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WHAT Church IS True? Part 2

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April 28, 2021 7:48 am

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April 28, 2021 7:48 am

From Mormon to Jesus!  Real, authentic conversations among former members of The Church Of Latter-Day Saints.

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Your right and so was for me is that when I was questioning and want to leave the church and but outgrew really start Scripture and I listening to talks sermon I got from former preacher introduced to that light and just like you just you. I started to understand the core is not all the other extreme is a great. There are nice people are always willing to help and serve the Lord, the love of really what is the core.

The core is who is God who are we in relation to God. What is the gospel and how do we have a right relationship with God. How are we said so just studying picture Romans, especially Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, is so clear that we are not good at the core because of our fallen nature. We don't sin because we said we sin because we are sinners, so that needs to change our coordinators change Scripture talking about raising us up to spiritual life in Christ, we were dead in our trespasses and sins, and then got in Christ, raised us up solved all his passages just didn't mean your member like little soft about wanting to staying ahead of the vein of Mormonism, but cherry picking what I wanted to keep didn't want to keep. I just realized that a problem for all of the capital of the court clerk fact is that I can't see myself taking and what the church teaches is a different gospel: the Bible teaches so and I realize at the heart of what I was being the heart of what wanted to represents is not correct is not biblical God is a document. Is that okay healthy because of miles and so I just continued to study reformed theology and and I just sought is consistent. I saw this is consistent with the logical all the Scriptures. Of course, will have our biases and selectivity may be what I see is consistent, as he isn't consistent but what I've studied and read it just also very consistent. That's why I've stuck with the reform tradition, but there baptism tightly talk about how you attended church actually attended both Presbyterian Church Caracol Baptist Church studying the topic of covenant theology and baptism.

I was trying real hard to not let my past studying in college is great apostasy in all the negative feelings we were given as children about infant baptism. I think I think infant baptism is one of the few things is the book of Mormon teaches will send you straight to hell yet. Are you thinking about it when you die you straight to hell in the book of Mormon. It's a good thing. Thinking about it. If you think that it's good anybody ever thought your help.

Yes, so I thought about that. I thought not.

I have really solid crimson Christian paperwork in a Baptist, I know I'll let my experience taint.

You know what could be a biblical doctrine so I really gave it several months study.

I don't think everybody should do what I did. I kind of like when I was my faith tradition, figured out, I wanted to leave Mormonism find a church. I basically shut myself into my room, watched Dino sermon the proximity to and to study Scripture into pot up all kinds of study Bible. It is I didn't leave my room for months he know figuratively I start work and stuff but enough basically just studying my brain exploded like okay I think I figured it out now and then when I figured out what I believe I started going to that church.

I was purely a doctrine side.

I googled enough reformed churches as I found to have on the public. Church Baptist Church and that one topic I wasn't quite sure about the because of the report Baptist confession is a 1689 London Baptist confession of faith the Presbyterians as the Westminster confession of faith and the London Baptist copy literally copy the confession. All of it except for the sections on dirt government covenants and sacrament so I feel very comfortable with contains even when we disagree about those confessions are so close that was funny about that because of his thinking today about the looseness history account where he talks about all the different religions that were just at war with each other and how we were so decided against each other and that's how I viewed Christianity so long that didn't even view each other as Christian. When I come to the side and I don't see will all just when I see you know Cormac Clewiston and Presbyterians.

The novelty jabs at each other. Just joking around, usually on why this is what Joseph was talking about.

Seriously twittering up because I think that's the perception we have of Mormon is that we imagine Mike. I can remember, there is this one video about.

I think it was just wasn't Joseph Smith property restoration. I think it was as an official multidistrict video about business life.

I think it is talking about but I don't remember what was called called the restoration of something maybe finish is is a kidney stone outside and all the Christian preachers were shouting at each other. Pointer finger yell medic seen on your gonadal and all the stuff that was my thought to select Christians just hate each other, you know, like all there's only one true church is also which one is which one is true and I should become a Methodist or Baptist or Lutheran like only one who got the right right something that's primary about this this episode letting that the transition independent why I wanted to talk about next so I brought up Ephesians 45 in the intro.

So does being horrified teach really that there is only one true church is there only one Christian denomination that's true, why or why not that likely kind of parties booklet about that you want to continue where you left off of his initial thought occasions for numerous book courses with only one body and so I do think that there is just one church, but I wouldn't upon church. Now the way that I did when I was on the walls because of past it was about the one denomination that is the one church all exact doctrine being lined up and now I would say that it is every Christian church.

Every Christian person actually goes beyond the scope of the building or even organization with offices in calling priesthood keys in his chest. All the problems Jesus and that we church that holds the most Christian essentials.

We are all part of an different denomination release parts of the body, seated people got rid of the New Testament talks about the church is about Christ's soul in a metaphorical sense it would take about literally you have to take you like the LDS church that either that church that was built up by the apostles. Preaching either continued throughout all of history and find that particular church. In one of our existing denominations of Christianity or there was this great apostasy right church fell so. From a historical standpoint. No I don't I don't have your title scorecard teaches of you when we were in the process of building a church service. Another couple also from our board meeting. The LDS church and we were friends of Meyer served with the husband and couple hiding elders quorum presidency for number of years and we were getting together for a couple stereo see the movie inception will be interesting films taken that our view of reality and just shifted drastically and we were sitting around talking: the movie in our garden, and the white fasting about the church we were attending and what they took on authority supported and I did my best to describe her what what I have learned thus far and she's like oh so it's sort of like the Martin Luther priesthood of all believers and just servicer like that and she was serious and I was learning but you have the body of Christ is used the collective of believers who have been ordered and drawn by God to his son and saved through his sacrifice on the cross and so is the church, an entity that is identifiable know that's not it's not did he wondered about this. It's made up of believers from different denominations and any known event, little bit more, leaving LDS Christians who pointed out that even members of their own congregation might not necessarily be saved and it blew me away. I figured, you know, the way I thought is everybody in my wallet is an important celestial kingdom.

You can judge where somebody is based on their religious affiliation, and where they go to church and now I know nothing to do with that and everything to do with somebody's personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the listing of this question. I thought about a sermon I saw an my wife's parents Baptist Church 100 will be left LDS. An exam, the pastor was preaching and she made the same point Michael Moody somewhere that are incarcerated. Some who to all outward appearances are all universe. All members of that particular Baptist Church and the statement and stuck so church cannot see, not even this one is an unusual computer just said that you cross that that statement is that in sermon is stuck with me ever since and it was kind of one of those moments that opened the a lot of my mind allowed me to see things differently because as as a latter-day Saints. The way to salvation is prescribed. It's very clear you are baptizing progress through the ranks of the priesthood or young women go to the temple and take out Velma's covenants and temple and university men were saved and it's all because you belong to a church that has the priesthood and as a latter-day St.

That was that he was very comforting. It was just like well this thing I'm all good, and yet there was there was a sense in which internally I was really struggling as I wonder if I was actually sated so I have this conflict of on one hand one you'll confident that I have found church and therefore I was in, but internally I knew that my relationship was not what it should be Jesus Christ and so when the pastor made a statement about that related struggling as the important thing for him so sad that I had I heard loud and clear what he said church Knesset. Yeah, I agree with what you express chair I was thinking to about how great form typically use terms like universal church to speak of all the body of believers throughout the world and all throughout time and oral part of this part of the invisible church because like you said we cannot be saved and did not state. Only God knows that all of true believers throughout time and space are all united as the body of Christ as those who will have an inheritance in heaven, and the ideal is that the visible church.

The congregation is equal to the little church, but we know that's not the case. Obviously there's always going to be chairs among the soft belly. The gospel that are church on Sundays and pastors will say any of you don't know the Lord go to him albacore the cross and after salvation. So I'm at the number on the system.

Remember some primitives to do. Nevertheless, most competent one course of going back what I was saying about the church, Christ's apostles builds up either continued unabated unbroken throughout the centuries, or the way I going to use Ephesians 45 in such a literal way to say that there is only one true identifiable church.

If you want to take out nude running the problems in the New Testament is that of a new kind of required. The approach that there is this one true identifiable church.

It's the one set of by the apostles. It was never going to go away, then you have stated that belong to the church was in bright red elicited regular problems with value in the New Testament where you see the apostle John talk about those who call on the way and everyone else from us and affect anyone else from us shows that they were never really of us and ends so. These these people who own way and went out away from us away from the church were never really of the church. It is not the church that saves is talking about.

And so to take dictate to take a hard line about four or five but the one who church and identifiable justice and consistent with Scripture as I was writing about this to about the horn and commentaries from scholars art can be a very great blessing of using correctly as I use a commentary from a Dutch reformed scholar named Eileen Hendrickson and he said that there could be multiple understandings of his particular passage, so he says what is meant by this one. Pay is it taking the objective sense body. Create or is it taken the subjective sense reliance on the Lord Jesus Christ and on his promises. And he says that the fact that faith is mentioned immediately after Lord and is immediately followed by baptism all in one very short sentence would seem to indicate that the triad is a closely knit unit. Hence DAV says he agrees with another author when he states it is better to take the whole sentence is expressive of a single fundamental fact one Lord in whom we all believe his name may have been baptized.

I think he makes a great point there that is not it's not three completely separate ideas that are chopped up the pieces say okay and is one Lord only one true church and only one perfect type of baptism. It's all together as one Lord we put our faith and reasoning of the baptized something. I think that makes a lot of sense hundred okay so I think this is an important thing to bring up Michael E.

Also public. He actually spoke about essentials of the faith. So, are there officials.

Other essential doctrines that should be taught in the local church court to be considered a part of the church of Jesus Christ and are there some toxic topics that are secondary or nonessential, where Christians disagree with the Lee Brothers and sisters, the universal church of Christ. Yes, I do think we have talked about that quite a bit and I think there are essential doctrines. How is a whole lot of validity is about really important. So, the nature of God, the Trinity, the Jesus died on the cross and requested that he was resurrected physically resurrecting all essentials solos essentials that mean being all the denominations have different little doctrines.

It's okay, I agree with essential micro listed parens.

I sold my admired my view is that essentials are within the parish of the Bible that survival.

And so the doctrine is established from from the Bible and German doctrines that propped up by using the Bible of Islamic injury doctrines, the doctors established from from the Bible sound exegesis of of the text bearing that vetted as an essential does the mind was what we have regarding our central as you were saying earlier Matthew in the biblical teaching in church past that is what is important because were sharper than any two-edged sword, when the word is preached.

It does not return void and so that's kind of essentials. My attic. I think it's not only important to recognize that there is a distinction between essentials nonessential clinic of the doctrine is acting as a very important step because I think a latter-day St. viewpoint.

It seems like in our brains. It's like you're either all on board, or you're not everything where it's like a latter-day St. were to say something like well I'm a latter-day state but I don't believe our profit is the profit today that would put up some huge red flags or if there to say something like well I just don't think we need temple work anymore. You know it seems like in a latter-day St. mindset.

It seems like pretty much everything is kind of essential maybe some things are more important than others. In her mind you like maybe some really think genealogy is like should be high up on our priority list.

But for the most part these are like this to my mind when I latter-day St. like Christians. They have part have some a couple things of that. But they're not with us.

They don't have fullness of salvation. And even if you're in our church.

You got to be aborted. Everything you can choose a peer-to-peer cafeteria Mormon can like what I started to try to end up becoming than you know that you're not on the profit so is he like to like everything is essential but it is liberating or liberating to realize that there are core there is the core of the gospel with people that are described and the things we disagree upon. It's not because we just pick and choose whatever we want is more like none of us is perfect.

We are each trying to understand the word of God as God wrote it inspired and some things are not hundred percent clear in Scripture like there is disagreement in things like church government so there are those who think there should be deacons and elders and above them even like a bishop office is kind of like the idea of Episcopalian view of church government and there is the view that there are deacons, teaching elders and ruling elders by distinction between those two types of others because there is a path to equality is prepared for those kind of ideas are not essential. Those are not part of the core of the gospel and how it is important that I think baptism in water baptism after recommended that I believe it is not essential to have a specific kind of baptism because otherwise I would have to say to my Presbyterians and my brothers in Christ, I say you have to be accessible or else you so anyways there's a lot of different topic that I think are nonessential.

It's important to be able to distinguish the essential.

The nonessential and a lot of the essentials were figured out within the first few centuries of the church.

I'll just quote really quickly from first encore by this you know the Spirit of God. Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not God, so that is that is one of many tests given us to determine if someone is is of God or of Santa Fe. There is an early church that said that Jesus Christ had not come in a clash that he was not truly truly man that he only appeared to be a man that he came down as God, and look like a man but one truly man, so that was one of the tests is that that they're fighting in the early church was there people denying the true humanity of Christ and with the areas controversy was entry they are redefining what it meant Christ to be God, so that was was another battle that was bought, but I don't get to history lesson, but just to show that there are essential said true divinity.

Many of Christ Trinity, although he said so. I agree with that and it's important to be able to as a Christian to be able to make the distinction because we think everything is essential than anyone who disagrees with us is a heretic. So there are people like that that that that that there are those who say you have to be my way or the highway mentality and necessarily dangerous path to go down to the under the leadership and tutelage of a pastor that teaches a so that's one thing out of caution those who are leading this charge and heading Christianity is that they're not taught the distinction between essential nonessentials than that I would be very weary of staying with such accommodation. To counter this contrast by God to walk with Jesus. When this is really a national exception µ is born and raised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah, commonly referred to as the Mormon faith. All of us possess that religion and have been drawn to faith in Jesus Christ based on biblical teaching.

The name of our podcast out of brightness six, John 19 which calls Jesus, the true light which gives light to everyone you found licensee on Mormonism to be brighter than we were told in the light, we have is not our own. Thus, out of brightness purpose is to share our journeys of faith God has done in drawing us to his son to have conversations about all aspects of the transition fears, challenges, joys, and everything in between. Glad you found us and we hope you'll stick around. So you say to a latter-day St. personally asked you how you would explain believe your church is true there is a logical personal best of talk about.

The church is the visible on believers that were not able to tell who served work on those and we also talked about the importance of essentials and ends solid biblical teaching in the church is on the point of the listings as as reasons why it's fair to believe that the church I belong to the church I attend is true and latter-day centuries is not. There is there is the central core of Christian doctrine, Michael named several and when you step outside of the essential for you to enter the realm of heresy and the art may come across as unloving. I know it feels that way to Latter Day Saints to say such a thing. I was simply asked them to consider the fact that their preaching teaching very similar. So for example was when I was training latter-day St. missionary on one of the questions that we were trained to ask investigators was if he were a Christian and attended church where Pastor got the authority to perform ordinances and that question implies that there pastor does not have recorded a mess of things that a lot of the same missionary will teach to someone is investigating the oldest church is that the LDS church, the only woman church that has led to record and so without Petra Gordon should have performed baptism investigator is still on the outside of Christianity motivated consider themselves to a better Christian Porter entire last or from the time following the model Jesus Christ is very super since it was Larson's teaching very similar so although sound abrasive and sound purple to hear someone say that therapies and doctrines upon which Latter Day Saints are heretical Latter Day Saints others select despair to to have that conversation should be done in love.

But his spirit have a conversation completely. I was just thinking my mind out. We think of loving meeting that you just accept everybody curl who they are and what they believe in.

You know, don't try to change them. But if you truly love someone and their believing or doing something that could lead them to eternal punishment. We love them and say nothing. How is that love so I think I agree entirely that were not being hateful by trying to teach them that trying to explain that we believe that certain of their teachings are are emphatically condemned in Scripture as being radical and and could lead one to shoot again were trying to help them we love them and care about them, want them to define and and have true loving saving relationship with Christ.

I was thinking of John chapter 8 where Jesus said very plainly says this is paraphrasing as I will do that if you do not believe that I am will die in your sins and it's not just saying that we need to believe that Jesus existed only set I am in the Greek it was a go. I mean, which is in the Greek Septuagint of the Old Testament and the Greek translation that same phrase, a GYN was used of God so Jesus was saying, you must believe that I am God or you will die in your sins. That's a something we cannot negotiate with researchers that we cannot negotiate and so denying those truths that possibly living a good life. Being a good person denies having been having having a really good disposition their certainty to be believe that our faults they could lead us to condemnation; you have thought, yes someone I Latter Day Saints I usually try to keep it pretty simple.

I mean there's a lot of just similar language were caulking and so just be real careful to draw a distinction with what they believing that what I believe. So one of the big questions that I will ask is you believe the grace of Jesus Christ is sufficient and no usually say yes it says in the book of Mormon's and so the problem then is it Christ's grace is sufficient that we don't need anything else. We don't need ordinances and we need to do ordinances then that means that Christ graces the mission and it just doesn't sound right to acknowledge that the grace of Christ is the patient, and nobody wants to take that position because obviously that's not anybody here that no that is so that's typically my my standard way of going in and is a little bit further to the discussion of how to save others. Basically to gospel others. Imputation, where Christ gives us his righteousness where that like a cloak in it, us in and our orderliness hinges on faith or the gospel amputation in the book of Mormon teaches that we must amputate all the sin, life in order to be more lean in with that mindset. As long as sin in our lives were in trouble because our wariness and design obedience and none of us are obedient and so that's where I had, I do gonna lie between Austin and Latter Day Saints know it is a different gospel. It's not a gospel located along like what I believe also very clearly that anyone teaches a different gospel than what is caught. Let them be encouraged so that we can't be saved by a false gospel and so one of us is right, and one of us is cursed and you know that there is a distinction there and we popped about about that distinction so permeated really good gospel and how it functions, is this how I want out to a latter-day St. about why my church is true and theirs is not.

That's really great. I group of do I think when I am when I'm never latter-day St. The three things that I feel like I need to hit because I needed in our who is God who is Christ.

What is the gospel because those are the that's the heart and soul of the gospel of article everything that we don't have those three things you can get everything else right but it will matter so I try to explain that I'm part of the church of Christ in the sense that also. I belong to a church that teaches the gospel that teaches the biblical God and a teaches a biblical Christ and they have question about that no list dive into it.

Okay if you don't think the Trinity is biblical and is going to so I try to start with one Godalming passages is one, and then usually at her and because is lots passages where it says is only one God will usually try to redefine, but not for a trust artist, the foundation of the court because we can get caught up in lots of other ancillary topics in the nestling to keep going back to that court yet. I agree with that being the measure that would have what was on the same forms online will were debating Latter Day Saints and through those threads will see so many nonessential paintings being debated in those forums and a lot of dignity. Christianity is just.

Why your turkey wrong here some historical aspect. I think the danger that is that you know a lot of historical stuff to improve them to bandages and some shady things leads to atheism.

That's where the tendency no but if you hacking up essential core doctrine that is a bridge to Christianity. And I think that's what we need to be copied about. Seated: will you said about us and infected really unilaterally recent history than trying to reconcile the typical historical record with the sanitized view of Mormonism is a restoration of pure Christianity and I got to the point where I realized that I was so dedicated to having admitted it had to do that or nothing of talk about the conversation I have Angela my wife about not digesting myself in the morning they had had to Mormonism or nothing.

I had submitted those puzzle pieces. Juvenile in my life and I think that true of talk about some on the Christian side of things who are also so dogmatic regard to their denominational use that some commanders and their fellowship with other believers and hundreds in their evangelism because they will focus on nonessentials and really become an idol and so I just go back to what matters is Christ will matter what he did for us on the cross of what matters is resurrection and postings are poor and therapies that are nonessential and/or interesting to study, but it's important that we not let those things become an idol worship is of God are worshipers of Christ and vast vestiges weird place in us? The theirs are called by Charles Haddon Spurgeon that I was trying to find the really short okay paragraph so Charles Haddon Spurgeon is a Baptist preacher, prince of preachers on he says here, I do not ask you whether you are Wesley in a Baptist or Presbyterian.

My only question is are you born again.

I think that's really important to keep up with an evidence headset. Do you know Christ that's about what matters most, and you have a love for the biblical Christ. That's that's something RC spells at one of his sermons. He says how can we know that were saved we have any love at all for the biblical Christ that a different Christ, the Christ, the Scripture abilities eternal God, the one who was God made flesh. 20 died for the sins of his people you believe in that Christ did you have any love. Because you can only have love that Christ saved true true love so that everything which costly reporting back to Christ is in any system that pushes us away from Christ is is or art to trusting anything but him/her.

Salvation is a different gospel had a different yeah release that was great is the way he said it so any other costs, negative okay data/loaded onto the top on.

Would you have any resources, books or websites or anything that you would recommend her questioning Latter Day Saints may be considering joining a church, but don't know where ago see the NC never really like the divided red website a lot, but that doesn't really help nowhere to go but it's good questioning painter.

I've heard a lot of good things about nine marks I can vouch for personally, but I heard that nine marks is kind of a ministry where they try to find churches that follow certain biblical standards.

You can look at the website@9marks.org that could be one place to go to. Personally, what I would do is I would ask when anybody asked me should I go to district at church. I don't ask what denomination, it is necessarily agitated if you can find a website if you have one.

Check it out and usually know how much a list of what they believe and I would read that list compared to some of things we talked about unity teach the triune God, the Trinity did a teach Christ as our Savior did a teach that the saved by grace, a lot of faith alone in Christ alone. Those kind of things because this can be a really easy way to see if the church that you are considering this is a solid church to join are they studying the book during the sermons. Besides the Bible red flag in an and are in our church like for Sunday school sometimes will have a book that will study, but it's always a solid book.

So you know if your as long as I think that this the actual worship service should be focused on Scripture but I don't see a problem with studying percentage goes up that but I don't either.

Either I was talking about the meeting worship should come on (Nicholas Lebanon was studying about all and all merciful.

The pastor's name is written right now are preaching the book of Mormon Rhonda unloaded like that that video goes in the hibernation every four months and then out of nowhere Mormon the cooking at 20 times a day on all the groups on Mike go back to ignoring. I know if he knew more about him, they would not post those things is so he favors the other branches of Mormon is so much more than mainstream Mormonism. I don't have the resources or groups or websites. We just needed to slow virus that would be to have an open mind, considering leaving letters, church and joining a Christian church. I would say you do lose that recommended Google search. Some Christian churches in the area or websites read their student's ability generally find the little bit of a recession, but in most cases, and you deliver and see what their core beliefs are to have an open mind with regard to music and its worship style when you're Latter Day Saints. There is a tendency to as Mattie was saying only notice that everything is essential and if you have a mindset you're going to really struggle as you try to make a transition to Christian church is small things will seem like good things that's really an opportunity to time in the transition is a difficult goal realization come to to feel Latter Day Saints for your homework or number of years were born covenant for your entire life and reached the point where you are willing to walk away. Her hands still see Dr. after Jesus status delivered according to miniature sock that you are wrong in many respects, but that humility is is discouraged need to be able to settle into an auditor Christian church because you need to be able to walk in, sit down through the sermon for what it is and so I've my advice is to have an open mind willing to experience things that are new and different than what is experienced in the past be willing to listen without among filter and Louise Jeter, the gospel preached. That's really important. I can add that to I think also there's there's no shame in attending a church for a while and you feel that the that the Navy they don't focus on the Bible and often a sermon or something felt off for now. I think like you said you can have the scale of Mormon is authorized and it takes time for that to where often creative kind of get this idea that something else is different doesn't make it wrong, but also the same time, I've known no baby Christians that are given really bad advice or that are emailed there they attend a church that that kind of how to set us. They attend a church where it's not as biblically sound and actually this is dangerous so it's dangerous also to go church hopping note to never settle down in one single church to go from church to church to church and never settling down, but also to be tied without willing to concede that maybe this church is the right place to be so easy. There's a certain amount of flexibility. I think they need to recognize and and you really need to find I would recommend also finding a solid Karen a coworker or somebody that's been a Christian for a long time that they can mentor you are giving advice on certain things and you know that their theology is sound. You know that could be a real huge blessing as well. I kinda wish I had that my transition is kind of on my own. A little bit just reading a lot of books and watching live videos but it would be nice to have somebody there to ask questions and to just get their perspective, but but again it should be a mentor that has shown that there sounded a show the marks of a Christian is growing in faith and in in Christ and over the years, the shows maturity in a setting that's important to you can find that that's a real unsinkable blessing absolutely hundred percent agreeing and one other thing I would add that if at all possible, find somebody to go to church with meeting Mormonism is an incredibly lonely journey and sometimes going into Christianity feel lonely to and I would when I first started going and I was just going by myself and I did on the grounds.

I just feel so awkward and just down sitting there alone, so I recommend buying a small group and reaching out to pasture and the sitting down and talking to him to help so much and got some of the people in your corner and you're not making the journey by yourself or your having having solid doctors also have to work at is also important and I think it's important that they know you that you are just a number or that you know that you get ignored. They should be interested in your well-being, your spiritual well-being and hopefully there there at least sensitive to a transition of my living in New York. There really aren't a lot of Latter Day Saints are Latter Day Saints, so my pastors really had no idea about Mormonism other than kind of what they teach in a few things, but they gave non-people to come out of every walk of life. Every religion you know into Christianity and so hated marriages that huge blessing to a traditional marriage is very loving. They were not pushy about me understanding everything all at once. You know, there are likely there very much willing to go up my pace and help me to understand certain things and they knew that I read a lot of books anyway so there that I don't think they really worry that much about the doctrine part but the really made an effort to welcome the congregation and I was thousands of blessing because like you said it's such a lonely road like you leaving LDS church on your own and and I and I wish I found my congregation sooner, because I was by myself for months and was just a loneliest experience in the coming into this church, and he is just like the like.

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