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June 29, 2021 4:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Questions include---1- Matt discusses a branch of annihilationism that is heretical.--2- Doesn't the Bible teach that we, the church, are not appointed to wrath so doesn't that mean that pretrib rapture is true---3- Does God really send babies to hell---4- Are aliens real---5- Why are there so many different sects of Christianity- Is that why people are leaving-

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I had a an interview is kind of a thing with a couple guys who were talking about annihilation is and we went over a heresy, a very serious heresy. This inside of annihilation is now annihilation of this is the teaching that hello hellfire is not eternal, but that people are to be annihilated not exist anymore and so producer all the sound is right every things should be working and so because you hear me and saw that the room expense. Let me know but should work so is a no sound so it's that view will that view is not itself a radical view is is is not bliss it's just not accurate. But it doesn't mean that people believe they are not Christians.

However, there is a view inside of annihilation is some cult physicalism and or anthropological physicalism, and it is a heresy because adaptable heresy and I mean someone who holds to it.

I can't call them a brother or sister in Christ.

The reason is because it teaches that the human spirit the human soul ceases to exist when the physical body dies. Physicalism is the teaching in the anthropological sense and is a teaching that the human being is comprised of a physical body and that the soul or the spirit is generated out of the physical brain, so when the physical brain guys the spirit dies as well and ceases to exist. And that's the problem because that's the case, and that would mean that Jesus was two natures stopped to exist as to natures upon his death, which would mean the human nature would cease. Therefore Jesus ceased to exist understand something that Jesus, he is by necessity with the definition of Jesus is one person with two natures. If the human nature ceases to exist, then Jesus is no longer Jesus and people have understand this, that Jesus came into existence. 2000 years ago.

What I mean by that is the hypostatic union that the place in the time where Jesus became, where he has two natures, the union of two natures that occurred 2000 years ago the word. The second verse of the Trinity is eternal. No problem because he's God, second person, but he became incarnate in human flesh in the conception and by definition Jesus has two distinct natures a divine nature and a human nature. So if you take with a human nature.

It's no longer Jesus and this is what some annihilation is reteaching and anthropological physicalism that when the physical nature of the physical person dies the physical some of the spirit. Human spirit ceases.

This would then mean Jesus ceased to exist.

And that's a adaptable heresy and the reason it is is because it would then deny the carnality of the person of Christ, and it would deny the resurrection, because it would mean it would imply that in order for Christ to be resurrected a new's physical human nature has to be created and then that is what was resurrected and we have a problem of what's called continuity and I will get into too much of this right now, but it is a serious problem. It's this very serious problem and I call all who hold that to repentance, you need to repent of that false teaching is a serious false teaching. So those would hold to that I cannot call the my brother and sister in Christ is not to say the could be Christian and have a faulty understanding and work through think II understand that I get that with the problem is that the they can't they can hold that position. Okay they can't do it. It's a faulty position and we had a discussion on this for an hour and 1/2 today.

There you go in like 20 McCall. We have filed for open lines 877-207-2276 look at the two hour from Georgia help welcome your on-air Mac are precluded. No pretrip rapture. No, I don't believe in creature back. I believe that we got on like the church leaders to rack salvation and the verses's first Thessalonians 59. It's as if God is. The point is to wrath, but salvation so it's consent contrast.

So wrath is damnation and not wrath, but salvation was not about the preacher ablation wrath. It's a very commonly misused verse by of retrievers they regret in the context of subversive phone is 59 for God is not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, so that verse does not get another one. I not teach on my maternal wrath make a fire in the not not bad on your credit is it just is not about the tribulation period of just seven years or 3 1/2 years.

It's not what it's talking about with this is what he says but since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love and as a helmet the hope of salvation for God is not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ seek I thought about the rapture is not about tripling you yeah I'm on Mill Avenue got mono post-trip were to go through the jubilation. And since Jesus says in Matthew 1330 with.

Parable of the wheat and the tares, this only time the past few weeks, which is fine but he says allow both to go together till the end of the angel say to the reapers first gather the tears so the wicked are the first ones gathered at the return of Christ, not the good. Jesus says in Matthew 1330 and as I usually add that if anyone says to minute if you want to take and what is left. The context is it's the wicked who were taken when I show this to people were I tell them that you people frowning their heads. Go sideways like what, never heard that, I say let's read this is read what it says. I say put your finger on meth 2437 and Luke 1726 or Matthew 24 3026 Luke 1737 and clear parallels noise was the days of Noah social would be the date of the coming the Son of Man for they were eating, they were drinking their giving in marriage of the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and took them all away that Matthew 24. Luke 17 says, and the flood came and destroyed them all. The ones were eating and drinking and giving in marriage are the wicked, because that's what the parallel is alright so this has you know and the flood came and took them on the way. That's was taken was the wicked to middle be in the field was taken when his left. It's the wicked who were taken every single time I've ever shown anybody this in years and years of doing this every single time when it when it all mimed in person. They said you're right it's not about the rapture. Now though the landlord is a question related to after break 20 McCall Fauquier for the lines 877-207-2276 Van Slyke why call 770727 tares mats like what your children you wicked and awake now, back to the board .8 in combat with wind understand you think.

When do we combat not taken away from the back, and I'd be turning back on the earth, writing like, well we will verify those coming back.

Rapture occurred in 1919, the rapture occurs the question you asked was about pretrip is a pretrip process on his 59 which does not support it, and 1.1 addresses are stuck in Matthew 24, Luke 17, two men taken, one is left one is this is that's not about the rapture but a judgment. If you read the context of those chapters you it's clear and it is as clear. It is good to compare Matthew 24 Luke 17.

My question this or statement to make about this. What I think is really important. What is wrong with the pastors who were teaching this from those verses and can't get it right for years. That's a question I have nine months in the rapture does not happen yes it does its first Thessalonians 416 project fibers to if they wanted to live in pretrip.

Okay, believe in pretrip with those verses don't have to do with the tribulation rapture they have to do with something else and again when asked what is going on with pastors out there who are using those sets of scriptures and meth.

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Luke 17 for years and have never seen what it really teaches that's a concern tells me they're not doing your exegetical duty when it comes to reading these passages and that's a serious problem if they can't get that basic stuff right would also be getting wrong. That's a concern I have.

I'm saying this because I want pastors and elders to look at the text of everything that they greet and look at the context and ask does it actually say what I think it says in's and I know a lot of times it will but maybe sometimes it won't. And that's what would be the do by checking herself method I'm urging people to do okay now so who's the comeback with Christ.

The Christians are to come back with Christ, we go up into the air to meet him and returned with him and years ago I read a commentary talk about the word about going up to meet him and the word is been used, to go out and meet a dignitary and immediately returned with. So that's one evidence that they are about.

But as it says in Matthew 13 verse 30 it says that you first allow the tears of the week to go together in the first ones gathered are the tears which of the wicked, and gather the wheat into the barn and I certainly hope people are considered to rapture's want to begin the tribulation.

One of the other tribulation because it just you know it just not true. And since the wicked had to be taken first.

According to Jesus own words. Matthew 2430 through 41.

If he says that it has to be the case, then it cannot be that of the wicked occur that the preacher rapture occurs it cannot be.

There's no possible way that could be the case. Okay for the believer here naturally protect one from the judgment on the earth. My email as I may not others because peoples get this idea that is the wrath of God on the earth and ends only for the wicked, and therefore the Christians will just be preserved through it or get out. You don't find that in Scripture you just don't find that what you do find is Matthew 24. The signs of Christ's return. He says you see all these things, verse two, not one stone to be left upon another by the temple and they said in verse three will, when will these things happen and what will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age that significant the end of the age. Most people don't study what this age and the age to come.

Is this the word that the ask and Jesus says to you to that no one misleads you for many will come in my name and will mislead him a minute and you'll hear wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes in the beep of various things they will deliver you over to tribulation and will kill you and you will be hated by all nations because of my name people they will not know no not that You can be the coming tribulation. Because we are Americans. We don't have to suffer weekends pretrip rapture is says but Jesus says Betty 24 nine they will deliver you to tribulation. They will kill you and you be hated by all nations because of my name and at that time many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another.

Many false prophets will arise and deceive many.

Lawlessness is increased when the doors of the end will be saved is the end of this tribulation. The gospel to Cano's reach as a testimony to the nations, then the end will come.

Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of through Daniel the prophet in the holy place than those who are in Judea must flee the mountains lived in the house. Tom was not go down to get things out of his house livers in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. Will to you are pregnant. This is what the believers are going to go through no reason not unfocused to take me say something of portent. This is important I believe that some more persecution and severe persecution, potentially, here is coming to America for the Christians.

Things change so much because of a stupid virus in the government did so many things that are ridiculous and they overstepped their boundaries that the left is gaining more and more power and more assaults are our freedoms and honor our faith in Canada there arresting pastors now who are having congregational meetings in buildings now to buildings well crud flows downhill is good to come down here the same things can happen. So I'm very concerned about doing research on this and will be writing about this in a mostly writing something what to do during this period of time how to how to Fortino to form groups to have communication things to educate your children things like this. I believe it's coming, considering them on that profit.

I just think I reading the times I'm seeing how it is coming in so we have to be prepared.

And I think unfortunately in a misstep on so many toes with this is what I believe the pretrip rapture is cause people to become lackadaisical. That combined with this idea of narcissistic therapeutic Christianity, where you go to church and sing songs all about how God will bless you and how you can be helped you we have these morons on TV. Send $20 and your seed faith that you'll get blessed. It's all about the self is not about their arsons to do this you know and some good pastors out there for leaders to many where it's narcissism where we can God do for me. Money can I get I get out of the tribulation because of you rapture. This is because the Christians all this kind of stuff and more causing Christians to be. We are not standing up for righteousness repair to suffer a hold on break up the folks you call 877207 mass Y call 770727 tears that both ability and all I persecution of the third of those who will not caveman and then go up against each other and would be credited of those of the whole tribulation. On the be safe, throw it out on it right right and I saved is a tough one to interpret because it's the taste of it likely that not not so far but right will start tomorrow.

Regret Catholics and the cults use these that verse in particular with 2413. In order to say that you are good works to be saved as part of the apostasy. Apostasy is coming, but what's interesting is unless this is what Jesus says in the spray cooking method 24 verse 22, 24, 22, unless those days had been cut short.

No life would have been saved but for the sake of the elect those days of the cut short. No life sucks in the Greek so it looks like with us and was talking about his physical deliverance and I'm a pessimistic millennialist and what that means is I believe that when God spoke to Adam in Genesis 217 is the day that you eat of the fruit you will die.

That combined with Romans 519 word says to Adam's sin.

Many were made sinners.

That's what it says right there.

That means all people in Adam first 2015 22, Romans 518 and going to the theology of the Scriptures let I believe that one guy was saying this to Adam he was saying it to mankind because Adam resented mankind.

And so my belief is that the wages in his death that the world will bring itself to death. Things those days had not been cut short the no no flesh would be saved. That's what the word sort means flesh, no flesh would be saved for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short believe Jesus is going to intervene, which is wise to take the wicked out first. He takes the Christians out new heavens and new earth, because he's gonna to gigantic celestial I told you so I'm teaching on this on Thursday night so I worked on or what yeah it'll be on YouTube YouTube and probably on Facebook as well. I just teacher to house and now I'm the let the group decide what I'll take on the next week so they read. They agreed they wanted teach on eschatology, some to go through than I would have handout paper and things like that for them to fill out and will go through this stuff will go through other things and anathema to do that it'll take two hours and then the next week teaching on internal security and will take as long so notice all right.

Thank you. My understanding out with mom.

I know pretrip creatures, radio, and he's great. Also, the way you explained it make more teaching pretrip and where is it where is in Scripture where it is when you give me the verses I listen to the context and it just falls apart and I do this regularly with people listening to context and like versus one is 590 census not talk about unity point is not the wrath, but salvation is not talk about tribulation. And when the people use these verses like this is so bad exegetical no what is going on. People don't realize something, it is a point something out do is go to versus doing the theology look at next caller is listed. Romans 519 for as through the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners and that's what it Adam's sin, going someplace with the middle to one man's disobedience the many were made sinners were made sinners is and was called aorist passive indicative aorist is past tense passive means. The action is received by them. So Adam's disobedience, Adam's sin, made the many that's it's a phrase that Paul uses for everybody made him sinners, so this is because of Adam's work. We fell in him.

This is original sin is the doctrine of Original Sin right there when you go to Philippians 129 for to you it is been granted has been granted is also the aorist passive indicative. It means the same thing as it does in the Romans 519. It means that the action has occurred upon a person so passive is someone you know someone slaps me I received the action. I didn't do it I'm receiving is a passive is aorist meets past tense. So it happens in the past and actually receive in the past for to you it has been granted for Christ's sake not only to believe in him, but also to suffer for his sake. And people say no God never wants us to suffer, then why is it that is been granted for Christ's sake not only to believe but also to suffer Christians don't hear the gospel of suffering they don't hear what it means they don't understand it that Christ suffered.

The apostles suffered in the say hey let's all get out there and to begin to suffer. I don't want to suffer we have to understand that Jesus says the righteous will be persecuted in this world. America is an anomaly in history that because of the Christian principles will put into the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, which I recommend everyone read read the Declaration of Independence because of that we have enjoyed safety but now that the unbelievers are ruling we are not in a post-Christian society, but an anti-Christian society and they are going to increase their hate under hatred they could take their hate speech.

Their hate actions and to take it out on us more and more and more it's going to happen because this is what history teaches us. The unbelievers do. It's coming to America because the Christian church had stood up and said no and risk persecution and risk the suffering because her things greater than a good bank account. There is true is more important than having just health and wealth. There are truths and principles to follow a book of God's rule in God's economy. What God wants us to have and sometimes suffering is a greater thing than prosperity because it breaks us.

It makes us, and it glorifies God.

I'm not saying I want that video suffering, but it's something that happens in the Christian church and is happen for 2000 years all over the world and it's not can stop until Christ comes back. And so he's appointed granted that we suffer, that means it's something that is been by God in his ordination for Christians and people I talked to them about this. They can't believe it because that's not how I been taught about the blonde haired blue-eyed Caucasian surfer Jesus dresser was nightgown standing at the door of your heart, asking permission to commitment comfort you and the Christian churches lost its its strength as a whole lost what it so it has.

And because it's seeking comfort over the will of Christ, then it doesn't go out and carry out the great commission go out into all the nations and make disciples of all all nations, instead of doing that now we go to churches that tell us that were to be healthy and wealthy and listing a bunch of songs to talk about comforting us and that's where Christianity is in the league wanted to let restaurant get served. This is not how it's supposed to be.

I can tell you as a Christian has been fighting the good fight of the faith. For years I've had death threats. I've been swatted. I've been followed in cars. I've had stateless attack the of threat to kill my family.

We had the FBI involved that the police involved the websites been attacked.

I got story after story after story, we got hate mail it that comes in good people say on things and threats.

This is what it means to stand up for righteousness.

And this is what we have to face and so I'm concerned for the Christian church in America because I see it's weakness, far more can I see it strength… We cannot write out of the future as part of the time of the yet to badger to carry soldier yet. Her wing and in order to rein it. You know that I wouldn't agree that showing the verse for that.

Okay, but because our suffering is not what makes us reign with him being in Christ and his miniature ship and his high priestly sacrifice, but I knew, but there is a place of reward for those who suffer for righteousness sake and that we are to be considered were you to be thankful for that. There are many stories of people who have been imprisoned for their faith all over the world for centuries and they talk about the incredible blessing that it was because they get stripped down and they have a faith. Christ, that's where were supposed to have her heart and mind Christ, not in this world.

Okay, thank you for the folks driven lines 877 mass Y call 770776 charismatic slave one fast our minutes left left left it to Dylan from California doing welcome your God very well.

The Bible doesn't say he does or does not, we can say that he does. If he does then that would be right if he doesn't is because of his mercy and his grace we don't know my position and they go to heaven while I doubt if it were, it would be because all of us are sinners. Even little babies have a fallen nature because were by nature children of wrath. Ephesians 23 so we could make the case that that would happen but it doesn't mean that were correct because there are other verses were Jesus was with little children come to me for such is the kingdom of heaven. So it seems to be in other areas that they go to be with the Lord and that's the position I hold to or write well on or about well I can see why you would say that but whatever God does is always right. If they go there, then it would be right, but we don't know if that is what happens. I'm just saying. Logically speaking, if it happens because it's the right thing to do if they go to heaven because it's the right thing to do and God always does the right thing.

So whatever happens is what's right and so I am firmer I believe that the babies go to the Lord okay that help a Dylan how old are you thinking ask just curious. 11 will good and keep listening. I'm I'm hoping that you keep this a big okay all right, good question. Everything else you want to ask more and more I learn about I'm not sure yet aliens the UFO stuff is real. The question is what are they, they are not from other planets okay and just doesn't work that there from other planets and they know your 11 and how much I can tell you that you'd understand life can't form by chance any place in the universe just not can happen. I like all that's a possibility because if life does exist someplace, it would have to be by God's hand. He doesn't say if there there out there or not. We don't know. And so we can't say it's true, we can say is false because we don't know but I do know that life can't form by itself is not going to happen and the question is what are these aliens and they teach about Jesus and they teach that he's not God, and they teach that reincarnation is true and things like that they teach things in contradiction to the Bible are on way. Well, that I read that tiny because there why I think that they have a demonic influence of some sort in connection there and categories are not people who had not know he can't create life. Only God can do that and this gets and the more topics, but there are lots of people to talk about this. There's a website called Que house.org K HO USC.org and you can look up stuff on aliens there and they have books and documentation about a Lotta stuff.

There's real stuff it's happening. I've been studying these things for decades. It's real. The question is what is it I'm sorry Christians have seen stuff. But Christians don't get abducted over the unbelievers get abducted and when they cry out to Jesus. The abduction ends way and there's a definite spiritual thing going on okay will show their fair carrying arm doesn't seem to be certainly does not evidence does not support that there from God's have had her for time.

It does not look like they are from God. In fact, the more and more people are learning how to contact aliens in the methodology that the use is right out of the cult and séances things like that and so I talked the wealth summons is not witchcraft, it's more like a New Age kind of meditation technique where they do various things in and wait for them to manifest in the end, the certain to happen more so I know you got that right the very least a Preston and that's correct so yeah this sounds generally it's it's there's a lot there is more. You maybe next year I'll do some more sections on that canal area 5108 atheist I don't know why be a theist there, and Christians are to technology has is increased.

A great deal and for fun, I suggest people study Nikola Tesla is an incredibly smart man who died in the 50s, 1950s, and some of the things that he invented there still trying to figure out and there's lots of people who are really smarter working all kinds of stuff and so there probably 51 smarter places. Christians were not there all alone. I got car backyard.

That's a different guy that's a different guy they don't know how he was able to move the stones the way he did right.

It's a mystery. But know this is I forgot you, it's a different guy Nikola Tesla.

He's this fascinating P invented Tesla TSL electric car. As with any good after this really interesting how to enter singers lots of smart people out there and there's lots of inventions that are better out there to lots of stuff for distance consumers are smart people and we we advance and we can continue to do that. So just it's fun. Okay, I would wouldn't be surprised if the government has alien type ability comingyour kind ability is that I would be surprised that nothing they do.

I just wouldn't be surprised in all maybe tap maybe okay okay nice talking to you Dylan, or her okay will talk you later miscue called back.

All right, let's get on with Rich from Indiana Rich welcome and yeah that they been so many and that I got back at London so I people have been people are leaving the faith. It is a good thing that because I don't what the author said that back Visions, yeah, well, there are too many divisions. I think leaving the church because I could be wrong. Distance sincerely idea because the power of the word of God is not being preached and taught and that when it is infrequently taught Christians want to go someplace where there more comfortable and when the persecution comes the Christian church is going to be cleaned out, purified and then strengthened. So I think that you are leaving because I don't have answers.

Most pastors don't have answers at some the difficult questions and I'm not knocking them thing a pastor than difficult job.

It takes a special kind of person to do it, but they need more and more apologetics need to build to weave these things into sermons they need to be even better trained because there's just more needs now more attacks on the gospel to every moment Gandhi Mohammed Gandhi Kate Denton.

He did and wanted it didn't wander quickly and standing there was someone in the right that he be a Christian wasn't for the Christians. Yeah, something like that right. You so so social) right-handed Baptists contacted this writer argue Christians why they unite as one long coat is good question I think is a great question. I think they don't because they focus on the nonessentials over the essentials actually divide so some to believe that the baptism can't join with some who doesn't believe that the baptism suitably is the charismatic good schedule so that it doesn't leave the charismatic gifts instead of five.

Romans 14 which says to not pass judgment on debatable issues, then with the do they divide and that's exactly what the devil wants wants the Christian church divided and weakened. Nothing happens. I I'm a I'm I am I I do it and my sin then you tend the church did and eight I a and I DO messianic church. Okay, what are messianic churches. Some are good and some are not so good just depends what they focus on if they focus more on the Old Testament then Jesus that's a problem. So you have to keep the laws or to please God, that would be bad if they just like the messianic stuff and they and Jesus is the head and the lead in all of it. Okay, so that a problem with all don't deny the essentials of the faith. My old man when there's a break by meters into the show, but he called back again okay Rich, I love a gumline Johnson from Dallas.

Sorry about that because Vanessa found a folks by God's grace back on there tomorrow. Hopefully we will then another program powered by the Truth Network