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Why I Don't Agree with Being “Open But Cautious” When It Comes to the Holy Spirit

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October 4, 2022 4:30 pm

Why I Don't Agree with Being “Open But Cautious” When It Comes to the Holy Spirit

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network there some folks disabled when it comes to the things of this. I'm open but cautious set of biblical mentality time for the light a fire with your host biblical scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity. Call 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown. We are going to have go and theological discussion today you get to the word. We'll talk about some practice skews me some practical issues.

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Regardless of cost or consequence that's been something very dear to my heart for decades by God's grace is what I'm determined to do for the rest of my life.

Okay what about this idea of being open but cautious. I was talking to the leader of large Christian school on time and he said all we we've changed our stance now we are officially open but cautious. Another pastor said to me, pastor of a major church.

She said will Wear charismatics with seatbelts. Well, I wonder about those mentalities. I wonder how biblical that is if if the gifts of the spirit like speaking in tongues, prophecy, healing, or still for today estate if they are still normative in the body to become convinced based on Scripture. They are Scriptures.

What matters to me here this is that the authority the word of God. If we convinced that, therefore, today, shouldn't we embrace them fully. Heart, soul, mind, strength, should we say amen Lord we are earnestly pursuing these things according to your word PCA about were supposed use discernment. Of course we are and where to test spirits.

Of course, but when you determine that it's genuinely the Holy Spirit, shouldn't you dive in with with with both feet. Both handwritten just totally divalent and let me ask you this, when it comes to your relationship with the father.

Your love for God or serving God relationship to Jesus your love for the Savior, serving him or are you cautious in that order when it comes to the word of God to read the word of God with seatbelts on, or do embrace Lord, whatever you say. I'm I fully embrace the Civil War. There's a big difference there because the word of God is perfect with a lot of flaky charismatic things done well a lot of flaky things done in the name of the word.

There a lot of flaky teachers there a lot of false doctrines you say while you're comparing apples large is not comparing the word with the spirit. The word is perfect. The spirit is perfect when you recognize the spirits at work don't you jump in fully with both feet. When use recognize the truth of the word don't you jump in fully when you recognize something is the voice of God.

Don't you jump in fully and it is never biblical mentality so III appreciate folks who say I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure what the word really says on this. I'm not sure if the word does say that these things are for today so so I'm open but cautious okay will then be sure study into sure one way or the other come to conclusions as best as you can study the claims out study the evidence for ongoing miracles. Compare that to the word of God, by all means, be sure.

But one sure, sure, shouldn't you and that since take the seatbelt off unless you were seatbelt, your whole relationship with God comes to loving Jesus. I'm open but cautious when it comes to follow the Scriptures. I'm open but cautious. No real live like that duly descent once someone realized Jesus as the Messiah when he was on the earth, and they run after to follow him as a Jesus unfollow you but I'm cautious.

No you what what what about the parables in Matthew 13 the treasure hidden in the field and the pearl of great price. When the man discovers this treasure in the field he sells everything he has to buy that field for the treasure then and when the Wendy's funds is probably great price he sells everything acid to get that pearl you right after the Lord you throw yourself in when Jesus appeared to Saul of Tarsus right and and revealed himself and sauces. Who are you, Lord, on Jesus whom you are persecuting this all then say all right I'm gonna follow you, but be cautious because a lot of false messiahs out there now. Once he was. It was him.

He dove in heart, mind, soul, strength, everything.

So Osama bin biblical here. Also having a New Testament mentality when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the believers and ask the second chapter with a open but cautious. Well this tongues is new. This tongues of fire.

It was seen that before soul. I know Jesus. It was coming, but let's be cautious.

Now they said this is the spirit of this what Joel prophesied they knew it they knew it, and then the fruit came to demonstrate it is isn't is in fact the scriptural mentality friends again.

You want to be sure of what Scripture says, but once you're sure and rise.

This is the Holy Spirit at work. Embrace said wholeheartedly so. So here's what I tweeted out over the over the because this was praying and this came to mind. So I tweeted this out when it comes to the gifts of the spirit for today. Some believers say they are open but cautious but is that the biblical mentality we open the cautious when comes to the word mature relationship with Jesus. Why then should we be open but cautious with the spirit and end.

Then I began to interact with some folks and I said this, of course, I know what people mean by open but cautious. I just don't see that as a biblical mentality. There plenty false teachers and false doctrines out there yet were not open but cautious with the word because of that, or we would people respond yet, but the word is perfect. Yes, but the spirit is perfect as well. I see yet you people posted first John four test the spirits. So what I posted this in response we test the spirits. We embrace the Holy Spirit.

We eagerly pursue spiritual gifts is the word commands us to. We reject all counterfeits so it isn't that the biblical mentality friends. This is meant so let's take a look in the Scriptures are right, lets us go to the word start first Corinthians chapter 12 and and Paul writes this now concerning spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed so this is important, but don't want to be uninformed. You know that when you were pagans led astray to mute idols, however you were led there for lunch.

Understand that no one speaking in the spirit of God ever says Jesus is accursed and no one can say Jesus is Lord except in the Holy Spirit. Now there are varieties of gifts, the same spirit, and they are varieties of service, but the same Lord.

And there are varieties of activities, but is the same God who empowers them all and everyone spirit. Lord God, the Trinitarian formula to each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.

So this is a good thing. This is a positive for to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same spirit to another faith by the same spiritual gifts of healing by the one Spirit to another the working of miracles, to the prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one of the same spirit who appoints to each one individually as he will for just as the body is one of his many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Messiah from one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, Jews or Greeks laser free and all were made to drink of one Spirit. So the activity of the Holy Spirit is very important here in Paul's teaching and nowhere does he say no were dizzy hand at all the even in the slightest that this is just something that is only for those of the first error, though it's clear in Paul's mind. This will continue until Jesus returns you find that in first Corinthians the first chapter where he commends them for not liking any spiritual gift. Despite all the mess in their midst and the abuse of spiritual gifts, he commends them for not liking any spiritual gift, even as they eagerly await the return of the Lord in first Corinthians 1313 he's quite explicit, quite explicit, saying that that these things will continue until clearly the Lord returns. That's what he speak them until we see him face-to-face into we know as we are not the very fact that we still have dispute debate about these things means we have not reached that point yet, Paul said there are important fact this is the break we are looking for.

Strengthens 14 to see how Paul told us we should relate to these things laying out the way of love is the most important way of all.

He doesn't say. Therefore, get rid of this things of the spirit.

No exercise the gifts of the spirit by love and through love and for love then we come into the fullness of God's purpose then we see why these are soul important.

So life-giving, so life changing. I have watched the spirit work for decades and seen lives dramatically gloriously changed for the honor of the Lord for the honor of the name of Jesus for the deepening of the foundation of the word in people's lives, we should embrace joyfully with the spirits doing take off the cautious seatbelt dive into the things of the spirit, because that's what the word tells us to do throughout the counterfeit test everything race that which is true if the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown various on the line of fire, 86684 truth by all means calling and differ with me.

By all means well your reasons why you think I'm wrong, I'm serious love to interact. It's it's helpful. It's useful because you may call and you may speak for many others. They may feel the same way that you do, but maybe you can articulate it little better than I can say hey good point or not.

Here's what I don't agree we can friendly discussion for the benefit of everyone listening and watching fair enough practice. Try to give opportunity light. I always look for opportunity to discuss dialogue you may know this, but if I'm invited to speak on a college campus on a controversial subject just generally why I'm invited my college campus and also generally why it's so rare that people actually do invite me on the college campus or if they do invite me manage to actually get me in, but I always propose coming to debate it. In other words, if you want me to speak on topic. A.

Can we get someone who holds a different viewpoint and this will become a public debate on it and people can see and hear both sides.

Of course, generally speaking, will draw more people for debate format that many times that's the case, but II wanted not just to draw more people.

I wanted to be fair I want people especially college campus hear both arguments for both sides and and and if that fails, and normally it does hard to get someone to do debate then to debate me on particular subjects I should say then what I said is right. We have over my Q&A afterwards. Can we open things up for people to express their differences and challenge me and raise questions. I love that I welcome that if you love truth, then you have nothing to fear. The results may hurt, they may be painful to deal with, but if your truth you have nothing to fear.

Alright, so I'm on the word guy right. I love the things of the spirit of the moving of the spirit of love, the gifts of the spirit.

I want to see the spirit move more and more in me, through me to minister to others. Absolutely.

But I everything that I believe has to be based in Scripture. The foundational thing sometime about the fundamentals they must be based on Scripture if they're not based on Scripture. Then I I must question them must challenge them if they are in harmony with Scripture and I feel overwhelmingly that the Holy Spirit is speaking these things and in harmony with Scripture. Wonderful benefits contrary to Scripture on care of their 10 angels that come down in earthquakes and whatever and if if it's contrary to Scripture.

I rejected right some real simple about these things. So let's let's go to first Corinthians chapter 14 after Paul expresses that the glorious beauty of love and importance of love and true love looks like this is this first Corinthians 14 one pursue love and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy that prophecies are preaching prophecy such as preaching the word are teaching the word prophecies different as is speaking inspired utterances by the spirit speaking the mind of God and the power, the spirit here again. First Corinthians 14 one pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. Let's stop there from it. That's a command in Scripture that's that's the word of God. Where does Paul resend that wistful take that back when is pulsing that's only for a season where the other people claim that when he wrote first Corinthians 13 that he was conscious that he was writing Scripture 1st Corinthians.

He was conscious that he was writing Scripture and that he allegedly spoke of the closing of the common Scripture. When the cam is complete and the gifts will see so it's it's a bogus interpretation and it hardly has any ongoing academic support.

It's obscure through church history, and it's it's it's a bogus interpretation. I'm sorry that you may have held to that feel insulted by this is weak. It's unscriptural you'd never dream it up just reading the Bible by yourself okay and seriously doubt that.

And let's just go with the argument that Paul was consciously writing Scripture right.

He was just writing a letter to the Corinthians in his mind he knew I'm on writing Scripture to be part of what we call the Bible or attitude we call the you know the old now referred to as the Old Testament right is conscious of and is now said that the gifts of will continue prophecy, tongues, etc. will continue until the account is closed. It's it's completely self-defeating for him now in the very next chapter. So the words that focus recently though chapter divisions to now begin to say pursue love earnestly desire the spirit of suspect that you were prophesy and into ever teach teach TT think that's enough cars.

This just for you guys because soon enough. The canons can be completely gifts will cease. You think he would say that, especially when the alleged reference of the closing, the catalyst of that they would have no conception of they don't know what they're more Scripture being written is a common Scripture is being added to what they have no conception of it. They have no clue start about that first 2013. Not only is it bogus to think he was saying that writing is more bogus to think they would understand that they get the letter to get a letter from Paul there.

I think you notice letter from Paul to me part of an ongoing common Scripture that we will refer to as New Testament, the Bible and one that is completed then the gifts will cease. Then I would've thought that the trillion years, nor should they have thought that I'm just being honest friends. This being honest and do my best to be exegetic. The sound so now, so he goes on about the purpose of prophecy is on about the purpose of tongues is on at the times he says I think I speak in tongues. When all of you and Paul spoke in tongues a lot more than all the Corinthians that they were telling doctors and he said you speak mysteries in your spirit you identify yourself for the public eye rather speak five words in the language than 5000 words in an unknown tongue because in public. If I'm up here speaking right just like on radio that I can speak in tongues you begin to speak in tongues that I could speak in tongues for an hour or two or five or 10 straight and I be super ratified and and my heart would be connected to God or the governor begin to reveal things to my mind is a private nobody else would be a fun right. That's why St. love, but love first edify others.

Okay, so he goes on with it, with the purpose of tongues. Purpose of prophecy right and and bases.

You don't don't be children in your thinking and then he says this with sweet let's go down to verse 26 first within 1426, you know what an ideal meeting looks like.

According to Paul sources. First Corinthians 1426. All we word people are little Bible church.

Are we word people within brothers when you come together each one has a hymn, a lesson Revelation a time when interpretation let all things be done for building up if I speak in the tongue with there be only two are the most recent term with some interpret this nontransferable. Each one keeps on church and speak to himself and to God the two or three prophets speaking with you this way what is said of Revelation is made to another pseudonym at the first, be silent for all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn, and all may be encouraged the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets regards the God of confusion, but of peace right and then how does how does the end the chapter verse 39 so my brothers earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking tongues but all things should be done decently and in order Google phones after the break right so you're welcome to join in different with me agree with me. That's fine, or raise any of the Bible related question is perfectly fine for months or wide-open, 866-34-TRUTH but I'm bored person forgot this is Paul giving us a directive so my brothers and sisters that's included in the Greek proposed earnestly desire to prophesy. This is separate from preaching and teaching. Paul uses distinct words for these New Testament uses distinct words for these earnestly desired to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. If you forbid speaking in tongues you going in Scripture that has me Scripture.

If you're not earnestly designed to prophesy you're not following Scripture show me where this is taken back. We were not Mormons with additional book that gives us more information without leave church tradition can overrule Scripture. We don't believe some revelation that someone gets today can overrule Scripture so that there is toasted same. First Thessalonians the fifth chapter where Paul says, don't despise prophecy, you might be tempted to the might be some erroneous things are summer things don't despise prophecy. Test everything. Hold fast that which is good don't put out the spirits fire so be careful.

Don't put out the spirits fire don't quench the spirit and don't despise prophecy, but test everything and then hold fast that which is good. It's God grab hold of it, pursue it, but will see more of this. It is so much Arthur was so much false doctrine out there that their cults that use the Bible right there cults that use the Bible for all kinds of abusive, destructive thing Satan quotes Scripture, but am I cautious about the word because it's the perfect word this people do weird things in the name of spirit, cautious about the spirit because the spirits perfect. What I embrace the spirit wholeheartedly and pursue everything that God has for me by his spirit to serve you and to reach the lost and to glorify the name of Jesus the spirit always comes to glorify Jesus.

Let's be discerning. Let's be wise. Let's test everything that's exposed to counterfeit absolutely and with wholeheartedly embrace the things in the spirit because it was worth worth. I will be right back. I light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown as friends for putting us on the line of fire he check out the website and start to brown the Lord ask a dear brother org and do a search for sensationalism or cessation or charismatic gifts or Holy Spirit in you find lots and lots of resources right to phones we go. I will start with Jan in Indiana.

Welcome to the want to fire brand.

Hey, I agree with him anyway, let me point out go to Karen what they were reading go of what I learned from the Lord go what chapter well where dark well. When he got in verse 27 where your body of Christ. Individual member of it and then he goes on to say God is a poignant work for the pot. You know, we grant that you go down here Hubert at parity you all think that feeling to all speak with tongue you all in perfect effective dire earnestly to higher man golf bag and he can't and I will still you feel a more excellent way. When a young prick. I didn't know what Batman and then he goes on to read about Levick patient, kind one `character of God character.

He well I believe we have a lot of death kind of backward down anyway. We need God character in order to move correctly in the spirit will back required act latency take it like.

I like you were saying very carefully never been through before, let me give meaning ample when I would nurse is vague as a young girl, I walked into right after I got born again. I walked into the nursing home every lady get they had brought in.

She couldn't be that she was she would very much bear in her mind because you eat there. I let my eyes connected with explaining when they told me what her story wife that she had had broke when neighbor talk well I connected with it woman I get really fark caring for elderly people so deeply for the first time being a nurse aide that I reached my arm to her shoulder and Win98 electricity to my body like you would not believe it went from the top of my head went through my shoulder, down my arm and get it woman that woman I laid out the link film. Well, she went back to bed I come back to work the next day they tell me to woman talking. I knew that we keep it freaked me out when it happened. My point, what I'm saying is we quickly went concentrate more on trying to develop character and when we infatuation spirit manifestation of the things that people are desiring, it will happen naturally because it was natural for defect, but it feel natural to act because we are yet struggling with the character of Christ with Nanette.

We are next year of people of the world or people of the kingdom.

If that makes sense to you because I know I haven't arrived yet. In my mid Jan what it what would you share this is beautiful and it is what Paul is saying that. In other words, it's not either or, its goals and and everything we do, even even when Paul speaks elsewhere the same Galatians, he talks about Faith working by love. So everything should be about being more like Jesus. The problem is that many people take what you're saying but they forget the other part that if we really become more more like Jesus. Then the Holy Spirit will work through us in the supernatural ways more and more as well. In other words, it's not a matter of well I'm to be either flaky charismatic or a godly non-charismatic know we should be godly people who are full of the spirit in Emmett.

I want be clear and just think.

Thanks for sharing that and thanks for sharing that the testimony of a miracle as well, but I've often said that we we want the gift of healing without a heart of compassion number. How many times Jesus healed when he was moved by compassion or open will get prophetic words without the burden of the Lord we will have a powerful evangelistic ministry with a broken heart for the lost right is so so God wants to share his heart with us this character with us so that we can represent him better be in closer fellowship with him and be used more powerfully by him right so it's not either/or, and look there are godly people full of compassion carrying the character of Jesus, who do not operate in prophecy or healing miracles. I am not saying that you don't have the character of Christ and if you have the character of Christ, the miracles will automatically follow. I'm not saying I am saying that the ideal according to Scripture, is the character of Christ's.

Thus, the fruit of the spirit in our lives. With the power of the spirit back your words and testifying to the resurrection of Jesus. Again, thank you very much for the call and for the way you articulated that so I agree.

Many just want to pursue the things of the spirit right pursue the hand of God rather than the face of God. The character of God.

Deeper relationship with God.

Going to the cross more deeply, but it's both add so here, let's let's read this. It's just so glorious.

Such incredible's passage so clearly not all apostles.

Not all profit. Several teachers normal work miracles that opens the excuse of your novel, speak with tongues them all interpret that these are things from the body but earnestly desire the higher gifts which is emphasized prophecy right and I will show you a still more excellent way than first Corinthians 13. If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I prophetic powers and understand all mysteries and all knowledge that have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing if I give away all I have and if I delivered my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing. Love is patient and kind. Love does not envy or boast, it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It is not irritable or resentful. It does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things police all things, hopes all things, and drizzle things from many many many months is it is a new believer, I every night I would pray over these verses, among others. I would ask God help me to have this love, Chris according to the King James church is as it was with their charity. As a member as the person every day I pray over the sum of the last things I did before going to sleep at night with real focus prayer on my knees I would pray through a number of key verses say Lord help me to walk the sun help me to have this character is be part of my life right this is this love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away. As for tongues, they will cease. As for knowledge, maybe the limited knowledge we have, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. When the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. What is the perfect you'll see in a moment. Most child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child when I became a man I gave up childish ways.

For now we see in a minute dimly, but then face to face. When the camo Scriptures because now when Jesus returns. Now I know in part, then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

So now faith, hope and love abide, these three but the greatest of these is love this verse pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. That's how Paul brings it all together and that's the mandate to us you say will what's more important, being grounded in the word before the spirit. Why do you make it either/or to be if you grounded in the word in the world to be full of the spirit. Why is it the drawer. What's more important to have godly character or to have the power, the spirit working life. Why should it be either/or if I choose one of the other if I if I choose godly character or being anointed by the spirit of course to choose godly character because the anointing without characters can destroy but but character alone is document be witnessed to the gospel that here. There are many nice people who are not saved their religious people who live very devoted lies and put some of us to shame. In terms of their devotion in terms of their integrity in terms of their their conformity to outward standards of holiness and their sincere desire to please God and they're not say their people of other religions. They put many of us to shame. That alone is not testimony to the publisher. I remember talking to Hebrew teacher Israeli woman that was teaching Hebrew class I was taking that I shared my testimony with her disability never done drugs of the redrawn efforts on this of the return that issues an Orthodox Jewish woman should always live very clean life was devoted to God and so on. Just the fact that that I lived a certain way most she never did. The bad things I did all right and and it was policy. First Corinthians chapter 2 why was this important for Paul, but it's not important for us in ministry today and I when I came two brothers did not come proclaiming to the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom, decided to note nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified and I was with you in weakness and fear in much trembling in my speech and my message were not in persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the spirit, and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. Why was that a good method for Paul. Why was that something that he found essential, but we don't think is necessary today. Are we concerned about people putting their faith in our wisdom, our knowledge are great speech as opposed to putting their faith in God because of the demonstration of his power of the word and spirit work side-by-side. Didn't Jesus rebuked religious leader saying you air you are because you don't know the Scriptures of the power of God. Didn't he say that God is looking for those who worship him in spirit and in truth, I back was more of your calls stay right here in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome welcome quantifier great to be with you today. Everyone listening by radio everyone with the by podcast, the room watching on YouTube or Facebook or elsewhere.

So glad to have you on the broadcast today all right. Let me go back to the phones here and will go over to Washington, DC Kevin, welcome to the quantifier.

I got grandma… You think you might question something I rarely bring up.

I know it and I love people and blackmail the Holy Spirit on what do you believe in the black me of the Holy Spirit and when somebody mock making income or said that it demonic or no call to work the devil what do you think that it soon.

It's a question we been asked many many times the folks website as I know what yeah if folks go to website Esther to Brown.Oregon just type in blasphemy of the shoot they should find video teach we've done on it. The only place where Jesus explains it, or where the gospel author explains it is March 3 chapter and there. Jesus doesn't teaching he's been accused of driving out demons by the power of Satan right and Jesus doesn't teaching and since every sin that's been committed will be forgiven except the blessed me of the spirit. It's an eternal sin and then the.

The following verse as he said this because they were saying. He has an unclean spirit. So what what Mark is telling us is for someone to knowingly attribute the works of the Holy Spirit through Jesus to say is blasphemy of the spirit.

Now Paul remember he openly persecutes believers right and he has people put to death, but he says in first Timothy one. That God had mercy on him because he acted in ignorance and unbelief and in acts three as Peter is preaching to Jewish leaders in Jerusalem others.

He said look you you you killed the author of life, but you did it ignorantly didn't realize what you are doing so. There are many people who mock the things of the spirit, but they don't understand what they're doing.

There was there was a move about 15 years ago people would post these videos saying saying the words that they blasphemed the spirit little kids doing it and I were watching it thinking I wonder how many these people you get saved in years ahead and and their testimony will be. I was one of those on the video note was they did. Apparently, right II had a morning door and I waited long after Moorman I'm over my house out there looking and I had them come over and I did it in front of them at that F at the Holy Spirit right because all the things about will be internal and I give it to them, shock, and then the life you know and I didn't think they have black and I was talking to the young woman. Men lovingly, and I have them on what they believe blackmail was and they didn't know it was and they went through their lack of anything at all about and that would not necessarily you know believing in Mormonism is not there on, but they they understood that if you were quite identical with the article. If you put the devil on God's throne air for you.

Neglecting the Holy Spirit Kevin that the thing that the key thing in all of this is to understand someone has to do this with your eyes wide open.

There has to be a knowledge and understanding of what they're doing and this person crosses a line that is so clear that so definitely requires a certain degree of hardness of heart and determine will that there's no way back and that's the key thing to say That I blessing the spirit. If you're worried about it. Obviously not perfect if you didn't know better, obviously not in again and thanks for thanks raising in this context because many people that speak in tongues today that God uses in various gifts. Today, many people did not believe that prior it in the past, and maybe they even mocked and they saw it and look their stupid things that many charismatics have done that are worthy of being mocked those stupid things we've done in the name of the Lord, proclaiming that it was the Holy Spirit and and it's is worthy of being mocked was all done mock the spirit people concerned about so let's let's get more three than this comes up a whole lot effect. Normally, if we get a call that we just refer folks to the website because it comes up so much. It's more relevant to today show, so mark this chapter. This is the only time where there is an explanation given right so Mark chapter 3, a minister in verse 22 and the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying he is possessed by be eligible for by Satan himself and by the prince of demons he casts out demons. They couldn't deny he was doing something they couldn't deny he was generally healing the sick. They couldn't deny he was driving demons out of people and now as a result, they could hear.

They could see they could speak. They were set free from torment.

They can deny that. So they had to say was good by another power and he called them to him and said to them in parables. How can Satan cast out Satan.

If the kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand in the house is divided self against itself, that house will not be able to stand. If Satan has risen up against himself and his divided, he cannot stand but is coming to an end, but no one can enter Stroman's house and plunder skinless goods unless he first binds the strongman then indeed any plunder his house to come back to the rest of the passage in the moment.

But let me say this during the browser revival. Many critics would say was not real, is not real, they would say well it's it's demonic. It's the flesh, and I was okay if someone is genuinely turning from sin to God. If they are going from unbelief to putting their faith in Jesus the Jesus of the Bible and I go through what that meant.

If they are now coming under the authority of Scripture living the word of God. And then I have a burden to reach the lost and this continues for months now. I can say for over 20 years.

In some cases for over 25 years then has to be God behind it. If this is the overwhelming front were saying that has begot heroes you have bad fruit here and there you have flakes and pico find his church in America, you have people with weird beliefs you have people that leave the church and bring a bad report. What's the overwhelming testimony to fruit what you see. So you see there has to be God always. Satan's divided against himself is producing true converts in order to deceive people into what he didn't do that Satan cannot produce true converts the flesh cannot produce true converts. So now Jesus says into the passage. Truly I say to you all sins will be forgiven. The children of men, and whatever blasphemies they other.

But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness but is guilty of an eternal sin, for they were saying.

He has an unclean spirit. So the works of the Holy Spirit done through Jesus from your eyes demonstrably clearly God, to the glory of God and in conformity with the word someone sees that in their heart is that heart they are so bent on rejecting Jesus.

They are so committed to rejecting the purposes of God. For whatever reason. Pride. Be at authority be a power the unwillingness to let go. Certain said they are that committed to attribute that Satan to say that Jesus through the works of the spirit has a demon is doing by doing power to do it knowingly with your eyes wide open as Jesus is Ellsworth of the Pharisees that that rejected him and John nine you say you see, so your sin remains that is blasphemy of the spirit that other, there are plenty of people I've met that don't know the Lord in all of no clue who Jesus really is, that speak evil of him and and God willing, when they get safe. The regret with a set but than those that bless me the spirit, the Pentagon markers they could say every day around the world, plenty people, who spoke against Jesus, I could save all the time around the world, but this is crossing a certain line requires certain level of hardness of heart, if you wanted that I blessing this, but if you're wondering about even do if you feel terrible about it obviously didn't do it I friends study the word study the Scriptures getting your knees alone with God and and and whatever posture you getting to just focus on him this with the Bible, God, I just want to follow you and your word.

Whatever the cost.

Whatever the consequences set up in popular dissent about doing what a lot of people do or don't do.

It's about honoring the Lord with humility. Some saved out, 51 years, I realize how little I know and how absolutely dependent on God. I am I'm figured out any better than what the word says so I will go with the word asbestos account for you to do the same. Another program powered by the Truth Network