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Winston Churchill: Walking With Destiny, Uncle Bud's Last Days and The Man Who Milks Snakes for a Living

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July 13, 2022 3:05 am

Winston Churchill: Walking With Destiny, Uncle Bud's Last Days and The Man Who Milks Snakes for a Living

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July 13, 2022 3:05 am

On this episode of Our American Stories, English historian Andrew Roberts, author of Churchill: Walking With Destiny, tells the story of this remarkable leader. Our regular contributor from Delaware, Brent Timmons, shares the story of spending time with his Uncle Bud in his last days. Nathaniel Frank, CEO of MToxins Venom Lab, tells us how he produces high volumes of snake and scorpion venom for the production of antivenom, which saves lives.

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00:00 - Winston Churchill: Walking With Destiny

23:00 - Uncle Bud's Last Days

35:00 - The Man Who Milks Snakes for a Living

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Winston Churchill became prime minister about 6 o'clock in the evening on the morning of day. I don't think that invaded in the West Elgin got some bad say to date from Churchill said that I felt as if I will do my cost life operations style gave him his tremendous sense was the very many brushes with death that he had his life nearly died aged 10 died a drowning accident on Lake Geneva.

Title VII house file need not vote to car crashes and plane crashes is very nearly run a fat by a taxi. You'll as well. Costly school in peacetime time. Of course he had missed breakfast as well once said that seven there's nothing more exhilarating in life subsets without results show fat without results from his 21st birthday Cuba all the way through and see when he was an ex-cabinet minister in the first mobile in the trenches. Churchill was involved in the loss. Great cavalry charge took part in the set cavalry charge in September 1898 he killed four dervishes on that day. It was a tremendously vicious and bloodied Mende and Brady was killed himself on Churchill was captured in 1899 on putting the prisoner, and he great sensational prison escape managed primary cross 300 miles of enemy territory and get back to one occasion during the first 12 went outside is 70 trenches dug out trend is Crown Heights basic shell came and hit the dugouts and decapitated everyone inside, so he soul will cling stopping you the photos so that she knew the pain of its share terror of its and so when he sent men into battle himself. Later on he knew exactly what he was doing. Winston Churchill grew up in the very apex of Victorian society.

He was the grandson of the Jeep. He was born in apprentice and not just any Opana's leading Palace is the grandest of the British policies. In fact, when King George III, when surrounded, he said that we have nothing like this. Meanwhile family had no policies anything like say grand is blending that it's true. Yet, it doesn't necessarily mean that his childhood truly entitlements of that privilege was a happy one because his relationship with his parents was always extremely difficult. Churchill's father told Randall Churchill who was a very successful Victorian politician and Chancellor of the Exchequer was somebody who never soul the incipient greatness. Churchill never eat very much of the school actually treated him very often with contempt spines being despised by his father.

Churchill did not allow that to effectively continue to love his father even after his father's death in 1895 when Churchill was 20 years old and he breaks his father's 240 biography. He sold out his father's friends to care anecdotes about his father. He adopted his father's political views Tory democracy and his father's way of actually holding himself. He very much loved his father and so his whole life is an attempt to impress the shade of his long dead father Winston Churchill's mother, Jenny, Jerome, was born in Brooklyn, but she was very un-American ready in regard to motherhood the fact that she never took much news this affect children either Winston or Winston's younger brother Jack.

She was going to policies constantly. She was a great society beauty, but she was not somebody to spend very much time with the children to the point that the aeration is full when Winston was 10 years old. She had spent six hours with him in the first 6 1/2 months about yeah just as with his father.

His mother's taking a note to self him didn't allow Churchill to hold it against them. He worshiped his mother. He continued on his life to help parents he bail her out financially and to love and he said when she died she shone for me, like the evening stall brilliance distance. I was thinking is a terrible thing to say about Churchill is very unlike the other Victorian aristocrats of his agent Lawson backgrounding that he was willing to show emotion. They didn't like to do that. They had stiff upper lips. He on the other hand would actually cry on some 50 occasion in public. During the second world war. And so I think he was more than throwback to an earlier aristocratic air in the Regency era when people didn't mind wearing their hearts on their sleeves and this was strength ready because laypeople were surprised when they saw him cry in public. Nonetheless, they knew that it meant that he was feeling genuine emotions not just buckling it will and you're listening to Andrew Roberts told the story of Winston Churchill and his mother, my goodness, what a story about his mother but she say not a very present mother, yet he held it against her all shone for me like the evening star brilliant just when we come back more of this remarkable figure not afraid to wear his heart asleep and lead with a motion on our Americans. If you love to tell about this great country and especially the stories of America's rich past. Know that all of our stories about American history innovation culture and faith are brought to us by the grateful Hillsdale College placement. Students study all the things that are beautiful life all the things if you can't get the Hillsdale bills that will come to you with your free and terrific online courses Hillsdale.edu to learn more. I know everything about running a coffee shop for small business insurance.

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In the second mobile church was once lost about the techniques the secrets of the trade and he said really three things. First walls you need to keep your sentences short, things have too many sub tools is the sentence otherwise.

People track. Then he said keep the word show stage show off how clever you all by using the words instead use the short time in a sentence. If possible, use old English trying to use language that is understandable by the previous millennium words come from the Anglo-Saxon, when those three things together in a sense, much and they make the point much more vividly than not only did sentences for people trusted Winston Churchill that was tremendously close. It is reasonable because speechwriter Vincent other people from the outside came straight from him soon that strong position when he became because they you have been for decades throughout the night is about autism yielding up to and therefore they trust personal physical courage and wasted his life. So it was expected in the second mobile as well to the front whenever he possibly could be held back by his soldiers install from many occasions, getting to thanks to the front go up on CDM so as to fly, he would be up his wife is advises Jesus its way to do this, but felt it was necessary to be as close to the action as possible as he had been only through his life in the sleep Ralph that Winston Churchill spends so much time traveling. He was in many ways the person kept the big three together of Roosevelt installed that by traveling 110,000 miles outside the kingdom. Very often the radius. The Luftwaffe is filled with U-boats. He went to nonpressurized cabins on occasion struck by lightning in the middle of the Atlantic and instrumentation that it was a classic of his tremendous courage and some historians of claims that Winston church was opposed to DJ.

This is absolute rubbish really since June 1940 say the same month.

The lady altering stuff to look into plans for getting us back on what he did was an early the hasty and even more dangerous attack across the channel for the back of the Atlantic was one and before that was complete air superiority Winston Churchill lost the general election of 26 July 1945.

Even though the war against Japan was still going on in the war against Germany that even one that may and this is some surprising people because he was personally very popular in Britain box. We have a system whereby he said he standing for one constituency one. But where the conservatives were standing in that the constituencies and they were very least, because they have been the government. The time of the outbreak of the second mobile they been responsible for appeasement stay with the largest policy and the national government in the 1930s, so it wasn't Winston Churchill who was personally being punished by the British electric. It was the conservative party led nonetheless that did mean that he was. Office is his wife clemency and said to him on that day that it might be a blessing in disguise and church replied from where I'm sitting.

It seems quite remarkably well disguised Churchill very much considers himself to be half American because of his mother, but he also very much considered his views to be America. His belief in democracy, his belief in human rights. These are all things that he recognized by powerful transatlantic concepts and the ones to which he dedicated his life. He visited American a few 16 times and visited whatever 40 state by the time he became prime minister and said he knew America fall back to all the politicians. Great job on the production by Monty Montgomery and a special thanks to Andrew Roberts began his book is Churchill walking with destiny and my goodness traveled 110,000 miles during combat the physical and moral courage of the spam remarkable what really struck me most is that he had no poster wrote his own speeches.

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It was now May 10 ticket needed to go to work and left me to sit with Bud and arrived in Louisville on May 4. Final visit to help in any way I could open my laptop to do some work better, and instead open the story I'd written about the first visit with our kids to Louisville 2006, the gush of emotion overcame me. As I read the story. We eventually made three more summer trips to see Bud and take every one of them was a precious time since I'd arrived, but it's not much of the time. My intention to time I visit. When he was still comfortable failed he could muster up the strength to sit with me and talk a few hours each day. I labored over what to discuss with him. I wondered what he would want to talk about.

I let them take the lead as much as he wanted, and initiated some discussions about topics I wanted to discuss from a list I made when he first broke the news to me.

Then one morning that labor ceased. I heard Bud stirring and found he had gotten into the shower after he finished and returned to bed, pulled up a chair beside it. About the time he said how you doing son. I broke down trying to control my emotions.

I looked away and sensed him waiting for it to pass. Once it did.

I told him that what I liked about writing was the fact I can look back at what I've written. See what I was thinking at the time, see the change between then and now, yes. What a change from the we launched into a two hour conversation. It was wonderful. It was relaxing there was no labor discussed what matters most.

I told him the part of his influence on my life was that he had done his best to impart what you learned from life to me that it shaped the way I think it was an impressive feat on his part. Given the fact that while we are similar in temperament.

We are drastically different in some core beliefs. When I saw he was tiring and as the time approached for the hospice nurse to arrive. I left him to rest. The nurse arrived a little late, but once she left, but wanted to talk more.

We set another few hours and he poured out more thoughts.

Many of them about his struggles with his relationship with his father. This will become a routine over the next two days, but would rest in bed than muster the strength to either get up or have me sit by her side and talk many of the conversations revolved around the major events and relationships that shaped his life molded his thinking and drove him to do certain things. We discussed how the tingle blood from his grandfather Asher had been passed on to his father lives to bug me through my mother now to my sons Elias and Asher. That blood seems to produce very complicated, multifaceted man, we could put her fingers on that imprint and every one of the man I just mentioned. As we talked, I could easily identify the tingle influence in my life, that blood produces men seem to end up carrying a great due to the mind to create some the actions it tends to lead us to. We talked about how that weight was finally lifted at least partially in the life of the age of 44. He described it as being freed from a chain free from bondage having that great weight lifted off his shoulders. The conservative mind of what discuss with my uncle resolved so. We both wanted to discuss the same thing. The things that have the greatest impact on our lives. Things that shaped who we become made it clear that he had done a great deal to shape who I have become among the many influences in my life. Part of who I am asked to do our tingle blood part of it has to do with his lifelong attempt to share what he had learned in life I felt like in these last days he wanted reassurance yet accomplished a positive influence to some degree, it was easy for me to these last conversations he was reminding me of who I yes I am a Timmons not influences for another story, but I'm also tingle. I've understood that influence since my teenage years and talking about it only became more apparent.

We have our faults yes but working through those faults makes us better men. The very act of working through them makes us stronger. I'd come to help uncle Bud and Bud's last days. Instead, it was, but helped me. He reminded me that it takes a lifetime to complete the work of influencing those around us. It is slow and calculated work and requires great patience and determination. When the work is done we can rest knowing we have completed the task. It was his last great gift.

Thank you. Today before I was to leave I asked whether the timing of my departure was good wondering whether I should linger a while longer. He said there is life in your home that you need to attend to hear is – you need to go home. Well I conceded that the time to return home was right. I disagree with the idea that here there is there is only the passing of your physical body.

Your life will continue to be with us you works a lifetime to make sure that Andy great job on the production by Monty Montgomery in a beautiful piece of storytelling about Brent Timmons's uncle Bud and by the way, if you enjoyed this story. You can find Prince other stories as well. Of all of our stories on our American stories.com and we love to hear stories that are more eulogies than anything else in remembrances, and particularly in these most core relationships in our lives is father's mother's siblings's aunts and uncles and grandparents because this is where most learning occurs for much of the fundamental learning our lives occurs. If you have any of those story send again to our American stories.com. As you are the stars of the show to your listeners story about his uncle Bud's last days here on our American story. I know everything about running a coffee shop for small business insurance. I need my State Farm agent make sure my people, and competent business owners to help you best. State Farm is in your corner and on like a good neighbor, call your local State Farm agent for quote today doing household chores can Artie be time-consuming and tedious. There's nothing more daunting than facing piles and piles of laundry that need to be done can be overwhelming for anyone.

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They give their venom they get fed right after. So it's almost like a reward so they bite naturally into the vessel and release their bottom and from there it goes into a purification process and then it's turned into a freeze-dried powder and that's how the scientists around the world and the pharmaceutical companies use it in toxins opened in 2011 and its beginning years. It was very small on the snow in the community even knew was there in 2016 in toxins became a high production for felony and gain a lot more attention.

It's become an enormous success with the community treated with utmost level of respect by the city and by its residents. We have a very serious level of preparedness here with the fire department with the police department. The local hospitals know us are states poison control knows us because if you can imagine Wisconsin poison control getting a call that someone's been bitten by a black mamba or king cobra. The first thing to do is roll your eyes assume it's not anything like that so one day I was extracting from several black mamas and I rest a finger on their nose. So I had that animal in my hand pressing on its nose and I lifted the animal before I lifted my finger and I actually lacerated my finger with the snakes friend so any time that you believe you've been snake bit. You know, the first rule is get to the hospital as quickly as possible and of course we have the evening on hand but basically I waited to see because that animal had just released its bottom that I get any vitamin my system and my okay and I started to lose control of my tongue and my eyelids and eyes were drinking. I was salivating and so then we got to the hospital I received four vials of antivenom and went home that evening and had dinner with my family. That wasn't the first accident had with one of it's a little ironic and actually kind of funny despite the severity of it. But in 2015 I was extracting venom from a snake from Africa called the stiletto snake and we were doing these extractions to do a scientific paper that proved that there is no answer evening that can be used to treat that bite and I had my right hand placed in the wrong place at the wrong time and I actually accidentally pushed my finger on to explain and we had to take what's called the flight for life are emergency helicopter down to the huge hospital in the southern part of the state, and of course we knew there was nothing that could treat it so it was all pain management for 48 hours and I see but it still makes me laugh. The irony that we knew we couldn't be treated where we are with animation, we have a very strict thing that we actually another veteran producer used that we adopted, which is the safe pilots checklist so we go through that checklist, but before I walk in that room. I like to remind myself that we don't want it to happen again which it will eventually be another bite. It's just the nature of the business, but to prevent that to keep my family from having to go through with me. This hurts a lot of people's feelings. But snakes don't have a part of the brain that shows emotion or connection. Lizards do they become bonded to their keepers and things like that but snakes can't do that. It's all about. How tolerant is that animal be now there's a lot of YouTube stars right now. People that want to be like Steve Irwin and educate, but they'll take these deadly animals and they'll handle them in a very reckless way. Actually it's it's not a matter of if but when they're going to get bitten and it's going to be ugly. One of them on extremely close friends with and he has a young daughter and every time he would post a video doing something stupid with a dangerous animal.

I sent him a picture of his daughter because just because you have. It doesn't mean you're out of the woods.

There can be lots of secondary infection. You could be bitten by one of these snakes and it turns out you had a pre-existing condition. You never knew about and the next thing you know you're on dialysis or your dad. It's is not worth it, but the general public loves it because they believe they're seeing a bond between an animal in a person and that's not scientifically possible. When you asked what you do for a living and your painter is extracted from deadly animals. You get a variety of reactions. One is are you serious and why would you want to do that job. People are really interested in the back story allows visitors to come and see for themselves were not like any others I feel that in our educational center that that sparks a whole different level of interest and investment from the kids that are watching us from behind the glass and stuff. It's just pure because these kids are nose to nose with cobras was rattlesnakes what we want to see are more people working in conservation more people starting to find more legitimate medicinal uses. That's kind of our goal just in Africa alone. There's hundreds of thousands of bytes a year. A large number of antivenom for Africa is donated and I've been fortunate enough to see them save people's lives over there it's a humbly experience to be a part of and something that were were very proud of. It's what keeps us going every day. I think if six-year-old me knew that this was the path that I was going to end up on. I don't think I would've believed myself we just try to approach it with a great deal of humility and always remember, the goal is to save people's lives not to fill our egos or anything like it's just all about saving lives, and a great job on that piece by Madison and a special thanks to Nathaniel Frank, CEO of M toxins venom lab we were six years old.

He told us he was obsessed with reptiles knew then that his dream will be working with these animals. We learned also snakes don't like being grabbed and also snakes don't have a motion but I love the incentives that venom for food program and how we ultimately train these snakes basically do some good in the end that's what it's all about saving lives. If you live near state. Experience in a country antivenom is in every hospital and it literally saves lives the story of Nathaniel Frank, CEO of M toxins venom lab you on our American store