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Your right and so that brings us to the end of the portion of the episode were talking about Michael's article. I know Michael and Breanna to share something with us as well. Yes, so Breanna and I are going to be leaving the outer brightness podcast and I say that with a really heavy hearts. Nothing against all of you in case anyone is that concern on their mind kind of funny because I first came out of the LDS church member telling a group of missionaries online witness to Mormons that I didn't have anything to add to the work that they were already doing because I was coming into the lake to the game and I had nothing to offer. After all the work that already been done in this field and I started writing some articles and I just I had no material like this is going to lastly exactly 3 weeks and I'm going to run out of things to write and miraculously every month. This is a topic on my heart. I have been able to write it. Paul approached me with this podcast in the first thought my head was. I can't do this podcast are to short winded.

I can't think of things to say. I think I sound stupid every time I say something, it's just not for me and I just went ahead and tried it out and it's been amazing two years with these guys but unfortunately life is just at this point taken me away from being able to do this with work just taken a new job and it's our busy season lot lot plan coming up. That's just about allowing the time to continue to do, but really grateful to everybody listen Landon and supported us you guys are amazing and senior, Max has strengthened me the Jimmy from feeling like I'm wasting my time is really a psychologist that I talked to very eager to make me feel like I'm wasting my time a lot so amazed by all of you and you strengthened me, I just got anybody's listening to know that.

So thinking so much for your support. Husband when it comes to the spring while grateful to hard for little while and finally name is Casper while grateful. I know I will miss you both your voices think are powerful and important work they were doing and to nothing blessed to have you. Michael by my side in this, from day one is restarted.

Planning for Aiden discussing what it might look like you're early on, you, you and Breanna were very newly married and you expressed concern that he needed to hold off for a bit. I wanted to jump right in and go hundred miles an hour and then you express the mood to two way for your six months to a year to kinda dip settled in your intermarriage and I respect you for that men's you also where you are now where you need to take some time and and step back, you know within any kind of ministry. It's important to recognize when you might be trying to run too fast and when you have to take a step back and there are important important things that call for our time and and family and marriage and career are some of those things, not all of us have been called by God to be full-time vocational ministers of the gospel. I very much respect those who are, but the three of us are not. So we do this you known it in our spare time which is in very much and so I could just commend you for recognizing when it's time to take a step back, you know, the apostle Paul was a tent maker and support himself that way. So there's a there's a precedent for for us by vocational ministers of the gospel and just really appreciate both of you and your voices and of course, as we discussed, you're always welcome to come back and pop in for an episode here and there asking question all this. Looking at your shirt like this is simple and think about that Mrs. girls seem that's also going to wear the shirt to be another subliminal message like maybe Michael's on deaths door is always trying to keep him from Reno passing on to the next life. You know he wants you to be the Betty White about the Michael killed over before me.

After all, his jokes about being old will you permission to lastly ironic that spring were not great ironic is that right yes right right right: I'll be giving a eulogy at his funeral. He just turns around and looks at Michael and the coffin is like I told you, you sucker your fault. How would my fault. Yeah, I agree with all you said is been very is been great. Doing so is with you and I really really enjoyed interviewed. She's she stepped up to the plate to Aeschylus?

Tell Eli that that discussion aspire and Michael you all.

You always give similarly really great comments and it's it's interesting that when you said that you felt like he couldn't speak or didn't like you have anything to save great insights I love. I love the weightiness to have your articles, you know like Holy Ghost at all. And that's great. You always get these witty ideas and come like a talent for for fighting, and thank you both for joining us for sure think you guys to their way really appreciate you guys like what I learned from working with both of you.

This calls leadership is something that I really admire and try to strive for myself, and in Matthew, you anchor me down sometimes in a good way because I tend to be really creative, but that's not always the best thing when it comes to the gospel to remember by Kate Scripture is barracks.

She liked to tie us down doctrinally. I think you better get influence on their let me ask Mormon right like it's really easy to just be like all whoever makes the most eloquent statement wins and like no that's not the case has to be in line with Scripture. So I learned a lot. Talking with you see things that I went to see him before I got confident theology and common is on your device in the different things in a positive way. So yeah definitely enjoyed working with with both of you. My seat working like money, but I just really enjoy the fellowship to great residential you're really needed do a random phone call during any of these recordings for you to bother me with any questions or anything spot for my my probably give you a quick heads up. I text first so that Breanna could set up a microphone yeah you call me speaker you my number going to miss you will deftly stay in touch and fireflies if you will be praying for Michael. He has some decisions coming up with regards to career things that are very exciting that I hope will be very good for them and has some some some tough decisions to make on which direction he wants to go with this career and so be praying for him and for Breanna that got challenges that they face is as a young couple and and dealing with stepparents and other parent situations aren't always easy, but we really appreciate them. Love what they're doing with their with their marriage and their faith in just pray God's richest bus blessings on you both.

I did want to bring up something though, in a section of the very last section started when Paul started reading" it.

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Keeping him grounded part C says okay so the line versus disobedience doesn't undo the covenant relationship. Can you imagine taking your kid out of the house because he didn't clean his room gorgeous on you because he told a lie.

I saw you had a little smirk on her face. Michael talking about when you start to Breanna and you're like a good idea services see anything from this effusive out here breaking that it was like that go along doing that is what I would not do what you kicked out of the house kid but the cats the cats are not my children because cats are Breanna goes with the package. I think him now dictate overuse. He was two guys come over cake doesn't seem like something I throw my wife out for pics like looking at the 7-Eleven is one of you could literally hold the start before you step in the double depot question for the editors where does this episode and still going so place where I have gotten some LDS back is what I said that we got the iron rod vision for God is love those not made it to the tree.

Then they say that I'm misrepresenting Dr. and I know that I kind of man because I know that it's there that God loves every box I don't think any of us here can deny that if you look at this vision. Logically, if that tree represents the level got the book of Mormon says it does in the iron rod is leading to it and the iron rod represents profit obedience to them.

You have to make your way to the love of God and you are not, so I'm just showing them the way that it looks great with that I go off the deep end there, who gave us a member of the quorum of the 12 that gave a famous talk in general conference and became a lightning rod where they talked about you know that God's love is knocking that is not unconditional was that was it. Richard just got her was at Oaks the day that talk hacker. But maybe I'm wrong for some reason I'm remembering Oakes music going on, I found an article where they quoted from 2003 where he said devout well-defined love can be called perfect during and universally cannot correctly be characterized as unconditional as any. Then he quoted us to mother talks to like Elder Christopherson and Ella Randall said similar things so so Nelson originally set it yet except yeah so Michael I think you're right. The least under the current president profit going back to whenever originally gave a talk on member, just the 2002. Think about the right time for my talk time from what I remember, being a lightning rod conference talk just so God's love is not unconditional thought on my cousin LDS. I would believe that there's two types of love that God loves us conditionally and because he loves us unconditionally as his children, but then he only blesses those two covenants keep the comments below. Also, I Was like a Dual Dual Administration of Your Say That of Love Yeah It Seems Weird. Go to Say God Loves Everybody but Ascending Some of the People That He Loves to Correct the Celestial Kingdom. People Argue That God Loves See and the Demons Because God Loves All His Children. Those Are His Children According Theology Which This Is Kind of Ridiculous That God Loves Them but He Sent Them to Utter Darkness for Eternity with Her Sleeping, Wailing and Gnashing of Teeth. Love, Then Count Me out.

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