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Okay I said I got a question for you is right and he just be said. When Adam and Eve had only Cain and Abel were to get there, you can enable their wives said well they they had relations with each other produce offspring and he bought was answering him. He interrupted not to take him on the finished answer because it goes on that let you control the conversation is really belligerent nice a guy look at me talk about it is for long time.

If you can be rude and is now the finish and give you an answer is unlikely control of the goodbye click so what is up with people you know you call up yes it quickly. Okay, this is why there's this verse like it and he interrupts and WT you okay I finished please don't let me finish that you control the cover. So anyway that that was that. So I phone without it didn't last very long out a minute or two, and the guy hung up store.

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So I do a lot of talking with you blog Christian number one problem I'm running into a women pastor and the thing though with the evidence of speaking in tongues or whatever and and I run into the issue like an act 19 right after Mark Bill I we have all laid hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them and they began speaking with tongues and profit line.

So how do why this beginning on things never happened to me to be some type of gift in the Scriptures, but the way I'm being at a charismatic person without interpreter how do I respond to something like that. Ask him you doing this typically just ask him what are the biblical instructions for how you to participate in the charismatic gifts asking sure that that the way I go about it and typically no parameters or will, then we need to do is go to first contents 14 and you need to reference for fricatives 14 and un-gifted men come in. Then they will think you're crazy and so this is verse 23 first contents 14 when it says here is, therefore, if the whole church assembles to govern all speak with tongues and ungifted men are unbelievers under will they not say that you're mad you crazy.

I think so, but you're doing this on biblically you could be causing people to stumble. Is that what God wants you to do that now. First, it is 1423 now there's a carriage media that goes on and if you know but I believe in all of the charismatic gifts for today.

I'm not a sensationalist and I will defend that and I'm glad he debated. What's okay I don't I don't believe in the carriage media goes on in this idiocy that that's their God can still do things, but you have ever once went to a church in the reformed and this is out in Texas and they were all singing in tongues and I said that the pastor said afterwards as it why we all singing in tongues as the Bible says you not to speak in tongues a lot, but three or four and we were speaking or singing in tongues.

I looked at him.

I said okay. So when an unbeliever comes in and on one day you're speaking in tongues is good. I think you're crazy the next day or singing in tongues. He's good. I think it's okay. You have your point. So Jeff is out of order so we want to always point in the Scripture and I and it's interesting that you brought these two things together women pastors in the charismatic gifts because both are based on experience, not Scripture also will be the problem I have in the Scripture that obviously is about the gift but the church is like and what you like to be out with a really good book like the dispensational Calvinists kind of church and so I'm always kind of stuck and ember told him trying to find a good place for you and the reformed churches right match or generally liturgical and the ones that aren't have children inside the congregation that are out of control and I can't enjoy anything so I can't attend and if you do find a church where things are in order. Then they sing these ancient a funeral verges called hymns and so I get depressed. I suspect that the selling funeral do just to me. You know the one syllable per note goes on and not like man and you can't raise your hands in the church to get in trouble. He stared at the kind of whining look.

You know what my favorite memory of drugs Bramley. My favorite memory church. One of my favorite was so was in seminary I do guy was black eye African-American is and he had this church tunes in San Diego to go and so I walked in there and then was greeted and hugged and loved on five but it was just awesome and they were full of joy of the Lord felt so good and up is too far for me to go all the time and the pastor came and invoiced that it was hard of plotting is not good can be applied for the past you know just the man I got the method to my buddy ago what they plotting him for many just a guy like us to no no no you don't understand. They're not applauding because of of you did bring the guys up there no there applauding for the man who's bringing the word of God, and it went oh so I started clapping because I know that that that would be great to have that with reformed theology really doing really good and yet they thought you and very difficult because you can't really become a member at one of the curtains, unless you give hearty approval to that doctrine.

And if you're I'm not completely convinced the strange fire thing kind of really threw me off. Well, as far as a charismatic gift right now if you wanted for water continue and that would it's is very simple and in so the little fridge.

For example, if you go you will do this for the quickly first Corinthians chapter 1 it says to the church is verse two at the church of God was at Corinth, to those who been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling with all who in every place call upon the name of the Lord Jesus. That's a universal declaration, not just for the Corinthian church right there. The church at Corinth, to those call in every place universal universe.

Seven so that you are not lacking in any gift in the word for gift is Clarice Mike D from charisma awaiting accurately the revelation or the apocalypses of Jesus Christ. So it says you're not like any gift letter waiting for the return of Christ. Some say when that means the Bibles could complete it know it doesn't, it's the return of Christ.

Now we have no fault of this quickly deployed breaker. It says in first Corinthians 13 eight that will have time to finish it. Some of go to the break and I'll continue afterwards. His love never fails with the gifts of prophecy will be done away with her tongues will cease his knowledge to be done away that we can effectively start again with this. I'll explain what's going on take you someplace else and I know, but he hold on right back after these messages like defend the continuation of all the charismatic gifts even let my performed brother staring at me, shaking her head and tapping her foot right back Matt slick. Why call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show.

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17. You're not to lack any charismatic gift letter waiting for the apocalypse. The return of Jesus. That's what it says frequent is 17 we go to first Christians 13 it says tongues will cease knowledge will done away with verse nine for we know and partly prophesy in part. But when the perfect comes, the partially done away question is what is the perfect most of the station essay. The perfect is the Bible wears that after it just doesn't fit and the partially done away and so I think it me with a perfect comes with the return of Christ to the completion because this the word to from Tele tell yes which means completion okay telling us finished that which is reached its end term limit that's what's going on so the return of Christ makes sense and goes on. Is it when I was a child I used to speak with the child as like a child think like a child, reason, like a child when I became a man I did with away with childish things. Now this is important for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face-to-face then refers back to when the perfect comes as an antecedent of then is the perfect comes, so when the perfect comes, will see face-to-face well I did a search on face-to-face and every time it occurs it means an encounter one person with another person or more major, so if the Bible is completed. We see God face-to-face.

Nope, don't write does not work okay and we do this right here face, and have more social face-to-face I have this article in Britain and the so when God uses in reference to himself and means of visual personal counter Genesis 3230 Exodus 3311 number 12 a Deuteronomy 54 Jeremiah 3204. Likewise, the New Testament, there is also due to speaking of personal encounters including Stan wanted to verse one, second John 12 three and John 14 just means personal encounter. Okay so that's .1 now it says we see face-to-face. I know in part and I shall know fully just as I have been fully known. That's a little mortal impact on get to the point quickly. God doesn't know unbelievers know he's omniscient. He knows everything, but when he says I don't know you mean you're not saved. So when Jesus said in Matthew 723 I never knew you could away from me. That's actually means in Galatians 48 when you did not know God you serve by nature, those which are not gods but now that you've come to know God or rather are known by him. Now you come to serve a true living God. So the idea of having been fully known means it's a saving relationship with saving something in a relationship set is that what happens in the Bibles completed no but it is when Christ returns.

So it makes more sense to say that.

Furthermore furthermore go to fricatives. 14. One. Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts that that's the Greek word Newmont to cuss about Newmont's word spirit. So how do you Holy Spirit the Newmont to cost the spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy okay if sensationalism is true. Take that verse and cross out yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially may prophesy cross without stuffer today. You can leave pursue love in their and then the next verse.

For one who speaks in a tongue cross that out stuffer today. No one in aliens and no one prophesies right clock, cross out, cross it out. One who speaks the tongue etc. goes on and on and so really the oh yes it does so sensationalism will ask secessionists I say do you know of any present-day teaching in the church that invalidates large portions of Scripture allow you sensationalism for fiddle like that though, no they don't like it first contains 12 verse eight.

This is, I have this I but actual illustration to get women to other websites back up. I put this up to one there's been little crossed out in my illustration to wonders given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of not or word of knowledge by means of the same spiritual letter faced by the same spirit of the gifts of healing by the same spirit and other miraculous powers of their prophecy, to another distinguishing between spiritual, better speaking a different kind at times crossed out, crossed out, crossed out not rely right and infrequent first contains 14 I have a part of verse one through all of verse six crossed out versus 13, 14, 15, crossed out also. 20 through 25 crossed out and then portions of the most evidence 27 through 32 crossed out 37 crossed out 39 crossed because you don't little say is what you know these are there lessons from them that are up as applicable today. Really. So when someone comes in and speaks in tongues, as applicable, Dick will know it's not more than what he talking about.

Furthermore, saved the look least valuable for the last, the least valuable reason that very least, not that I make doctrine out of experience, but I remember very clearly once, just once, it happened in detail. I took a girl hung from a Bible study to her house and on the way she needed a book and I stop at my apartment. I said, here's there's that book she's standing there and it was Tony and she said in two weeks she was going to go to Australia for a mission, and out of nowhere I just said to her. I still remember very clearly you're not going to stay here in five months you get to meet a guy. He's good become your spiritual mentor in 18 months.

You can have a spiritual bond and you can do ministry together and then all of a sudden this assurance I had of saying it disappeared like what was that remember all assurance and the knowledge two weeks later she got on a plane and went to Australia. I thought okay prophesy falls. The next day she was back. She got off the plane and Australia knew she wasn't supposed to be there. She came back on the same plane stayed in five months later, she met a guy in 18 months later they got married and went to England admission work together now in Audrey's essay I use that sometimes because is not a hearsay.

I heard someone so say since it and that you know people who lets his hearsay limit so you would.

I did not that it drawing attention to myself. I'm not claiming anything missing. This is what happened. We do with it. I've had people tell me it never happened but it did know didn't tell me that it out because are so indoctrinated into a particular view that something like that is not allowed.

I'm a man of integrity. It happened before she left England. She said Matt everything you prophesied it came to pass, while so remember I'm not offering that is proof. The proof is in Scripture and that we need to stick with this sort of got okay thinking that I really put our buddy God bless man McCauley… All right, hey you foreman lines what you call 877-207-2276 that would try to get English lit the sky from Utah after the mass Y call 77077 charismatic slave back to the show. We lost our waiting callers. We have five open lines going to McCall eight 772-072-2760 McCall and judge fully another. We stay on the air by your support and what we ask is very much we ask that, would you please consider supporting us at five dollars a month, five dollars monthly. Go to Carn.org/donate CRM.O RG/donate and you cannot you can help us out because we support missionaries in Turkey in Malawi and Nigeria in Brazil in Columbia and don't have a guy and so exciting and so ill we were reaching out. We got to lessons you Spanish elliptical website Spanish equivalent websites and Portuguese equivalent websites doing apologetics in teaching it all kinda stop work missionaries to the Internet. If you want to support us all you had to do was go to Carn.org C a RM.O are the/donate and yes five dollars a month is easy to set up and easy to out the change in cancer all the stuff I should let you know that we've had over hundred 50 million visitors. I keep records I do it on the daily basis I going to Google analytics and I agree a code to do this for years and years and years and so we've had over 229,003,000 page views check this out hundred 50 million visitors and 80.8 million returning visitors having different computers because it is judged by an IP address in the protocol address per computer and so we've had over 80 million people from all over the world come in and return any stay in they look.

That's a lot of people and so if you want to be in support of that kind of an effort to please consider supporting estate to her for five dollars a month and scorecard federal/donate all right for the lines going to give me a call 8772072276D from Kansas City. Welcome earlier a man. I believe that that what you is been settled in the wake arm explains it. But I've been on several reform sites and they take me over the coals about good confessions, all having the rabbit and it my argument was that the early Gentile support into the church. There would've been a big ruckus about the fact that the Jews if they kept this a Sabbath, which they did and and they had to let their employees an employee, you know, everybody, and that the new Gentiles pouring into the church would've asked for another day off if the Sabbath got changed. It Lord's day, and I know they're not to give you today, you don't have a two day weekend and so the would've been a big ruckus that should have been addressed in the Bible. My long consent must not really confusing.

Not sure what you're getting with what your question my question about the Sabbath being changed from Saturday to Sunday but my argument was, I guess earlier you give what the strike this way just to let a question and then let's tackle from there. Okay. Will rebuke all right get Gentiles coming in the new chart okay at. If the Sabbath would be to the Lord's day with a stab at the red. That meant they were commanded to rest on that seventh day right Gentiles. No well okay well I mean that's what they're saying because the Sabbath got Jane so using the reform people are saying you have to rest on Sunday the exactly right. Okay.

And so you know on the forms in which were from seminary meet to okay so I'm not seeing the issue yet.

This is a lot of people saddled to the idea of of Sunday being the Sabbath and that they in the reform camp. They very much will just take it easy and rest that day and and do all things like that. That's your privilege so not sure the problem is not a problem if they want to mandate that your your duty to be under the Old Testament medical laws but not carrying stakes not lighting fires already okay that when they do that, you ask him. Can you show me the Sabbath requirements that are continued in the New Testament. Please show me and I got in trouble for. I got helper asking the question on the reform page. Did you drive to church if you did, you little fire you violate the Sabbath on Sunday.

Okay so come just ask him now.

Can you show me that in Scripture to say I'm I'm willing to be corrected out of the word of God please show me in the word of God and you're putting it on them to show you that ask him to show me. You know, and you just don't.

I just don't do multiple things do one thing at a time and just privately request what okay what verses are there you go look at those verses.

Now we just tell you going on reform okay but I'll tell you a lot of reform people have God in the doctrinal box. Nick don't want to look about. They got things figured out. So sometimes you know you're doing with the Leica and so when I talk to reform people about this hydrant in my opinion legalistic about this all sick, so I'm obligated to keep the Sabbath to correct what extent show me the Scriptures are required to go to the Old Testament, take him to Hebrews 13, he was 952 16 with the old covenant is ratified or is abrogated with the arrival of the new or the death of Christ with the new covenant so so now you have to show me then covenant where this is applicable and okay that's it. If you can't do that you don't have a right to make any statements like you to show me Scripture and they die might know in my other problem was it in God change the Sabbath from the six-day Jewish Sabbath of the seventh day the third day of the resurrection.

He didn't change it to a solar calendar starting at 12 o'clock today with stay with okay to get a solar calendar.

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I gotcha I got you. Just trust me.

Just don't get down there okay. Rose 14.

Romans 14 says that he to let each member you convince his own mind about what data worship on and I would ask you first 2014. If for supposed to keep the Sabbath on Sunday. Why does Paul say every day is a like to some people.

Can you please analyze that and with those sometimes do as it was, it is linked with the Sabbath. The phrases every day is one particular day included in everyday, yes, you'll find that there often legalistic than what all do the six what if I decide not to keep that Sabbath would you think I should this be on the Christian are not a Christian now and ask rights in my friend.

It was Jewish.

We were in Queen and Nancy had a building where elevator stopped at every floor on the Sabbath. You didn't need to be pushing the button… Legalism and ridiculous me that gave you a week doing a Christian, they cook to the tree I saw yeah will drive eternal light on their there are causing an arc of flame chair (their argument was yet when their argument was it Jesus relax the Sabbath rules because it got at the great and got mad that relax.

That would they work. That was all along I say with is that you know that the book of sentiment lacks articles know they can go back to the confessions of faith. The Westminster that 1689 Baptist and I like to do and meets all legalistic Calvinists is so I say, you know, I think the confessions are great but I submit them to Scripture you want is like that.

I yeah I made that argument. Even the Westminster says even that the confessions and the Westminster divide were subject to Scripture when you say that all this almost divine own. I was really fun. I love talking to Piper reform people like that.

I got you know, by the way, I believe the charismatic gifts all you can hear the gears grinding and stuff it in the fan. Okay and I'm sorry but sometimes I just enjoy saying something to listen to the rockets that comes out of it is safe showing up as a maybe my Bible understanding it wrong, but I agree with you 99.9% of the time was I doing very well, you know, I just like I said I love talking reform people very, very reform sealed tight. When I want to seminary I didn't for thermal I'd listen to heavy my now I Christian metal going to seminary and I wore my spiked hair. You set the mold to stay because I break… I okay but they folks for open lines 877-207-2277] Matt like why call 77077 charismatic slave seven from Virginia your on-air will okay check to way that employs around 49 Luke Clavier out and guard and you read on and haven't gone back after a day and looking fine for three there.I looked at her hair and wearing and he why do you mean you not know about my father that were placed on a complicated why am I a ball.

It would be a nonprofit. I went with me and I'm looking at the King James word business is not there in the Greek okay cow West Wine bar.

The recent literally just says in my father's possessive and that's it just all it says literally in the Greek this is what you're looking for me. Did you not know that I had to be in my father's that's it okay move. Yes, it is the word 13#didn't know. She's why I will.

I'm thankful that you did.

This is why say to people that unless you're knowledgeable about Greek and have interlinear's and stuff like that. Don't use the King James it has some of these kinds of problems that can cause confusion and that's in the Kindred is bad sick. If you really want to get a better understanding of things use. I like the NASB, or even the ESP if that was the ESV say because it's in italics is the implication is there and in in the NASB has a wood house in italics and that's how it should be done about my father's house are my father's affairs and so in the NR and IRV. The workhouse is not in italics but in NASB it is in the italics meaning it's not in the Greek it's implied that was going on. So the ESV house but not in italics either and I think that they should keep it in italics because that's how that's what should be the NIV says house. The NIV 80 forces so well on very before you go. Let me explain something about what was going on there because a lot of people don't know this is are looking for him. Couldn't find it for several days when why is it that his mom and dad didn't know where he was first three days as irresponsible. Three days you know your kid is, what kind of parents are you will will turn right on to explain all about that could explain what was going on and why this makes sense in the culture.

The families rarely traveled alone sometimes, but often when they would go to Jerusalem group of people in the family and extended family would make a journey to Jerusalem sacred place the sacred temple. Everything was there so was very common and extended family for children to spend an entire day with another family member. It was not uncommon at all because they took care of each other. They might be in a caravan. They could be for five camels, depot, or walking back you know hundreds and under the feet it doesn't matter that was the culture.

After while. Okay let us check my we haven't seen for a while which is normal and then when they started looking then they had some issues and then they try to find him and what's interesting is Jesus as didn't you know I would be that implication means that they should have known about him all ready and understood a lot of who he was. A notice what he says my father's house at 12 years old. He knew he knew who he was in relationship to the father because you should have known he signed it to the parishes.

You should've known it be here. My father's house because even there at that young age he's teaching, it's his nature because he is the truth and 12 years old is a significant number, bar mitzvah, audits of age of maturity of manhood in Judaism and it wasn't until he was 30, that he began his ministry had to remain under the law for that period of time in subjection to his mother and father, and this is really important because it says in verse 51 and he went down with them and given Nazareth and he continued to subjection to them. Some groups say will Jesus during between 12 and 30 years old, went to India and studied the feet of the Hindu masters or Buddhist minute here or there and said no Mrs. he remained subjection to his parents a lot here in his prick at the gifts of Scripture logical to start with current now all I always got that it's a deep book.

In fact, I was talking to a friend of mine today and Rappaport and we were discussing a genealogical issue in Matthew and how to swim at the time wasn't quite right and so should hate will try this to.

I don't know the answer to try this try that.

Try this limited you find and just another example of figure we look we learn that the word of God is still deep. The matter how deep we go it's deeper still, there's always things to be founded to be understood and when we have problems. That's a good sign.

Not that the word of God has a problem means to discover something for you to continue to look and so that's it, no notice is also and he went down with them and came to Nazareth and he continued to subjection to them, and his mother treasured all these things in her heart. Now some people would say Joseph isn't mentioned maybe by then he had died just commentary privacy right and it is most probably, they say, because of the older men would marry younger women because the fathers who would make arrangements wanted to make sure their daughters were taken care of.

And so it is not uncommon for be a 20 or 30 year age gap between a couple.

That was not uncommon, it wasn't considered yucky or anything and they would do that and so that something Joseph was older quite capable good man and he and the passing away and she continued on and and that's just one of the where the theories that is there and it's hinted at slightly right that doesn't mean he wasn't alive just as and she can mother treasured all this mean he wasn't around.

But there's a salute.

This little mention of him are not there on R&R (American pre-like and keep our yell.

Oh yeah because he is who we would be and what he would do you will be the tangent here. Notice he was circumcised on the eighth day. Did you know that you know that in the mail that it's after the on the eighth day and after that there's a certain coagulant in blood that manifests so the eighth day circumcision. The shedding of blood is more more medically feasible. Furthermore, how many people were in Noah's Ark eight. That's right now. Also that people don't know this, but in Greek and Hebrew, but in Greek. The letters are also numbers. We have two sets we have numbers and letters but in Greek just once, one set for both. So whenever you write a word you're writing a bunch of numbers also turns out the work for you, Jesus. Jesus is 888 is interesting circumcised on the eighth day and what day of the week was Jesus raised on Sunday which is the first day of the week right well 7+1.

The first symbols when it is a bit of a stretch, but it make sense to anything they worship on the eighth day now the resurrection day Jesus was circumcised on the eighth day eight people knew was in Noah's Ark eight is considered a number of new beginnings.

Because this is one a child is entered in the covenant it would.

Noah entered and and something new happened and so all the stuff is interrelated and I get into some details like that with numbers, but rooms and welcome so much and God bless. Okay to okay… I get this out really fast so the Greek numbers are also letters are also numbers of the word for fish in Greek has a mathematical value of 1224 and John 21. The cut hundred and 53 fish in the net we John 2153 fish. What's interesting is in verse I said the number eight. New beginnings eight times hundred 53 Tony fish were caught is the mathematical value of the word fish which is a six which the first letters of the first letter is of each word you call back tomorrow get time I'll tell you what those are and why the word news is that on carbon things like that word fish means with the first letter of each word you want call me tomorrow when it there you go full for the Lord bless you tonight to check out the calendar/calendar will be entry questions in a couple of hours on line a couple of another program powered by the Truth Network