have an opening. I'm not elected for three years, elected for four years is like it is Artie started, the got back she had got little going to check you said you know you're elected till the next election.

I will well that's not how this works and after that it went crazy because it was the first initial takeoff point. A lot of the good a lot of fire thrown a President trumpet look that was it was a very chaotic night and we want to walk away from this saying you know it was clear winners and losers in theirs. Didn't you know that you may be playing a little too close. I have a clear loser. No, I think there was one clear loser. That was the moderator Chris Wallace Chris Wallace epic fail Chris Wallace. What a disaster to cast a substantive question. The entire time. A lot of theoretical allow thrown out, and then you know it would not take control would try but would fail miserably.

So I do feel like you Chris Wallace I does not come out of this looking good and I don't like the whole night was just a mess. I thought there was going to get corrected. There's one moment like okay now were on the right track and then went to chaos, kind of. Again, from both sides and talk about that more we get back out phone lines are like not the horse we want to hear from you because matters is what you have to say the American people 1-800-684-3110 get 100-684-3110 we get back from the break we join by Rick Grenell. He said to give us his thoughts will not only on the debate but on a couple other topics as well. Letter from the director of national intelligence that was sent to the Senate Judiciary committee learned about that in the next segment as well. I think this is probably see that pricing around the Internet. Question talk about that it's it's a pretty big deal, right back secular reprogram takeover challenges facing Americans as time went on more freedom and sort constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to stay with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades on the front lines protecting your freedoms and rights in courts in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success. The bottom line we could not do more work without your support, we remain committed to protecting your religious and constitutional freedoms that remains our top priority, especially now during these challenging times. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side you're already a member. Thank you for your thoughts. Well, this is the perfect time to stand with us ACLJ God where you can learn more about her life changing, member today ACLJ only one.

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As we said that first segment got kicked off first 10 minutes or so both of us were texting back and forth to me like okay you know I don't know is not the substance but you know it. It's good to call the client and then within 15 or 20 minutes after that within the first hour and kinda broken off into chaos. We did chaos and I look I was looking through social media from both sides. Obviously, most of my friend love my friends more Leo the conservative side, but I deftly have plenty of liberal friends and they they had a lot to say but both I think everyone kinda can agree that this is a very unique debate, one that will remember forever, and one that will not necessarily go down as is a great debate in American history will be one that we remembered for the for the disruption of the Caswell a couple takeaways I had were one.

I think that in a sense it was very much a picture of what you see on Facebook. What you see with the divisions in the country that there were especially in the analysis. The postdebate analysis because there were people on both sides that would point to. I thought Biden did great and was really respectful and held his own, but Trump was terrible in then vice versa.

Trump was great.

He was prepared he was.

He had to fight against the moderator and that but Biden was terrible and I think that's just kind of the picture of where our two-party system is right now.

There's a lot of of division.

As far as policy, and it I don't think that if you are a Trump supporter or a Biden supporter, you were necessarily swayed by that style of the debate now takes on the moderator and I would say that Natalie got swayed. I think that that all-important vote right now it is you see is your social media skip telling you to register to vote. I'm sure most of our listeners are registered to vote, or those that haven't. This is not a good thing for those who are not used to voting this may not give you a good reason to go out to the polls. I think you watched it, you're probably confused disturbed baby and and and there's probably some things that upset you. Obviously the ratings are starting to come into resort to see how people respond. I think it's pretty interesting. We are joined by Rick Grenell who is a the special advisor for national security and foreign policy is that we all know of Rick's connections what's happening right now and I want to give you a chance to speak. Let us know what you thought about that debate last night. It was obviously one that got many of us will not forget know all I just have to say I watched it here in California with some of my neighbors who are liberals are left people who don't support Trump couple who do support, mostly people who don't have to tell you that there where a variety of women who are very concerned about law enforcement yes and sell like the real directness of President Trump same look. I am not going to put up with this. This is coming to the suburbs and Joe Biden's inability to talk and articulate that he is focused on law and order. He couldn't say the words he didn't know any longer, so agencies that endorsed him this run really strongly with these women and I and I have to say after the debate, talking to them a couple of them were just saying you know I'm getting nervous about the recklessness and the rioting and I will for safety and law enforcement. I think this is a winning issue for Trump. I think he hit it out of the park. Lastly, I'll just say this I fell like you know the whole Biden message that he's Presidential imploded because he is the one who lost his cool four times.

He said you know shot right or you're a racist or we said he was actually the first person to interrupt. If you look where the interruption starts with the chaos breaks out is in those two minutes, which was uninterrupted first person to break out of that was your bike be brought about law and order segment and will we were talking about this. Go back and forth. I isolate that 10 minutes whatever it was about that.

It was an excellent I think debate to the general for both. I think we did not one side but at least there was some interesting banter back and forth through some substance there by the present Trump did come out very strong in that moment because you have eyes you said a moment where we couldn't date the Job. I could not name a police union or support it back to him. You also had a present Trump site. We have to stop this. We have to put it into the rides.

I think that does resonate with a lot of people resonates with me as someone is a family man to the suburbs. It does resonate. I think that that was the moment I could just take out 10 minutes. I think a lot of people if you can isolate that 10 minutes in and watch it.

It would change a lot of people's minds on on where the country should be had. I think what we also have to remember is that Washington DC is a mass it's got its own rules. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Job. I have been there for 40+ years. They don't like the outsider downtime coming in and so for 40 years downtime has been trained to be a fighter and he's fighting for.

So the interrupt he's gonna push back, but you play by the Washington rules. If you play by what they want you to do them. Publicans are super nice and we lose, I think.

Good point, which I heard some people, like will generally feel like the Trump was the incumbent here.

Well, look at the situations he's been put in and look at the way the media has necessarily treated him and treated the whole administration. It's not like you're coming into a friendly audience in income but for years.

This is a this is somewhat hostile territory. Well, that's right. And I didn't want to move on the little from the debate are Rick because there's another big news item that we have to have we gotta talk about it when you're here, I will let you alleges that that's right.

Last night, the director of national intelligence at a job that you're familiar with. I'm certain classified letter and send it over to Senate Judiciary Committee about allegations, the intelligence agencies were aware of in 2016 that it was Hillary Clinton who approved the campaign plan to pin AA collusion narrative between the President and Russia and that even Obama was briefed on that by the CIA director Brandon and I also think only instruct may have had some insight into this. How important is this J James narrative completely wrecked yeah this is important, even calling it from the beginning and let me just be there with our with our listeners and viewers from the very beginning of this Russian collusion narrative investigation. There are several career intelligence officials from the very beginning to look at the information that I think Russia knows about this and is pushing propaganda into your investigations, you're taking this propaganda through but they knew early on that the Russians were into the steel dossier into Hillary looking for dirt and so what if they do they bad into the steel dossier in the Hillary Clinton opposition research. But here's the key. Our intelligence agency officials who run the CIA. Call me and DOJ and the FBI.

All of these individuals new that the Russians were were pushing propaganda and yet they didn't want that out there. They wanted Hillary and others to continue with these false narratives because it was negative against, and so despite the fact that our intelligence officials knew that the disinformation was from the Russians from the beginning, and these were real hits by silencing those people cosseting an insane you know. Hey I have a red flag on this. This is Russian propaganda comments from career intelligence officials classified their comments and file them away.

This came from the very top to to do the American people and to be honest, we don't know to this day, Hillary Clinton knew from the beginning that this was Russian disinformation. Either way, she ran with it are intelligence officials knew that she was pushing a false story, but they let it go because it was hits on Tron and then they had all of this kind of hoax stuff together to continue going after Tron spine on his campaign and in the final point that I have to make is when from one when Pres. Trump one and we knew he was coming into the White House and we were supposed to have a peaceful transition. They got more aggressive going after Flynn and others because they they didn't want a peaceful transition. They wanted to sully all of the Trump people. I think it's outrageous. People need to be held to account. Absolutely Rick and I think this is the story that never ends. This is the ongoing Russia your story that will I feel it will go 30 years from now.

You uncovered a classified document as it does feel like the story that we really because wrapped up three or four times now over the course of many years now continues to unfold and you brought up for the debate. Something is true that you have to fight back. We have to have that the person that you got look at the policies. If you watch the debate.

If you are probably the style, whatever. But look at the policies look if they match up to your personal worldview and I think that is a big part of, curious of our listeners thoughts on that because beyond a fiery debate. There are clear policy differences.

Nothing a lot of us a lot of us agree with them according to the President by well will be right back to join as we appreciated protection because we only want a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice. Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying the American Center for Law and Justice right to life. We've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission will show you how you are personally publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later, when Obama care means many ways your membership is empowering the right question mission life today online/challenges facing Americans constitutional rights are under attack more important than ever to consider for Law and Justice on the frontlines protecting your freedoms and rights in courts and Congress and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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Hillary program take over Jay Sekulow live talk debate coverage. Thanks Ricardo for poppet by online via Skype chat about debates as well as a fun Russia Hillary stuff was when I wanted to go straight to the phone calls because look, I think really kidding ourselves if we are not good or if were not addressed that the debate was chaotic and was a bit crazy and had a lot of issues, whether that be the moderator that be the candidate. It was an intense, intense night and I really want to be here what you all have to say and let you speak. Let's go in order of wait time. Well, let's go first to Scott is in Colorado going to Scott you're on Jay Sekulow live in the reprogram takeover welcome okay yeah I think that I call you my commented that what they sandbox it is true that the best referee than the one you don't know.

Are there walls that an awful job know then when I get really the upper hand was well-prepared anyway got know when you going against two opponents, but I think loss tactic with the option to add to the kind of the parent of top of the Candidate, but I think PeopleSoft knew that the no-trump of the integrated solid leader just like they know that if the Biden voters and Democratic cities that are causing the Country and they wanted to see a street fighter. It reminds us of why we voted for Trump in 2016 that's that's over over examine over analyze looking at this, but Scott, you supported the President you came that you enjoy what you thought your excited. I think you are right Chris Wallace to put interns put himself over.

We try to become the star wrestling to wrestling return for this trying to get himself over.

He was trying to come the person the middle of the show. I do feel like that happen multiple times. Even the reacting or laughing or or making fun of the candidates respond. I thought that was inappropriate in the right.

He did not fade into the background somewhat because I was. They broke into chaos and try to figure out what to do. This is a guy who's known for his got your questions and interviews and what really really disappointed me with Chris Wallace was read these questions, maybe someone should have Chris Wallace because you didn't ask a whole lot of substance, and that was really deeply disappointing as we had one opportunity for the first Presidential debate. Who knows if will be another two debate setting is there. I see the schedule right now there's a lot of discussion at the end whether that was good to be the it for because it was so chaotic, but you had your first opportunity.

See these guys go head-to-head and you didn't even ask questions of true substance well into your point is well Chris Wallace before the debates had put out there like I want to be invisible exactly what I call righteous talking about. I don't want to be noticed. I wanted to highlight the two people while his format was awful. Frankly, it was two minutes of uninterrupted.

Then a kind of vague generic vague open discussion which may know, since that was all up to him. It was a subjective open discussion because when he decided he didn't like the angle of quote open discussion and a lot of times. That was when Pres. Trump started to go on the offensive against Joe Biden, but to be fair, he didn't cut off Joe Biden. Many times wells and give the President's chair minutes but that was when he lost total control over Leslie's his flaw was the way he designed the debate was more than just we know that he asked the gotcha questions a lot and we know that he has a different sort of bias or self yeah it is her ratings. It's designed for people to watch and enjoy it.

I think people thought what they wanted with a fiery chaotic battle one-on-one I don't think that's with the American people really want to what we wanted was substance.

You have a fiery and exciting and tough debate while actually discussing the real issues as I thought the law and order segment that whole 10 minutes or so, where they went back and forth again whether you agree with Pres. Trump or Joe Biden thought there were some substance there they at least express their opinions well, but other than that it was pretty rough and we have some some comments from there, let's go ahead before you will talk about that later segment.

Let's take some phone calls like has been holding for a long time reverting Colorado line 1 you are all everything I had to say back from Paula to me there and make the way they planted there wouldn't be any more debate you completely change in the state that you have covered it perfectly. I was sad that they were behaving like ninth grade boys fighting over girl really feeling you know it was doubly personal but they wanted so that there wouldn't be any more debate. I don't maybe so will what that theory. Well, you know, I think that if there are no more debates what will see is the Biden campaign try to capitalize on the narrative post debate and we know that Nancy Pelosi was already kind of floating that narrative like he should say one date with him. He shouldn't, you know, to legitimize the President with a conversation so I could see the Biden campaign trying to be another debate. I think there should be more structured. I think it should be like the traditional two minutes to you one time a minute for a bottle and then a flip-flop of the question. If I was the President I would only do Joe Rogan is moderator and I would only do it a three hour format. I would do if long form interview style format. Really, what would your grandma that I would do it. I would say Joe Rogan's podcast are in the world. Maybe one of the UI. That's a guy who somewhat was a burning guy but also is been a conservative a lot issues a true moderate and I guy with more influences and more listeners than any of these people have on your on your local news in your your TV channels in your table. There's of what you actually get true eyeballs and ears on and I went what I really want. It was really disappointing is we talked about whether I know Joe Biden wanted three breaks.

I do think it would've been helpful if there was a bright go the restroom somewhere in this thing.

But I also help of it was double the amount of time and this is common in from Facebook. This is from Richard and he says not to be a contrarian. But what I was watching showed the President could not stop interrupting.

And here's what's interesting in this goes back to what I was saying about.

It's kind of sure are a perfect picture of our society right now that if you have kind of a predisposed side you are seeing more.

The good as opposed to the other end. Richard that was what was so surprising to me because I probably would've said present Trump was very aggressive he did jump, and he tried to push on the little shady little too much but when I went back as I listen to.

I watched it once in and listen the whole thing.

The cut up bikes for the show today so I watched her three hours of this debate last night and what I saw was it was very much, Joe Biden. It was a strategy he started early and he was going very specifically and he actually went pretty -1st economy clown. He said will you shut up when the President had open time and then that's when it was like the President was like okay you know what if this is how were going to be better at this than you. This is this is my will.

If you want to go just sling and at each other and who can win. I'm going to help do you win this and he did, but I think that it was tactical by the by the Biden campaign because they started that entire narrative early in the debate when it was pretty pretty peaceful in an end-all to some degree the first 10 minutes was just very stoic telephone calls. I still come here that's what hundred 684-3110 Ricky discussing the debate Roscoe to discuss a few other topics here and there but willing to stick to the bait for the most part placing clips, phone calls over those of losers who don't have is for the full hour of Jay Sekulow live this Logan Sekulow reprogram will I do this each and every day to find on YouTube YouTube.com/Logan Sekulow reprogram slip for my channel and subscribe Logan Sekulow can we do it each and every afternoon.

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There was, I think it was more pushing like oh are you with the left base, or are you this washing was just say it say it. You said no you can't say don't say you need to say that it was a lot of that and that's honestly with my big take away a negative when I look at look at it now, I don't think we want to this debate saying you know there was a home run.

It wasn't exactly what we wanted to make general, not just from conservative liberal Democrat, I do have to think as a lot of our listeners are Christians, a lot of listeners are conservative, you do want to look at it go okay well if this is the chaos represents the policies that you support and I think we could tell you about forward with new, but I will tell you that it is very difficult for me to get behind some of the chaos that is suing the street.

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We return the calls will take a lot of those in the next segment so I know I've been holding for a long time. Will try to as many as possible. Just like the debate I would hope we would have more substance it will. I think we can talk more about some of the good that came out of this again. At least some of the, the real meat of the scenario is not the gotcha questions.

This was will talk a bit about the 10 minutes or so. That said, we were texting back and forth this in the moments that I hope get replayed and this was all on the present ops even put pitching a law and order real point of view.

This I see a response he ran in 2016. A lot of this is about the direct stuff.

A lot of it was in response to what's been happening in the streets of America. Whether to protest the riots really the destruction and you go back and forth, then we should play some of this well.

I knew hear the difference point of view.

I think it's pretty stark yet in this is by 40 the President and this was in that open discussion portion, but it was also towards the end of the debate when they were more lively, jabbing back and forth with the President was was trying to get Joe Biden to respond to a question about law enforcement support of your candidacy. Let's go ahead and play by 40 been talking about artists that's what I what I that is funding that I lay that is not true.

He doesn't have any law he has no law enforcement is almost over a hoodia name one group that supports you name one group that came out and supported you think we have time we don't have time to do a timelines law enforcement group to take back… And I want to get thanks Chris Wallace interrupt you know that's where it… I gotta say this is what you do watch it go. This is one side against the other in its 911 because that was a moment in actual debate by leaving with permitted high school to bake college debate debate class those of the moment you're looking for, which is can you get them on something which the President had backed into a corner because he said, is there one police organization law enforcement initiative that show their support for you and he could name one that we don't have time to get on this backup to target the microphone on the star here. You know when that's enough with this crap. This is when you watch this and have to go. I can't take it anymore. All of it is chaos.

This thing erupted into chaos and it was planned the whole time. Whether you like it or not.

Again, you have to start looking at what the words are actually being spoken and where you line up as a human being right with not much else to put specifically knowing that I sent you near the end because Chris Roth. I beg about my job. What you came up job as well.

If you like that for a minute, let them flounder out there.

But before Job I completely embarrasses himself and proves that he is out there saying stuff that is completely against what most people think most people, by the way, I truly believe and I would hope you will find some kind of law enforcement in their society. Am I the biggest like proponent of all of therapy, like I think there's all good… I but I do think that there is a lot of America who is scared a lot of Americans that once more enforcement to see some of the top cities burning. They are not responding and when they see such a direct response in such a hidden gang of the situation that it that they have to to see the light well. Also, you mentioned the law and order and how people sent you, but there was a moment that brought up about NT for now that's that's something that a lot of people talk about are concerned about. But this is a very specific moment of this bite that I want to ring back because it reminds me of something else from the Obama Biden administration that I want to bring up let's go ahead and play by 42. Somebody's got to do something about NT for and the left because this is not a right as well. Robin is is I levy I direct this as a rights versus and chief is an idea, not an organization got inoculation that is tonight at the AI FBI director said that were done sir. The fact that Joe Biden is trying to drill down on NT foot is an idea. This is not an organization that reminds but 10 years ago this May 26 of 2010, John Brennan, he gave a speech talking about the, the President present Obama at the time he is like worldview about the war on terror things that we were fighting we are fighting wars at this time in Afghanistan and Iraq.

You know, and it was a direct relation of the terror attacks on the United States and 911 and he said that he said the President strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic.

Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind is that language remind you of anything.

It reminds me of Joe Biden think NT 5 is an idea or not an organization is a calculated line. They have these very like like ideas about rats like people are trying to get the thief about what why does that come up in conversation. He didn't say thank you for real have to vote absentee because you know they're going to each city on the U-Haul we requested their mail-in ballots already insane. It's insanity.

And folks, this is that we folks I was an Jay Sekulow reference.

When you look at this big picture.

I think we can all get very critical articles with excitement. We ought be pretty disheartened. You can watch the debate unfold and feel chaos inside of you feel stress. There were moments I was not thrilled with on both sides are there moments that I feel like we may be able to pinpoint an election goes one way or the other were moments that people either turned off the TV, lost interest and we played many of those today. There's a lot more but I want to take your phone calls and next time I get the point here from the American people and what they have to say anything here about the site. When I look at a big picture and I thought this honestly my whole political voting life, which is that no one is perfect. There is no perfect candidate at the end of the day.

These are two men who are both once been a politics of what is been in business they've both been through a lot the last year that chaotic mess of the debate kind of summarizes how we've all felt this year so look at policy and look for your faith and where your your opinions matchup and I think that's what's important.

It's not about supporting a Republican or Democrat, but it is supporting essentially at this point if you're disheartened if you watch that debate. I can think a lot of people probably didn't said, I'm talking about not getting out there voting I'm done which I am afraid of honesty after watching that there are a lot of people who were those those millions and millions of people who don't vote who watch that said, I'm not. I'm not interested to know not voting. I think you have to look beyond the person at this point will I get to look to the person and into the policy and really does that policy matchup with your worldview.

I know personally. It will be very difficult for me. Look, there are plenty there other candidates. The President drop Kanye West under the black there's a lot of people on the ballot who are pro-life. It would be very difficult for me personally to ever rationalize voting for someone who is as aggressively pro-choice and that didn't come up in the debate and honesty. That was a big bummer for me very briefly early on when they talk about Amy Barrett in the days that she wants the baby will overturn Roe versus Wade into the President's response was even like you know what she's going to think he said it wasn't on the ballot the present thing that's not on the ballot. Music motives because your Supreme Court nominee. It was very convoluted, but I was on the ballot is the Triton trying to base and say that trying to conflate two different issues and say that know it is on the ballot. Even though voting for Joe Biden wouldn't necessarily if that were theoretical. That's what's can happen. That's not what you are voting for November is nothing to do with two separate issues right and it is two separate issues. I wish they had gotten to wish they had talked about it more.

I wish they had brought up stuff like the Ralph norm of the situation and the infanticide that's happening. Those are important issues.

I think I sadly due to the failure of Chris Wallace. I didn't, did become discussion points things I really feel passionately about, and I sat there for an hour and 1/2 wait for them, and instead all it was was theoretical questions, say you didn't die this say you like this. Do you have any police force is just goes back and forth, back and forth, back and forth with no real meat of the discussion on issues that are important specifically to people like you who listen to our show and have a passion about the issues that we discussed here every day and I think last week when you had some like Amy Barrett. There was a lot of hope that this would become a talking point. I counted the Odyssey. I wish the President had gone deeper into that said, you know what were supporting a big portion of the country that believe that abortion is murder. We are trying to put forth a plan for them and as a voter again like I said I can't. I can't participate here in your you lose me completely with your space in your top talk about them.

It should be mentioned overturning Roe versus Wade you by the first 15 minutes sorry you lost me not say a vote for Donald Trump not say a vote of Joe Biden latte with I cannot see myself a lot of chaos would have to consider from you ever cast a ballot like that should be for most Christians out there to support someone is pro-choice as aggressively as they are not a life of the mother. The exceptions, someone who is leave the baby so I feel it really upset me that they really did get into that kind of discussion or any of that mean in this in this debate really taking phone calls we get back.

I want to hear what you say I'm not taking the moderator chair back like this only one.

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You're on the people think. For a long time coming out last night, as some have already said I nearly turned it off and on cured up. Actually I thought it was the complete audit adapter. I thought by lot like I watched former like Pres. Biden gives out false information and lied and I felt really bad for our current President not being able to keep point until I get from trying to say if I would like to see the debate structure change.

I think it should be a minimum like you are wrong.

30 minutes for each topic or topic and give each candidate 15 minute platform to articulate.there was never battle that night and I thank interrupted quite often. I doubt that he made some key point in one of the ones that I think it's going to think out for me as well is better in I done more in 4947 famous now I Joe Biden has been elected off official and bitter politics for 20% of the entire timeline of our country of the United States of America and we look at his record, I I would agree with you Linda.

I really agree with you in terms of debate format. I think that we live in a longform society we live in a world where people listen to a lot of longform podcast and radio shows a go on 345 were not were not accustomed to that point. This point were accustomed to longform educational attainment if you well and I think that that is important part of this is that I feel like it's a broken model. It's a model that feels very much of a time when TV would go off at 9 o'clock at night to play the national anthem if that's what it feels like it feels like a bygone era there. Some of that. That's nice because there's tradition, but I think somewhat the tradition does need to change if you're going to have a conversation like this that there's not enough time 90 minutes is just simply not enough time to have any real debate and I agree with her I did to it especially. She brought up.

There was no rebuttal, and I think that was a little bit what kept tripping up both the candidate they wanted to respond to all these debates where if someone mentions you or does a direct parallel jellies get 30 seconds to respond and so they were trying to do that just naturally was reflexive and the moderator. In most cases, except for a few times he decided to let Joe Biden glad they wouldn't allow the rebuttal or the response when there was a direct attack. Sometimes falsely direct attack late attacking the other opponent and so I think that was a very big issue that that really drugged down the debate and just caused it to turn into the fighting in the bickering because they were just trying to retort and that's natural in the debate was keep going. I actually got a few minutes and we got a lot of calls let's go next to Mary Scalia Texas Mary, welcome my mind that I have a little bit different tank.

I think it Needs to expect that the format will be against him and I think it can be worse in the next two debate got to stay on point. I mean I have a lot of Democrat friends and family members forced them to watch the debate so that they could learn what his problem live his accomplishments to date out here on MSNBC and CNN and all the Democrat network but he was so combative and he couldn't stay on point is to get out there. I agree with you. I wish you would've highlighted more of the positive instead of just being on the attack. I think there is a defensive situation there will when immediately you are under attack right now. He's good that is going to hit back typically and he's been on the defensive for four years begat what happened years before he would have been elected, they were using the FBI to investigate so this is a guy who I guess I didn't really feel like your typical incumbent President, but he hasn't felt like a typical President to begin with. This summit is been under attack. His entire run.

There's been no real peace and I told you what we were doing the show. It always feels like were an election cycle is not like it used to be where we did a show redo it year on the election become go back into our normal everyday life and some of that has to do with their connections. In the end of the guess Ray will have on and all that but some past due mainly with the fact that this is been an ongoing situation for six years is headphone still try to get there. We have three minutes let's go to the knothole below the logs Marsha online one Marshall welcome quickly on the air and thank you for holding everybody for nothing.

I'm going to make a point.

There was a lot of hypotheticals. There is a lot of it theoretically if this was to happen. This is how I may respond if the coronavirus it happened while I was President. This is maybe how I would've done it better to let up slightly talk about that you brought up early on will the fact that Joe Biden and Pelosi and I will worry were dancing to Chinatown and one that whole deal to not close off to try to keep the virus at bay and Chris Wallace would not really respond to that and I really would love to see the direct response Joe by instead of just a man and there also were a lot of words and techniques that we discussed on the reprogram before that when you call someone a racist or if you called them and liar. It shuts down debate in Biden was using those rhetorical devices constantly. He said you've done nothing but lie.

You are a racist you are.

He said shut up, man.

You're a clown when you start using those attacks direct the longer debate yet is a civil conversation. After that right exactly moving on, let's go Terry Florida line for Terry.

Welcome by talk about it while nobody why would we vote for the American people about you prep for that one question for why people should vote for a lot of it is betting on the fact that I tried to be the alternative to tropical you hate all of this you love me well in a lot of times when you see an election that is purely trying to be a referendum on someone when it is all about the incumbent and not about the candidate himself or herself what you end up seeing is that that's almost like that no news is bad news are all news is good news kind of situation where if the focus is primarily on the incumbent, and that's all.

Even your negative attention elevates them in the conversation and that could be a tactical error for the Biden campaign. I want to thank all of you for listening to the Logan Sekulow reprogram today. It is been a wild one, and we appreciate your coming, your debate is on a replacement comment below. Tell us your feelings are your thoughts on the debate social media teamwork on sorry go through and keep working. But I appreciate everyone who listens.

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