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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network Matt slick. Why is the founder and president of listed apologetics research was found alive on board you have questions of our Bible doctrine is a Matt Slick Live branches are called responded to your questions at 877207276 pairs. Matt slick Matt slick slick life. If you want to call 772072276 last four digits spell see the art room on your dial physical if I want so many different some of you may have noticed, we changed a few things on the Karam homesite page.

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I have you thought about this for quite a while. I knew the story is going to a job and I purposely was because they couldn't leave the car and the reason I couldn't leave the car was because of the story they were telling true events about of missionary team that was coming back from Russia over the Bering Strait disc. It was such a gripping story motility not numbered perfectly but these guys were up guys and girls and how many 44567 something like that and they wanted to engine plane and coming back with Bering Strait had engine trouble and if you crash land back straight you have on the lift it's freezing water will before they taken off in Russia. Someone asked him to carry some gas cans were empty gas cans so they put them in the aisles of the auto liberties between the seats, however, worked and they eventually had his gasket and considered they were flying and they lost one engine and then they lost the other engine and then the pilot put out a distress signal and a crash landed into the Bering Strait. If you the details puts him. Someone picked up the distress signal and relayed the information to whoever whatever and they contacted an airliner that was flying over and asked airliner to drop down and see if they could see anything in the water. They weren't sure where this was or what was going on and the pilot and copilot so they saw a reflection of something down in the water at a certain location well what happened. These people had crash landed in the water and was nobody absolutely nobody around to help them in done so they were floating on the gas caps. The plane was sinking and did sink and they just let his gasket out there floating on the gas cans and so they're waiting.

They had nothing out there to die. That are praying.

Just ask God to deliver them all right.

So in the meanwhile, the airliner it's head given the location with there's no way to get out there because you can get a boat out there to take a plane out there. The only thing they could use would be a helicopter just so happens that there were two guys carrying two helicopters through some area off the coast and they were stopped at a place, getting a break.

Getting lunch with was in the word came in. Hey can you guys go out in the helicopters as he can find the latest helicopters and they go out out of the Bering Sea.

Not knowing where they were at a general idea and he just went out there and if people talking about times in the water. My legs were freezing you were sitting there talking are praying and asking God to deliver us if you always gonna die. And that's okay in the hope and the hurt and they look off the horizon or these two dots coming right at it was of two helicopters and helicopter pilots just happened it just had right at and how far off the shore.

It was like 20 minutes or so, but at 15 I don't know what the they came right up to that on the people in the water were freezing and having a lot of trouble functioning because your body just shuts down and so what happened was that two guys and another couple guys that's right because one of them held to this matter. One of them flew the helicopter and another guy reached down and grabbed the people of the water of the cans and drug him into the helicopter. This went on and on, which is risky and this woman was in the water. She said she said that she was watching as they were the guy was getting each one of them off the cans and employment to the helicopter the helicopters I forgot which and she couldn't hold on any longer to the cans and she she starts slipping off the cans you couldn't move she's freezing underbody hypothermia, severe and lost motor control and she started rotating off the you know the can and she said she watched as the water covered her face and she could watch the water surface moving away from her and her hand was up and this guy reached down through the water and grabbed her hand and pulled her back up and save her life, and they all made it back anyway so as were the story, I can't yet thought of.

But that's a long and I remember I couldn't get to work late on purpose you would listing that could leave you with so that's what it is what it is or what got me on a… Stories are fun and interesting and I got some real life wants to talk about sometime anyway hey folks, you may call for the lines 877-207-2276. Let's get to help Alberto from Georgia elders open welcome around here when you about you know we said no was the father follow exactly what you meant by we said that Bob would be about to go. The name on that look like they did have hair on that know I will be at the Met Craig okay did you mention the Jehovah's Witnesses. I just ask you did mention them. Are you studying with them at the street street okay okay so so Jesus says in John 14 9K is as I have been long so long with you Philip that he was seen missing the father. How can you say shows the father. Jesus is the express representation of the father. That's Hebrews chapter 1 verse three, I believe it is the radiance of his glory and exact rotation of his nature to Jesus as a representation of the father the cat.

Nobody can actually see the father because Jesus says in John 646.

Not that any man has seen the father except the one who is from God. He has seen the father not talk about himself when they see God in the Old Testament in Genesis 17, 118, one Exodus 6213X 24 nine 211, number 12, six through eight, when they see God it's always Supreme Court, Jesus. So he was the one who represented the father because no one can see the father so because he's a representation of the father of the nature. The father then there for you to see if you see me using the father okay okay so you get the rye got God as father God is spirit. John 424 sprigs not have flesh and bones. Luke 2439 so the father is this not a physical form and unlike the Mormons that say that God is about 6 feet tall and has a goddess wife. They keep their planet okay so this is not biblical at all. So when you talked about this issue of of of seeing the father. Jesus is a representation of the father that is going on in the attributes are the what we would say the human form and what we call the communicable attributes of God loves we can love God hates we can hate God could think we can think he doesn't perfectly, but we don't and so we please attributes of God's nature are communicated to us and we can participate in the likewise computer catered to the human person of Christ. The human person, the one person Christ the human nature okay. Think God so we can camp you got to eat pretty. So we can make God in shape shape form, but I got my hot dog. You don't write that's correct and so pure in heart as the Beatitudes are wisdom statements you will see God.

Now Jesus is the link to see God at any time, and so balanced about what you saying in one sense, we can see just as Stephen saw the glory of God and ask 75 to 60 is probably talk about something like that. Thank you. Welcome right back on the left. Okay, let's get to Jay from Boise, Idaho, J.

Welcome around here hello and thank you okay there now. Okay so here me you sound so I have a question about: a cup or about annihilation narrowly related to annihilation but it is somewhat related, so I don't know if you: but I we talked about version of annihilation of the where there is a torment followed by an ultimate annihilation that I brought up as the fulfillment of the law wire then annihilated. If they fulfill the requirements of the law they should be saved as a logical problem with that position that the so my question that I wanted at a stop. That was the Bible the Old Testament the really all throughout yellow exhaust God's fairness, I write tooth for tooth and nail and nail salon support so is there any way under the ECT view that there is a level of fairness in getting out like the atheist grandma Dale, Hitler, or is there is there some other explanation of why the same punishment for all is fair is eternal and restoration with intensity is different. Some will be with few stripes, some of many Jesus is a forgot where you set so so that's a steady one for eternity. The reason is because they've offended and eternal God, and to be annihilated is to stop punishment. Punishment in the Bible's experienced you'll find a place in Scripture were summits punished and the punishment itself is nothing that would be highly old on every right back after these messages feel the lines 87720776 max Y call 770-7276 charismatic sling lines. What you give me a call 877-207-2276. Still, there all right where were we punishment so I my question and follow-up within the how can there be different severity and punishment in and eternal will answer to give you an example might think that question might be like a non sequitur something, but like so like I would just say you and I am 1/3 person and I'm talking J Matt that they J get an infinite amount of gold and not get an infinite amount of gold. Gold will be more infinite days all will be more work, more than it is none of your. You not understand the issue and I can tell that you want to hold to annihilation is so that I reason my sink. It is matter-of-fact out of the sink. I can tell by the way you phrased it because it was a definite misunderstanding of the issue. This is the kind of thing that they do on these annihilation the sites they don't really tackle the issue logically Bible says that people receive many stripes and some few stripes. This is what the Bible says and that there's a punishment that goes on is this is Matt. 11 2222, the more tolerable for you but for that city for tire tyrants outside and then for you more tolerable in that what the day of judgment. If there annihilated house.

It helps one punishment were sent another if they don't exist, then, is not punishment nonexistence is not punishment.

It's not punishment.

They see the cessation of life is punishment, no cessation of life, the cessation of life. Punishment is something this experience in the Bible.

That's how it always worked on the studies. Now we understand that some will be beat. With few stripes forever and some with a lot of stripes forever. That's it. And you can't say well you know five stripes a year or versus 10 stripes. Your friend forever is the same. Well it is and it isn't but we did was call the problem of the scalded nap is potential in and done actual incidents an actual infant is what you're talking about is logical problems with it.

Give an example an actual infinite is that you know if you just take your hand up and I'm part of you know, 2 feet foot apart, whatever is make a difference and there's a line between your fingertips. A single line.

How many points are on the line with an infinite number would take half of that link that line how many points are on their wallets and infinite numbers. Well, how could half the infinite be equal to the whole of the infinite. This is why there's a problem with actual incidents because they are rather paradoxical. A potential incident is different so the potential infinite has a beginning of of an event or sequence of events that continues on so if there's an infinitely long line of dominoes to one side and yet it has a beginning and you and I are standing at the beginning that infinitely long line of dominoes is time to be in the future right and we click over those dominoes.

It doesn't have an infinite regression but has a definite beginning and so will go on forever, but whenever we want to stop to measure it is a finite number as a potential of being infinite as long as a sequence of events continues. So both of these issues infinite. We talk about his natural infinite will work, but really the need to focus on was called potential infinite. So if five stripes an hour versus 10 stripes in our for eternity. Both of them are eternal. But there is a greater punishment potential greater potential punishment for one than there is for the other seven accents visit the other day, it reminded me a little bit of a Chesterton and is something about how big circle and a small circle are the same infinite length of reminder that you absolute incident around actual incidents are really problematic and I use them in apologetics dealing with atheists who say the universe is infinite.

The old you go into the issue of the Kalon cosmological argument and infinite regression one because causes can have that because his natural infinite, but there's problems with them.

So God is himself infinite and the actual sense, but in the sense, we can't understand because we don't relate to him the way he actually is and then get issue of time beginning all life gets more complicated but for people who had a beginning of existence, and then they die and they continue on and receive in ECT they received punishment. Five stripes are using is as and also illustrations five stripes or 10 stripes in our well the potential infinite of those is different because it's 10 for our you know 1020 4010 2030 4050 versus five, 10, 15, 20, 30, so the amount of punishment is actually different during the duration and we stopped to measure how many stripes each one is received this up and it's a finite number so there is an absolute difference there.

Okay, so the annihilation nests when they get into this this this logical conundrum.

They don't understand the issues and they don't understand that they don't understand that punishment is experienced in the Bible and to say that punishment is to not exist is is nonsense because we never find in the Scriptures any place for God to punish you and nothing happens. Punishment is experienced. It goes on and there's a discipline that's how it is in the Scriptures so Matthew 25, 46, and I love this what they do with this thing.

They always read in the text.

These will go away to eternal punishment for the righteous eternal life.See the punishment is juxtaposed with life. So, therefore, means death. So, minimum eternal life means life in a blast to sense with God eternal punishment means that punishment that eternal outside the presence of God and both have existence both have existence.

That's what punishment is to the annihilation nests repeatedly read into the text and make the text say what they wanted to say different ways and it's aberrant and it leads to further problems. The more you hold onto it.

Continuity issues punishment issues and if you got a karmic right of my articles you'll know I've written a great deal on this and you go look at the word punish several words in Greek the use for punish, go look and see how they're used in the Bible you'll see some it's a surgeon quite varied, but in Matthew 2546 eternal punishment. It's worse colossus to go and look up a colossus is used for the research and check it out is that mean cessation visibly nonexistence okay on that answer. I'll deftly be think I will probably be called back here shortly. Then in the upcoming weeks. But I appreciate your effort in the probably not you to Bible study here on Thursday nights and nap. If you attended I'm going to some basic doctrine, some basic and advanced doctrine in about a week of my start this Thursday and finish up Jude in the probably jump into some Dr. McGough slowly and really get into some deep issues okay. You know, but it flew above the okay to email you probably got less all right. Wherefore the lines going to call folks 877-207-2276, there's the break valve is not the break for open lines calling 7777 mass Y call 770-7276 charismatic slave that you you will. I thought it would be you don't start and I how slick I am slick, but how you doing your great great I know about about annihilate but one of the things that you want it they real quick that might look right. My I wonder think that love how annihilate utilize the word kernel they wanted to win the word eternal mean temporary modified and then would it be you know me by Matthew 25 something is a perfect example that eternal life and eternal Band-Aid felt only eternal and want to go when it out and started at birth.

The temporary modified by the other one is you know you currently yeah if you put it out there midway up the question what you out.

Maybe, maybe a month ago by name with Bob and I have a couple running regular bait. Talk about how the light may have been bringing up that thing called Micmac p.m. eggnog Manichaean call mechanism and a yet yet yeah you Keith associated met with That that.album with an act like that. I do know I know if you ever heard yesterday that you refresh my memory, what equipment when it was warm and see.

It's been slow you have looked outside often hit well what the note to me a quick rundown of how you know what what what came first and how to go play out in a plague late you know them Arminianism. Calvinism give me a brief by Maria well mechanism is the issue that others like again and again a good and the bad and like dark and there's two main forces in the universe and so if you were to say that Calvinism relates to mechanism. He has no clue what he's talking about non-interest rate lesson so Pelagianism was a heresy that occurred in the three or 400s Pelagianism teaches by Pelagius who taught that when a person is born, that his soul, his spirit is not fallen but he's in a state of neutrality motel but also a blank slate is basically good and he becomes a sinner by sending as Pelagianism. So basically research councils are addressed throughout history just condemned it is flat out heresy because it is heresy and then say Pelagianism, which is what a lot of churches teach semi Pelagianism says, to borrow a little bit of a phrase from Prince is bright. You know when no medical max that you just mostly dead and so sinfully and his impact would say it was great show. Semi Pelagianism would say that these persons born in sin. Just mostly dead, but he still capable of receiving Christ of his own freedom is on wisdom's own will, because he just needs the right information that kind of a thing.

This is what's going on inside of Platonism and it was condemned as a heresy in the Council of Orange. I know that and I reject as false teaching is not practical and most Christian churches today teach that this may not say out, but it a teacher because of the man in excess humanism. See we have buttons to deliver side note here we have two worldviews to main world is Christianity and everything else and it is grace or works, but we also have this issue. The second versus a secular and a secular is humanism and humanism is man centeredness man centeredness is the idea that man is the measure in the standard of what's right what's wrong and true while another form of file humanism is to judge truth by one's own experience so someone will say I was.

I chose Jesus, I and the one who prayed.

I'm the one who realize I needed him. I'm the one me me me me me is what they're doing is not reading the scriptures about how they see the possible clearly teach about that with her doing is using their own experience as a judgment of what is true and is called humanism and so humanism creeps into the church. This way, and select that's what is now the Bible says that God grants. We believe with 120 not grandsons repented 2nd to 225 causing born again first in 13, born again, not of her own will. John 113 22 eternal life acts 1348 the dove for the foundation of the world were chosen. Ephesians 143 Destin Ephesians 15 this is what the word of God says doesn't say that looks of the future to see who's gonna pick him or what person has this wisdom in himself that he can pick up someone else didn't it to those older false teachings and to make churches teach today because her humanistic and or philosophy imposed upon the Scriptures in this area. When I say this I know a lot of people are frowning and say don't agree the that's right you do and you know because you and I talked often on for years in a different context of debate. A lot of people and that's the that's the case, because humanism is crept to the church that any rate, so that's what + Platonism, Platonism is in this issue the Manichaeans guide doesn't really talk about this article.

She's uninformed in that particular area of the question baked and met with the conflict going on out I was I hurt my back Taubman of them kind of up with a look acronym kinda came about as a as a reaction to the Arminian leg little bit more that you came up afterwards as is often the case acronym some things help us remember other things came and being I forgot exactly when and how and who and what you two look was developed by forgot who I think was your minions I think that I could be wrong to say to give a mnemonic to remember the main points to UL IP you know what we have five points and five solos. Also, gravitational great don't grace, only faith. Only Christ only scriptural not only the glory of God on so these are the five solos and we had a five points and in the five solos in the five points. In my opinion you have the epitome of biblical theology where God is the most greatly glorified and we recognize our sinfulness and the very merciful work of God to save us. That's right okay that okay that that I got a liquid without you can get back in line out you get back in line. You know, because I can tell, that's the last time he met your lot smarter/good thing I forget, so I was think you're right, you probably up to about 80 now. You've improved so let's raise the I'm 82. We should get our life together.

Then they could be great is if your wife and my wife were sitting in the same room and we weren't saying anything within the room just listening. They did know. Weird, all that would be good to take notes that your husband that that's not stupid, let me say what my husband did as I would be noted yet we have to make it.my wife will probably update met with the have a documentary made for me Matt, but do they really drive right by what they will back in line out all right by Douglas right as you guessed quite a while. He's a great guy is really on flood Norsk with the same sense of humor is the safest. Hubert sozzled arrived to get a bill from Raleigh North Carolina built welcome you on near elements. I read today in the first book of Samuel. Towards the end.

I'm in the car. Chapter 29 or 30 call with crying or they were fighting the Philippine light he couldn't hear from God and thoroughly thought out with and got no rebuke. The I think is still the sorcerers afflicted 20 oh he was right at 28 okay thank you and then so when out with common ball. I'm sorry Samuel, who is Samuel and that's coming what's going on there because she was taken aback like yeah that's what I believe the house that house that I think actually think about it though out with money you know a great man of God will hear and turn the let me help you. It's a whole lot of time and hey folks right back after these messages we have life-giving colleagues of 0777 mass Y call 770-7276 charismatic slave right reminder were going to Israel next year and during the month we are stopping $100 discount for the trip. Sign up this month you can go with us to Israel over Christopher sign up it's going it's going great. Don't check it out this good karma Israel.com see ARM Israel one word.com and check not a lot of fun.

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Looking forward to going again so well by God's grace will end up there all right check it out. Karma Israel.com bill from Raleigh still there, but I'm here okay so my question is, who wanted what that American thing to help you and then what Daniel coming from heaven to the other gifts to think that is confusing for I don't understand it. So first of all, of what happened is a familiar spirit, or familiar spirits which are demonic deceptive spirits that imitate humans and people were in contact with this, which called which of Endor for symbol 28 and when she saw that it really was Samuel that she knew that the gig was up and was up and so she says hey you're Saul and etc. so it looks like it really was Samuel who was called up was only called up not because you the power to but because Saul was good be rebuked and got allow that occur in ounces cup out and so the view was before the crucifixion of Christ at all. People went to a principal is in his two sections one is a good place was back at Paradise and in the place of judgment is Luke 1619 to 31 with Lazarus and the rich man so that's why would some of the fourth, you know the not set in what you got on the ball go to heaven I don't know.

I don't know what it was judged on or about the vampire installing guard like him around in the under no, I'm not sure. I think he probably was also of covenant stuff, but that's okay. Thank you, have a government. Douglas all right Liska to Rosanna North Carolina, Roseanne, are you there rose there.

I am okay I am here. Good night so you and I have to tell you I have looked at the man of God.

Throughout my escape everywhere and you think.

And I respect you highly that is my question. My current effect on God To cry at an early age that on one 1011 Christian goals. Although I at the college favor with the college career at the first year and then somewhere in that sophomore and on.

He has been hardly off off chart making pie. I kind of fade toward divine restrictive making communication because now I am thinking about God or the anything to do with religion and I hereby on how to handle that that God had for him, he cannot wait for now.

They sent you not remember the five-year-old.

That way I God for getting it at work done my immediately the prayer that and give God.

I thank you for dying on the profit they make from my stand that you agree that you work at the wall 130 of the popular all I'm thinking right now and then. The fact was more powerful or more that is way beyond the five euro level and again.

Not that we can blow on my mind and heart that nine and that I can't again convey conflict. After that I grew up with another heart that maybe he will maybe have gotten to the place that you have gone to our God, rambling thought that we can pick I can jump in here if you'd like to talk okay as I understand your pain.

I have a daughter who same kind of thing and I can even repeat how far she's gone away from God because it's just not it's not for Christian radio site, and so what I do and we taught her. My wife and I taught her and talk. There's no guarantees okay except when work once were saved so I don't know if your son was really say the five messing it was nothing he wasn't.

If he really was. God will deal with them and either kill them take him home. My first, it is five to save his soul or let him have his sin, to teach them a lesson and then he'll repent or he really wasn't saved and you will find out what happens.

Either way, the job that we have as parents is to trust God my life and I pray every night.

I always leave a prayer that always always pray for the salvation of your overall ivory daughters and for all of them prefer all of them appropriately for each one is that we do and that's what we can do your plus your mom moms can't say and have stuff like that but a streetlight could not notice and on the day that my daughters loves a guy that I know and he he had to apologize to me says she'll listen.

Everything I say but the Lord no problem apologize to understand how we as NG. I suggest King Kong would keep talking is okay you know he comes in. See that you are. I know it, it's mom and I forget which is trust God and keep praying and keep praying and don't push it. Let God deal with his heart and convict him, but I will save this summer tell you I don't talk about this very often and really don't. But I I backslid for a couple of years and I was so backslidden.

I called up my brother is going to a Christian University and I threatened him and told him to stop praying for me because eviction was getting bad and I'm so embarrassed, to say this. This is what I did.

One day I shook my fist up and your God and yelled in the leave me alone and will you and so here I am now. I lost that argument and praise God for his mercy. So accurately I look back on my life back then in some areas like why did God let me live. I don't know except assumed by his mercy don't know what the end of the picture. It has been noted in the story and so you need to trust God as I do with my children, my wife and I do to trust our Lord with them and continually ask God to save and then ask God to bring people into his life to witness to ask God to convict him of the sin and see Christ in you, without the lecture that I don't mean that it derogatory bias toward you as a mom and dad say anything to lecture while it so you got a really big cool little else. I pray thinking that I fell right every I hear you give it by you're doing what they doing. Thank you. In spite of my sin and only because of God's grace and I pray that God uses weak so I can do that pretty Gothic burlap lightly and thanking them out. You welcome so much goblet. Okay, back, right lips, I hit the wrong button I just hit the wrong button on some I hung up on my apologies.

That case, let's get to is on those for Samuel to send messed up. Let's get to Matt from Florida met welcome you on the air.

Matt Long find that there are five dollar okay you must be an intelligent, humble, good looking guy with a name like math.

I have a question about second Corinthians 12 90 character the migrate efficient. The Greek word for the word three to find out what what the Greek word one and then, in Jonah. They use the lovingkindness and Jonah or to an Nokia it would look same lovingkindness very know the Old Testament Jonah and he and the new test was written in Greek, completely different languages, and so in Jonah 42 persona gracious and compassionate God. The word there is. See what I get sick and read it any which completely different word in Greek. It's careless and solar distant is completely different.

Okay okay I just didn't understand how they could liken my amplified Bible lovingkindness is great and was racing to find out what the great the Greek word grace with grace really is okay so we help you so you have a bicycle I can move your house to steal your bike you catch me. I go to jail and punished that's justice.

I get what I deserve. I called your house is still your bike. You catch me but you like what I do the radio you say go away. I'm not gonna call the cops on you. That's mercy.

I don't get what I deserve. Justice is getting what you deserve.

Mercy is not getting what you deserve now is to grace your house are still your bike and you give me the cash for you give me the bike and 100 bucks, guys this that's grace getting what you don't deserve a good way. Grace is not just a kindness is the act of God emanating out of his essence is being where he graciously that's the final room, the term, but he gives to us in a good way, that which we absolutely do not deserve, that's grace and so that's what grace is selective definition you gave me was just really insufficient. Okay so I got up lovingkindness and yes and mercy and justice and righteousness and so he is all of these things and you look great. He says my grace is sufficient because Paul had been sick with you. 1210 he had a problem. Physical infirmity in this discussion about what that might be and yet got to my grace is sufficient. When he sang there is that I'm going to be with you in on the comfort you and show you kindness, but you still to be in your problem with the site of thank you very much for goblet.

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