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January 22, 2020 7:00 am

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Questions include---1- Matt talks about a recent article he wrote regarding whether or not Protestant distinctivs are found in the early church.--2- Is baptism a sacrament---3- Can you explain how my free will relates to or plays into salvation---4- Would it be possible for Jesus to have sinned before the resurrection---5- What's the best way to witness to those in the black Hebrew Israelite groups---6- Matt talks about denominations and whether or not they damage Protestantism.

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Matt slick, why is the founder and president of the listed apologetics. We found online at the car and got more you have questions about Bible doctrine is a max Y brands is called in responding to your questions at 8776. Here is Matt slick. I ask that you give me a call. We have five open lines 877-207-2276 door wide open for those of you might be new to the show. We do here we answer, but on but we do more than this. Just after Bible question people call out and ask about the Bible. Left about various religious systems and are atheist with callable dialogue will talk at all costs, topics, and doing it for 15 years. Enjoy it and hope you do too.

So if you want to know you and I will recall, 877-207-2276 and think of the things I can talk about here because either something that's important that's been working on videos and you can go to harm org YouTube and released one actually stupid. I public of the public at the second one which I'll do it tonight or tomorrow to make sure it's okay. I've had to teach myself how to video, audio, lighting, video editing all kinds of stuff and do various so in all projects I'm working on, which is fine. It just takes all the time to pick it up and make efficient and so one of the things I did was an article on whether or not the Protestant distinctives are in the early church. The reason I talked talk about this is because as you probably will know what I do is so often I will go to various chat rooms and I do this in order to keep up-to-date on various things as well as try out new approaches and once I polished some things I'm going to that I release him to write articles oh because of the carbon we had over hundred million visitors to the site and so what were doing now and try to do is when doing article is converted to audio nobody to do with the audio scale with video video and then also putting up on the just the audio portions of the negative figure out a nickel at work really easily for people slick and just listen and watch and listen whatever this works.

Rate people are different and how they look and learn so I did this thing on the on Protestant distinctives. The reason I did that is because I get drug into a lot of conversations on the web and Facebook. In particular, my name will be brought up by somebody in some group will Matt slick says your message website and so I'll see it pop up and I'll go check it out and it happens frequently and were what I've noticed is that a lot of times the Catholics are rather obstreperous. They are are very difficult to deal with and so not all of them but some of them are just very rude and condemning happens a lot of people are like that.

A few selective muscle and so will all engage them in Alaska. Questions and do that and in universalism over that we can do some stuff with universalism and so one of the. The issues that came up in my discussions with the Catholics as their complaint that Protestantism is not found in the early church. What got me thinking, and we think the Catholics were raising at issue because because they do some research I found out some things might go over little bit of that word article, it's on the web are Protestant teachings found in the early church and the answers yes no basically test with distinctives and a distinctive, I've ate that I've listed since I thought I might go through some of them and or maybe all of them and discussed with you and give me a call and talk about these issues or anything else. All you do is dial 877-207-2276 if you want to watch the show. Not a big deal but you can screw go to Facebook harm org CAR MORG find it there so I think about it how many distinctives now both the Catholics and Protestants. For example, believe that Jesus is God in flesh and believe the doctrine of the Trinity.

So those are distinctives the distinctives are those things that are held in Protestant theology that are contrary to or in opposition to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. So here here's what the first one that I found there's one mediator between God and man. The man Christ Jesus.

Not many mediators know in Catholicism, the Roman Catholics have many mediators that'll say in one hand know there's only one true mediator that Christ would, in my opinion, what Catholicism does is a place footloose and fancy free with words it redefines things that reminds me of Mormonism in the sense in that it has a coherent system of word re-definitions that makes sense to some degree.

If you're inside that worldview thinking in those terms.

Like for example in Mormonism. If you ask mom if you believe in one God, the civil yes but Mormonism teaches many gods in existence, but you say what a student to complete this after you believe in one God is able, according to what they mean by that phrase. To believe in one God means of all the ones that exist, they only serve and worship one that's different than what we mean by you believe that there's more than one God in existence cc national definitions so we talk about leadership and Catholicism. We discover is that Jesus is the one mediator, but so was Mary. She's not the one mediator, but she's an intercessor is are the saints, and those able you can go to what a friend you can ask the friend to pray for you were just doing the same thing as asking Mary to pray for us asking the same supreme force. In this case is no different than yes it is different. For one, their dead sure not.

And if I ask a friend to pray for me to write in front of me.

Could you pray for me tonight is lithium journal problem.

That's not a problem that's actually recommended to do in Scripture, but it's not recommended and is never stated that we ask that person's guide to pray for us to intercede for so the only one course.

Christ is God blessed distinctive we have a Catholicism. Here's another one. Justification by faith alone, not by faith and works, or baptism in Roman Catholicism you. For example, paragraph 2060, the Catholic catechism you obtain salvation by faith, baptism and the observance of the commandments, but in Romans 328 it says for we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law. Romans 45 set but what does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly's faith is credited as righteousness and as many verses like this know what Mormonism does what Jehovah's Witnesses do what Catholicism. This is to add work to salvation and those are no we don't do that yes you do, they add works to salvation.

You have to be able to perform good works to prove that your worldly but yet the same time you're not.

You're not earning your salvation and selected capital do state is my condign merit, not strict merit condign merit. The nurse could condign incongruence of condign merit is so for example the idea if you get baptized in God washes away your sins in baptism so that the baptism is what saves you and the group that if you hold to that that the actual act of baptism saves you, but the site is not the water upon you.

But the faithful act, and God has bound himself to honor that in baptism, and so therefore he will save you sort of condign merit think it merit salvation but not in and of itself and said what is doing is it's alleviates it's helping yourself to that which God has already said he would do and if he doesn't do it. He said he would do the nest not right. This condign merit is so they do they have these words of the eight use will say things like this is very problematic not going to also one of the Protestant distinctives is eternal security.

Now I understand that not all Protestants hold to eternal security and but is that the Protestant distinctive, it's within the Protestant movement that we don't lose our salvation and as many verses that talk about that. John 637 through 40. John 1027 to 28. Jesus is so is eternal equanimity will never perish not go through a lot of verses on this.

I know that a lot of, but as a stockholder that unfortunately I think it's a big mistake on their part but nevertheless it is a part of the distinctive to say that were secure in Christ's work, not in our own or not in a combination of our faith in a ceremony like baptism or circumcision or sacramental this or that. So we hold to the idea that faith alone is what justifies us now is not that faith is just an intellectual faith a false faith. I James 219 speaks of you believe in God, the devil believes also the troubles know is not were talking about a true living faith, but it's that faith that you living faith alone that justifies us in the Catholics a course would say not even be good and do good works and stuff like that.

Of course, is a false gospel and for that reason alone Roman Catholic Church which teaches that in many places you have to do good works, and contribute to your salvation.

In that sense even though the saints condign merit to in the sacred sacrament means that grace is re-infused into you when you get to be have more grace and fusing your soul, and by that make me more righteous. This is of paganism. It is false doctrine as a false gospel and render curse for that. Galatians 189 says if we are an angel from ship from heaven, should preach the gospel contract will be of particular be cursed.

And so the Roman Catholic Church is accursed when I say this people might say are you kidding me what kind of guy would say that a guy who believes the Bible about a guy who studies the word of God guy who just believe the word of God says over any tradition any counsel. I'm not loyal to any denominational group on the will to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

So I'm nondenominational, that's okay, you know, I just thought it was the word of God say, well, it clearly tells us that were not justified by any works in any way shape or form and therefore were secure in Christ. But if you have to earn your salvation. You can never be totally secure because it depends on your effort, your sincerity, your good works. So I ask people frequently, those who hold to the idea that you can lose your salvation. Doing enough to keep you being good enough to keep yourself right with God. I had people say yes.

The arrogance, but these are just three out of the eight and we got a call waiting, so let's get to the caller. But the forward lines give me a call 877-207-2276 disc at the Martin from Louisiana.

Martin, you're on the argument we got you dark all right by God's grace we all meet Savior actually you are ready to install one course about what about baptism being I give sacrament or God working in water baptism we are giving thin.

I know I looked straight and church groups hold till it out how it looked. How is it a meritorious work graphic. He was talking about at this time, so there different views on sacramental ideas somewhat visible with the sacrament.

One view of the sacraments is that it's a visible manifestation of these is manifested as the main one on a photobook call mats like why call 770776 charismatic right back or type it out here.

It's Martin's effort that you blush.

You can beckon Miller.

All right, so very yes somebody shall baptism right or of the sacraments and things I will not course turn around very quickly.

I hear certain people say well back to auto saving, say, and so the box straight you trust and work of Christ and the command to be baptized here. Certain people that are against that was they would deftly work salvation and I hear people in France for that with a will only saved by Christ's finished work in Raleigh doing what the Bible that God is going to get your take on it for about the church seems to be divided on that with Christian church isn't the false religious systems are outside and teach a false gospel in that baptism is a necessary means by which sins are forgiven. Baptism is not something that saves us from our sins. Another negative verses like first Peter 321 and disable baptism now saves you are quoting it up with a don't do is: will thing and ignore the context corresponding to that, baptism now saves you, not the removal of dirt, the flesh, but appealed with a clean conscience toward God.

Okay, so it's not the removal grip. The flesh is not an issue of the water but is has corresponding to that, baptism now saves you corresponding to what you read for the verse before I when the patience of God kept waiting the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. The ark is what brought them safely through the water.

The water was immediate destruction was used to kill to execute so that saves you course point of that what saved Noah was the ark, so I hold the position of the baptism there is in reference to the faithful act of getting into the ark, which is one door which God close Jesus is the door.

Baptism is a representation of our union with Christ, known explain something here. This is a lot of people miss this and with all often do is go to Robin 63 and four. They don't read the whole thing. Context is everything or do you not know that all of us who been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death. Therefore, we have been buried with him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead to the glory of the father, so we too might walk in newness of life, the sissy. It's an baptism that you obtain a good doctor sensitives or baptism that you have a death notice not because in the same chapter 2 verses later.

Knowing this our old self was crucified with him in and that was verse six verse eight we died with Christ when we die with Christ.

When we were crucified with Christ. Now we get baptized but when Christ was crucified. This gets into a document called federal headship of Christ represented his people that would explain that right now too much. So when you look at this is her getting the idea, what baptism is, is a representation of something is a covenant sign and its equal antiquated but is related to circumcision by Paul in Colossians 211, 12, even circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, having been buried with him in baptism will circumcision was a covenant sign, baptism think covenant sign and so when Paul said in Galatians 5 you who receive circumcision you been severed from Christ.

Notice the pun severed you who were seeking to be justified by the law what they were doing was saying look, it's just a ceremony. God commanded that we do that and so it's the work of God that we do this and so we do this, and process your your outside the capital. For Christ are outside lost because what they're doing is doing a ceremony in order to be saved.

Baptism as a ceremony that with her to say is what baptism not a ceremony will yes it is a ceremony it's a religious right that one person does with another in a religious context. That's a ceremony and thus it was God work in us will and why do you have to do it if you don't do it. What Gloria I know I know the Lord (like old holy sacrament of baptism.

So I went to lose her college so I don't talk audit know that ALL I do know that with the Lutheran College and a Presbyterian seminary I get a nondenominational yes went Westminster San Diego so what they hold to is the idea that it's a sacraments kind of a thing in that in the participant participation of an consultant teaches us to that grace is is is you obtain grace. Let's say, but this is problematic because if I were to come over your house and I were to do a certain something to give me five bucks I obtained five dollars. I've obtained a thing.

So if you obtain grace for grace is given to your grade becomes more willing Catholicism.

It's a grace is a substance that can be infused into the more grace you have infused into you by the sacraments that you perform than the more righteous you are. Will the Cath Lab in the Roman as skimming the Lutherans they are close to that.

But not that radical and anonymous inner critic on the sake they're not heretical at the Roman Catholic churches. They don't teach that I was never really really able to understand exactly what it is, but they associate with. Baptism is a sacrament. Grace is then upon you even more in it in a stronger way then we got asked are you saying condign or congruent merits in this sense of the condign me Marek manner or congruence were the obligation of God is not there were condign.

It is there and to save and move.

It gets more complicated so you'd understand something the Bible says were justified by faith. Romans 51, justified by faith without the works of the law. Romans 328 rooms for five cents to the one who does not work but believes in the one who justifies the ungodly's faith is credited as righteousness. I asked people when are you justified by faith we have faith when you get baptized is a trick question. Okay because if they say will survive by faith we get baptized and are not justified by faith.

Are you because faith is not only not.

I know some would say well the fate that they think that all buried in the paper has to correct that an example that's correct, but is not the obedience that saved him. It's the faith that saved him that faith is true faith that resulted obedience.

But that faith is what's not the obedience.

Alright, alright, and the characters that are not what they would say that if the statement faith that trust in the gospel that led them to paragraph five below God's grace watch the word that Hennessey Holland echoed her not to go to acts 2216 will arise, be baptized, wash away your sins, calling upon the name of the Lord with the Louisville court.

The first part of verse arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins. See because the washing of the water and they don't read the whole thing, calling upon the name of the Lord you call upon the name of the Lord.

That's how were justified. All who call upon the name the Lord will be saved if the active faith in this. So if you go to acts 1630 and 31, for example, you know, Paul's preaching and they'd ask specifically what we do. To be safe and he says believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

You will be saved you and your whole household. He didn't say it that you see they're not giving you the whole story.

Adding a ceremony to salvation.

Okay, they voted right back after these messages if the open line call mats like why call 770-7276 pairs mats like the show, just like the announcer said to call you in lines 877-207-2276 look at the check from North Carolina, Chuck welcome your on the iMac book that one year debate with a great mark. What are and I will.

I want to say I I believe in the ability of Christ and the resurrection that worked on your you go. I mean, I look back okay and it also well and the ministries that don't believe in that but all I. It's your idea about that but also second thought. My question is how many about my free will. When I got they and how your response.I've got you on the phone.

I turned off the radio, but I'm not about that on the status of thanks Matt sure dependability of Christ. If anyone denies that there heretic. Dependability means the same aimlessness and Sophist somebody clean up your Christian says Christ to send the can't be a true Christian flat out and you need to just deal with that with them and first Peter 222 says he kept the law so there's that he could not be a sufficient sacrifice. If he did send that go to that more but not for us free will with no he might not like it and I cannot write a note or not. I don't know what my claim. There's a doctrine called to communicate with you in your motto and it's a fancy Latin phrase, but it means the communication of the properties. Let me explain something Jesus has two natures presently he has two natures is both divine and human is God and man.

So when he was walking on the earth, we would see him if we were there we would see him walk. We would see him sweat would see him get tired and sleep would see him eat. Those are human attributes. We also see things like he forgives your sins and sing it with you always, even to the end of the earth.

Things like this. Those are divine aspects so the person of Christ had two distinct natures. And because he is two natures he has attributes that are consistent and dependent upon each nature or divine attributes enters human attributes we could see them both divine attributes are manifested through the human attributes we would see the divine attributes of him walking on water, commanding someone to rise from the dead, commanding a storm to be still, and it obeys so he could see the manifestation of divine attributes as well as a human attributes.

This is because what we would have is the doctrine called the commune a copy of your deal, Martin the communication of the properties and what that means is that the attributes of both natures divine and human are ascribed to the single person, Jesus is one person I am hungry. I will be with you always.

I am thirsty. I forgive your sins. So the same one who says I the one person claimed human attributes as well as divine attributes because it's divine to their both shared by the one person that here's the question can God. Sin enters no matter, so he has the attributes of the divine quality ascribed to his person. So he has that the inevitability quality applied to him in his nature and his essence as personhood, dependability, he cannot sin write that down so he will come back though.

Say wait a minute. If that's the case, then how could he be tempted while you go to Psalm 10 614 and what is talking about their Psalm 10 614 is talking about Israel was rebellious against God talk with a red CD and things like that. Verse 13. They quickly forgot his works.

They did not wait for his counsel, but craved intensely in the wilderness and tempted God in the world in the desert ointment tempted him will. God can't be tempted in one sense, but he could be tempted in another SOI use illustration of like I'm I'm strange.

I have no interest in sports watching any sports at all. I just tell my friends don't ever ask me to a game. I'm just not interested in being nice.

If I have a dinner planned my wife and some of his hey I have got tickets to something sporting event. Their tempting me, but I'm not tempted to see by offering but I'm not but internally water off a ducks back doesn't affect me so so that's how he could be tempted but is not tempted because it externally without internally so the impact ability of Christ deals with his inability to sin because of the committee, to a Dumont the communication of the properties the property of his impact ability, the divine sense is ascribed to the single person of Christ, the person can't sin, we could be tempted. There's your answer by I thought right and about will get there at about three will what what tell me what free will that I have when I got they I'm not buying that you have another without honoring Barnard-these are two different alert doctors to Cato at the two main views of free will compatible is him and libertarianism.

So libertarianism know I will do compatible is in first compatible is him is the idea that human freedom of choice is compatible with God's sovereign Providence predestination election determined he different what will happen and things like that. Libertarianism says no that's not true.

We have to be free independently of God in certain areas in order to be truly free that libertarianism and compatible is and is a difficult position, even though many libertarians will say no, their position is a difficult one and salute compatible as a business. The idea that that we are free, and we do have free will and the sense that we can make choices that are freely consistent with our nature and are not coerced. Now the question is, can God work and bring us to where he wants using our free will, of course, he can't please God. He's got a map of personal illustration I can say I had was talking an atheist about this to understand the issues he thought he did. He thought he did really well he didn't get even though nothing that we didn't put any rate debate ahead. And so he would say various things that had looked if I were to sit before you.

And I said is a hat on what's on top of your hat. He takes the hat off. I think I cause you to take the hat off but then I violate your free will that I can still get you to do what I want you to do freely can't I said yes yeah it is into this inconsistency was if Jesus were to say to correct it with another head that is no longer his free will is ridiculous is his reasoning with this applet ridiculous. It was scholar fiction, so God can certainly with that you know very basic God and completely figure out the miraculous that you know where Fleming right and were still free. God works with Alice and through our freedom. The libertarianism variable to send the return is and says is not our free will is not compatible with God's sovereign decrease in election. Wait a minute, then how can God have sovereign decrease in election over us. If they can deny this.

The to me it is just as ridiculous and think about this on the Regis versus her okay and would you say that Jesus had free will yeah you got the letter.

Therefore Jesus answered and said them.

Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son of Man of man is the son can do nothing of himself unless it is something he sees the father doing whatever the father does this things the sundials also like medic John 519 is John 530 Jesus as I can do nothing of my own initiative as I hear, I judge, my judgment is just because I do not seek my own will.

Will send me wait a minute, Jesus could do nothing of his own initiative, but he had free will. He came to do with the father sent him to do so. He can only do the father said that's his predestination and design forgot, for Christ's work and will, yet Christ had free will that's compatible is him right there. The argument is overt and we have libertarianism know that I'm a teacher one more thing. Okay, consider breaking the acidity of God is his quality and nature of essence being independent of all things.

He's noncontingent. We are contingent depend on God for existence. God doesn't of been anything in his freedom of choice is not contingent on anything we do not contingent on any future knowledge that he's good looking, and that he sees what will you do with any truck access or whatever. That's non-acidity related to the issue was independence and not contingency of his free will, so what you call it when you give an attribute to belongs to God alone given to created thing is idolatry belongs to God alone libertarians a free will is there okay I have a nice day Deborah, all right, okay, what they voted right back up his messages mass Y call 770-7276 Matt slick last segment of the power of the show and if you want you recall, we have four open lines folks 877207 recall Ryan from Denver to show you're on here it's normally we gonna write yet regarding the black Hebrew Israelite group, I would you that. Would you go about with or and/or effectively defending the argument that the truth give you know what their doctrine is what you do is you need dialogue with them. You ask him to show you something in Scripture, but don't let them steamroll you. So what they'll do is you ask the question and is he will explain in Scripture show me a verse without they'll often just like I bombard you and keep talking and Dominic… No, please don't do that.

I want to look at what you say in context. That's what you do and as you read things in context. You find out that the great majority what they're saying is not the case. That's what you do.

So if you are armed with this kind of a thing, then what happens is in any situation. We talked with the black Hebrew Israelite, you can disable commission within the word of God and whether the often do is go to a place of Scripture and are gonna start saying what this is a true name of God or a white people are the Europeans for the time of the Gentiles or Jesus true name is Joshua Benioff I things like that and you say show me that in Scripture just be calm and show me that in the word of God and you'll find that in some instances, their action can have a correct understanding of something in Scripture that happens with cults and things like that in the significant areas that are important. If identity don't any way to discover that is my reading context. That's what you do that notice to the early put much authority with the Bible alone books are so tight that you cannot quickly like that. 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