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Breaking news forward Atty. Gen. Ron Rosenstein Grell on Capitol Hill.

Live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow have you looked at the Horace report. Yes I have with seven if you knew then what you know now, would you have signed the worn application no phone lines are open for your questions right now: 1-800-684-3110. In light of all the Brady material that is finally been released.

It's clear you were misleading me Congress and the American people.

When you suggested that we should be satisfied with Flynn's plea agreement, and now your host Jordan secular today on Capitol Hill. Rod roasting that he's not a former general. But remember, for the purposes of appointing Bob Muller and the rush investigation.

He was the acting Atty. Gen. he was that the buck stops with him when he came to the Department of Justice decisions and the decisions of the FBI. By the way, and he is playing a game on Capitol Hill were basically he is admitting and I I try to predict this every time the producer will this morning even before that, he would basically say he didn't actually read anything and that if you actually listen closely.

That's what he say he what he didn't really pay attention. It was the most high-profile case, but they have other cases of course they did but not involving as you heard a sinner. Holly just say it in the committee that that not involving the present United States being accused of being a Russian asset no and Ron Rosenstein just set personal trip to really big takeaways here. One is if he knew what he knew what he knows now the information is now if he knew it then he would never sign the Pfizer war you know what that tells me that tells me nobody was paying attention, including right Rosenstein's what was going on. That's number one number two and then when he reviewed the Pfizer he hesitates well. I like say I read every word of it or Word for Word you are issuing a Pfizer on an individual who was associated with the campaign of the President of United States and you didn't have time to read the file you didn't have time to review the entire Isa clarifies work, but the information has now if he would've had it then you would've never done it. The question is why did they not have it then because they were too busy chasing a bogus fraud on the American people called the Muller report and it was self-justification.

That's all this water leak at the end of the day. We also knew army he's he's admitted under oath now and I testified under oath that he was actually specially briefed on the specific Pfizer. We know that these Pfizer's failed in the past. Now that we know that we also have it so so he knew this was coming.

He even said in his testimony and outgoing Amanda here and he said his testimony that he knew this Pfizer was coming. He was briefed on it that was unique.

Usually he would not.

Usually, was the final kind of stop and it would go through all the verification before, but in this one.

He was uniquely responsible. Personally, I think Sen. Holly's right.

He just testified he believed Rod roasting should be held accountable for everything. Bob Muller did and everything all the wrongdoing, the FBI, but I think he should. He said he to the goes through about 70,000 Pfizer warrants in the department, but this only paid special attention to. He said because it was such a hyperbole obviously did not pay special attention to it. Only he would've looked behind the words of the agents who prepared the document and put it before him much more deeply and much more thoroughly than he did.

So when you do when someone has to be accountable for for the issuance of the warrant before the the court so that the court could ultimately make make the warrant outstanding. You gotta say that it's Ron Rosenstein who who bears the ultimate responsibility here, but I want to say something that that really quickly and it would apply to Robert and we come back yet but I gotta say something because I agree with what you said and what Andy said. I mean this guy was the acting Atty. Gen. United States.

Glasses of this good at reading things yet not having that I didn't like one can say read every word you signed and affidavit submitted to a court and you didn't read every word and you unleashed on the American people you appointed Bob Muller, you unleashed on the American people a three year investigation, shame on you right Rosenstein-Siu Québec will take your phone calls your questions, one 800 684 31 two that's 100-684-3110. Be right back on Jay Sekulow challenges facing Americans are substantial time and are now in our freedoms, our constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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Is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally pro-life that supports the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist the ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the end what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/Jay Sekulow secular. Take your phone calls, one 800 684 31 two that's what hundreds escape or 3110 which it was this question again this year for going on since it was at 9 AM. He 10 AM Eastern time and space in which we go to you get to the sitters now which of us is Sen. Lindsey Graham is the chairman of the judiciary committee with this question about Rosenstein relying on Andrew McCabe's information provided to them. Take a listen by 21.

How much did you allow Mr. K's statements to sign the warrant. How much did that factor into whether or not you… One application was accurate regarding the warrant application center. I wouldn't say that I relied on Mr. McCabe's statements. I certainly had an understanding of what Mr. K Michaela told me that the the document stands for itself as 100 pages and I relied on what I understood to be in the application begin their hedging things.

He got a summary for somebody staff you won't name those folks but if he doesn't I think you know this is somewhat again. He's he's tried to have it both ways with lobbies committees try to get in a note that this doesn't come back on him, but it certainly, the buck stops with him will look he was the person in charge of it.

He could say wasn't, but he was in this idea that he was while I was I really looking at the stop and I and a lot of other responsibilities did you have any other responsibilities that were a higher priority than investigation of the sitting President of the United States. I don't think you did. So what we have. That's what it look at here, Rod unleashed this investigation. He allowed Muller to continue to expand and they knew so early on that the information they had was a fraud. That's what so the irony of all of this is they knew within months they had nothing.

Just like in general. Flynn's case Andy they knew they had nothing and then on this one. We know from doing it for three years.

They knew right from the beginning they had nothing but that's exactly right Jan they knew they had nothing and once they knew they had nothing and that the warrant was issued by the Pfizer court was based on fraudulent and false information. That investigation should have ceased.

Instead, the President and the nation was put through years, literally, of terror and horror in trying to really follow a ghost and to pursue a hoax and to try and exonerate a person who had no responsibility for any so-called collusion with Roger and that is the President ready members of his staff. When you see something going hundred miles an hour and it's wrong.

I don't care what it takes. You put on the brakes to avoid the collision. Rosenstein ultimately face the responsibility for he didn't do it. I say the buck stops with him. He was the acting AG, I would like. That's right Rosenstein if I was not candid with the FBI during investigation would I be held out to light the FBI think so. I think so. Under most basically if anybody out there if you if you were not candid with the questions, but you don't he's going to say that back today try to say today to his wealth but he did not direct asked directive questions.

This was a guy you should again he try to put that email out sometimes history chooses us he failed history. They literally will they act like they're so tough they may tested that they are they are again they try to make a lot of people happy that they asked no one toughened it out saying McCabe didn't lie but he wasn't candid what identity makes sense that that's not a lawyer, not candid means you did not tell the truth dishonesty so you're not candid you were not you are not wholesome you are not giving a full response.

You do not tell the truth so this is what we now have to ask ourselves, and I like fans, and this is a big what you said is right, Jordan.

This is the beginning an hour to see 53 subpoenas being issued like any day now and where is this going yeah will that's that's the exact reason J that they started with the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein because of the conversation that you just had a mean a lot of people might gloss over the fact that there's a direct admission here of so much.

There was Artie in government J incident mission from the man that was in charge of all of this process for so many of those early days, and where is it going J this is I think an example of what the committee is after it's an example of what I thought we might get into officials who were involved here trying to come forward and salvage a small bit of their personal reputation. I don't think I Mr. Rosenstein is done that if you take sort of the trifecta that he's admitted to hear he's acknowledged that the foundations of the investigation did not warrant the investigation he's admitted that there was no predicate whatsoever, and he stated that officials like Andrew McCabe were neither neutral or forthcoming in their work.

Jake tomorrow the committee is going to issue the rest of these 52 subpoenas to the other officials they want to talk to. By the way, I think Rod Rosenstein probably still has a subpoena coming his way.

I don't think he's Dodge that today by the testimony he's given, but luck there. Other officials are going to come forward. I say again, FBI agent Joseph P. Enke, just like Rosenstein acknowledge McCabe's role today. What will that agent say about Peter Strauch and James, J we got a long way to go inside this committee.

There are more dominoes to fall here, no, no doubt about that Jordan go at the Senators to especially Democrats. Yes, it's an election year. They don't want people talking about this, they don't they don't want to focus and it's not so much just on Rod Rosenstein today I'll play this for your business exchange with Lindsey Graham is important. It's the 53 potential subpoenas that are coming those of the people as Stan said, you know who doesn't worry about throwing political other political appointees under the bus, or people confirmed her acting former acting directs the FBI who they recommend.

By the way they'll fire each other but but how they didn't do anything actually legally wrong. Just they violated all the other principles the FBI, Department of Justice said they they miss you know they altered evidence as in of these texts, but these career folks than just quickly think in Washington DC. Then I can have a prompter on Rod Rosenstein, Jim Kobe. They got note that the not try to figure all that out in their head to be pretty honest because this is there like this that their livelihood, they're not playing politics will, especially as if it's 230 come down the ladder.

Jordan, I mean what did Rod Rosenstein do today.

He threw Andrew McCabe under the bus and probably for good reason. But if you're one of these field agents Jordan doing the right thing and maybe you are one of the people involved in putting together that died January 4 memo that closed crossfire. Her razor just for the next day for a meeting in the Oval Office tour. It will eventually result in the reopening in the continuing the investigation and into Gen. Flynn adjourn. If you're one of those agents who did the right thing. Don't you want the world to know that so your reputation is not tarnished by everything that happened here.

I would think so. I would think that testimony is not right… He was but a Dabney IQ, so the foreplay to buy with centigram because this was a guy who recommended Jim Kobe be fired, and then try to pull that back to when he came under any questioning I was Ashley firing I just said he did he did everything wrong in his bed at well yeah I minute with a look.

The idea that that she's all right have things both ways right, but that it still is, a listener was look at his testimony. Listen to what he say I think that's the problem with it. I mean, but what's happening. This is good as were getting to the bottom line were starting to get real answers as to what was actually going on here and what was going on with the disservice to the American people. I stated earlier I will say it again, the fraud that took place here with the fraud taken on the American people and the waste of almost $40 million, and three years of a lot of people's time, including mine and yours and Annie's right. I want to play this for existing Lindsey Graham. This is the key question is happen right the beginning of the hearing ticket was the thing McCabe knew that.

I hope not.

Sen. I do not personally know was he in charge of the investigation yes to us. Did he ever lie to you this McCabe. I don't believe Sen. that other indications which identify that he lied to me. Okay. Did he ever say anything.

Looking back, that is perplexing to you that well that's a very broad question Sen. I had a lot of County think he was truthful to the well that I believe Sen. that Mr. McCabe was not fully candid with me, certainly wasn't forthcoming, so there and I see it). This is a pretty big admission right there and at huge omission by the acting attorney general in charge of. So this was the only job he had as acting Atty. Gen.

He was Deputy Attorney General. It's a big job. I get that but he only had one job as acting Atty. Gen. getting this right overseeing this investigation and he was writing anything know and when he says in his ear. He lacked candor when we stop using that expression. I am so sick of the expression he lacked candor. He was not fully forthcoming. Let's call it what it is he lied. He didn't tell me the whole truth. He failed to disclose a material fact to me and that's all I had to do was oversee the mother investigation and McCabe and the others lied to me and I didn't do my responsibility by going behind that application and therefore we, the Department of Justice lied to the Pfizer court. Let's just call it what it is and stop using these silly expressions like a lack of candor.

That's a plain old lie is a what is the legal definition. This what you need to find out what's the legal definition of lack of candor and will look it up during the break. I think lack of candor meet didn't tell the truth decided what I wanted and they're saying it's like it you.

Candor means dishonest, though I lack of candor this this idea a specifically that he was again as he specifically said that fully candid, not forthcoming.

Okay, if you knew that base now and what you know and you felt that then or or why did you masturbate? I would put this in context, Rod noticed he was acting Atty. Gen. only. For this reason, the guy also said he he's been reported to say he would wear wire class.

I think those questions are coming to live. There's a lot to ask of remember what he hundred 64 3110. We continue to restart to your calls. We come back from this break get more of your thoughts. Your thoughts and play more from the hearing as well. I 1-800-684-3110. You also stay up to speed on everything ACLJ.org that's ACLJ.org but we come back asserting your phone calls, got a couple ready couple lines open one 800 684 31 to to talk to us on the air will be right back on Jay Sekulow line only when a society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is certainly is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission like it will show you how you are personally pro-life family and the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ plainly hastens were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists. The ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the motion and what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/challenges facing Americans for substantial time with our Valley freedom sword constitutional rights are under attack is more important than ever to stand with the American Center for Law and Justice for decades ACLJ has been on the front lines protecting your freedoms defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena and we have an exceptional track record of success.

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You know we saw in the clip that we just play part television audience and it you been listening to us.

We played the quick click before about this pause after Sen. Graham asks Rosenstein.

Did he ever lie to you talking about Andrew McKay pause big pause.

He wasn't candid. David Gomez is a former FBI agent and senior fellow at George Washington University Center for cyber and Homeland security he was asked the question in an article that ran in the Atlantic as to what does the actual term, lack of candor mean under FBI protocols in the eye and ending up by this interesting lack of candor is untruthfulness or an attempt to dissemble from the point of view of the investigator. That's what it means. Well, that's exactly what happened here if you want to use the formal term. He is lack of truthfulness and not telling the entire truth and that means failure to disclose material facts, but I'm a simpleminded person in the way I look at it is that it is allying is just plain out lien and not telling the entire truthfulness to the party that you are communicating with and Rosenstein accepted those allies that were given to him and carried them on and propounded them to the Pfizer court to the detriment of the trump administration because it perpetuated an investigation that was indeed what the President called it J all that time, a witchhunt we were looking after phantoms that didn't exist and that were created really at the core by the Obama Justice Department and perpetuated under Rod Rosenstein as acting AG over this investigation.

That's what happened here.

I was immature and I was asked you this and that. I also would like to get the anti-Communist, as I think this is important and that is here we are now at five months out from leg and all of this is about to come out.

How does this play out amid are the American people sick of dealing with this or is now that the irregularities are being fully exposed. Is this stated American people.

There really was a fraud committed on the American people here this is the time for the city to ask the questions I mean we act like an in these Democrat senators. They are so full of themselves right and and and so there there sitting in this committee hearing in this saying why Kimberly were not doing this and that, by the way, they have a criminal justice reform hearing three weeks so that's pretty festive by the way, the committee plans out at schedule so that the senators can even get there, which is more difficult during covert and all those issues and the giant hearing room that they're in no public in attendance. I mean a lot of things. So I think remember most of the work of the Senate, though, isn't high-profile enough to even be on C-SPAN light, like always, only certain things make it to C-SPAN, not less. Fox News covering life so and us talking about.

So for the most they can do their work on many different issues. They have huge staffs. In fact, Dick Durbin clearly was just reading his staff talking points because he act like he was reading for the Butler report and then it wasn't there twice so bad. Staff probably doesn't have the same staff around him that he would usually have, but in wash DC had no one behind them ready passive a note to correct them or figure out what was wrong.

Take a listen to this. Number three breaking Democrat. The United States Senate.

Do you agree the trump campaign knew about welcomed and expected to benefit electorally from Russia's interferences. Mr. Miller found in this report page referring to set Italians page volume 1, pages one and two. Not sure what the recording from report center, but that I have in front of statement within the report, volume 1, pages one to SR operator trump campaign knew about welcomed and expected to benefit electorally from Russia's interference. Do you disagree with that in any reason to describe that frightening that I thought that Sarah not seeing those words in the report directly to ours and report of the happy I will abide that don't have it at the moment friendly, but I will produce it and I tell you something.

This is like Bob mother's testimony revisited. Yes, we live this in a way that only a handful of lawyers could say they lifted and three of those lawyers you're talking to right now I appear talking to is watching us a radio or on television. We live this Dick Durbin just quoted something that just what was not on page 1 and two of the report, but you know what was on page 1 and two of the report they could not make a case that there was collusion or conspiracy between the trump campaign and the Russians. That is what actually was in the report.

On pages I think one and two Dick Durbin just quoted something and it wasn't even in the report and fan. How much worse does this get when you got the pelvic witness probably a lot worse although it's sort of hard to get any worse than the man. It was in charge. The time admitting today in open session that he knew this information when he authorized going forward with it. J know the other color that I would put on it. There's been a lot of conversation about Rod Rosenstein saying Inder McCabe wasn't candid about it. What our listeners need to remember what he wasn't candid about because there's transcripts that Adam Schiff just released a couple weeks ago. Finally, this is what Andrew McCabe said in 2017 under oath to the house until committee. He said there is a lot of information in the steel reporting.

We have not, I repeat, we have not been able to prove the accuracy of all of that information. J that's what Andy McCabe lied about to Rod Rosenstein and that's what Rod Rosenstein lied about to get that application afforded an J just a very briefly answer your question about how does this play politically well. Joe Biden was in the room on that January 5 meeting with Pres. Obama, I think it plays in pretty significantly. I guided to any let me quickly. I know we gotta go to a break during her bulimia Sandy this quickly. Whatever play we come back another bite on the second half hour from Dick Durbin about something else that was not in the report that he says is in the report. They are playing a very dangerous game with the American people watching and now about to be fully exposed to James Dick Durbin who is the least among the least of the credible senators in my opinion, and along with lighthouse enclosure this morning whose testimony I was watching you know have put themselves in the position of making quotations out of reports that don't exist, don't think that we don't move and don't have the ability to pull that report and read it because we certainly do and that's not that's exactly what happened here. He was caught with essentially with his pants down and his Jordan said he didn't have a staff member to pass him a note and correct and likely with Feinstein when she was asked the question once I recall and she says something that was wrong and her staff member immediately, past, present, or note, and she change which it said hundred percent. That's what happened with Durbin. He was caught here unawares and unprepared. Usually they have three or four staff. I think the data may be one right now that I don't know how to communicate with Dick Durbin literally for the prep of this would've had some one of the biggest staffs in the entire's U.S. Senate pocket, I donate 500+ people at least got both his his leadership staff and his staff in the U.S. Senate office us as a US sitter from Illinois is double the amount of staff as other senators and they can't get it right or whose attribute will be right back. Second half hour coming up on Jay Sekulow for decades ACLJ has been on the frontlines of protecting your freedom is defending your rights in court in Congress and in the public arena. The American Center for Law and Justice is on your side. If you're already a member. Thank you.

If you're not well this is the perfect time to stand with us, ACLJ.org, where you can learn more about our life-changing work, member today ACLJ live from Washington DC Jay Sekulow my baby looked at the Horace report.

Yes, I have a habit with seven if you knew then what you know now, would you have signed the worn application no.

And now, your host Jordan secular application may be asked a few more questions were cited were Apple patient on people accuse of literally that the President was being accused of being a Russian agent, so forget that that that's what they were trying to get to it and care about Carter paid then okay what the right one reason phis also does. It is because they had no didn't that also raise suspicion. The fact that you are looking at a phis on the American who again was involved in a very attenuated way with as a volunteer for a campaign which, as we said and knows us worked on campaigns that she worked on the campaigns and bid advisors to the actual candidates for President United States can tell you that there's a lot of volunteers on campaigns and they can go to innovative photo operative photo line that does not make them advisors to and Diane Feinstein knows that Amy Clover chart knows of the politicians as well. They don't even I would love to commingle name every bite their phone bank they can name every time the advisory committee. Off the top of their head.

I would love to see if they could do that but I get Rod Rosenstein should've should've looked into into how close is this guy actually Donald Trump the first place. Okay, we could've found out very early on and he that he that never actually been a real meeting with the men as Friday was ugly. He was a minor operative, but as someone said that the real target here was Donald drunk and so when you are targeting a figure of that magnitude. And then, in holding that position. You do more than simply scan the document and as he said, review it, you make inquiry in detail with respect to the contentions that are made in the affidavit in support of the application for a warrant to spy. That's what that's it. And when Rosenstein failed and that and somebody as Sen. Cruz really pursue him in great detail who is accountable here and he wouldn't really admit that ultimately it was him. He really wouldn't say that he said how admit that he wouldn't of signed the worn, but accountability for what was in the worn he really never would take that on himself to go to Jerry Rhode Island online to any for most warrants I would say maybe the last guy in charge should he said Bill Ryan staff at some point. Okay, but when it came to this one. He had a special appointment as to acting Atty. Gen. in charge investigates the present United States for something that you could go, not just jail for the be impeached, I be there so many things and serious issues facing a whole host of main actors, but including the leader of the free world so involved that and he doesn't ask questions may be differently treated the same, but he appointed the guy that a special counsel. He knew it was special to begin with. Take a list of the phones Jerry Rhode Island to Jerry that her hold on your own there are looking good? Apologies from Rhode Island for the Democratic senator around that question two. We just saw the elimination of adjunct professor of evidence permit Durbin and Primo solicitors are probably saying if we see the admitted malfeasance nonpatent of Rosenstein in front of everybody.

What are the personal ramifications in others. I hope that claimant folks are pretty quick in the middle of all this, he left the variance yet.

So here's the here's the thing. I mean, the rods gone so there's no the department just can't take any adverse action is no longer an employee. I don't think that what I'm hearing anything. Both the level of criminality, but we do have a lawyer that's been appointed US Attorney John Durham, who has reviewing this thing from top to bottom. We have a separate US attorney that's reviewing the Flynn matter from top to bottom and that is where you're going to see accountability. We've said hold on, be patient, let's do it the right way.

Let's make sure the legal process is followed due process is given, but at the end of the day justice will be served by rooting for you because we come back 1-800-684-3110 2000 684-3110.

The questions coming in and he will play more sound from the hearing so Santos party occurred and in the Senate hearing had again biggest enemy of the deal is not 53 more people are going to testify about Rod Rosenstein to and and I don't think it would be so protective and dancing around. Robert sees dancing rain on Capitol Hill.

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And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn is called mission life will show you how you are personally pro-life, and the publication includes a look at all major ACLJ pro-life cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activists ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the and what Obama care means to the pro-life discover the many ways your membership in the ACLJ is empowering the right to life question free copy of mission life today online ACLJ/what_his two stents gets his staff for being the whip, which is probably 50+ people or more. The hundred at least 100+ people are only job is to advise Dick Durbin soever is General Counsel's progeny fired today because they were he was reading talking points prepared.

I guess by his top attorney and his and his staff and but that the the what he was reading even exit the mother report in front of him. He was quoting from it.

He was just missing some of the quotes also summer summaries of different things that weren't actually there or said take it was this happened twice weekly.

The first one. Here's the second one do disagree with the mother report conclusion from campaign plan to press strategy or communications campaign. The messaging based on possible release of claim emails by WikiLeaks volume 1, page 54 that says according to Mr. Gates that's attributed to Mr. Gates on think that's a finding of the molar.

It's it's what one of the witnesses said there any reason to believe it's not true I I have no no information beyond the fact that the witness sets and it's just this was the whole. This was like I remember this with other witnesses will remain nameless making allegations against people, and then base will where the backup information from that what we don't have it, and then even Bob Muller to discredit my don't give them very much. One of the hearing, said I not remember which of the particular witness.

It noted on that was not what we concluded and maybe this that is what the witness said there is anti-the difference between a legal conclusion, and what a witness said that sun cooperated is really significant.

II can't. I can't believe that it that Durbin was so ill-prepared as to do that. He makes a statement and then when disaster back and when he asked Moses in the back it up. Rosenstein asked for the page and the citation number is basically quoting over as a finding as of my mother, a legal conclusion by mall or something that a witness merely said and that was not Muller's ultimate conclusion. You don't think that you where's your preparation I would have some staff members on the carpet for that. But back to the phone Shari Scully from Indiana online one. Sure welcome to Jay Sekulow Lodge on the violet up there today requesting him anyway. I believe that Robert and sidestepping all the questions and I agree with you that not only Andrew McKay designed that he trying to make it not responsible for anything and he didn't have any problem no you have any problem hopping to wear a wire into trap present trial he denies. I would be fair here.

He denies that that media. Rod said that he did not do that.

It was it was some statement in just that's how he said it. The other thing is there a limit to. Don't forget that when it came to the conclusions when all the report was assembled and then it was up to the Atty. Gen. and the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to review all the data that Muller had produced because Muller can come up with a legal conclusion on obstruction. Remember that because you quickly know we can't say it is, we can't say it isn't not to charge a crime that we can prove Rod Rosenstein exercise legal authority pursuant to the app. The department just as guidelines and made a conclusion with the Atty. Gen. and career people that in fact there was no obstruction of justice engaged in by the President of the United States.

So while were being hard on Rod, and for good reasons. When you see what he actually said. I also want to be fair Andy that the legal conclusion that the Department of Justice came up with was right. It was just ill-fated wrong and a fraud from the beginning, when was I was, indeed, that is why also the Flynn that in and then prosecution was ill-fated ill advised and mishandled from the very beginning, but so many of these have been mishandled from the beginning that the Senate is rightfully now looking into who is ultimately going to be bearing the responsibility for this miscreant deeds and somebody's got to ultimately be responsible in connection with the Pfizer warrant application. It's got to be Rod Rosenstein. He was acting Atty. Gen.

I know that it goods Genesis was in the Obama administration and we really have to not forget that folks, it's not just Rod Rosenstein. The genesis of these untruths that led to Rosenstein's unaccountability and info. Improper action in approving the Pfizer worn what had its genesis, its birth in a corrupt Justice Department ultimately headed by and responsible to the then President of the United States, Barack Obama rose Québec. The phones 1-800-684-3110.

We were gonna say we come up as well sink is still time to phone calls and for that segment it more into the same 1-800-684-3110 to talk to sneer with your comments or questions. Donna conifer Minnesota online three data welcome to Jay Sekulow life wondering what about law requirements, it will all criminal McKay is the start of the Bosphorus by Jim, he certainly I mean he's wrongdoing. Yes, he's cut. He was kind of focus, but also Jim Comey had no from throwing him under the bus to for that directly to the New York Times about this matter so Jim Comey is what I mean is there's a few people that are actors in this that I don't think bureaucrats out the people's careers are based off this that are political appointees that are going to be willing to go to bat for them. No, I think that's right. I think what would happen to Sandra McCabe has lost his benefits and I think he sued the government to try to get those benefits back over there that'll be successful or not, will see.

But I don't think it will be but you remember there's another investigation going on here by John Durham. Now, it's another interesting aspect of this and we get man's view on this is that is is Andrew McKay being called to testify as one of those 53 subpoenaed witnesses. He's on the list J that's getting about tomorrow and the committee to subpoena will be actually interesting to see how Andrew McKay replies J he might want to respond to some of this, actually, but I would just quickly tell you write an interesting man are going at your picture back you respond that that the female sex that you laid out and that's a civil case, you could use that as if it's if he took the fifth.

The guy was covering up wrongdoing.

He would build his pension back pension might not be worth avoiding prosecution but will I guess we'll see on that but I would tell you this, Rod Rosenstein might try to blame Andy McKay but he was still the one that appointed a special counsel while admitting today.

There was no predicate to gay so he was still the one that signed the FISA applet application when there was no predicate to do so. And by the way, the very first piece of sound. The chairman Graham played was Rod Rosenstein on May 2018. After all of this saying oh that's why we have someone sign off on this to make sure that it safeguarded will guess what it's 11 to run application so which way is it. It wasn't safe, are not any let me ask you this. You've done this before, to complex cases where you got and you got this with with grantors when you have 53 witnesses that are to become forth to test my domicile. Dissent is not a grand jury to try to get the truth to me that's the ultimate goal is can we get the truth.

A scenario starts emerging as these witnesses testify separately start to be able to pinpoint what's going to explain to our audience how that process would work especially a situation you might well have 53 witnesses while you have. It's a large puzzle really and you're trying to put the pieces together and you have 53 pieces of the puzzle. Let's say that may lead you to 53 more pieces of the puzzle because questions lead to other questions and what were trying to do, and with the Senate and Sen. Graham as chairman of the Judiciary Committee is attempting to do much to the chagrin of the Democrats who say that it's ridiculous to do it. Of course they would say that but what he's trying to do is to piece together the puzzle of several years of mismanagement within the Justice Department lies, omissions, falsehoods and things that should not of been done. This is what a grand jury by analogy J does this is not a grand jury. The Senate cannot indicted cannot prosecute, but what it can do is put together for legislative purposes and oversight reasons and rationale what happened and the way you do that is call in these witnesses and grill them as the Republicans are doing the Democrats are really not nonparticipating because they don't want to be a part of this really, but grill them and get the full picture of the puzzle and put it together. It's a long process. It's a laborious process, but the end results are really getting to the truth I let me let me play this for a weekly talk tonight with Sen. Holly and Rod roasting again specifically on did you review anything that you know anything that you were signing off on I could you just testified to us that you didn't actually take a listen by 43. He also testified to today that you didn't read it. Some material I didn't say how is it you would you like us to have your testimony read back to you said I can't say that I read it I don't think I read every page a means yes I did say that yes but OKC didn't rubberstamp her, but you didn't read it, you know, center have to explain the process or think were familiar with the process. OIG gave us the process.

By the time it got to you. You had 17 critical errors, falsehoods, omissions, leading a federal court to say they have never seen it like this in the catcher sending else the FBI says and you sign off on it you not to me that I did. I'm reminded of the theories before by people like Andrew Wiseman and others who run by mother's team now fundraisers for Joe Biden's Mike Lee pointed out in the hearing today and Jeff, I've had Agnes Collette and start looking bad.

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Now that may also be liable to repay. I federal government for the constant DEA spent on the Fossen guest scheme ethos investigation that took place on the go ahead yeah I got a criminal wrongdoing. We know that because they don't get US attorneys in Lester's potential criminal acts and it does it at we don't know a week. You can imagine who they're looking at.

It's not hard to figure out the top players but then you point out there's a whole group. Now we know, especially from what we learned out learned from information that's been disclosed documents been disclosed as a whole group of secondary actors.

Now that have not are not the most high profile names but are the probably the key key witnesses to this yet two things during personal taxpayers are currently paying for Judge Sullivan's defense so there's that.

But you're absolutely correct. This is been one of the points that I think people need to pay the most attention to. Because yes, these other 52 subpoenas during their unit could include the likely actors of James Comey and Andrew McCabe and Peter Strock and that testimonies can be very important, but work in a largely know it a Jordan. What about the other people that actually had to execute this. What about the Mary McCord's of the world who worked on this and then went to work for Adam Schiff but what about FBI agent Joseph P.

Enke, who went over to interview Gen. Flynn when James Comey just flippantly sent the motor he went over with Peter Strock wrote the initial 302 and then Peter Strock and Lisa page edited that. What about when he comes forward to testify. What is he gonna say a Jordan, I suspect, much like Rod Rosenstein. He will probably try to blame it on other people but interestingly enough, that will be pretty credible information because he was in the room when it happened.

I think we got a long way to go on this Jordan 164 3110 at 2000 684311. Just listen to Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina by 32. This committee looked at everything he wanted us to look at in terms of Russian behavior did Russia interfere you better believe they did while they do it again. Yes, they will. Was this the Ukrainians know it was the Russians who stole the emails. It was the Russians who have divided the American people. In terms of the 2016 campaign but it wasn't the Russians. My friend who withheld information from the Pfizer court keeping five Carter pages. Life turned upside down. It wasn't the Russians who refused to tell the court that the under lot dossier. That was a crucial to the car. Page warrant was a bunch of garbage. It wasn't the Russians who manipulated an email to keep getting a warrant against American citizens. It wasn't the Russians who withheld information from the court about Gen. Flynn that they were setting him up and out to get him. It was the Department of Justice. It was the FBI was people who hated truck so I again that yes, there was this idea one.

First, I and other courts for Rod Rosenstein. I don't know if you would share the info. Because again he's give he'll try to dance for everything but is okay to try to rush rush rush or the other countries about private influence in elections and the others at the DOJ's attributes, even though because I would imagine that there there are these other big actors China there would be another one China when at the virus would would unleashing a virus potentially be infiltrated and food selection possibly get the President put tariffs on your country. Interesting. I love a statement that you let me say this with regard to what job I thought Lindsay did a great job of summing it up and that was he laid out that despite all of the investigations, the real criminals in this the real violators of the law were people within the Department of Justice and the FBI that were conducting this investigation, the real lawbreakers here were in fact the FBI and the and the Department of Justice and committing a fraud, then on the Pfizer court. That's the sad truth. Jay Leno expect foreign powers to try to interfere in our elections and to subvert the American election process in his Jordan alluded to. It's not just Russia. It could be China could be Turkey could be any number of factors, but you don't expect internal members of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of investigation American citizens sworn to uphold the law to take the actions that these people did take in trying to subvert and for the American election process and to get the result that they wanted I expected from the foreign powers. I don't expect it from our own people.

You know Jordan, I want to make an announcement here and I think it's today we are going our one-hour broadcast which airs in California on KK LA we you get 30 minutes it died thing 9 o'clock and another 30 minutes at 6 o'clock. Well, we got some good news were to keep the 9 o'clock. 30 minutes but at 6 o'clock. You will now on KK LA I think it starts today that the entire hour of the broadcast on that big station out in Los Angeles and were thrilled to be able to announce that that were expanding the network. Even today I that's great folks in right was sent to Kelly again that sense you get that second half are the full hour of Jay Sekulow lives was go to Vito's call in New York online to veto welcome Jay Sekulow life all I think my my question went up on the on the warrant at my I'm not a lawyer but I was the police of New York, and I did have to find a search warrant and I was the last one to sign on them and I find so on the perjury of law is not the same thing with him without Rosenstein's timeline between like he's telling people he didn't feel like slaves. He was being used. They were untruthful to him and me that this weekly phase, but yet he's trying to say but I did know that at the time.

So what I was signing off on was not was was not wrong. It is a very fine line when you're the, the acting Atty. Gen. United States. Yeah, I think, look at me and to Andy to get it to the level where it's criminality is a very difficult standard as it should be, by the way we want standards to be high. We were talking about criminal matters but the wrongdoing here. I think will go down in the books of legendary when this is all done months from now we have this completed and we went through this whole process. We will say look what happened in the United States of America and how does it not happen again. That's right, I think Sen. Holly said it best. He said the Rosenstein. There's two alternatives.

Either you criminally responsible are you are grossly negligent and of course he wouldn't answer the question that the senator posed to him I wouldn't say that he was a criminal.

I will not come say the Rosenstein was a criminal for what he did but I talked the talk about gross negligence and failure to do what your office divide demanded of you to do. Yes, you were that you are liable for, and that you are guilty of our folks that will do for today's broadcast alum encouragers.

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