Were the Gospels Written in Hebrew?

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Can't wait to see you gobbling in the land next year. Okay before I go to your calls. I want to first revisit the subject of a Hebrew gospel you may see modern translations and they will say this is based on the original Hebrew gospel or the original Aramaic gospel will there is no such thing. We do not have an original Hebrew gospel in our possession. We do not have an original Aramaic gospel. However, there is very strong evidence that there were there were early gospel writings that were in Hebrew. Some would argue Aramaic as well or Aramaic instead.

But Hebrew would be the most widely accepted in terms of more recent scholarship. So we we do have early church leaders of three Jerome fourth century and they're talking about the Jewish believers would call a messianic use today and there Hebrew gospel. In some cases that's associated with Matthew is nearly tradition that was was passed by pappy us and then you say BS that talks about the sayings of Jesus that Matthew organized in Hebron or some argue that that actually meant Aramaic with his original teachings were organized together and and then they were interpreted and understood so the argument would be this not that Matthew that we have today. The Greek Matthew was originally written Hebrew and translated into Greek. Some argue that the truly minority view, it is more that either.

Matthew collected the original teachings of Jesus in Hebrew or Aramaic, and then incorporated those in his Greek gospel, or that he wrote something all in Hebrew. Originally, and then that was preserved in the early church. There may been some other writings that were written Hebrew that were preserved, but we do not have them. We have references to them. We can reconstruct the lines you are there, but we do not have the original Hebrew. Now you could argue about how Jesus taught. Did you she would teach in Aramaic or Hebrew.

My understanding is both, but Aramaic would've been the primary teaching the common language of the bulk of the people that were there.

Perhaps in religious debate with religious leaders in Jerusalem.

It was in Hebrew scholars debate this passionately to this moment. The majority view is that that Aramaic was spoken language that his teachings were many Aramaic but there could've been something Hebrew.

Some argue it was all Hebrew. Some argue it was all Aramaic and again it's at this point nothing we can prove demonstrably and categorically and absolutely. Either way, so when we get this notion, then of the original Hebrew gospel that people are using Mozilla just wrongly put the word original. There they're taking later translations from the Greek into Hebrew and using those and say well maybe they preserved in original Hebrew. There may be they're not all translations Greek may be part of this is an original Hebrew but important fact we don't have any interventions on some of the only manuscripts that we have of the gospel in Hebrew or are medieval. I see you talking a massive time spent and we understand the arches those arguing that we have a lot of these Gospels in Hebrew, but the view has been through the centuries. The ones that we have the is medieval manuscripts there translations from the Greek into Hebrew right some of argue more recently that no actually, that they preserved some original Hebrew in them that's what you have word plays.

That's why things like that because the theory was that the rabbis in order to deal with missionaries and things like that wanted to understand the New Testament in their best language which was Hebrew. Therefore, it would translated from Greek into Hebrew and okay now we can read it and understand it better. But some say no, no, it has evidence that there's actually original Hebrew there so that is an ongoing debate specially with him you, Gordon popularized a lot of that he's a solid scholar when we differ on numerous points, but he's a solid scholar in terms of his approach to the literature. All right, what about an original Aramaic. Again, we don't have any ancient documents that we have the Greek New Testament thousands of early manuscripts so more than a century of of the death and resurrection of Jesus. We have those parts of the books of the New Testament and then whole books and then whole portions of the New Testament we have an Greek.

We don't have an Aramaic we do have is the perceived which is a translation from the Greek into Aramaic. Though some claim normally has regional teaching settings.

The overwhelming scholarly consensus is that the appreciate the is a translation from the Greek into Aramaic. The New Testament of the Old Testament from the Hebrew and Aramaic so if you now say what I want reconstruct the original Aramaic teaching of Jesus only use the proceeds which are doing is this the teachers and Aramaic. The gospel authors translated into Greek later translated translated from Greek and Aramaic.

That doesn't mean you have the original trust me do this with a foreign language speaker give them a passage or that's an inscription is known as a paragraph from a news article right asked them okay it's it's in English. Consider German speakers translated from English into German right bingo. Another German speaker as a transit. This will German into English, it will not be the same word for word is an original English is just like it happened so it's the same thing here so the appreciate that is useful as a textual witness just shows an ancient witness but is not the way to reconstruct the original Hebrew and Aramaic words of Jesus. So once again, there is no such thing in our possession as the original Hebrew gospel or the original Hebrew method with the original teachings of Jesus in Hebrew the original teachings of Jesus and Aramaic when original Aramaic us, but we do not have that in our possession.

Yet there are enough references to original Hebrew gospel or to Matthews writings in Hebrew there enough references in the early church to say there was something that circulate maybe you did discover one that would be awesome to be extraordinary.

It was actually discovered this he said what I like to state it is more a book I found very helpful and strongly argued, is by James R. Edwards, the Hebrew gospel in the development of the synoptic tradition began.

Here's the title of the book that I find helpful.

The Hebrew gospel in the development of the synoptic tradition at the very least, it will indicate to you just how pervasive these concepts were in the ancient world. How much the early church leaders attested to this reference. Some even say that they had seen the book or books themselves of firsthand when when in a library that you with his Jewish Christians or in their in their possession. They had these things and even have a reading here and there was a Jerome will say okay well in the Hebrew version that doesn't have these words here. It has these words it's it's all very very interested and then arguments to be made based on some of the medieval manuscripts that they reflect early release it.

It's all interested. It's worth pursuing and studying wondering about, but until we actually have something ancient right we we know the church father is on all of this can be anything else uncovered it off. One of them that we knew right. He was uncovered reciting it left and right we don't have that it's unlikely something you will be found in that regard. However, just like the Dead Sea Scrolls shock the world, just like other discoveries of last century discoveries of the Ugaritic language in an blight language at different times of the 20th century. Shock the world something could happen, something could be found that if that was the case it would be absolutely fascinating. Okay now when we do this. This is this is not something that was preserved in the canon of Scripture. Meaning that, in the providence of God.

This was not preserved in the ancient world and more importantly, it was not circulated for the whole body knows it only would have been one little part of the body could use these important part of the argument for canonicity is not just that it had an apostolic connection was recognized for its Orthodox teaching but that was something that was widely accepted as such as Scripture or as inspired, arise apostolic by the early believers. The fact that something was just circulated one group only would indicate that God did not cause that to be preserved for the whole body, but it would be the most important ancient textual witness discovered regarding the subject and in history so it could happen, but until then when you hear some of it will go back to the original Hebrew. The New Testament of the original Aramaic to stop that we don't have that we don't have the original Hebrew or the original Aramaic. It's all a matter of reconstruction. So Metatron or figure out what are the reasons that we do not have that.

So please don't tell me your translation is based on the original Hebrew of the New Testament of the original Aramaic New Testament. We don't have that but it's a fascinating study to pursue and there were ancient writings in Hebrew, possibly Aramaic as well that were preserved by some of the early believers.

The Jewish believers could've given verbatim how Jesus said is in the realm of life to come back. History the phones with your request is the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown free the Lord all nation. Yes, welcome to thoroughly Jewish Thursday, 866-34-TRUTH walk into the office today and there was a box waiting for me of my latest shipment of these things are health supplements key things that I take to supplement the super healthy lifestyle that I live by the grace of God.

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Of course, one of them from Isaiah 14 verse number 12 worked because of the fall of Lucifer and how are you fallen from heaven, a Lucifer thought of the morning in Hebrew. When I looked up at Doug Hillel bent the car and let Hillel since Hillel and Shahar you are got joking when I looked at one of the commentary it mentioned that I'm not. I don't know how they came to this conclusion but I would. They mention it is also something about a crescent moon that it can translate the crescent moon somehow electrical know it's it's shining on some of the Dawn is is what it says in Hebrew.

Hillel was shining one and Shahar is some of the Dawn and Lucas fair in in Latin simply means light bearer. This was not originally read as referring to Satan, Lucifer, was that originally title statement became a title Satan based on recognition that this passage spoke of him so the Jewish interpretation would basically be that the king of Babylon/Assyria will be cut down by God was so highly exalted that that he fashions himself to be like the MorningStar intravenous planet Venus looks like a shining star something like that that would be the most prominent Jewish interpretation of Christian interpretation releasees that behind this Oracle about the fall of the king of Babylon is actually the fall of Satan himself and that's how I read it and understand that his fall is now being likened to the fall of another proud being that thought that he could exalt himself above God, and was therefore cut down that unit you happen to remember which Jewish commentator made the that there are some references this is I'm just looking now. Yeah, I don't remember exactly who it was but I did come across the if you type in like Isaiah 1412 crescent moon. It might be other altered from Aramaic. Maybe you guys are also you did the other place.

Okay that that's not it is not the most prominent translation there. Yeah, the Aramaic, the Targum presenting this year you were shining when the sons of men is the story Venus among the stars but us since we did this_Abravanel's, lengthy commentary their references is below. I was just glancing at a few others and will just take one second because we can and crescent moon and the other the ones that I'm sick. I'm not seeing it in the major Jewish commentaries and so the not the.

The most common comment. The NET notes mention of Venus or the crescent moon and there's only one that I saw so far in the Jewish commenters. I was looking at that makes a comparison in terms of when I seen it can have a certain appearance, but it's the main one would be that it would be like Venus in the morning that you know the so-called MorningStar and that's what it's being likened to an end and the pride is just the pride of the king, but spiritually behind the scenes.

I do believe it is speaking about the fall of Satan. Hence Lucifer becomes a name for Satan. Dr. Dr. perfectly clear the lot. I wanted to mention I know that you're obviously Jew from New York is there. I know right now. And like I heard you talk about anti-Semitism in America is there anti-Semitism going on in the United States right now, particularly in New York where most of the Jews. Are they experiencing any form of all you Adam, if you just search online for a rising anti-Semitism United States had there been rise rising number of hate crimes targeting Jews is been for some years now their course you had that the terrible synagogue shootings. This is all within recent years Pittsburgh power away. Yeah so so this is been something that has been rising, and especially in New York you have more instances of of religious Jews on the street just getting attacked or harassed.

So just compounding the matter crowd attacking so yeah it it is a concern of rising tensions in America rising anger in America, there you have a large number, especially religious Jews Shootings Have Taken Pl. in New Jersey as well.

So if you just look of violent crimes against Jews or rising anti-Semitism in America/New York you you get quite a few examples. Sadly, it is on the rise and worldwide for many years now is the anti-Semitism worldwide has has rivaled were anti-Semitism was before the Holocaust, 866-34-TRUTH out. Let's go to Melissa in Indiana. Welcome to the line of fire. I think you have a question about Matthew 1839 that the parable of targeting. Yeah, I've heard all the talent directed toward I'm not actually for after the rock. What are your thoughts about an evident today final document from the father right it's absolutely for us today. The only ones that would dare try to take these words away are the ones that try to take of the words of Jesus way. One of the great errors of of modern hyper grace teachers is that they see the words of Jesus before the cross don't apply to us today, but it is a really dangerous, ugly, un-biblical even heretical teaching the words of Jesus in the Gospels are employed with a list of spoken after the cross. This would be another example is the argument would be well then it's worth somehow say borrower works or something like that. But know this is this a parable to illustrate a point. Jesus tells us elsewhere in this repeated teaching that if we don't forgive the father will forgive us, it doesn't mean in terms of our estate of forgiveness. As far as coming to the one being saved. It means that our ongoing relationship with them or fellowship with him so when Jesus says if you don't forgive from the heart that you will be thrown it in that analogy there in the debtors prison and you'll just be tormented. There, if you get to the point of hardness of heart by unforgiveness that you ultimately reject God right that you refuse and you refuse the Lordship of Jesus, you choose bitterness and hatred and anger. While it you are not safe and you are not a child of God. If you cast off the Lordship of Jesus, you will cast off your salvation but I believe what he's talking about is illustrating the point of God putting you under severe conviction, giving over to the tormentors there to pay every last bit is saying that you will not enjoy fellowship with God. If you if you refuse to forgive so much about the ultimate denial of Jesus is Lord good.

Get out of my life.

I don't want you but as a believer. If God zooms the need to forgive Nietzsche forgive. You need to release the person you keep refusing your fellowship with God will be broken your intimacy with God will be impacted and you will suffer deep conviction gobble not let you sit next on if you've ever come under deep conviction as a believer when when your attitude was wrong. But God knows how to turn the screws on us internally and bring us to a place of misery say okay I give up. I repent and that's what I believe he speaking of their Matthew 18 but absolutely, categorically applies to us today very powerfully the most important words. Jesus ever spoke on the subject of forgiveness that would not be a final… The father that absolutely not. It's the intensity of conviction.

Again, a parable is minted to convey a point a parable is meant to get a message across. Not to see that each thing means. This means that not limited to Sagan the Melissa if someone got to a point under deep conviction of God where year after year they said get out of my life. I don't want you my life. He doesn't force us to stay and in if that was the case then we be given over to final judgment because of it, but the sin would be rejecting of of the Lord. The sin would be refusal to bow the knee to Jesus, but the Matthew 18 in the parable of the of the unforgiving servant who's been forgiven so much.

Why is that important for us. It's important to grasp it went. When people sometime said on a savory gracious towards others will. God is very gracious towards me. I want to extend to others the mercy and grace never lower his standard never compromises ethic but I want to extend to others the same mercy and grace that God is extended to me and I'm sure only do a fraction of that at my best. I thank you for calling.

Let's keep that clear the parable in Matthew 18 absolutely. Plus, this is believe is let us take it to heart like that. Thanks for the call to the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome the third Thursday you know it's one of the highlights for me being his role go on open 866-34-TRUTH 866-3487 84 go back to the phones momentarily, but one of the highlights for me in our Israel tour out one of done these over the years. For many years. I refused to do the most if I go to Israel system minister than a friend convinced me and and they just been such a wonderful experience for everyone together that that we've done a number of the years but sometimes just with schedule. The neutral store and that all on beat up a little bit later with the get started and then finishing a project and that I meet up and then will will be teaching at a certain place in them have her meals together, etc. and it worked out last time that I got to to Jerusalem. Earlier were went through so much eye I got to the to the wall ahead of the group to meet up what's called the Wailing Wall of the old Western Wall, but within Israel, the cartel of wall and every time. Many times a been there by myself just praying with others just walking up there is this overwhelming feeling every single time and being there is less time waiting for the group to come in and then seeing their reaction and then going with the brothers whose mental once agreement on another to pray this just some the deeply touches my heart and and I love to pray side-by-side with religious Jew, there were there in the room will praying but it reminds me again of the great sincerity of the passion it's in the heart of some of the traditional Jews of their earnest crying out to God it and and I just joined God open our eyes to see your truth person on my left. The person on my right open our eyes to see the truth reveal Messiah so hopefully you get to join us when we do that a caller said the did not see the baptism of John, the Jewish culture were unable stay on the line but just to respond quickly if you look at Jewish culture of the day. Immersion was commonly practiced was practiced by different Jewish groups there if you come with Israel that Israel wasn't just there on your own.

Your tour guide will show you your outside of what would be the ancient temple complex is okay, here's another baptismal pool or immersion pool and you want us to have someone inside the pool of the walkout steps of the other. It was commonly practiced. There are some groups that ritually immersed every day of some specially before going into the temple that would be the main tunnel would happen. Psalm is a special act of repentance and that's what John tied in with get immersed repent of sins, get a Mercer was is very much part of the culture of the day in the Jewish world right we go to Justin in Newark, New Jersey. Welcome to the line of fire. I hear this I can click bank to question what I want back in the I question if you believe in Mosaic authorship or yes I do. There are supplements that were equally inspired. There are passages like Genesis 12 the Canaanite was in the land of numbers 12, Moses was the meekest man on the earth through the death of Moses. There may be certain editions that were that were put in over over period of time is lost development essential Mosaic authorship yes I believe in that. Okay I mean III want to believe Bartlett mode or a lock versus written by Joshua, but my question you when you're the of Mosaic authorship iPod 1331 block records collected from our university and they call me the other JE EP documentary about but I authorship I want to write so this is something that was a big big issue to me early on as a believer because everyone I studied with was was, not a believer, and many were quite skeptical and critical and by the time I met any religious Jews that held to Mosaic authorship and were also involved in academia and that was that was a lot a lot a lot longer so my reasons are number one GDP is just theory remains just theory. There are probably less scholars who hold to it today than when I started my studies. 50 years ago. In fact it's something I haven't even followed for the longest time, I felt no need to assume that that's number one.

There, there remains no literary evidence for the it's all reconstructed.

Number two is Kenneth kitchen. The famous Egyptologist demonstrated a decades ago. We have nothing else in the ancient near East. Of all the major literature that has been preserved that has a weaving together of disparate documents like this over period of centuries into one. So this itself would would would be anomalous. This would be contrary to the evidence of the ancient world number three. What we don't have attestation about who wrote Genesis. We have constant references to Moses writing things down in Exodus, Moses wrote Moses wrote in Leviticus over and over. Moses is writing you have at the end of Deuteronomy that that is a tester Moses writing then the beginning of Joshua references the book of the law and throughout the entire Old Testament. There's a constant reference back to the, the safer Cheraw Pacific throughout Moshe that the book of the law of the book of the law of Moses with the book of teaching for the teaching of Moses and then constant references to Moses to the rest of the Hebrew Bible, so everybody's presupposing it. Everybody's referencing it, but you have to argue is it's all basically being rewritten that that that each new generation has to now discover this book that nobody knew about before. Also, it doesn't it doesn't cover every single verse again it doesn't cover Genesis explicitly, except we have no other throughout the entire ancient Jewish tradition ancient Israelite tradition. We never have any other part of the Pentateuch attributed to anyone other than Moses ever and and then is in development of the cabin. There is never a debate about this going back to Moses, so the internal evidence says Moses and the subject there's no debate that the internal evidence says nothing nothing other than that the literary critiques things like that the alleged contradictions. A lot of that is this standard dupe duplicate accounts that you that you use to explain the same thing different ways at different times plays on words as first different styles, most of those can be fairly easily explained as different literature. For example, if you read my book, Israel's divine healer read my article on rough on the theological vision of the Old Testament and then pick up my book, how saved are we just think these are two different human beings who wrote this to do vocabulary analysis, grammatical analysis was just one I'm writing academically in the other.

I'm writing a popular level so there are top conservative scholars brilliant learned conservative scholars absolutely fluent in the ancient near Eastern sources completely reject GDP. Honestly surprised it still around. Just because there's been nothing to support his just become a from something locked-in so if if you read any of the standard work.

Bye-bye top of conservative Old Testament scholars or surveys that they've done still get good strong arguments for the essential Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch and again I don't think Deuteronomy 34 was written by by Joshua because it it seems to be dating later that even up until this time, though, unlike Moses has arisen in Israel of and we don't have to know who wrote the other supplements but I believe a good argument can be made not just internally within the Torah, but based on how the rest of the Hebrew Bible and all this different time periods is all referencing back to the laws of Moses or or the book of the terrace of their something that was there could've expanded more than we know.

But there was something foundational. It was there presuppose the entire Hebrew Bible, so those not be by my strongest arguments okay at Walmart thing. How would you define by the level of language is viewed between Dave thought it would be enacted. The team, and like the rep just said it.

You just explained this is poetry and song courses different if if when I read up all have written poems or fun poems for birthday that my writing poems is a million times different than my writing. Israel's divine healer or or writing judges. Both North America song and it doesn't means so they they sang it together is the spontaneous honor mower. Moses pans in the right is of course it's can be different.

It's it's it's can have different style and fears of the thing. There's no question that over the centuries as the Hebrew Bible was being written out copy that spelling conventions changed. For example, if you look at the spelling of the word color in an America so you go back far enough. It was COLOUR or labor with oh you are like we have in anyone today right but we spell it without the you so the same thing you look back the original changing spelling in the music was spelled with with with CK at the end not just see so spelling so we changed conventions changed so you will have dislike of judges five preserves an ancient song and and some of the spelling, grammar different, so that's to be expected because the nature of the literary genre, that's one thing. And because probably that that being a piece that was passed on a certain way that spelling changes didn't happen so much that of the grammatical conventions didn't change. So for sure. The Hebrew language changes over the centuries for sure.

Some of the spelling conventions change, but do we have the same words that were being passed out yet.

No reason to argue against it to check out if you want to dig strong with this book by Kenneth kitchen on the reliability of the Old Testament on the reliability of the Old Testament, a kitchen's most famous work, the third intermediate.

Is the work on the subject am not an Egyptologist at all started to take hieroglyphics and in grad school is through my doctoral thesis. I thought what a time to learn this now so that's the start of the class. That was it.

So that's how far I am from. Egyptologist, but kitchen is is a terrific interest in scholar and it's it's a couple decades old with a good place to start on the reliability of the Old Testament. My faith would not be shaken in the least if he could be demonstrated that Moses wrote much of the Pentateuch, but not all that I have no reason to question essential Mosaic authorship remains that the best explanation to me are you hey thank you very much for the call and for asking these questions 866-34-TRUTH are we come back Neil Harvey, Michael, you are next right here in thoroughly Jewish Thursday on the line of fire is the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown Biden is in Israel, Middle East for strip is made of this kind of prison. Op Ed in the Jerusalem Post despite his love for Israel by the still has different priorities lovefest aside, look at the statements made should the distance between the sides priorities and views on the visit so great public comments look for Israel America standing with you my love for Israel presence is deep rooted as long as were the United States, you will never ever be alone for Mr. P current prime minister called by one of the best friends is Ruth ever had. Among the restatements of gratitude for the close ties between the US and Israel. Yet of the aggressive differences in terms of priorities and action points you get my emails you wear when we put out the latest video say root root rebutting Rabbi Toby Singer. Another economist or Rabbi know yet.

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We go back to the phones this time to kneel in Wisconsin walking to the line of fire. Dr. Brown good afternoon brother on. I like you to follow Jesus want to preface it by I been… Totally engrossing conversation and you have a gifted teacher and apologetic time trying to tickle your air, but as a young Jewish boy starting Torah for bar mitzvah. Moses, if we look at Moses and the physical first 40 years of his life he was raised Egyptian royal keep the finest food. I'm sure he was engaged in Egyptian scholarship. So together fully and become a shepherd's 40th. This was not this was a man who was educated and leader earmarked for future Egyptian royal so the fact that you could with gods help accomplish what he did is that leads to my question. I wanted to ask you about since you unveiled something today. I didn't know I didn't know that the new testament. There is no Aramaic to original Hebrew word aromatic, I've been pondering in my soul about the I am the first one is you know is in Exodus, the burning bush tell who shall I tell these people sent me. I am what I am what the Hebrew and that Dr. is so it's it's glorious and it's mysterious and it's clear but it's beyond clear so the first thing is the Hebrew, and he yeah means I am more I will be right here survey yet and he had not a distant and eight and he broke from the root which is to be so and he is either I am or not to be understood as I will be right so in the context there were gotchas I will be with you. I will be with you right I will so in the context he saying I will be ADF. I will be telling you he yeah sent you.

But then he explains he yeah a share in here, which is either I am who I am. I am that I am or I will be who I will be or I will be what I will be we could potentially be translated. I am who I will be but that that would be the least likely is from this.

It's from this route how Ya with the name Yahweh we could name Yahweh and and that's ultimately because the. The Y was originally of the sound, but that's that's a whole whole other matter so if if you look in.

In Exodus the third chapter. All right, where were this is comes up initially what he's saying is I am going to be with you. I am the one who will be with you right for you. McKee a yet in a mock basilica oath, so he says and I will be so elusive little Hebrew volume, where, and he said key for a here I will be a mock with you and and this will be the sign for you so say to them that he yeah sent you. So the one who will be with you is the one who sent you.

But then when you just take that in terms of the self-expression of God. This is not just future is present so I am who I am and I am the one who will be with you and I will be and I am are the same in Hebrew. That's why it's it's clear but it's beautiful and mysterious and you go. Forgiving not to go ahead. Please don't go right over to I am so that they might note that I am the Lord and in our English Bible. The Lord is capitalized and then I go right over to John's gospel or Gen. John and what cues does that drives the rabbis crazy is for Moses, for Abraham was, I am right.

Suicide is the deceit you suggested. Understand verdict to be in the present tense can be understood in Hebrew so in in Hebrew.

I am the Lord is simply on the other. Neither is know how Ya there is no verb how Ya is simply a in Hebrew.

Slowly I the Lord, meaning I am the Lord, you have other passages where like here in Exodus 3 were God reveals himself as I am/I will be a you have it, especially in in Isaiah. In the Septuagint go Amy I am.

I myself am so God speak of himself that he's the only God I myself am so he brought a knee who I I am he then is is emphasized in Greek. I myself am that one so in John 858 where Jesus uses the same words a go. Amy would seem he's echoing the language of Isaiah.

I myself am.I am and and yes that did draw them because even if he was disclaiming some type of preexistent Seleucid before Abraham was, I was right. I existed before I was here before ever I was. This is no before Abraham was, I am definitely drawing and making a connection he thank you sir for the question and the kind words.

Let us go to Harvey in Hanford California. Time is short so please dive right in yet a couple questions after watching the documentary marching by on Jan couple questions are wanted is the artwork John Haig. He talks about a rebuilt temple.

I don't see anywhere in Scripture work. Talk about a rebuilt temple. You will actually okay so first thing it's it's a really bad documentary. It's even to give the rabbis into participating and then to get extreme examples of Leica humanist rabbis-circumcision it it's unethical we did was wrong, Stephen Anderson. It's it's for scholarship in my book Christian anti-Semitism actually take some time to expose the craftiness of the documentary some of book Christian anti-Semitism deals with that, but you can make a strong argument for rebuilt temple based on Ezekiel 40 through 48 prophecies that never took place, or were were never fulfilled or Zechariah 14 the nations of the world coming to worship at the temple in Jerusalem of true would happen to our sounds here for still connected only to keep talking as if we are connected but I've just lost all hearing of or feed here so I'll keep speaking case. We are still on the air so so Harvey. So what are you will. Those are millennial passes that Temple will be rebuilt in the millennial kingdom, but you could make an argument that you could make an argument that Matthew 24. When Jesus speaks about his second coming.

That is referring to. Secondly, with the temple standing so that there will be rebuilt temple or second Thessalonians 2 that the antichrist will set himself up as God in the temple of God, but you can't guarantee it. In the words that is an area of discussion will there be a real a rebuilt temple before Jesus returns with a be a temple of physical temple in the millennial kingdom right Harvey with my apologies.

I cannot hear the feed coming in so even though were still on the air. I can hear you come back if you can follow up sir will take your call tomorrow. Even the wheel. Three consecutive days.

Normally will try to get you tomorrow if you can call in, otherwise try to give us a call in another day so we can continue the discussion are because there's there's more that you have to ask and say and I'm sure you will reply to what I said but we just had an error in our feed here and not sure what happened but everyone else let us just happen at the end of the show so I can get you close, my apologies Harvey, but please call so we can follow up and continued our discussion, I do want to hear questions that you had after watching that documentary about her.

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