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EP267: Fat Bear Week: Who Will be the Fat Bear Champion of Alaska's Katmai National Park?, The Last Days of Kodachrome and “The NOT So Wild, Wild West”

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April 18, 2022 3:05 am

EP267: Fat Bear Week: Who Will be the Fat Bear Champion of Alaska's Katmai National Park?, The Last Days of Kodachrome and “The NOT So Wild, Wild West”

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April 18, 2022 3:05 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, Lian Law is a ranger at Brooks Camp in Katmai National Park and Preserve, and she’s here to share about Fat Bear Week, where bears compete to be the “Fat Bear Champion”. The grandsons of Dwayne Steinle, the Korean War veteran who founded Dwayne's Photo, tell us the story of the time the world descended upon Parsons, Kansas to get their Kodachrome film developed for the last time. P.J. Hill, rancher and co-author of “The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier,” explains the misunderstanding behind the American West.

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00:00 - Fat Bear Week: Who Will be the Fat Bear Champion of Alaska's Katmai National Park?

10:00 - The Last Days of Kodachrome

35:00 - “The NOT So Wild, Wild West”

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American stories assure where Americans store and the American people today were going to hear from Leon law in Alaska. Leon is a Ranger Brooks camp and took my national Park and preserve she's here to share the story about that. There the March madness style bracket bears compete to be the fat there champion. There's not many places that you can work and say sorry I'm late. There is a bear highway and not be completely valid excuse but that does happen affects To rangers as well as visitors. My national Park and preserve is comprised of just over 4 million acres or so. It's located in Southwest Alaska one of the things that we are perhaps best known for is our high concentration of brown bears bears are not true. How many days they actually go through a state called torpor. But here in My bears into the den anywhere from late October to early December and they sit in April or May. But once the Internet then they don't eat or drink anything but relies solely off their fat reserves.

So essentially they need to eat an entire year's worth of food in six months or less. During this time in the den, they will lose, perhaps about 1/3 of their body weight and even when the spring it's still a lead time for them so bears will continue to lose weight so he just speaks to the importance of getting fat, essentially during waking hours so fat barely began in 2014 and it started simply as they are Tuesday, one day competition held on our social media and the purpose was to highlight the hard work of the bears and our healthy ecosystem here at My. It became so successful that it has now expanded into fat bear week. So for bears here equals survival and success. A bear is a healthy bear so fat bear week is My annual celebration of success and survival. So it is essentially a competition. It is a single elimination bracket where bears face-off head-to-head matchups and voters get to choose the ultimate winner.

The main bracket consists of 12 different bears and voters will choose who advances to the next round and ultimately crown the fact there champion. Unfortunately, our bears aren't really the kind who would cooperate if we try to put them on the scale.

So what we can do is we can only estimate their weight, so a couple of years ago we did experiment using lidar scanning which is typically used in civil engineering for scant buildings or similar things. It provides a measurement of volume and through that we can kind of get an estimate of weight so most adult males weigh 600 to 900 pounds in mid-summer and by October or November. Large adult males can weigh well over a thousand pounds so you'll see huge fluctuations. A good example. For instance, is 747 he was the champion of 2020 and that we believe that he is our largest bear known to use Brooks River was estimated to weigh 1400 pounds, so he is a big guy. One of the special things about Katmai is we actually get to see the same bears over and over, and sometimes not just throughout the season but over the course of several years, and through that you come to know that each of these bears are individual. What type of fishing technique. They like to use or where a bear prefers to finish for the Otis was last year's that there champion and actually that was his fourth title claim he is one of our older bears here at Brooks and he employs a sit and wait kind of method a method of patients of letting the fish come to him over the course we get to see bears not just him, but other bears as well taken fish after fish. Sometimes we seem bears eat upwards of 40 fish in a day. 128 Grazer. She isn't really known for being assertive and we will often see her fishing in prime spots because of her assertiveness, so 909 was a first time mom and she had a spring tub. So first year in their life tub and 99 and codification have brought it over the bank to eat and we saw this little spring tub charge and other bears who had gotten too close and was begging for fish so we get to witness really incredible actions and sometimes food is so plentiful right that bears are released from some of that competition for resources so we also get to see bears play with bears occasionally. So what you get to witness that Katmai is pretty remarkable.

We have seen so much positive response to fat bear week we see people incorporating it into classrooms.

We see people campaigning for their favorite bear.

People have bracket parties at work and during fat bear week. We also have many live broadcasts on the beer cans and people will tune into that and have live watch parties as well. So we see how widespread it really has become hearing from people all over the world as they participate in voting and last year we had nearly 800,000 votes cast. So during fat bear week.

We are really holding up Katmai and specifically Brooks camp in particular on a pedestal that truly exemplifies the richness of My national Park and the Bristol Bay area of Alaska bear week is a celebration of success in a terrific job on the production by medicine and special verdict.

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There's our own Monty Montgomery with the store story begins in Joplin, Missouri, the hometown of Joshua Indira Carter, the grandsons of doing Steinway, but they had another name for: Bob all those kind of his grip on the Wii: so euros voicing Bob Bob and stuff like that and Josh are very very close to her grandfather, partly because so we have a sister figures are immune to Josh and when our mother was pregnant with her sister. She was on bed rest with not doing very well for many many months and so that's actually at that point is when my grandfather was tired from the business to come over Joplin before it always been kind of a treat of getting to go spend the week grandparents getting to spend everyday year with our grandfathers are so much fun you live with us and took care of us and took us to school and we spent all day everyday with her grandfather and our grandfather was a very curious person. He likes to learn and was always interested in finding out about new things. He traveled all over the world all over the country. Learning anything that interest those something that he always was very good with us about as well you take us as little boys and we would just drive all over the place. They take us in the shop sure you take is to we went to a PowerPoint. However, one that I remember we were driving through the field I remembered I was probably six or seven years old last principal. What is that massive thing out. There's just outside of Pittsburgh Kansas he said was a PowerPoint wanted to find out how it works suitable shirt and he pulls up to the front gate of the power plant.

All six of Joshua probably eight pieces will come on boys back here and they want to learn how the power plant works. Can someone give us a tour and the front gate doesn't well supposedly called the manager the PowerPoint down and we go to our two hour tour. The power plant 9/11 world. That's kind of how he was of you know he always wanted to find out how something works or what was going on and our grandfather first got interested in photography when using high school he started out doing wedding photography and shooting children things like that.

That's what he spent summers doing saving up money to buy more photography equipment and you never really thought that he was be a photographer as his profession as a hobby. Use something that you thought that you go on and get some other type of business job or some other type career, but you really enjoyed photography all the time Vincent started shooting high school. He did college and then before he graduated college. She was drafted for the Korean War and so he went to Korea. He actually arrived in Korea just as the war was coming to an end and he was a crystal writer for the radio but he also did photography while he was there and he was also kind of a practical jokester and so the guys would play pranks on each other and one of the stories he told us was the radar technicians would shoot the radar at him as he was walking across with his bag of flashbulbs and he would doesn't like it would shine and he always flashbulbs and go off all at once and so that was always a fun story.

The utilities time in Korea getting zapped at the radar, so that always flashbulbs of go off developed somewhat of a reputation Korea as a jokester just said and some of the officers came and wanted to play a joke on one of the higher ranking officers and so they got her grandfather to jail and take a picture of the officer and then went and took a different picture of the latrine and superimposed it went during the developing process and the officers gave it to the higher ranking officer is a joke. The higher officer was so impressed by that is a great joke he actually got my my grandfather job to go in and take photos of the whole fleet as they were leaving because you processes photography skills.

When he returned from Korea got his degree in math and business and yet a good friend who was in the Navy and they both just got out around the same time and so one of the things that they really enjoyed from their travels was pizza and there were no pizza places in Southeast Kansas at that time, and so they decided to go in together and opened the first Pizza Pl. in Parsons.

It didn't do very well and become a sat down and reevaluated what he wanted to do and in what kind of business and said well I always loved photography.

Maybe I need to do something with photographer so he became a salesman for film actually go to Wichita on Kansas City and Tolson by wholesale film and come back and sell it to drugstores in the local area.

He did that for two or three years. Really any realize that a lot of the drugstores that he was selling were sending all the developing off to Tulsa consider Wichita to have it done. Does the work. Anyone doing developing renewal labs in this area said I got a lot of experience in darkroom developing and so my grandfather, he kept selling film during the day and night. He offered an overnight developing service just a one-man kind of shop that he had spent all night darkroom developing film so that I can be ready. It was a very slow process to begin between quickly made a name for himself in the photo processing in the street because of his innovative strategies and best piece of work. He had photo huts, so little kiosks all over the region where people could drop off the film and it all get processing and sent back out huts and so that was a very successful endeavor for him in the late 70s. Our mom tells us a funny story to about think about the game film football games.

They would film at all and all the coaches in the whole area would be sitting out in our front lobby, all sitting next to each other after they just had a big game against each of the night before to pick up other game so we we offered an overnight service to get all the game film ready so they can go and watch the next day.

I think one of the next big things that really launched the business. I think it's always been told was the great this film debacle of 1983. For those who might not know or don't remember just film was film as the name suggests, wrapped around a plastic disc inside a camera. The photos were low-quality and they were harder process than normal film, but that did not mean people didn't use them is Duane's photo was about to find out a major retailer offered a major special for Christmas in 1983 and that was 80% off of this film processing and it is guaranteed that you have your just film processing return viewed by Christians. They did this, only about a week and half or two weeks before Christmas and anything is to be big think this film was not popular at all. At that point and so they thought. We just need to get rid of all this just turned out that it exploded and they had several tractor-trailers full of this film that needed to get process and so there is a lab down in Arkansas.

That just could not handle it. And so they started calling all of the other photo labs within a 200 mile radius. Can you help us to help us and no one was everyone turned it away and said we have no interest in wind process that was just film especially week before Christmas and my grandfather said send us all the trucks will figure it out. They work all through the day and all through the night for about 10 straight days and got all of this distal process by Christmas, and a kind of being able to accomplish that endeared him so much to some of the major national retailers that ever since that point started getting a lot more working contracts from some of the major national retailers is made, this name for himself. Right before Christmas and and then through the 2000's. We were one of the largest and ultimately the last Kodachrome and you been listening to Joshua and Dirk Carter told the story of their grandfather Mr. story about so much more.

Destroy that innovation is a story about change and how many people remember photo match those little huts all over the country. When you ran film to the roller is a renaissance of film and old-school development is not how most of us process our photographs anymore. It's instantaneous. It's on our phones and we touch them along when we come back story of the last days of Kodachrome on L American millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're walking past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage. It can seem confusing, but it doesn't have to be this@uhcmedicarehealth.com to learn more United healthcare helping people live healthier lives. I know everything there is to know about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my State Farm agent make sure my business days piping hot and I think cool and confident.

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In the early 2000's digital was starting to take over film was in decline and said we were ultimately the last Kodachrome lab Kodachrome released in 1935 by the codec Corporation was the first real success in color photography. It was a huge deal in the film industry but processing. It was a bit of a hassle. Kodachrome has a very very complex and difficult fracture chemical formulation. The reason why so popular is it had extremely vibrant colors, but he only got as extremely vibrant colors. Because of this very, very intense and very cold process to produce it due to both EPA regulations as well as just manufacturing cost codec decided in the late 2000's, that it was. Not going to be effective to producing it. And so they also did not feel like his big investment find new chemicals that would be able to. The news got out, six, eight months ahead of time that come into 2010, there would be no more Coke from process and by that point we were already the very last world that was processing those last six months work is a really just crazy time for the company were showing up from other countries with thousands of roles and boxes begging to make sure there's got and before the last process chemicals ran out by the very end of it in 2010 when it finally stops national news was broadcasting from the parking lot and people were camped out in the backfield is crazy event really. So in 2017 a bunch of film folks knew the story and decided to make a movie about so that movie is called Kodachrome and this movie is now made it onto Netflix and people are seeing it and so we are having a resurgence of people sending well something else we've seen since Kodachrome to a lot of folks of the making.

I guess you call it pilgrimage to Parsons to drop the film off personally will have group once or twice a week that comes in and I'll come in from each side of the country say I just drove here did 14 hours in the car to drop this film off. I just wanted to see the place and see where it all happens will give them to her and let them see everything that goes on in the lab. An interesting side note, Joshua and Derek worked full-time employees of the grandfather's business.

During the whole Kodachrome fiasco so hardly end up there and why saws working for a large national consulting firm actually doing business turnarounds and house were not allowed from Joplin, 2018. My grandfather had asked me to come in and look at some different options of how can we grow the company or how can we get more of a presence online is in a lot of ways the company was still kind of operating in 1999, so in 2018 is really certain look at the company and see what the options were with it and he was actually running the business full-time up until the day he died. It was looking like the business might finally close after 60 years and did not want that to happen and we take over some 2730 so we went through the pretty long process. We first got here trying to learn it. You know we had knowledge about film cameras and things growing up just being in this family.

It's hard not to learn a lot of things pick it up from grandfather but in terms of actual film processing things.

There is a thirsty learning curve for us. We first got here, not something that there's a lot of folks who have been 2025 30 years made their whole career very good about really being experts in the industry and service and learned a lot from them and also we found a number things are grandfather really wanted to make sure that a lot of the symptoms passed down and knows first going through his office and in his desk and things.

One of the most helpful things he actually wrote it in the late 1980s guide to photofinishing that had all the notes for the lab of everything you need to remember and everything that you need to do to be able to have everything running the building really well and we found continue to find a lot of those things so poor over as much of that information here as we possibly can to make sure that we really become experts in this field is we don't necessarily we're not brought up in it when it is in its heyday in the 80s and 90s and also there's been a huge resurgence of film months younger people much like the resurgence in vinyl records for us going in and trying to deal with ever-increasing volumes of now it has been probably the biggest challenge for us is being able to use equipment designed decades and decades ago and so we've had to also trying to creative with our doing is looking at.

We got a 3D printer in the back for printing out errors in different parts of things were always looking for people who can help us and it's amazing. A lot of these people either knew or knew of our grandfather and will call them because we see that a you used to work in the industry or you make a part that can be used so I remember selling that to your grandfather in 1985 I love to help you, and a lot of people come out of retirement specifically to help us and help get things back on Crystal reaping the benefits of the relationships that are grandfather made three decades ago. We've also learned a lot more about our grandfather from being this business of talking to people who knew him in a different way from from how we knew him. Those stories have been some of the most interest we were talking to the head of one of the big national organizations and said that his first encounter.

He told me about his first encounter with my grandfather when he was a very young man said that at all of these tradeshows. My grandfather used to organize a big card game for all the CEOs of all the retail organizations in codec and all those people made all common and you have a card game. He said he is the first time he went he is expecting my father to let everyone when trying to business and set out my grandfather took all her money and they are all upset my grandfather sell what you want your money back and give you some business. I'll give you a discount and he said he got a lot of business that way because everybody does. That is hilarious that Duane went and took all their money of the card game yet. I was that was one that we'd never heard before and know about, but there's a lot of those kind of stories that we learn about our grandfather by meeting people who knew him that we wanted to have known otherwise.

Recently we wanted to continue as long as possible. We want to keep having film grow that something that we really try industry with young folks.

A lot of the new people who are shooting film or 18 to 25 and we're very very excited. It's something that they're picking it up want them to shooting films.

Copy your passion for the rest of their lives.

And if you know, we can support them and that that is our goal was until the last roll of film on earth is is out there and been developed articles it open and a great job on the production by Monty Montgomery. Special thanks to Joshua and Derek Carter sure the story of your grandfather also special thanks to Catrina Hein for finding the story in getting us the audio story of the last days of Kodachrome in the last Kodachrome lab in the United States and William a family business story. We love them here on the show story of the last days of Kodachrome here on our American millions will make Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage. It can seem confusing, but it doesn't have to be this UHC Medicare health plans.com to learn more United healthcare helping people live healthier lives. I know everything there is to know about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my State Farm agent make sure my business days piping hot and I think cool and confident they are small business owners to help you best. State Farm is in your corner and on like a good neighbor. There call your local State Farm agent for quote today doing household chores can Artie be time-consuming and tedious. There's nothing more daunting than facing piles and piles of laundry that need to be done can be overwhelming for anyone. If you want to get those larger laundry loads down bright and get back to your life.

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These are things we might envision only think of the wild West. Not to mention the many films that portray exactly that. But what if the West wasn't as wild as we thought, co-author of the not so wild wild West. PJ Hill is here to share that maybe the West had a rule of law, not one where you stay, but rule of law. Nonetheless, my grandfather came up from number 292 horse ranch for a couple of years as southeastern Montana part of the big openhearted buddy around and started his own ranch. The ranch that actually became the PJ ran after him. Johnson of course I was born to call me PJ Hill I going to go to work at University Chicago with the thought that I would probably go back to our cattle. I got married my wife back to her, ranch operated for another 40 years. I became fascinated by history of the last human soul coordination and cooperation problem. That was my back once he given to this question. That's when PJ realized the misunderstanding behind the American West West was not nearly as wild, woolly is oftentimes not a place of disorder is not a place of rampant bank robberies. All things they did figure out ways to cooperate property rights worked very well then why do we so often refer to the West as a place of anarchy and chaos. Several things that influenced part of it was almost no presence of the federal government throughout the 19th century was pretty much whatever rules it can come up with power was there for everybody to equal power structure would be something that would cause people to say so.

The West became, if you will grab experiment was a place of law figuring out ways cooperation overcoming difficulties.

There really was a culture of individual worth one of the reasons why you end up with gunfights or fistfights bars was when people thought that they were being disrespected, so the West was a place of mutual respect rights rules that work very well so so interesting and complex problems when were the times when their self enforced by first they needed a way to transport and traveling across the plains alone was a dangerous thing to note, they formed groups called wagon train. Seem like this would be a real recipe well armed people crossing a lot of space thinking a lot about how they want to get someplace to get wealthy and so these wagon trains usually were 40 to 50 wagons in size and the question is how to organize well.

Interestingly enough, they thought about that before they wrote the Constitution, or a contract, it was unique for each wagon train and they specified also specified. The participants were how much each participant was contributing to the wagon train livestock auction were off much pulling like wagons themselves. How much food they set out the rules for travel appointed one person is the wagon master person had to be in terms of the rate of speed every day to move up one notch on the way.

So, sooner or later you got to the front and everybody else is just that, rules for solving disputes all doubt. You murder along like Persian Burgers well really is not a law we think we should wait we can get everybody back East trial case we got this written contract specifies how we will go about jury they heard the others guilty and wagon trains were very well organized, bottom-up people deciding to come together to settle disputes to make their way west. She wagon trains as one of the many examples talk of people going out ways to pull figuring out ways. Another reason they were traveling in the West was to my difficult this is another situation where it could be disastrous. Without rule of law will how much can you mind to just move up and down the stream: pan anywhere you want to know what the conflict will be lots of overlap will set up some clear rules about mining claims the person that found the gold first usually didn't get the claim 3 miles of street.

He got a claim that was larger off much twice what the other people could get okay that person's claim was limited, so the rules about what was necessary to establish the claim about how large the claim could be no violence is expensive violences difficult something that approaches the rule of law that procreates orders that are short of the system so mining camps did a pretty good job though their scarce resources in the process.

If you're not sure you want to use up to hiring a full-time enforcer will enforcer kept saying I might go so there were no Sheriff's would simply happen was when somebody violation prior to the All the minors would form a jewelry person that was being charged was allowed to present their case.

The person that they claim big violet Turkish surgeon once again maintaining challenges pretty expensive.

What they did was simply banished a person you are found guilty, so this is one of the themes throughout my book with Terry Emerson on the American West is that violence is a pretty expensive way to order your life if you can figure out ways to avoid violence.

They try to do that so that was all of these sorts of rules that were forced would seem in a reasonable short of what what about property rights how to establish rights to land in the West Homestead act of 1862 established rights 260 acres that oftentimes it was difficult to find water. The one with the Homestead act on workable because of lack of access to water, but it also was on workable terms of size and the West 160 acres would not suffice that they expanded it 640 acres in 1916, which still was entirely too small workable cattle ranch to give you a sense of my family cattle ranch with 25,000 acres that could not make us cattle kings.

We were not told of the largest operators around you can imagine, it took 25,000 acres to be a decent sized economic the Homestead act even when it got up to 640 acres just on workable so we imposed a top-down system where there had been a bottom-up system of rights of directors of established sheep producers established that was for workable torture branches replace that top-down short so we developed pretty good institutions from the bottom up but I would also say what happened in the West is Evans of the problem of power and wind power can violate what we think of as standard rules of law.

The basic features of rule of law called universal human dignity. People are all work as we think about lessons from the West. One would be very careful about imposing too many top-down look at the community think about what church the things they want. How do they go about solving conflict and I think many community-based resources solutions may evolve to become law can be very useful whenever we start collaborating power, then there is the effort to try to capture power can be used well there's real danger to be used badly. Keep in mind that we do want to recognize more moral standing before the great job on that piece by Madison and a special thanks to PJ Hill's book, the not so wild wild West property rights on the frontier is available at Amazon and the usual suspects that Western culture cultural individual worth mutual respect and mutual rights of Western culture I think are still there. The story of a not so wild wild West law series here on our American Medicare coverage decisions for next year and United healthcare can help you feel confident about your choices for those eligible Medicare annual enrollment runs from October 15 through December 7. If you're working past age 65. You might be able to delay Medicare enrollment. Depending on your employer coverage. It can seem confusing, but it doesn't have to be this UHC Medicare health plans.com to learn more United healthcare helping people live healthier lives. It's dramas you may know me from the recap on LA TB abdominal podcast life as a gringo, to every Tuesday and Thursday will be talking real and unapologetic about all things light Latin culture and everything in between. From someone who's never quite listen to life as a gringo on the iHeartRadio app or web, you get podcast brought to you by State Farm like a good neighbor, State Farm is there a better future for everyone. Combining the best of humanity's education everything that will be connected with a critical juncture in human history. Touch and experience the very latest in technology WC Las Vegas October 28-30